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#51 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.

darkdude2k12

... Seriously? Have you seen the Wii's library?

Gee. Have you seen the Wii's gimmick controller? It's the worst idea. Even the classic controller's a piece of crap. The only reason I own one is to play GC titles in component quality being that the cable's more than what I'm willing to pay for. (150 and up)

I'm saying that the Wii's library is much worse. The PS3's library isn't great compraed to the PS1 or PS2 maybe, but it has some great games and shares a lot of multiplats with the 360. Overall I'm pretty dissatisfied with this generation, however.

Is it that much already? I got my cord for around 80, but it is pretty ridiculous.

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#52 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

I doubt you've owned or played a GC/XBOX. Especially given the fact that you're stupid enough to give PS2 the edge on games due to JRPG's lol. You're so stupid it's comical.

Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.

darkdude2k12

Seriously dude? You can't be serious. Stop trolling. What year is it? 2006? You're stuck in the past if you think the PS3 still has no good games. It's 2012 dude, take a look at all the exclusives they've been pumping out for the PS3.

I owned a Gamecube BEFORE I owned a PS2. After I bought my Gamecube, most of my friends got PS2s, and after I saw all the great exclusives it had that I couldn't play on the Gamecube, I just had to get one.

I never owned an Xbox myself, only because I saw no need to get one. The only worthwhile titles it had were Fable, Oddworld and Halo. Some of my friends had Xboxes, that's how I got to play those games. But I never owned one because the exclusives it had didn't interest me enough, not like games such as Super Smash Brothers and Tales of Symphonia.

And what's wrong with JRPGs? They have extremely fun and dynamic battle systems and have a nice emphasis on story telling, making the players feel connected to the characters by the end. Don't be so narrow-minded.

Name PS3 games that even rival 360's massive library of games and superior ports. I'm not even gonna toss in the fact that the PS3 has the same crappy controller the PS1/PS2 had, Internet that's nowhere on 360's level, a higher price tag for essentially a console with identical graphics although I'd give the 360 the edge most the time....oh, and let's toss out the stupid gimmicks like PS3's motion tech, Xbox's Kinect (bullsh*t) and all the extras. Please leave out the specs talk being that they're HD twins lol. You must be a sony fanboy, which would make you an imbecile on purpose.

Or maybe you just have some sort of unreasonable distaste for Sony?

Nobody posting about how one videogame console is better than another has any right to go around using "nerd" as a putdown. JRPGs are games too. It's pretty widely accepted that the PS2 has a much better library than the GC and Xbox. In fact, many consider it to have the greatest library of all time.

Anyways, here's a list of non-JRPG horror games that are simply great on the console:

Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill 4

Siren, Siren 2

Clock Tower, Haunting Ground

Echo Night: Beyond

RE: Code Veronica, RE: Outbreak File 2

Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame 2, Fatal Frame 3

While RE: Code Veronica is a port that also saw itself on GC, most of these are fundamentally PS2 games that later saw Xbox ports. And of course, there are many other types of games for the PS2. I own quite a few PS2 games, but there doesn't seem to be an end to the gems for the system. For the Gamecube, however, I'm having trouble finding more than 10 titles worth owning.

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#53 darkdude2k12
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

You clearly haven't played enough PS2 games if your explanation for the PS2's massive library is that those games were mostly "sloppy rush jobs." XD

The truth is that the PS2 was the most successful platform in its generation, and developers wanted to make games for it.

Persona 3

Persona 4

Tales of the Abyss

Tales of Legendia

Kingdom Hearts

Kingdom Hearts 2

Final Fantasy X

Final Fantasy XII

Star Ocean

Rogue Galaxy

Dragon Quest VIII

Wild Arms 3

Wild Arms 4

Wild Arms 5

Dark Cloud

Dark Cloud 2

Jak and Daxter

Jak 2

Jak 3

Jak X

Sly Cooper

Sly 2

Sly 3

God of War

God of War 2

Bully

Ico

Shadow of the Colossus

DBZ Budokai 2

DBZ Budokai 3

All great games that WEREN'T sloppy rush jobs.

