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OnLive: Inside and Out

OnLive unveils their new console and aims to overthrow the existing gaming status quo.

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Imagine playing a computer game without any hassles. Drivers, troubleshooting, installations, compatibility, performance--all thrown out the window. Upgrading? A thing of the past. All you have to do is click on the game, and seconds later, you're playing. That's what OnLive claims to deliver. Should it work half as well as advertised, expect to see the gaming world thrown into upheaval by a box no bigger than a deck of playing cards. The story gets even more unbelievable when you factor in price. According to company reps, OnLive intends to significantly undercut every existing console on the market.

At its core, OnLive is a subscription service similar to cable TV or Netflix. In other respects, OnLive is what you get when you pump something like YouTube full of steroids. Instead of just watching a pile of videos, you're streaming gameplay at HDTV resolutions and controlling your character in real time. You get Crysis on your HDTV at the highest-quality settings--run by a computer that's hundreds of miles from your doorstep. It's really no wonder Rearden Labs spent the better part of a decade perfecting and designing OnLive.

It's tiny Really tiny Front ports Another angle OnLive labeled

Hardware

Whenever a console comes out, we tend to dig in to all the gritty details--pixels pushed, mips mopped, and so forth. Sony has volumes written about its Cell processor, just like Microsoft and its tri-core CPU, not to mention their associated GPUs. By contrast, the humble little OnLive MicroConsole comes with practically nothing--just two USB connectors, a network jack, some AV outs, and some random bits and bobs stuffed in there. To make things even stranger, OnLive will run on just about any PC or Mac through a Web browser plug-in without the MicroConsole. Install the OnLive program and you're done. According to the company, even the lowly netbooks will run the newest games with high-quality details and excellent frame rates.

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Here's how it all works.

All the magic happens elsewhere, and the hardware sitting in those rooms is considerably more powerful than anything the current consoles offer. Gaming PCs in far-off server rooms sit filled to the brim with SLI setups, quad-core CPUs, gobs of RAM, and ridiculous RAID arrays to make load times a thing of the past. In its racks, OnLive has a slew of machines ranging from the mundane for simpler games to SLI rigs to power the most demanding games. Every six months, OnLive will upgrade the computers to take advantage of new CPUs, GPUs, and more to give you access to the most powerful hardware available.

Surprisingly, OnLive already has competition on the horizon. A startup by the name of OTOY aims to provide high speed gaming, HD movie playback and more, by using a web browser plugin. The driving force behind OTOY is AMD’s Fusion Render Cloud, a supercomputer class machine capable of petaflop processing power with over 1,000 GPUs. In a conversation with Jules Urbach, OTOY’s CEO, he mentioned that OTOY will be entering beta in the summer and should be up and running in the year.

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Streaming

Ridiculously good streaming software lies at the heart of OnLive's service. Nothing is stored locally on the MicroConsole or your computer's hard drive. The entire experience depends heavily on what kind of Internet connection you have. The faster your Internet connection, the better the graphics. Slower connections will default to SD resolutions. Faster connections will get a 720p video feed with surround-sound capability. You won't need a fiber optic hookup to get HDTV-level graphics. On the contrary, fairly normal cable Internet connections will suffice. A 1.5Mbps connection will work for SD, and a 5Mbps is required for HD.

Our experiences with Crysis and Burnout were quite favorable. Crysis looked fantastic and ran at a great pace. Burnout's fast-paced driving felt a little off, but it didn't detract from the gameplay too much. We'll likely get a better idea of how the service behaves in a large-scale environment when we get closer to launch. OnLive will have a beta of the system starting in the summer and will officially launch in the winter.

Games

Edge anyone? Crash! Lego Some publishers

As goes the usual refrain, it's all about the games. In the case of OnLive, it's all about third-party support. If the OnLive folks make any games, they certainly aren't aiming to outdo titles like Gears of War or Metal Gear Solid 4. OnLive's game backbone lives off of what's currently available on PCs. Pretty much anything built for the PC can run through OnLive with relatively minor tweaks. Currently, heavy hitters like Electronic Arts, Ubisoft, Take-Two, Warner Bros., THQ, Epic, Eidos, Atari, and Codemasters have all signed on to provide games from their PC stables. Should the experiment succeed, we imagine anything that comes out on the PC will be mirrored onto OnLive in short order.

At the Game Developers Conference 2009, OnLive demonstrated 16 different games, including Crysis and Burnout.

Additionally, developers will be able to easily launch game betas before developing a full game to determine whether there's interest in a particular game or an experimental style of play. The result gives gamers a better end product, while lowering costs for both gamers and developers.

