Predicting Review Score Meter aka (HYPE-O-METER)

Right, my idea involves a meter being placed on every gamespace of a game that has not come out yet. The user then selects a number in increments of .5 between 1 and 10 depending on how well they think this gmae will score when the Gamespot review is published. The meter should be easily implemented as it would use the same tech and maybe even the same aesthetics as the current meter used today for user ratings of a game. Not only would this clear out much of the Hype Topics on system wars as once a user has placed his 'predicted score' on the gamespace, an average predicted score of all users would appear on the gamespace, to see what others think this game will be like.

Not only would this be a great addition to gamespot, but also a great tool to show your friends. For example, you can predict a games score all the way up to 5days prior to its release. Then the meter will not accept any more ratings as to not ruin some results and stop cheating. So then you can show your friends all of the scores you have successfully predicted which would stop the whole argument of 'well i never thought that game would be good anyways' or the 'see i told you so' kind of comments as the proof would be right in front of you.

And lastly these scores could also branch out into new emblems/prizes/competitions. Say you predict 50 games scores exactly then you could recieve an emblem. Or you predict 20 games in a row correctly you know something along those lines.

Anyway i hope i've managed to convey whats in my head well to you guys. Questions feedback and hey if anyone wants to create a visual representation of what it could look like, they would all be greatly appreciated.

Thanks everyone, Chris.

Sounds pretty good to me.

The only problem would be that lots of people would only give 10's or 1's. For example, say you have a fanboy who only likes games X console, and being the fanboy he is, hates all games on Y console. Everytime a new game is announced for X, he'll go and give it a 10 to raise its hype score, then do the opposite every time a game is announced for Y. Of course, plenty of people already do this with reviews and game scores, so if enought people did it honestly, it could balance everything out.

Anyway, cool idea.

RPG is right. User scores are already obscured by fanboys rating a game either 10 or 1 (10% of all voters for Bioshock called it abysmal). A hype-o-meter would have exactly the problem, if not worse, as a game's flaws or strengths aren't usually apparent before it's release.grarap

But surely the incentive of predicting a games score right and recieving an emblem or just recieving praise from friends is enough to turn away a large proportion of fake predictions.

Even still the System Wars board has many 'hype' threads in which users from all over GS can input what score they think a game will get. This system is hardly ever abused and even when abused has little to no impact on the final result as its all based on averages. Not to mention the system wars board has no sort of reward to predicting a game correct aswell as a way to show how many predictions you have got right and wrong easily.

[QUOTE="grarap"]RPG is right. User scores are already obscured by fanboys rating a game either 10 or 1 (10% of all voters for Bioshock called it abysmal). A hype-o-meter would have exactly the problem, if not worse, as a game's flaws or strengths aren't usually apparent before it's release.meischris39

But surely the incentive of predicting a games score right and recieving an emblem or just recieving praise from friends is enough to turn away a large proportion of fake predictions.

Even still the System Wars board has many 'hype' threads in which users from all over GS can input what score they think a game will get. This system is hardly ever abused and even when abused has little to no impact on the final result as its all based on averages. Not to mention the system wars board has no sort of reward to predicting a game correct aswell as a way to show how many predictions you have got right and wrong easily.

Hmmm, it could work...once. Once people get the emblem there would be no incentive to guess the score correctly. It wouldn't add anything to the site IMHO.

[QUOTE="meischris39"]

[QUOTE="grarap"]RPG is right. User scores are already obscured by fanboys rating a game either 10 or 1 (10% of all voters for Bioshock called it abysmal). A hype-o-meter would have exactly the problem, if not worse, as a game's flaws or strengths aren't usually apparent before it's release.grarap

But surely the incentive of predicting a games score right and recieving an emblem or just recieving praise from friends is enough to turn away a large proportion of fake predictions.

Even still the System Wars board has many 'hype' threads in which users from all over GS can input what score they think a game will get. This system is hardly ever abused and even when abused has little to no impact on the final result as its all based on averages. Not to mention the system wars board has no sort of reward to predicting a game correct aswell as a way to show how many predictions you have got right and wrong easily.

Hmmm, it could work...once. Once people get the emblem there would be no incentive to guess the score correctly. It wouldn't add anything to the site IMHO.

There is no limit to what requirements the emblem would be for so Gamespot could easily change or add new emblems to keep the community interested. I don't think people would ever lose interest in my enhancement especially when there are already hundreds on score prediction threads floating around that offer no incentive and lack any real degree of accuracy and accessibility.

I like this idea you have my support.

Fanboys will always be there so why ruin the run for the rest of us that aren't?

cryptosopoidium

Thanks, i'm going to try and keep this bumped because i really do believe it could have real promise and some feedback from an admin about whether such a meter could be implemented easily would be great.

I like this idea! btw, i would also like to rate the videos/trailers like on GameTrailers but that's a different topic :)Davidhye

Thanks alot guys for your feedback and yes that is a different topic.

I think it's a god idea, but it brings unwanted pressure on reviewers if they see what the game is hyped to receive. It'd still be pretty cool, especially if you had some kind of record in your profile of how many scores you have guessed correctly. Emblems maybe? :PKorubi

Well yes, things like this could open doors such as emblems and scores must be displayed on profiles if this is to become a good social feature.

About the unwanted pressure: Surely when Gamespot review a game, already there are many reviews of the game done as gamespot are rather slow with reviewing yet they aren't usually influenced by other magazine's or website's scores which are done by professionals rather than the community. I don't think that adding this would discourage reviewers in the slightest as they don't even have to look at it if they don't want to.

