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if people hate campers because they get so many kills, then the campers are obviously doing what they intended to, and that is get as many kills as possible without dying.
people camp because it works
campers take advantage of poor level design by the developers. a game like MGS4 makes camping almost impossible since it lets you know who killed you and where he is, so the next time you can a different route and sneak up on that mofo. It's why even snipers in MGO move around.
cant remember if COD4 let you see who killed you, but if it does and there's still camping; that means the maps are as well designed. online shooters are all about out flankign your enemy, and if a game doesnt let you do that, it's broken.
edit. i'm a sniper myself. I have my best rounds in MGO when I play as a sniper. But I never camp, I keep changing positions because I know the guy I killed will be coming after me.
If you complain about a camper, your not good enough to play against that person. I used to complain against campers in CSS, but when I understood how they did it, and why. It was so much easier to kill them.
I still complain about a few campers, but thats only when they are Terrorists in De_Dust2 and are camping at the base with Sniper over and over again. Because thats not even trying to plant the bomb, but now I kill most of them aswell, so they can do if they want to, but they don't get much better out of it : )
You complain about camping in a game that gives you tools like a silencer and a sniper rifle? :roll:
You can't "camp" in COD4 ... there are no weapon spawns. In quake, you could "camp" the rocket launcher spawn and kill people that tried to pick it up.
Kids these days... it's like they never played an FPS before.
Well when your playing COD4 the only people who camp are people who have snipers or shotguns most of the time. Also in COD4, campers usually use claymores to have doors or windows closed to kill the enemy ifthey try to come from the rear. The thing is camping works but it is BORING as hell! Campers only do it for kills but its not worth taking the fun out of it. COD4 campers get really annoying especially when they are snipers in ghille suits hiding in the grass or bushes. If you do like to camp in COD4 you should always use overkill and use an automatic weapon such as the P90 or M4 Carbine etc. :D
BUT STILL I FRIGGIN HATE CAMPERS:!
I personally don't understand why people would do it, but I don't complain about it an awful lot, mainly because I just run in and take them out. I am a very aggressive player in games, I run about all over the place trying to pick up kills all over the battlefield. When it comes to sitting down with a sniper rifle, I can hold my own, but I get very bored with it, so I don't bother with it.
Plus, I don't care about my kill/death ratio too much so if I die, I just respawn and continue. For me, it's all about fun, I don't have fun sitting about. Others might have fun sitting about though, and I don't hate them for it, it's just not for me.
I think campers in general just got no skills.They´re afraid to get into the real action.I respect snipers who do really insane shots through the smallest PoV half over the Battlefield,but 98% of them are just annoying.They really ruined games for many others.Ever played a Match with 16 People where 12 of them are just camping near spawn-points?
I just don't get the tendency of people to whine about play styles. Unless someone is exploiting a glitch, the proper targets of vitriol are the game designers.
In Warhawk camping isn't the most rewarding posture for either individuals (in terms of KDR or points) or teams (campers lose every match type), but there are things (flags, zones, bases with sizable airfields) that are valuable to the team and need a few campers, and I have tremendous respect for the guys that weather cluster bombs, snipers, tank blitzes and airstrikes in order to safeguard those things.
Camping isnt necessarilly bad, its just that in some games, its so easy to hide, or spawn camp, why do anything else?
Its really bad. Thats why I like the Kill cam, so it eliminates campers, and makes them move position.
Spawn camping sucks. That really irritates me
I don't know if this is pure "camping" but I tend to move from cover to cover spots (for example a house or behind a car) and "defend" that area until the enemy realizes im in that position, then I would move to another.
It's kind of impossible to not play in that way because it's so effective. All I need is my trusty M16 with the red dot sight and my extra ammo perk and I can go a VERY long time without dying. The only issue I have is running out of bullets:)
if its sitting on your butt while you should plant the bomb, it should have penalty. other than that, leave them be...
i'm just some people here, bored by sitting and waiting for enemy. but i think its more real than jumping and firing guns, so for reality lovers, it should be fun to wait their prey to hunt.
i remember the people that whined about players using AWP's in counterstrike. the thing is, most of them couldnt fire a AWP straight if you dropped one at their feet.
there are two reasons why people complain about campers. one is that there is a fault in the game (bad map design, over powered weapon, etc...). the other is that the whiner is simply out skilled by the camper. either reason is not the fault of the camper.
if its sitting on your butt while you should plant the bomb, it should have penalty. other than that, leave them be...
i'm just some people here, bored by sitting and waiting for enemy. but i think its more real than jumping and firing guns, so for reality lovers, it should be fun to wait their prey to hunt.
TheLegendKnight
If you are talking about Call of Duty or Counter-Strike, there already is. It is called losing. :)
Before I retired from COD4 cuz I have so many other games to play, I would camp like crazy but get a lot of kills. I was definitly a camper. The key to being a good camper is changing location and not staying in one spot.
As for dealing with campers? The key is to just pay attention to the killcam in COD4 or stay focused to where the enemies at like in MGO.
In every online shooter, there's gonna be campers, whether some like it or not.
Before I retired from COD4 cuz I have so many other games to play, I would camp like crazy but get a lot of kills. I was definitly a camper. The key to being a good camper is changing location and not staying in one spot.
As for dealing with campers? The key is to just pay attention to the killcam in COD4 or stay focused to where the enemies at like in MGO.
In every online shooter, there's gonna be campers, whether some like it or not.
NYCKing87
Dude, then you aren't camping. Camping is sitting in one spot and not moving EVER. The way you define it, the only way to not camp is to make sure your character never stands still.
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