OnLive will let gamers buy, rent, and play trial versions of games. The company has not announced any pricing scheme for rentals or purchases. And as we mentioned before, all gameplay will happen instantly. Once you click "buy" or "rent," you'll be playing in the span of time it takes you to hit the play button.

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Brag Clips Streams

OnLive's streaming technologies allow it to do some crazy stuff. Aside from being able to watch clips of games to see what they're like, you'll be able to spectate any game being played on the system. OnLive also lets you show off your coolest moments via the Brag Clip system. The service automatically records your gameplay at all times, and anytime you do something that looks cool, you can press a few buttons and save the last 15 seconds of footage. At that point you can share your saved clip with other friends who are part of the OnLive service.

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Controllers

The Controller Front Side Head On

Every console brings its own controllers to the game. OnLive does as well, but it's not really required. OnLive's MicroConsole supports up to four wireless OnLive controllers. The controller looks similar to the Xbox 360 controller in terms of buttons and layout. The controller will also double as a remote control for video playback. OnLive representatives also mentioned that the controller was designed to work with much lower latency than third-party wireless controllers.

OnLive's control scheme is probably the most flexible of any console. Pretty much any USB wired controller will work without a hitch--including the wired Xbox 360 controller. Since we are talking about PC games, keyboards and mice will most certainly function. If you have a wireless controller that has a USB receiver made for a PC, it should work as well. The MicroConsole will also accept a USB hub to increase the number of devices you can plug into it.

Pricing

The OnLive MicroConsole will be priced well under all existing home consoles. The company hasn't mentioned any specific price points, but it isn't hard to imagine OnLive gunning well underneath the Wii. The browser plug-in for PCs and Macs will be free.

OnLive Menu Friends Profile

Unlike other consoles, which have one cost attached to them, OnLive has a base cost (or none, if you have a computer) plus a subscription fee. The real number we have to keep an eye on is what it costs to keep the service alive. Representatives have yet to announce how the subscription model will work, but they did reveal that there will be multiple price points.

Also unlike other consoles, OnLive improves over time. Top-of-the-line computers will be rolled into the server farms on a constant basis. Since video cards and CPUs update on a six- to 12-month cycle, users will get better performance for the same price as time goes on.

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Should OnLive succeed, the gaming landscape and more could change considerably. Predicting all the downstream effects is exceedingly difficult. Console upgrades could come to a halt. Outside of gaming, you could watch or buy movies, watch TV shows, listen to music, and much more. Like OTOY, the fact that OnLive can stream live gameplay means that it could act as a full-fledged computer at the flick of a switch, with its servers storing your data. Go from typing papers, to playing Crysis, to watching CSI, all from a tiny box. OnLive has an interesting future if everything works according to plan. We'll keep you updated on developments as we get closer to the beta this summer.

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Looks like it has potential...hmm... It could pretty pricey, since you have to pay for the machine the subcription, and the games! But you can get any game you want, and sneak it from your folks! jk. But since it runs on the internet your connection could be crappy and ruin the system. So Ill have to see about this one.

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I bet only selected countries will have this....

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Edited By tannerislegend

i need more info, wtf do i do about all my saved games that i have right now? I like my game/score/tag/profile that i have on the 360. this could be the coolest thing ever though

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sounds all to good and too easy for now...though it's just my point of view

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Don't know about that web camera. I game naked! LOL

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Edited By martynrbooth

if this goes ahead and everyone stops upgrading the pc's gpu, cpu, ect imagine what damage it will do to the computer market, they wont be able to upgrade there computers if they send the great manufacturers like nvidia radeon pentium and amd bust, after all why produce something if no-one needs it any more.i see problems myself. dont think there servers are going to get much support by these companies either

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Edited By GDI_SOLDIER_94

haha guys youv gtta watch this its called the "hardcore gamer song" it sums up a gamer completely i swear to god lol! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQctcg9_--U

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Man I want this so bad! But I worried about the prices! Please, more information!

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I have one problem my broardband is crap! I probably get 2mbps on a good day!

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The concept is amazing to me, and I believe that it is a great step for gaming. The idea is new and even if your a skeptic. I think this will change some things for computer gaming.(That is of course if it launches with out a hitch and on time)

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I'm like Blue Abyss on that one

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Edited By Blue_Abyss

All i have to say is what are the prices?

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now these last 4 are starting to make sense :)

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Edited By MarcusOfLycea

So wait... when OnLive goes out of business one day (r decides not to do older games anymore) all of my money, time, effort and everything else is gone? I can never go back and play these games I purchased? No thanks.