I like this idea, and i just want to add, you were saying you get an emblem for 50 correct predictions...emblem can change for 100 correct predictions, then again for 200 and so on. This way people still have a "motive" to keep predicting scores for future games.mack10

The whole emblem thing was just an idea i was throwing around there might not be a need for emblems at all. The requirements sure aren't set in stone, especially on the 'how many games can you predict the score of in a row'. Besides that idea though there could be other such emblem ideas like predicting many games' scores wrong, or they could be genre specific say your only good at predicting sports games, or driving games etc.

Anyway i've thrown out a couple more ideas and stuff but i think it would be cool if someone could do some concept or something to really get admins attention and create a more direct presentation of this enhancement.

Very good idea. I have been thinking about this myself but not really like this. More like a public hype-o-meter which shows the general hype for the game. But that probable wouldnt work well.

Got my vote.
Weslii

How wouldn't it work as it would just take an average of all scores submitted which would create the 'hype score' which would be displayed as, predicted score by GS users or something along those lines.

Any admins like to chip in and give me some feedback?meischris39

it doesn't work that way - they read and leave.

Bump?!meischris39

i don't think you are allowed to bump topics.

[QUOTE="meischris39"]Any admins like to chip in and give me some feedback?Davidhye

it doesn't work that way - they read and leave.

Bump?!meischris39

i don't think you are allowed to bump topics.

No people could give feedback as it helps the profile and the overall do-ability of my enhancement, not everyone just 'reads and leaves'

Very interesting idea. Take out the emblem part and I totally support 100% of it. Having a record also is a great idea:correct/quesses percent(10/20 50%).

not everyone just 'reads and leaves'

meischris39

i was talking about admins ;)

I just saw your post and thought it was cool idea. In answer to the fanboy thing and the hype meter wouldn't it be better if hype was tracked by traffic on the site. Surely if a game is hyped up then the traffic for that game would be huge. Things like the game being on top 10 lists and stuff, that would all make the meter increase, posts on the games forum, video views and ratings could all add up to increase the meter. In fairness if you want a meter system for users it is always going to be ruined by fanboys and such. The only way to stop this is by creating a system that doesn't just allow you to select a rating. If gamespot tracks individual users to each game every day then this is just a step to creating a hype meter. Logging individual picture and video views could also increase the meter. Also the meter probably shouldn't be a score out of 10. Just a bar that goes across mainly because a game could look like the best game ever and get really hyped then people would go buy it based on a hype score before they see the review. A bar wouldn't tell them how good the game compares to another and that might be a better way.

My ideas seem pretty crazy but I do like the idea of a hype meter but it should be fair, not ruined by fanboys with nothing better to do.

I just saw your post and thought it was cool idea. In answer to the fanboy thing and the hype meter wouldn't it be better if hype was tracked by traffic on the site. Surely if a game is hyped up then the traffic for that game would be huge. Things like the game being on top 10 lists and stuff, that would all make the meter increase, posts on the games forum, video views and ratings could all add up to increase the meter. In fairness if you want a meter system for users it is always going to be ruined by fanboys and such. The only way to stop this is by creating a system that doesn't just allow you to select a rating. If gamespot tracks individual users to each game every day then this is just a step to creating a hype meter. Logging individual picture and video views could also increase the meter. Also the meter probably shouldn't be a score out of 10. Just a bar that goes across mainly because a game could look like the best game ever and get really hyped then people would go buy it based on a hype score before they see the review. A bar wouldn't tell them how good the game compares to another and that might be a better way.

My ideas seem pretty crazy but I do like the idea of a hype meter but it should be fair, not ruined by fanboys with nothing better to do.

Robert-Sapolski

I can totally see where your coming from but the idea behind my enhancement is that it is incredibly simple to implement. Gamespot already have a slider for rating games in terms of their score of which an average is then calculated and the scores are displayed on your profile. In essence this is just an extension of that idea. Your idea is very good in regard to hits, but sometimes it is better to have more of an exact approximation rather than it just being in ' The Top 10 '. And besides, its more fun to be able to predict scores right and show them off on your profile which is what i've tried to get across in my writing.

Thanks for your feedback much appreciated.

it would be great if the highest rated hype-o-meter games would be on the front page Top 10 Coming Soon games :DDavidhye

True that the games that have the top 10 hype score at that time could be placed on the homepage in a similar fashion to the top 10 visited gamespaces on the homepage today.

I like this idea, you have my supportTimma1083

Sweet, thanks

his idea has alot of promise. Although i have seenmany argueon previous pages that fanboy's will abuse this system and give 10's and 0's. This already happens even in the SW threads so i do not see why it should stop us with this enhancement if itdoesnot those who venture into System Wars. Personally i think this idea is brilliant, and with the incentives provided it could work. It would, however, probably be sensible to make this something that either level 10's or above (15?) could only do to stop people making new accounts and posting HYPE scores.big_pimpin_99

Sure a minimum requirement would make this work even better. Thanks alot.

I like the idea. Seems like it will be a fun feature if carried through. Agreb91

Hopefully it will, i just need some admin feedback about whether something like this is possible or not.

I guess I'm the only one that doesn't like this idea. I see the hype and score-prediction of games as one of the problems with the industry. People decide whether a game is good or not BEFORE they play it (I don't know how that's even possible), and will go completely ape-feces if anybody dares to disagree with them. I think gamers should wait until they've actually played a game before deciding what score it deserves. A hype-o-meter as described here would be encouraging behavior I see as harmful.

Maybe this would work if the focus of the meter was to measure anticipation level rather than projected score. If you went to a gamespace for a game that wasn't out yet you could indicate how much you were anticipating it and that could be averaged into a general interest level for the game, rather than a score prediction.