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#151 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="FF-Is-Awsome"]

Heres that crap about him whining you bring up with very little evidence once again. But seriously if you think whining is all it takes to make you emo you really don't know what an emo is. Now if Tidus happened to listen to My Chemical Romance and sit in a corner cutting himself and crying about how horrible his life is i'd agree with you but odly enough he doesn't.

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I know what emo is and Tidus was very emo.

How do you know he doesn't? You never saw his home life. It shouldn't surprise anyone here if he does because he whines enough about it

NOBODY knows his homelife, whatever you SAY about that is nothing more than an assumption. And we all know what assuming does...it makes an ASS out of U and ME!

But the point is that he whines so much he cannot be anything but emo
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#152 fs_metal
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Not another Tidus thread. This is all your fault, DJ. :P

But like he said, "emo" is just a music s.t.y.l.e. There is, however, a stereotype that was associated with the people listening to emo music. The characteristics of an "emo" are long black hair, tight black t-shirt, tight jeans, skate shoes and usually enjoys to cut himself with a knife while crying. Someone like this:


Last I checked, Tidus looked nothing like that and he wasn't a music genre either. :|

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It's not just a music style or a stereotypical look. It's an attitude. Whining and crying constantly. That's Tidus in a nutshell
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#153 Sony_FanBoy
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[QUOTE="NWA_31"]

Not another Tidus thread. This is all your fault, DJ. :P

But like he said, "emo" is just a music s.t.y.l.e. There is, however, a stereotype that was associated with the people listening to emo music. The characteristics of an "emo" are long black hair, tight black t-shirt, tight jeans, skate shoes and usually enjoys to cut himself with a knife while crying. Someone like this:


Last I checked, Tidus looked nothinglike that and he wasn't a music genre either. :|

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It's not just a music ****or a stereotypical look. It's an attitude. Whining and crying constantly. That's Tidus in a nutshell

Ok, I must have missed something in my countless play throughs of FF X, when does Tidus whine all the time? Is it when he's fighting his Father/Sin? When he's beating the hell out of Seymour? Did you not see the opening cutscene where he blasts an opposing player out of the Blitz Sphere into the stands? What about when he knows nothing about fighting, yet he helps Auron fight through the Sin Spawn that have invaded Zanarkand? What about when him and the party invaded Bevelle on the cables, avoiding being shot down by the followers of Yevon? About when he decides to fight against the teaching and attacks Yunalesca to protect Yuna from sacrificing herself? Etc.

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#154 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="NWA_31"]

Not another Tidus thread. This is all your fault, DJ. :P

But like he said, "emo" is just a music s.t.y.l.e. There is, however, a stereotype that was associated with the people listening to emo music. The characteristics of an "emo" are long black hair, tight black t-shirt, tight jeans, skate shoes and usually enjoys to cut himself with a knife while crying. Someone like this:


Last I checked, Tidus looked nothinglike that and he wasn't a music genre either. :|

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It's not just a music ****or a stereotypical look. It's an attitude. Whining and crying constantly. That's Tidus in a nutshell

Ok, I must have missed something in my countless play throughs of FF X, when does Tidus whine all the time? Is it when he's fighting his Father/Sin? When he's beating the hell out of Seymour? Did you not see the opening cutscene where he blasts an opposing player out of the Blitz Sphere into the stands? What about when he knows nothing about fighting, yet he helps Auron fight through the Sin Spawn that have invaded Zanarkand? What about when him and the party invaded Bevelle on the cables, avoiding being shot down by the followers of Yevon? About when he decides to fight against the teaching and attacks Yunalesca to protect Yuna from sacrificing herself? Etc.