Dudersaper

You've proven nothing. Other than the fact that you're a JRPG nerd all whilst naming a game that wasn't an exclusive. (Bully) And again, more than 90 percent of the PS2's library are terrible games with even worst graphics. I can easily make a list of GC/Xbox games that are better.

Well I asked you to post those 90 percent you said you could easily point out as rush jobs. And also, when people name exclusives for XBox, responses are usually Halo 1/2, KOTOR, Jade Empire, and a few more, with GC it's SuperMarioSunshine, LoZ, and also a few more, with the PS2 you see much more varied posts, from either more JRPG oriented fans like myself and Geoff, platformer fans, action/adventure fans, etc, that must say at least a little bit about the exclusive qualities in the consoles. Again don't misunderstand me and think I'm saying Halo and KoToR are the only good exclusives for XBox and the same for GC with Super Mario, because I'm not saying that.

I've never even played Halo. Xbox had plenty of games, and just for starters I'll name a few- Phantom Dust, Blinx-Time Sweeper, Blinx-Masters of time and space, Conker Live and Reloaded, Otogi, Otogi 2, GunValkyrie, JSRF, Crimson Skies, Sonic Free Riders (the xboxcompletely blew the GC version out the water in graphics). Armed and Dangerous, Scaler,Conflict series, Kung Fu Chaos, KUF series etc.

That's not even scratching the list.Gamecube had loads of platformers that were top notch.Btw, I always get annoyed when I see Doom 3 and Halo listed so I can lean with you there.

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#54 darkdude2k12
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

Seriously dude? You can't be serious. Stop trolling. What year is it? 2006? You're stuck in the past if you think the PS3 still has no good games. It's 2012 dude, take a look at all the exclusives they've been pumping out for the PS3.

I owned a Gamecube BEFORE I owned a PS2. After I bought my Gamecube, most of my friends got PS2s, and after I saw all the great exclusives it had that I couldn't play on the Gamecube, I just had to get one.

I never owned an Xbox myself, only because I saw no need to get one. The only worthwhile titles it had were Fable, Oddworld and Halo. Some of my friends had Xboxes, that's how I got to play those games. But I never owned one because the exclusives it had didn't interest me enough, not like games such as Super Smash Brothers and Tales of Symphonia.

And what's wrong with JRPGs? They have extremely fun and dynamic battle systems and have a nice emphasis on story telling, making the players feel connected to the characters by the end. Don't be so narrow-minded.

hakanakumono

Name PS3 games that even rival 360's massive library of games and superior ports. I'm not even gonna toss in the fact that the PS3 has the same crappy controller the PS1/PS2 had, Internet that's nowhere on 360's level, a higher price tag for essentially a console with identical graphics although I'd give the 360 the edge most the time....oh, and let's toss out the stupid gimmicks like PS3's motion tech, Xbox's Kinect (bullsh*t) and all the extras. Please leave out the specs talk being that they're HD twins lol. You must be a sony fanboy, which would make you an imbecile on purpose.

Or maybe you just have some sort of unreasonable distaste for Sony?

Nobody posting about how one videogame console is better than another has any right to go around using "nerd" as a putdown. JRPGs are games too. It's pretty widely accepted that the PS2 has a much better library than the GC and Xbox. In fact, many consider it to have the greatest library of all time.

Anyways, here's a list of non-JRPG horror games that are simply great on the console:

Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill 4

Siren, Siren 2

Clock Tower, Haunting Ground

Echo Night: Beyond

RE: Code Veronica, RE: Outbreak File 2

Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame 2, Fatal Frame 3

While RE: Code Veronica is a port that also saw itself on GC, most of these are fundamentally PS2 games that later saw Xbox ports. And of course, there are many other types of games for the PS2. I own quite a few PS2 games, but there doesn't seem to be an end to the gems for the system. For the Gamecube, however, I'm having trouble finding more than 10 titles worth owning.

No. I dislike Sony fanboys. I can name 10 right off the top of my head for GC.

Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Battalion Wars, RE4, RE0, Gun, Wario Land, Rogue Squandron, Spirits and Spells (aka Castleween, a really underrated game), Pitfall (which I'm actually playing), Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins (for the RPG nuts), Eternal Darkness, PN 03 etc...

