Council of Regulars (CORE) - General Discussion

True. But we will come into action when it is most needed. And is it just me or does that woman (forgot her name) in our banner look like she's picking her nose?

True. But we will come into action when it is most needed. And is it just me or does that woman (forgot her name) in our banner look like she's picking her nose?

Chirag6

That's Ashe... And no. She's not picking her nose. *Looks closely... she's not!*

I have an idea with me. Announcement for officership position here at FFE has never been a really been a big success. What I think now is to have modship rotation among the most active and potential good and responsible officers to be taken from our regulars.

Basically, a group of active members will be chosen. After that, one of them will be given a set term of office as an officer. After his term, the next candidate will be promoted (demoting the first one first)... And so on. Maybe through this we can encourage officers to be more responsible for their position.

Let's brainstorm about this idea.

GREETINGS as of today I am now part of CORE I hope to prove myself up to the task at hand

and hope that the exsisting core members will offer guidence untill I get up to speed.

I have an idea with me. Announcement for officership position here at FFE has never been a really been a big success. What I think now is to have modship rotation among the most active and potential good and responsible officers to be taken from our regulars.

Basically, a group of active members will be chosen. After that, one of them will be given a set term of office as an officer. After his term, the next candidate will be promoted (demoting the first one first)... And so on. Maybe through this we can encourage officers to be more responsible for their position.

Let's brainstorm about this idea.

Fantasy_Gamer

I have an idea with me. Announcement for officership position here at FFE has never been a really been a big success. What I think now is to have modship rotation among the most active and potential good and responsible officers to be taken from our regulars.

Basically, a group of active members will be chosen. After that, one of them will be given a set term of office as an officer. After his term, the next candidate will be promoted (demoting the first one first)... And so on. Maybe through this we can encourage officers to be more responsible for their position.

Let's brainstorm about this idea.

Fantasy_Gamer

I don't see any problem coming. The rotation will not apply to current officers. They are regular as long as I'm the admin.

The rotation will only apply to future 1 to 2 officers to be taken from a group of officer-material members. I don't see any friction happening because those who will be part of the group where the officers will be taken will be notified that they will only serve for a per term basis. If they agree with the condition, then I don't see any reason for them to feel bad once they are demoted.

The rotation idea is raised up to see officers who are potentially good to be raised to the rank of a regular officer. Also, it will serve as a inspiration to those who aims to be a regular officer to do better than the rest of his batchmate.

As for the idea negating the very purpose of the CORE, I don't think it is not. The CORE was made as an advisory/evaluating body on what they perceive/think about the performance of the site, its officers, and it's current rules and policies. On the ther hand, those candidates for rotation are in fact officers. Although they may give their own advise/evaluation, they are basically promoted to worl for the site because only officers can do the things required to work the union like posting updates.

I'm glad to see the CORE participating. Feel free to voive out your opinion. :)

I don't see any problem coming. The rotation will not apply to current officers. They are regular as long as I'm the admin.Fantasy_Gamer

you know thats the problem with making a statement when you don't have the full picture lol

sorry if I came off a bit strong FG. BTW. what did you think about my idea that I sent you

after I tryed to go a little more in depth about? also now that I am a part of the core I will

try and post any such ideas here because I would welcome feedback from different people

btw FG with your idea would you want the core to keep tabs on the

officers that are put into rotation? so for example say you have a

one month term of office and in that one month if the core members find

that the officer isn't up to snuff we recamend that said officer be demoted.

I tryed sending FG a PM about this but it wouldn't go threw, so I'll post it

here for everyone to read and get input from everybody on it including

the officers. I've been posting here for a little while now as well as reading

posts by everybody. recentily there has been a little debate going about

off topie threads, now I have been noticing when reading posts that it

has usally been the same people posting over and over again. there has also

been discusions held about the union level not increasing something that I have

noticed for the past week maybe even longer. now this union has over 2000

members but only a bare fraction has bothered to contribute anything to this union.

so heres my  idea if a recruit has not contributed something to this union say for the

past two months without some kind of notice saying their going to be away for awhile

then I say it's time to have them resign from the union I would rather have a smaller

member base if it ment that the members we had left contributed something to this union.

after all if all your doing is adding to the head count then your really not doing anything at all.

even thow my joining was a random act I've tryed to give something to this union and that is

the main reason FG sugested that I become a member of the core, even thow I have no special

tallents other then giving a unique perspective on things. feel free to say what ever you want

about this message I'm going to invite the officers to read this message and give their input as well.