By asking "when does Tidus whine all the time" you answer your own question
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#155 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="NWA_31"]

Not another Tidus thread. This is all your fault, DJ. :P

But like he said, "emo" is just a music s.t.y.l.e. There is, however, a stereotype that was associated with the people listening to emo music. The characteristics of an "emo" are long black hair, tight black t-shirt, tight jeans, skate shoes and usually enjoys to cut himself with a knife while crying. Someone like this:


Last I checked, Tidus looked nothinglike that and he wasn't a music genre either. :|

fs_metal

It's not just a music ****or a stereotypical look. It's an attitude. Whining and crying constantly. That's Tidus in a nutshell

Ok, I must have missed something in my countless play throughs of FF X, when does Tidus whine all the time? Is it when he's fighting his Father/Sin? When he's beating the hell out of Seymour? Did you not see the opening cutscene where he blasts an opposing player out of the Blitz Sphere into the stands? What about when he knows nothing about fighting, yet he helps Auron fight through the Sin Spawn that have invaded Zanarkand? What about when him and the party invaded Bevelle on the cables, avoiding being shot down by the followers of Yevon? About when he decides to fight against the teaching and attacks Yunalesca to protect Yuna from sacrificing herself? Etc.

By asking "when does Tidus whine all the time" you answer your own question

He never whined during any of those events...:|

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#156 fs_metal
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He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?
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#157 DrAwesomeMD
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He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

If you ask me, Tidus stopped whining a little before you entered Sin. He still took way too long to suck it up though. Like, 50 hours too long.

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#158 TaCoDuDe
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FS, your "proof" was a single quote from Tidus which was debatably whiney. NWA, on the other hand, provided numerous examples of Tidus' optimistic outlook straight from the game's script.
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#159 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?DrAwesomeMD

If you ask me, Tidus stopped whining a little before you entered Sin. He still took way too long to suck it up though. Like, 50 hours too long.

Even that is enough to make his character horrible.
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#160 DJ-Lafleur
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He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

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#161 Sony_FanBoy
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?DJ-Lafleur

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

Exactly, the only emo character I can think of if Cloud. Granted over time he become more open and stopped doubting himself and allowed people into his life, etc. But he's the only characer I can think of that was "emo".

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#162 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?DJ-Lafleur

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?
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#163 TaCoDuDe
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

Correction: YOU'VE established that he was whiney. The majority of the people here disagree with you.

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#164 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

repeating the same sentence over and over again doesn't make it any more right.

I've heard it hundreds of times, yet I have never seen anything to back up the claim, and this just leads to me think that you don't show any proof because there is no proof to show at all.

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#165 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?DJ-Lafleur

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

repeating the same sentence over and over again doesn't make it any more right.

I've heard it hundreds of times, yet I have never seen anything to back up the claim, and this just leads to me think that you don't show any proof because there is no proof to show at all.

The fact that he whines makes it right, however,
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#166 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?TaCoDuDe

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

Correction: YOU'VE established that he was whiney. The majority of the people here disagree with you.

And the majority of hte people are wrong. So what?
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[QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

Correction: YOU'VE established that he was whiney. The majority of the people here disagree with you.

And the majority of hte people are wrong. So what?

Why are we wrong? Because we don't agree with you? Is that why we're wrong?

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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

repeating the same sentence over and over again doesn't make it any more right.

I've heard it hundreds of times, yet I have never seen anything to back up the claim, and this just leads to me think that you don't show any proof because there is no proof to show at all.

The fact that he whines makes it right, however,

......suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure......still ain't buyin' it.

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#169 Sony_FanBoy
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?DJ-Lafleur

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

repeating the same sentence over and over again doesn't make it any more right.

I've heard it hundreds of times, yet I have never seen anything to back up the claim, and this just leads to me think that you don't show any proof because there is no proof to show at all.

The fact that he whines makes it right, however,

......suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure......still ain't buyin' it.

Yeah, unlike fs, I gave proof that he wasn't whiny. He did struggle to understand what was going on, but last time I checked he fought through them and didn't just "sit in a corner crying and cutting himself". Also fs if you'd look at the poll.....not very many people are agreeing with you.