I could easily name 100.

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#55 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

Name PS3 games that even rival 360's massive library of games and superior ports. I'm not even gonna toss in the fact that the PS3 has the same crappy controller the PS1/PS2 had, Internet that's nowhere on 360's level, a higher price tag for essentially a console with identical graphics although I'd give the 360 the edge most the time....oh, and let's toss out the stupid gimmicks like PS3's motion tech, Xbox's Kinect (bullsh*t) and all the extras. Please leave out the specs talk being that they're HD twins lol. You must be a sony fanboy, which would make you an imbecile on purpose.

darkdude2k12

Or maybe you just have some sort of unreasonable distaste for Sony?

Nobody posting about how one videogame console is better than another has any right to go around using "nerd" as a putdown. JRPGs are games too. It's pretty widely accepted that the PS2 has a much better library than the GC and Xbox. In fact, many consider it to have the greatest library of all time.

Anyways, here's a list of non-JRPG horror games that are simply great on the console:

Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill 4

Siren, Siren 2

Clock Tower, Haunting Ground

Echo Night: Beyond

RE: Code Veronica, RE: Outbreak File 2

Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame 2, Fatal Frame 3

While RE: Code Veronica is a port that also saw itself on GC, most of these are fundamentally PS2 games that later saw Xbox ports. And of course, there are many other types of games for the PS2. I own quite a few PS2 games, but there doesn't seem to be an end to the gems for the system. For the Gamecube, however, I'm having trouble finding more than 10 titles worth owning.

No. I dislike Sony fanboys. I can name 10 right off the top of my head for GC.

Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Battalion Wars, RE4, RE0, Gun, Wario Land, Rogue Squandron, Spirits and Spells (aka Castleween, a really underrated game), Pitfall (which I'm actually playing), Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins (for the RPG nuts), Eternal Darkness, PN 03 etc...

I could easily name 100.

do you actually own 100 Gamecube games?
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I honestly loved my GameCube to death. Even though I knew the Wii was fully backwards compatible with the games I still kept it. I would place it as my second favourite console of all time.
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#57 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

Name PS3 games that even rival 360's massive library of games and superior ports. I'm not even gonna toss in the fact that the PS3 has the same crappy controller the PS1/PS2 had, Internet that's nowhere on 360's level, a higher price tag for essentially a console with identical graphics although I'd give the 360 the edge most the time....oh, and let's toss out the stupid gimmicks like PS3's motion tech, Xbox's Kinect (bullsh*t) and all the extras. Please leave out the specs talk being that they're HD twins lol. You must be a sony fanboy, which would make you an imbecile on purpose.

darkdude2k12

Or maybe you just have some sort of unreasonable distaste for Sony?

Nobody posting about how one videogame console is better than another has any right to go around using "nerd" as a putdown. JRPGs are games too. It's pretty widely accepted that the PS2 has a much better library than the GC and Xbox. In fact, many consider it to have the greatest library of all time.

Anyways, here's a list of non-JRPG horror games that are simply great on the console:

Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill 4

Siren, Siren 2

Clock Tower, Haunting Ground

Echo Night: Beyond

RE: Code Veronica, RE: Outbreak File 2

Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame 2, Fatal Frame 3

While RE: Code Veronica is a port that also saw itself on GC, most of these are fundamentally PS2 games that later saw Xbox ports. And of course, there are many other types of games for the PS2. I own quite a few PS2 games, but there doesn't seem to be an end to the gems for the system. For the Gamecube, however, I'm having trouble finding more than 10 titles worth owning.

No. I dislike Sony fanboys. I can name 10 right off the top of my head for GC.

Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Battalion Wars, RE4, RE0, Gun, Wario Land, Rogue Squandron, Spirits and Spells (aka Castleween, a really underrated game), Pitfall (which I'm actually playing), Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins (for the RPG nuts), Eternal Darkness, PN 03 etc...

I could easily name 100.

Ah, that's right. Starfox Assault and Baten Kaitos. I should get those.

I didn't care for Starfox Adventures. Nor did I really like the GC Zelda games. But my GC came with the collector's disc so I'm happy with that.

