Xbox One launching in November for $500

@Zaistev_basic 100% correct. AAA publishers are trying to obfuscate the real cause for their plight: their own mismanagement and greed. It's basic human (especially American/corporate) psychology...never take responsibility, never reverse course. Wall Street drove the global economy straight into a ditch...then asked this country to bail them out with tax-payer money. Similarly, AAA publishers look to be about to drive the console gaming business off a cliff...and at the same time are pointing fingers in every direction for someone else to blame...

@ScreamDream Even if that does happen, we gamers need to take a stance against M$ for what they are trying to do and boycott it still. We need to stand together and send a message to the greedy corporations that try to screw us whenever they can.

@Gravity_Slave Bad argument. Global/US recession still in effect. Median wages have gone DOWN since 2006. The economy was BOOMING in 2006 with no fear of people losing jobs by the millions. Cost of living has sky-rocketed with prices on nearly everything else doubling or tripling since 2006 (gas, energy, insurance, food, etc...). People are making less money in their jobs (if they have one) and have less disposable income to spend in 2013.

This is a very shaky time to release a new, expensive product. The cheaper the better. That's why price point wins, all other factors being equal. When you throw in all of MS's restrictive DRM bullshit, it's no contest. This is going to be a blowout win for Sony. Most people at best are only going to have the money to buy ONE of these systems...or rather, beg their equally poor parents to buy them one of these systems....and given the price difference and more powerful GPU with the PS4 without DRM, it's an easy choice.

@Gravity_Slave The X360+Kinect would cost more :)

@sneakthief81 Gotta agree on the controller thing. I'm really gonna miss that. Oh well, c'est la vie.

@Muteki_X I agree with you when you say the economy sucks right now and probably will for a while. However that has never stop Americans from living beyond their means. Quite honestly I don't think $100 is that much of a difference.

@Muteki_X That's another really good point. In a down economy, with many MILLIONS of people out of work or in danger of losing their jobs to off-shoring/down-sizing/in-sourcing/etc...we must consider there is a huge block of the population that may or may not be able to afford high-speed internet on a consistent, monthly basis. So, let's say you buy a XBone, purchase 5 or 10 new games...and then BAM your job gets sent to China and you have to cut back on your monthly expenses because the only replacement job you can find is working at Wal-Mart or McDonalds for minimum wage with no health insurance...so, high-speed internet is no longer affordable.

Well, you think, hey when I'm stressed out and not out pounding pavement looking for a new job I can kick back with my XBone and play some of the games I ALREADY PURCHASED, right? Wrong. Because of circumstances out of your control you would no longer have the ability to play the system and the games you just blew $1000 on. LOL

Now, when I think about it that way it pisses me off even more. Why the **** should MS be able to limit my ability to play games I already PAID FOR if my financial situation changes and I can no longer afford to be online month-to-month?

@txgamerwavg
1st place 3DO $700 & Philips CD-I $700

2nd place Neo Geo $649

@enoslives7 Couldn't agree more. Bill needs to get back on the horse and leave the Foundation to wifey before there's nothing left to save. Forced sales from Win8 lap-top packins are only going to carry this company so far and allow them to subsidize so many ginormous fuckups like the One before the coffers run dry. The competitive landscape is changing quickly and MS's cash-cow (OS) isn't guaranteed much longer.

Ironically, I think this is why they rushed the One and are trying to force the DRM policies...they are searching for alternative revenue streams...the current buzzword inside MS is "subscription model". Some people there truly believe they can bully their way into millions of living rooms trojan horse style and then replace, but not really replace (er herp derp) everyone's cable box...by making you, uh, hook your cable box up to the One...and then pay Micrsoft a fee to watch TV on top of the fees you already pay to watch TV....

Brilliant.

@ScreamDream When you purchase one, employees will be trained to read the disclaimer extremely quite and fast so you can't possilby tell what they're saying.

@ScreamDream it will be very small, even human eye couldn't see it

@ScreamDream It will be written very small like the surgeon general warning on a pack of cigarettes.

@twyz Actually, they may have picked the perfect name. Hopefully, after enough eyes are opened past the initial sales, then the system will only last ONE year before epically failing.

@saadomar90 please fill us all in on any great news coming from Microscam after the PS4 conference. Nothing has changed you said? lol

@saadomar90 Pre-order numbers are a valid point of discussion. The PS4 forums are actually pretty much all smiles right now. :)