First of all, I think PMs are quite annoying. Haha, but anyway. Numbers do display popularity, and I think that booting people doesn't work. What is more important? We all need to contribute not just to the forums but actually writing articles and finding information on Final Fantasy regardless of our talents. Now, perhaps I am blind but we need to help Fantasy_Gamer out! If you have something on your mind, then write about it. But make sure it's sensible!

One thing that would make FFE even more popular is self promotion outside of Gamespot. I am on Myspace and I joined a FF group(the biggest there is in the Myspace community). Now that website has more traffic out of the wah-zoo, and you would assume that the Final Fantasy group I just mention would be heavily active. It's not, and I know people are looking for more which Final Fantasy Experience can provide.

I know it's Summer, and normally the videogame industry is in a stump around these months(especially last year), so Final Fantasy information is rare in some cases until the Tokyo Game Show. But maybe we can supply information with the help of our past experiences with Final Fantasy.

well we just had to wait until FG thinks about this idea of yours. but i have no problems with it if that ever happends.

I thank thoes of you who have responded to my message. let me asure you that

I am not trying to creat more work for our leader with my idea. I guess it just

puzzles me that if your not really interested in a union then why join? you should

have seen the message I sent to FG when he sent me a auto invite, I don't think

he was exspecting a responce like the one I gave him LOL. I have received

a couple of other offers but I declined because I either wasn't interested or

felt I didn't really have anything to offer them. It's kind of sad to say this but

this is about the only organized activity I have bothered to be apart of, so I

figure I can try and put something into this site

I've been thinking on another idea but this one is a constructive one.

basiclly in a union you have three classifacations Leader, Officer, and Recruit.

my thoughts are this, to help promote activity among the recruits, you look at the

ones that have been here awhile and have posted on a regular/semi regular basis

and you bump them up one notch, the idea is to come up with a new title for thoughs

people. let's face it the word recruit in the military is basiclly fresh meet. but the people

I'm talking about don't fit the bill for the title recruit any more, I'm not saying make them

officers, what I am saying for thiughs people who have been here awhile and have been

posting they deserve more then just to be called a recruit.

all this could be handled by the leader and officers, by working out a time frame for how long

they have been in the union and wether or not there regular/semi regular posters. and the ballance

to this idea would be the same as the officers if you fale to keep up your standards then you

get demoted. so what do you think

Soul, you seem to be putting forth some good ideas i hate to think youd feel bad cause we shoot ur ideas down so far, but youre proving to be a truely dedicated member of FFE so far, its a pleasure to have you here.jimbo_mog

[QUOTE="jimbo_mog"]Soul, you seem to be putting forth some good ideas i hate to think youd feel bad cause we shoot ur ideas down so far, but youre proving to be a truely dedicated member of FFE so far, its a pleasure to have you here.soulreaper187

FIRST ISSUE: There has been already a proposal before about auto-kicking of union members for inactivity, but Gamespot has turned it down. Number of members, active or not, shows how many people, past and present, has been and/or is interested with a union. They all form part of the union directly or indirectly.

On my part, I really believe that if you decided to be a part of a group, you have to have a part in the improvement of such, no matter how small your share is. Recruiting one new member a day is a big help for the union. Notifying the community of the latest FF news is great. Well, that's the ideal setup. However, the reality is we cannot force evryone to be active all the time, but at some point in time people also change. All we have to do is wait til they finally see the union as interesting as before.

Another thing, it is not only VERY cumbersome on my part (or any leader) to demote each and every inactive member. Recruiting takes so much time... How much more when demoting. (At 3 screen loads is needed to demote one member). Also, even if we perceive inactive members as harmless, it will create ill-will and such is harmful on the goodwill of a union.