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Edited By tundra_no_caps

And here we go with some more American-centric only things, which will take ages to roll to other places across the world, if at all. But here's to hoping. Certainly looks interesting. But I'll believe it as soon as we get NetFlix around here ;-)

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i hate the controller

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Edited By Tebbit

the face buttons being L, I, V and E is probably the stupidest thing i've ever seen, otherwise it looks pretty slick.

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i quit trying to convince you guys, but im sticking with my comp and i dont see OnLive in my future. If anyone else wants to join me and stick with good ol' fashioned pc's...please...

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Yes! Finally i can play great pc games like crysis without buying a new laptop. Wouldn't mind paying a subscription. Let's hope it comes to the uk

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hmmm... the only factor that remains to be discussed is price and cost... that will proabably determine the success of OnLive. It probably require some sort of subscription like Xbox live... but personally i feel that it would have to be rediculously cheap to make all us gamers abandon our precious consoles & gaming rigs... but i gotta admitt the prospect of running crysis on ultra high does seem very tempting :P...

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tbh i can see this being a major problem for games like On Live is going to make thing much easier for pirate games. Like they can say all they want that people wont make copy games but people still find away to do it even with the current consoles. Also i dont see how this could overthrow the current generation of console seeing as onlive doesn't really have anything on the Wii DS or PSP, and the online community with Xbox Live is far to strong for fans to leave . . . .the PS3 seems the only console that may need to worry but they do still have BlueRay but we will have to see :) x

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It would be a lot more appealing to me if you didn't have to buy the games. It would be cool just to pay monthly and be able to play any game they have one there, because what happens when you unsubscribe?

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well now the trick is to hope for gamers on this thing............ but admit it looks awesome for normal gamers and Hardcore gamers (I being the later)

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paying every month to access?, and then buying the game we want or rent? not to mention the internet service! and that you pay a well price (not cheap) for the ''micro console''. think, with the ''access'', you can play demos. but not full games, so or you rent or you buy the game online... and if we decide not to pay for the access anymore - BUT i freaking buy a video game on the onlive thing, how can i have my video game back? .well just want to know .

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It sounds great; however, i don't think is going to be THAT cheap. For a "high end On-Live" 5 mbs are needed (the first bill you will have to pay MONTHLY); buying/renting the games (doesn't change anything because you already buy them) and paying a subscription (god knows how much it would be, MONTHLY). Anyway, It has a long way to go if i want to play it because i live in South America. Lets wait and see!

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Why would I want to pay another monthly fee, and on top of that, have to pay extra for a game. I love new technology for gamming, but I need a hard copy, no matter how advanced the world gets. Plus my 360 is a source of heat in the winter.

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Edited By tidyspidey

Very cool - as long as the games are decent, I like the concept. I just hope we still get to have the option of buying a dedicated console too - variety is always nice

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I really don't think that this Onlive thing will make serious players want it!!!!.

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this thing looks gay

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Welcome to the future and stop living in the past. There are so many good (but not necessarily GREAT) games that I'd like to play on PC, but im sure hell not gonna pay 50€ to actually buy one. With this thing you can cut all the unneccessary middle men from process of making the game and all you have to pay for is the game. Hell, you dont even have to pay for the console! A monthly fee and fair price for renting PC games (or buying rights for the game for life if you really wanna) sounds like a really good deal to me.

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@ Caer_Death Sorry mate, but it isn't a console, it's a set top/side box, a terminal, an access point to a service doing nothing more than encoding and decoding, there's no real processing done in the box. A 'Console' would provide some processing on board (maybe for offline play, but then you need the processing power to create the same visual quality that's done by the server. So no offline play, it's the connection, and the server that supposedly allows you to play HD games from what is basiclly a dumb terminal) And not everyone has access to acceptable broadband. Here in the UK the average is 2.5mbps. Only a few areas have access to fibre optics, which stil only allows 20mbps, although 50mbps is supposed to be available in the next 12 months, but where you pay \$35 we pay £35-£40, which is more like \$45-\$50. The networks are pretty stretched already and suppliers would struggle to provide bandwidth to enough users to make it viable here. See these comments http://uk.gamespot.com/hardware/blogs/hardware-insider/909185655/26825286/streaming-games-onlive-gaikai-otoy-anyone-else.html

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how teh fck? i dont see this workin.. i bet input lag is gonna be a serious problem.. very.. and, imagine gta 4, millions of copies sold in its release.. imagine what it would be like on onlive when a grand title like gta is released? millions of gamers are gonna pour in their server at the same time resulting in extreme lag.. but idk, this thing might actually work... well just have to wait and see..