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#170 DJ-Lafleur
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Meh...This argument is pointless,...nobody is ever going to convince the other side...
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Well as far as i can see fs just can't admit that Tidus is not a whiney emo no matter how much evidence goes the other way he's just going to disagree. The fact is Tidus isn't a whiney emo but well you can't expect everyone to understand the game and its characters can you.

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#172 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?DJ-Lafleur

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

repeating the same sentence over and over again doesn't make it any more right.

I've heard it hundreds of times, yet I have never seen anything to back up the claim, and this just leads to me think that you don't show any proof because there is no proof to show at all.

The fact that he whines makes it right, however,

......suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure......still ain't buyin' it.

You cannot not buy it all you want. It doesn't change facts, and hte fact is that he whined
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#173 fs_metal
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Well as far as i can see fs just can't admit that Tidus is not a whiney emo no matter how much evidence goes the other way he's just going to disagree. The fact is Tidus isn't a whiney emo but well you can't expect everyone to understand the game and its characters can you.

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I won't admit that which is not true. Tidus was both whiney and emo. Telloing yourself otherwise or telling anyone else otherwise is lying
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?Sony_FanBoy

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

repeating the same sentence over and over again doesn't make it any more right.

I've heard it hundreds of times, yet I have never seen anything to back up the claim, and this just leads to me think that you don't show any proof because there is no proof to show at all.

The fact that he whines makes it right, however,

......suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure......still ain't buyin' it.

Yeah, unlike fs, I gave proof that he wasn't whiny. He did struggle to understand what was going on, but last time I checked he fought through them and didn't just "sit in a corner crying and cutting himself". Also fs if you'd look at the poll.....not very many people are agreeing with you.

No you didn't. Giving proof is pointless in this union anyway, All people do when you give proof is ignore it or go "Nuh uh! That isn't proof because I say it isn't proof." You people keep asking for proof, but every time I have provided it, you did this exactly, so what's the point? Tidus is whiney. That's all there is to it.
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?Sony_FanBoy

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

Correction: YOU'VE established that he was whiney. The majority of the people here disagree with you.

And the majority of hte people are wrong. So what?

Why are we wrong? Because we don't agree with you? Is that why we're wrong?

No. You are wrong because you ignore hte facts. You are wrong because you refuse to accept that someone else might be right for once. You are wrong because you are so damned stubborn and set in your ways that you cannot listen to anything that might contradict your opinion in some slight way. You are wrong because, even when showed proof, you throw it away and pretend it doesn't exist.
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#176 cloudstrife145
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fs, you argue too much. Tidus is a wuss no questions asked.
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#177 TaCoDuDe
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[QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?fs_metal

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

Correction: YOU'VE established that he was whiney. The majority of the people here disagree with you.

And the majority of hte people are wrong. So what?

Why are we wrong? Because we don't agree with you? Is that why we're wrong?

No. You are wrong because you ignore hte facts. You are wrong because you refuse to accept that someone else might be right for once. You are wrong because you are so damned stubborn and set in your ways that you cannot listen to anything that might contradict your opinion in some slight way. You are wrong because, even when showed proof, you throw it away and pretend it doesn't exist.

The only damn "proof" you've given is a single quote from the game, and the fact you say he is.:|

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#178 lo_Reaper_ol
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Wow, 26 post since I've last been on. Still haven't convinced them fs? I think you're right about the whinning part. He would get whooped by Zidane, also. :P
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#179 DJ-Lafleur
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FS, if this was an actual debate, you would be failing so hard right now, it wouldn't even be funny. You always need to support your thesis, or all what you are saying is just an empty, meaningless statement.

Me and others have gotten cold, hard evidence from the game on why Tidus is not a whiny, emo kid. If you cannot get evidence to go against this, then you fail.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact you nor any of the Tidus haters haven't shown evidence just makes me think taht you haven't since there probably isn't, again, meaning you fail.

So continue leaving no proof, fine by me, just means that I am doing a better job and am winning.