SECOND ISSUE: Ah, the theory of Rewards and Punishment. I myself feel that we need some sort of recognition to our active members... After all, they are the lifeblood of the site. however, how can we do such a thing? The only thing I can think of as of now is to give them more of the things they want here at FFE to make their time spent here all worth it. We have a nice active discussion on board with our regular active members. We give them the FF news they love... Summons... Images... Videos.

Another simple thing may be of some help... A simple tag giving them some kind of "title" Like for Tom, I've always referred to him as our "Champion Poster" and he seems VERY delighted about it (and don't want to give it up). Well, I think maa can do something about it... I think he is incorporating something like that in his LoF.

The bad thing about that reward system is, as what NeoGen has explained well, it is usually used by those who have intention to be officers. Anyway, I don't have any problem about it as long as I'm the leader. You've seen in the past, I never promoted anyone on the sole reason that they are VERY active (You can name some that are no longer here :P). I always have an objective reason why I do certain things.

THIRD ISSUE: Don't fee lbad soulreaper if you think most are not in favor of your ideas. It's part of a democratic process. We appreciate the fact that you are actually taking an active part in finding ways to improve the site. It's just that we have different stand/opinion on each issue we raise.

thank you all let me asure you that I am not the least bit offened that my ideas

"for lack of a better word" were shot down, I secifically posted on this thread

for the other core members as well as inviting the officers so that I could get

their views and opinions, and I am thankfull that they treated my ideas with

due consideration and value my input in trying to help make this a better union

I think he is incorporating something like that in his LoF. Fantasy_Gamer

I have another Idea for you all. I just got done reading a posting

by a member and that is what gave me this idea. You know how

fg likes us to think of our selves as part of a family or a tite nit group,

well what if we created a thread for every one to post real life problems

kind of like a sounding board for everyone. Lets face it some times it's

easier to talk about problems or tough desisions to people outside

your family. for some people they can't even talk to their family's.

this would be a serious thread no joke's or making lite of anyones

problems or questions, sometimes all you need is a reseptive ear

to listen to your rant. well that's pretty much my idea in a nut shell.

so what do you think.

P.S. i'll bring in the officers on this one too.

I have another Idea for you all. I just got done reading a posting

by a member and that is what gave me this idea. You know how

fg likes us to think of our selves as part of a family or a tite nit group,

well what if we created a thread for every one to post real life problems

kind of like a sounding board for everyone. Lets face it some times it's

easier to talk about problems or tough desisions to people outside

your family. for some people they can't even talk to their family's.

this would be a serious thread no joke's or making lite of anyones

problems or questions, sometimes all you need is a reseptive ear

to listen to your rant. well that's pretty much my idea in a nut shell.

so what do you think.

P.S. i'll bring in the officers on this one too.

soulreaper187

 well i have no problem with that but we already have a Get to know each other thread so everyone talk there about their life and happenings. and there is also the general social discussion thread which covers almost everything when it comes to talking about life.

I have another Idea for you all. I just got done reading a posting

by a member and that is what gave me this idea. You know how

fg likes us to think of our selves as part of a family or a tite nit group,

well what if we created a thread for every one to post real life problems

kind of like a sounding board for everyone. Lets face it some times it's

easier to talk about problems or tough desisions to people outside

your family. for some people they can't even talk to their family's.

this would be a serious thread no joke's or making lite of anyones

problems or questions, sometimes all you need is a reseptive ear

to listen to your rant. well that's pretty much my idea in a nut shell.

so what do you think.

P.S. i'll bring in the officers on this one too.

soulreaper187

I wish to bring to your atention the curent posting of natiko on the general dicusion thread, where he made a statement saying that storm was no longer allowed in the union and to flame him if we saw him. two other members, one being a officer pointed out his rash action. I don't know what happend betwee the two, but I feel such a statment made by natiko was in poor judement. he made the posting on the general disscusion thread if you want to read the whole message. At this point I am not shure as to a course of action if indeed one is marrited at this point, but I beleive it needs to be dissicused.soulreaper187

we dont know what happend between those two, but we all know that flaming is not a very good thing to do especially here in GS.