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While I can see alot that can go wrong with this, I also see alot that can go right as well. My chief concern is whether or not you can play your downloaded/purchased games OFFLINE. Because everyone goes without internet once in a while - myself included. Steam (valve's service) won't let you play if you're not connected - AFTER YOU'VE ALREADY PAID FOR IT! The Wii, on the other hand, will allow disconnected play. Thus, I've stuck by the Wii. If OnLive can use the Wii's approach, I'm onboard. If it uses steam's approach, it'll fail. Most people won't tolerate that crap. I wouldn't.

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Sammonoske223 1: It is a console in the sense that you plays games on it, and far, far better hardware that gets updated a couple times annually. It's not a traditional console, but eventually the industry'll revolutionize itself again, and this might be the spark it needs. 2: Why do people like you keep insinuating that you need a GODLY internet connection? 5Mbps isn't godly... It isn't even all that great. You can get 20 TIMES that, read, enough to run this 20 TIMES over one connection for $35 a month. If internet service really matters to you, then pay for good internet service! Otherwise, don't complain about what you get. This should only be news implying upgrades to people with dialup, anyways, as you can still stream SD video with the lowest end broadband connections.

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1. It is not a console. 2. Better hope your internet is godly and never turns off.

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I really hope this works out, this is one thing they need to do though. To let people know exactly what their quality will be for games, create a website with a streaming test button or something. Click on the button and it will test your connection speed/quality. After tested, it will give you a run down on load times, if you'll be getting SD or HD, and other facts about it. Then you can base your decision off of those facts if you would want to purchase OnLive.

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Sun Microsystems was going in this direction a few years back. It's really the future of gaming on one side of the coin. Network gaming is the name, Monthly fee is the game

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This is kind of taking away form what mkes the gaming community... the gaming community. Making games work, getting new hardware, modding etc, all that stuff would be gone, and I don't know about you guys, but I like doing that stuff.

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If this turns out to be as good as it sounds, Steam are in serious trouble!!!

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sounds to good to be true also what about internet speeds? they r going to be pouring a gallon's worth of info through a freaking straw even if u have an 10 meg stream u will see alot of slow down still if it works right they wouldnt even touch console sales, but pc games on the other hand will take a massive beating

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It's a good idea, it wont kill consoles or PCs, it's will just be another gaming device.... and it will be an up and down turn of a choice of games they might not have.

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But what if the internet is out? And what are modders going to do?

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nice Idea but, bad for the pc gaming market on the hardware side and somewhat on the software side. I guess the way this works is all the software Publishers/Developers release their software as downloadable content. I truly think this is what the pc gaming industry is looking for, in other words a way to regulate software pirating. Steam was one of the first to do it(and many others), now its ONLive "you buy this little box and Wa La!! Boooo." I would much rather use whats already available, and dammit I dont need another brick hogging up desk space. Arrrrrh How dare you try to sell me a HDD that acts as some type of MC extender with a cheesy GUI. ok ok Im done!! He He :-)

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I dont think it can compete with consoles, as they are already cheap and run games very well. I'd rather pay £150 every 9 years for a console than £150 a year.

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I think this is a great idea. This is good for all the kids out there that can not afford gaming systems. This is also great for family's and average gamers that don't spend a great deal of time like most hardcore gamers. On the flip side of that coin, hardcore gamers will always be hardcore gamers and this will not turn their heads. Looking at some of these comments it seems some people here did not pay attention. This is a great idea for people who can not AFFORD gaming consoles or rigs. The hardcore gamer was not the target base, they know that it will not offer the control most of us hardcore gamers want. Also someone made a comment on there not being a patent. Thats just an unintelligent comment. These guys have dotted their i's and crossed their t's. The servers and hardware they have created themselves is new technology. Some of you who post dumb comments need to think before you speak. Most of you don't understand how your PS3 or HDTV works inside but you can enjoy the benefits of it. To say something is not possible or cant work is what makes your @$$ a consumer.

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Is everyone an idiot?? THIS IS NOT A CONSOLE ITS A MEDIA CENTER EXTENDER LOL just over wan of course

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I wonder how sony and all the other companies are going to react to this?

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im too stupid to understand... so ima going to throw a question in their ; will i be able to stream crysis 1080p on best setting ? would a publisher give their game to a third party just like that? cuz i doubt its that simple

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Another reason it might not get off the ground is they're only planning for an American release...? I was really excited about this till I found out about that.

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This is completely possible but it's going to fail for a number of reasons. 1 - People like to have hard copies of their games. 2 - If this system becomes a reality why would a publisher give their game to a third party to sell when they could easily setup a competeing service themselves? There's no patented tech here people. 3 - This will take masses of bandwidth, i'm assuming around a constant >3Mb. ISPs already enforce fair usage policies on heavy internet users, if gamers start having to constantly stream to play their games then their internet usage is going to become massive.

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