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#180 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Sony_FanBoy"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="TaCoDuDe"][QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

[QUOTE="fs_metal"]He whined throughout hte entire game. We've established this already. A long time ago. Why are we still stuck in it?TaCoDuDe

funny, I never remember agreeing with it.

If you keep on saying tidus is emo (which is pretty much all you ever say on the matter) me and others will argue it, because we do not agree with it. If you don't like it, shut up about Tidus, simple...otherwise, get used to the debates. Either way is fine by me.

with that said, how could anyone have gained respect for Tidus if all he ever did was whine? And again, the events previously mentioned did not contain whining from Tidus...it showed more courage and confidence from him more than anything...

regardless of whether or not you agreed with it, the fact is that he whined...alot. He was an annoying emo kid. How you missed this is beyond me. He is hte worst lead character in the franchise, far and away. We have established that he is whiney. Again, why have we not moved on?

Correction: YOU'VE established that he was whiney. The majority of the people here disagree with you.

And the majority of hte people are wrong. So what?

Why are we wrong? Because we don't agree with you? Is that why we're wrong?

No. You are wrong because you ignore hte facts. You are wrong because you refuse to accept that someone else might be right for once. You are wrong because you are so damned stubborn and set in your ways that you cannot listen to anything that might contradict your opinion in some slight way. You are wrong because, even when showed proof, you throw it away and pretend it doesn't exist.

The only damn "proof" you've given is a single quote from the game, and the fact you say he is.:|

Like I said. You ignored it.
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#181 fs_metal
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Wow, 26 post since I've last been on. Still haven't convinced them fs? I think you're right about the whinning part. He would get whooped by Zidane, also. :Plo_Reaper_ol
Damn yes. Zidane was a great character.

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#182 fs_metal
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FS, if this was an actual debate, you would be failing so hard right now, it wouldn't even be funny. You always need to support your thesis, or all what you are saying is just an empty, meaningless statement.

Me and others have gotten cold, hard evidence from the game on why Tidus is not a whiny, emo kid. If you cannot get evidence to go against this, then you fail.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact you nor any of the Tidus haters haven't shown evidence just makes me think taht you haven't since there probably isn't, again, meaning you fail.

So continue leaving no proof, fine by me, just means that I am doing a better job and am winning.

DJ-Lafleur

I supported my thesis. People chose to outright ignore my support for my thesis. they chose to act as if it didn't exist, and you want ty say that I am failing? Atleast I pay attention

You haven't provided anything solid. I provided something directly from the game that clearly showed him whining. What did I get as a response? "Nuh uh! He's not whiney! You are wrong and that is wrong." which tells me "Don't bother with evidence. Anything you put out there is going to be thrown away anyway becaused the people here are too thick headed to listen to reason." Since that is true, why should I bother trying? It's not like it will do any good. If it did any good, the debate would have ended ages ago.

Whining is a ton of voice. Quoted lines from the game do not indicate how they were said. Anything, no matter how positive it seems on the outside, can be said in a whiney tone of voice. The problem isn't the actor either because he plays Ratchet and guess what? RATCHET ISN'T WHINEY!

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#183 TaCoDuDe
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]

FS, if this was an actual debate, you would be failing so hard right now, it wouldn't even be funny. You always need to support your thesis, or all what you are saying is just an empty, meaningless statement.

Me and others have gotten cold, hard evidence from the game on why Tidus is not a whiny, emo kid. If you cannot get evidence to go against this, then you fail.

As far as I'm concerned, the fact you nor any of the Tidus haters haven't shown evidence just makes me think taht you haven't since there probably isn't, again, meaning you fail.

So continue leaving no proof, fine by me, just means that I am doing a better job and am winning.

fs_metal

I supported my thesis. People chose to outright ignore my support for my thesis. they chose to act as if it didn't exist, and you want ty say that I am failing? Atleast I pay attention

You haven't provided anything solid. I provided something directly from the game that clearly showed him whining. What did I get as a response? "Nuh uh! He's not whiney! You are wrong and that is wrong." which tells me "Don't bother with evidence. Anything you put out there is going to be thrown away anyway becaused the people here are too thick headed to listen to reason." Since that is true, why should I bother trying? It's not like it will do any good. If it did any good, the debate would have ended ages ago.

