PS4's PS Plus Free Games Of January Still Available

@TrueLink: yeah except they didn't turn PS+ into the MP service. Remember, the online MP component for PS2/PS3 didn't used to be behind the paywall of PS+ service as they were completely free on those consoles. In my opinion, PS+/XBL service would have zero value if they didn't mandate people to subscribe in order to use the MP online component (bar some MMO/FTP/PTW games).

I would drop paying for PS+/XBL in a heartbeat if the online MP component were free or if more of my friends are on Steam.

@TrueLink: it is 2018 and the service is different.

There is no "established price/value" as both the price and services are different.(Even Qore is gone)

Just to reiterate my point: if you remove multiplayer as a feature is there a PS+ right now? And if you remove the free games can PS+ still exist?

Even in the case of launch ps+ the games were still a bonus and you could have a functioning service without them.

@tonyleo01: plenty of games on ps4 to play online that don't need plus...

@tonyleo01: oh, I know. That's the price you pay to play.

@consolehaven: Consoles were sold at a loss before online gaming and they just made money on accessories and games. They are sold at a loss because people won't pay for the actual value of a console. The PS4 has an 8 core processor in it which on it's own would retail around $1000, no one is going to pay over $1000 for a game console and these companies know that. My point is they knew how to make profits from losing money on a console well before Netflix even existed so charging extra for it later was just a greedy way to make even more money. Netflix was also always free to use since it came out though you have to pay for a subscription you don't also pay Microsoft to be able to use it on windows 10.

@consolehaven: If Microsoft AND Sony where selling their consoles at a loss then why was Microsoft the only one to not only charge for online, (PSN was free then) but hide streaming behind a paywall?? You are also assuming that a company as big as microsoft (one that has absorbed billions in losses) needs additional funding to make a console to sell at a loss.. It's not hard to understand that corporations exsist to make money, It is hard to understand why I would pay to stream something on xbox when every other streaming option available did the same thing for free.