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#58 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Or maybe you just have some sort of unreasonable distaste for Sony?

Nobody posting about how one videogame console is better than another has any right to go around using "nerd" as a putdown. JRPGs are games too. It's pretty widely accepted that the PS2 has a much better library than the GC and Xbox. In fact, many consider it to have the greatest library of all time.

Anyways, here's a list of non-JRPG horror games that are simply great on the console:

Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill 4

Siren, Siren 2

Clock Tower, Haunting Ground

Echo Night: Beyond

RE: Code Veronica, RE: Outbreak File 2

Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame 2, Fatal Frame 3

While RE: Code Veronica is a port that also saw itself on GC, most of these are fundamentally PS2 games that later saw Xbox ports. And of course, there are many other types of games for the PS2. I own quite a few PS2 games, but there doesn't seem to be an end to the gems for the system. For the Gamecube, however, I'm having trouble finding more than 10 titles worth owning.

Darkman2007

No. I dislike Sony fanboys. I can name 10 right off the top of my head for GC.

Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Battalion Wars, RE4, RE0, Gun, Wario Land, Rogue Squandron, Spirits and Spells (aka Castleween, a really underrated game), Pitfall (which I'm actually playing), Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins (for the RPG nuts), Eternal Darkness, PN 03 etc...

I could easily name 100.

do you actually own 100 Gamecube games?

I don't even own 100 PS2 games and I consider myself to own perhaps too many games. :P

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#59 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

No. I dislike Sony fanboys. I can name 10 right off the top of my head for GC.

Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Battalion Wars, RE4, RE0, Gun, Wario Land, Rogue Squandron, Spirits and Spells (aka Castleween, a really underrated game), Pitfall (which I'm actually playing), Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins (for the RPG nuts), Eternal Darkness, PN 03 etc...

I could easily name 100.

hakanakumono

do you actually own 100 Gamecube games?

I don't even own 100 PS2 games and I consider myself to own perhaps too many games. :P

well I have 90+ PC games, and around 90 Saturn games, so Im mighty close to being in the collector/insanity group :P
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#60 hakanakumono
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] do you actually own 100 Gamecube games?Darkman2007

I don't even own 100 PS2 games and I consider myself to own perhaps too many games. :P

well I have 90+ PC games, and around 90 Saturn games, so Im mighty close to being in the collector/insanity group :P

I collect games, but only tend to keep ones I'm fond of. I own 19 ... soon to be 21 Saturn games.

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I've never even played Halo. Xbox had plenty of games, and just for starters I'll name a few- Phantom Dust, Blinx-Time Sweeper, Blinx-Masters of time and space, Conker Live and Reloaded, Otogi, Otogi 2, GunValkyrie, JSRF, Crimson Skies, Sonic Free Riders (the xboxcompletely blew the GC version out the water in graphics). Armed and Dangerous, Scaler,Conflict series, Kung Fu Chaos, KUF series etc.

That's not even scratching the list.Gamecube had loads of platformers that were top notch.Btw, I always get annoyed when I see Doom 3 and Halo listed so I can lean with you there.

darkdude2k12

I have Otogi and Gunvalyrie, I like them but I haven't played much yet to form an actual opinions, on the others, I also like Sonic Free Riders, and Phantom Dust, and some in there I wouldnt call great, like Armed & Dangerous and Scaler, but that's just a matter of my opion not actually saying they're bad games.

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Starfox Adventures Outright a not fun game. Replace with Harvest Moon: Magical Melody

Starfox Assault

Battalion Wars

RE4

RE0 REmake is far surprerior to RE0 in most every way.

Gun Not exclusive, and not that good. The correct answer would have been Metroid Prime 1 or 2.

Wario Land You mean Wario World? That was fun, but too short. You'd have been better off naming Luigi's Mansion or even Super Mario Sunshine.

Rogue Squandron

Spirits and Spells Never heard of it, but you seen to be alone in liking it. Again, either platform I listed would have been better.

Pitfall

Baten Kaitos Both Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia would have been much better JRPGs to name. I liked BK, but just barely.

Baten Kaitos Origins But certainly not enough to pick up the prequel.

Eternal Darkness :D

PN 03 Eh, mixed feelings.