Whining is a ton of voice. Quoted lines from the game do not indicate how they were said. Anything, no matter how positive it seems on the outside, can be said in a whiney tone of voice. The problem isn't the actor either because he plays Ratchet and guess what? RATCHET ISN'T WHINEY!

We didn't ignore you. NWA posted a whole paragraph of lines straight from the script. You posted a single line.

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#184 fs_metal
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And, again, whining is a tone of voice. Posting lines does not indicate a tone of voice, so it is not real evidence. You ignored the real evidence that I posted so you all fail
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#186 DJ-Lafleur
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And, again, whining is a tone of voice. Posting lines does not indicate a tone of voice, so it is not real evidence. You ignored the real evidence that I posted so you all failfs_metal

Ummm...we all have definetely shown evidence from the game...have you not realized our paragraphs full sentences bringing up certain events from the game? And are you seriously going to tell me all of this:

something in my countless play throughs of FF X, when does Tidus whine all the time? Is it when he's fighting his Father/Sin? When he's beating the hell out of Seymour? Did you not see the opening cutscene where he blasts an opposing player out of the Blitz Sphere into the stands? What about when he knows nothing about fighting, yet he helps Auron fight through the Sin Spawn that have invaded Zanarkand? What about when him and the party invaded Bevelle on the cables, avoiding being shot down by the followers of Yevon? About when he decides to fight against the teaching and attacks Yunalesca to protect Yuna from sacrificing herself? Etc.Sony_FanBoy

never happened in the game? If so, you just got yourself an epic fail. And also, there was never one instance where Tidus shown any signs of being "emo" in these events. I clearly remember seeing courage, or else he would not ahve done any of those things...

Now yes, I'd agree that Tidus had a whiney tone of voice, but how does that make him emo?

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#187 cloudstrife145
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Uhm. Sorry FS, but I have to agree with DJ-Lafleur this time. Although you're seriously a big pain-in-the-butt when in an arguement cuz of all your attacks, DJ does have a point here.

IMO, Tidus was a bad main character. Not because of his so called "whiny" and "emoness"(which I have never suspected in the game at all), but because of his bad leadership. I seriously think Wakka or Auron would've made a better main character, or maybe even Kimahri. xD

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#188 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]And, again, whining is a tone of voice. Posting lines does not indicate a tone of voice, so it is not real evidence. You ignored the real evidence that I posted so you all failDJ-Lafleur

Ummm...we all have definetely shown evidence from the game...have you not realized our paragraphs full sentences bringing up certain events from the game? And are you seriously going to tell me all of this:

something in my countless play throughs of FF X, when does Tidus whine all the time? Is it when he's fighting his Father/Sin? When he's beating the hell out of Seymour? Did you not see the opening cutscene where he blasts an opposing player out of the Blitz Sphere into the stands? What about when he knows nothing about fighting, yet he helps Auron fight through the Sin Spawn that have invaded Zanarkand? What about when him and the party invaded Bevelle on the cables, avoiding being shot down by the followers of Yevon? About when he decides to fight against the teaching and attacks Yunalesca to protect Yuna from sacrificing herself? Etc.Sony_FanBoy

never happened in the game? If so, you just got yourself an epic fail. And also, there was never one instance where Tidus shown any signs of being "emo" in these events. I clearly remember seeing courage, or else he would not ahve done any of those things...

Now yes, I'd agree that Tidus had a whiney tone of voice, but how does that make him emo?