I can't tell if you were just trying to recommend lesser-known GCN games, but if you're making a list of games to defend the library of the GCN, you don't start out with your third stringers. On top of the other games I've mentioned, where's Wind Waker, Twin Snakes, Pikmin 2, Paper Mario, or Viewtiful Joe? People do tend to criticize the GCN library, but it does have a diverse line-up of great games. Just because it's made by Nintendo doesn't mean it's the same genre.

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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

A lot of the snes type ports had a more restricted view. Also, graphics just don't matter on a portable. The best GBA games are best played on the SP model. Plain and simple. Why in the world would I want to play a game like Advance Wars on the couch? Different game design for different scenerios. Part of the reason the GBA was so great was because the unit was a TRUE portable in form and also in game design.

Heirren

Being portable was never an issue here. So why are you arguing that? It was simply about the games being much better LOOKING on the Gameboy Player than they ever were on any Gameboy/GBA model. And there's no comparison or room for argument when it comes to that. The Gameboy Player looks SO MUCH better than even the SP (which is the model of GBA that I own, along with a GBC and original GB).

See, I just simply disagree. I enjoy the per-pixel sharpness playing the games on the SP model.

Okay, you can disagree. But you're wrong about the SP looking sharper. Anyone with 2 eyes can plainly see the difference that the Gameboy Player makes.

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[QUOTE="GeoffZak"]

[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

I doubt you've owned or played a GC/XBOX. Especially given the fact that you're stupid enough to give PS2 the edge on games due to JRPG's lol. You're so stupid it's comical.

Zip it, dork. Afterall, the PS3's the worst this gen with games. I'd give the spot to Wii, but the ps3 is absolutely horrible besides a few games.

darkdude2k12

Seriously dude? You can't be serious. Stop trolling. What year is it? 2006? You're stuck in the past if you think the PS3 still has no good games. It's 2012 dude, take a look at all the exclusives they've been pumping out for the PS3.

I owned a Gamecube BEFORE I owned a PS2. After I bought my Gamecube, most of my friends got PS2s, and after I saw all the great exclusives it had that I couldn't play on the Gamecube, I just had to get one.

I never owned an Xbox myself, only because I saw no need to get one. The only worthwhile titles it had were Fable, Oddworld and Halo. Some of my friends had Xboxes, that's how I got to play those games. But I never owned one because the exclusives it had didn't interest me enough, not like games such as Super Smash Brothers and Tales of Symphonia.

And what's wrong with JRPGs? They have extremely fun and dynamic battle systems and have a nice emphasis on story telling, making the players feel connected to the characters by the end. Don't be so narrow-minded.

Name PS3 games that even rival 360's massive library of games and superior ports. I'm not even gonna toss in the fact that the PS3 has the same crappy controller the PS1/PS2 had, Internet that's nowhere on 360's level, a higher price tag for essentially a console with identical graphics although I'd give the 360 the edge most the time....oh, and let's toss out the stupid gimmicks like PS3's motion tech, Xbox's Kinect (bullsh*t) and all the extras. Please leave out the specs talk being that they're HD twins lol. You must be a sony fanboy, which would make you an imbecile on purpose.

Even though I don't like all of these exclusives, you can't deny that these titles have made the PS3 relevant. People love em!

Uncharted 1-3, LittleBigPlanet 1+2, Warhawk, Naruto UNS, White Knight Chronicles 1+2, Killzone 2+3, Resistance 1-3, Demons Souls and Metal Gear Solid 4.

I'm sure I'm missing a few.

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#65 GeoffZak
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PS2 is probably my favourite console of last gen, but I can say that nearly half the titles you listed don't qualify as "great." Where's either Disgaea? GTA? Katamari? MGS? Okami? Ratchet & Clank? Shadow Hearts: Covenant? Come on, bro!

homegirl2180

Of course they all qualify as great! How can you like JPRGs and not enjoy classics like Tales of the Abyss, Kingdom Hearts, Rogue Galaxy and Dragon Quest VIII?

I never cared for the Disgaea, GTA, Okami and Ratchet and Clank games. Ratchet and Clank bored the hell of out of me the most. But I never got a chance to play Shadow Hearts, but I REALLY want to.