Certain events don't shwo the emotion shown in the game during said events, so just bringing up events gets you nowhere. It's evidence that gets thrown out before it can hit the stand. Like I said, whining is all in the tone of voice. Mentioning parts of hte game do not show a tone of voice, so mentioning parts of the game cannot be used to prove or disprove whining. He was emo. I demonstrated it. We all know he whined. Why are we stuck in it still? Why haven't we moved on from the fact that he was emo?
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#189 NWA_31
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Certain events don't shwo the emotion shown in the game during said events, so just bringing up events gets you nowhere. It's evidence that gets thrown out before it can hit the stand. Like I said, whining is all in the tone of voice. Mentioning parts of hte game do not show a tone of voice, so mentioning parts of the game cannot be used to prove or disprove whining. He was emo. I demonstrated it. We all know he whined. Why are we stuck in it still? Why haven't we moved on from the fact that he was emo?fs_metal

But for Tidus to have a whiny tone in his voice, he has to be complaining first. And as SonyFanboy already mentionned, Tidus was busy chasing Sin most the time.

As for the emo thing, since when does whining make someone emo ? :?

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#190 johngebreadman
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Well I think he is effing A!
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#191 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"]Certain events don't shwo the emotion shown in the game during said events, so just bringing up events gets you nowhere. It's evidence that gets thrown out before it can hit the stand. Like I said, whining is all in the tone of voice. Mentioning parts of hte game do not show a tone of voice, so mentioning parts of the game cannot be used to prove or disprove whining. He was emo. I demonstrated it. We all know he whined. Why are we stuck in it still? Why haven't we moved on from the fact that he was emo?NWA_31

But for Tidus to have a whiny tone in his voice, he has to be complaining first. And as SonyFanboy already mentionned, Tidus was busy chasing Sin most the time.

As for the emo thing, since when does whining make someone emo ? :?

Not necessarily. Anything can be said in a whiny tone of voice,

When you whine as much as Tidus does, it makes you emo.

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#192 Omnislash666
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He wasnt very old in FFX and plus number two doesnt work because at the end of X-2 Tidus becomes fully real. His Character's turnaround was interesting.......when i first figured out he would dissappear, was all like OMG! that F-ing sucks! His character looks cool in Dissidia though.
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#193 Omnislash666
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Vaan was way worse.
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#194 fs_metal
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Vaan was way worse.Omnislash666
Hell no. Vaan actually had life and fire to him. That alone makes him better than Tidus.
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#195 Omnislash666
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How are you going to say that tidus didnt have fire and life...you need to elaborate a little more.....He was an epic character..

VAAN WAS EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#196 fs_metal
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How are you going to say that tidus didnt have fire and life...you need to elaborate a little more.....He was an epic character..

VAAN WAS EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Omnislash666
Cloud was epic fail dude. Vaan may not have been epic when, but atleast he wasn't a whiney little bastard
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#197 DrAwesomeMD
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[QUOTE="Omnislash666"]

How are you going to say that tidus didnt have fire and life...you need to elaborate a little more.....He was an epic character..

VAAN WAS EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fs_metal

Cloud was epic fail dude. Vaan may not have been epic when, but atleast he wasn't a whiney little bastard

Truth. I'd take Cecil over him any day.

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#198 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="Omnislash666"]

How are you going to say that tidus didnt have fire and life...you need to elaborate a little more.....He was an epic character..

VAAN WAS EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fs_metal

Cloud was epic fail dude. Vaan may not have been epic when, but atleast he wasn't a whiney little bastard

yes, I'm glad no FF character is a whiney little bastard.

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#199 fs_metal
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[QUOTE="fs_metal"][QUOTE="Omnislash666"]

How are you going to say that tidus didnt have fire and life...you need to elaborate a little more.....He was an epic character..

VAAN WAS EPIC FAIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DJ-Lafleur

Cloud was epic fail dude. Vaan may not have been epic when, but atleast he wasn't a whiney little bastard

yes, I'm glad no FF character is a whiney little bastard.

Vaan wasn't. Tidus was though. Cecil whips all their asses. Terra was great too.
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#200 lo_Reaper_ol
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We can all come to the agreement that Tidus whinned in FFX. Am I right?