And I can't believe I forgot about Metal Gear Solid 2 +3! Those two games were epic.

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[QUOTE="darkdude2k12"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Or maybe you just have some sort of unreasonable distaste for Sony?

Nobody posting about how one videogame console is better than another has any right to go around using "nerd" as a putdown. JRPGs are games too. It's pretty widely accepted that the PS2 has a much better library than the GC and Xbox. In fact, many consider it to have the greatest library of all time.

Anyways, here's a list of non-JRPG horror games that are simply great on the console:

Silent Hill 2, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill 4

Siren, Siren 2

Clock Tower, Haunting Ground

Echo Night: Beyond

RE: Code Veronica, RE: Outbreak File 2

Fatal Frame, Fatal Frame 2, Fatal Frame 3

While RE: Code Veronica is a port that also saw itself on GC, most of these are fundamentally PS2 games that later saw Xbox ports. And of course, there are many other types of games for the PS2. I own quite a few PS2 games, but there doesn't seem to be an end to the gems for the system. For the Gamecube, however, I'm having trouble finding more than 10 titles worth owning.

Darkman2007

No. I dislike Sony fanboys. I can name 10 right off the top of my head for GC.

Starfox Adventures, Starfox Assault, Battalion Wars, RE4, RE0, Gun, Wario Land, Rogue Squandron, Spirits and Spells (aka Castleween, a really underrated game), Pitfall (which I'm actually playing), Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos Origins (for the RPG nuts), Eternal Darkness, PN 03 etc...

I could easily name 100.

do you actually own 100 Gamecube games?

Yep. I own well over 100 for the GC. For the Xbox I have about 100. Dreamcast, I'd say around 70 or more. 5 for the Ps2 since I'm starting from scratch again. A little over 40 for the Saturn. The SNES/Genesis games are all emu'd and burnt. Same with the Neo for Dreamcast.

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#67 darkdude2k12
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Starfox Adventures Outright a not fun game. Replace with Harvest Moon: Magical Melody

Starfox Assault

Battalion Wars

RE4

RE0 REmake is far surprerior to RE0 in most every way.

Gun Not exclusive, and not that good. The correct answer would have been Metroid Prime 1 or 2.

Wario Land You mean Wario World? That was fun, but too short. You'd have been better off naming Luigi's Mansion or even Super Mario Sunshine.

Rogue Squandron

Spirits and Spells Never heard of it, but you seen to be alone in liking it. Again, either platform I listed would have been better.

Pitfall

Baten Kaitos Both Tales of Symphonia and Skies of Arcadia would have been much better JRPGs to name. I liked BK, but just barely.

Baten Kaitos Origins But certainly not enough to pick up the prequel.

Eternal Darkness :D

PN 03 Eh, mixed feelings.

I can't tell if you were just trying to recommend lesser-known GCN games, but if you're making a list of games to defend the library of the GCN, you don't start out with your third stringers. On top of the other games I've mentioned, where's Wind Waker, Twin Snakes, Pikmin 2, Paper Mario, or Viewtiful Joe? People do tend to criticize the GCN library, but it does have a diverse line-up of great games. Just because it's made by Nintendo doesn't mean it's the same genre.

homegirl2180

That's your opinion of what games should be replacing each on the list. I created a list of lesser known titles that are quality and you're free to feel otherwise. I'm not gonna name the usual BS like Metroid Prime just to satisfy your fanboy needs. Fact is, there are many platformers available for the Cube that are top notch and superior to ports.

I can easily say- Vexx (which was also for Xbox. Excellent platformer), Spartan- Total Warrior, Viewtiful Joe 2 (which I still love), Ultimate Muscle- Legends vs. New Generation (one of the best fighting/wrestling titles; period), Geist, Sphinx and the cursed mummy (superior port, the xbox version looked even better), Soul Calibur 2 (the GC had the best version by far), Second sight etc.

I could name games throughout the duration of this thread that are worth playing and I didn't include the great LOTR titles which were top notch for the GC.

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One thing I never understood last gen was the GC bashers. When infact this console was and still is amazing. Lots of platformers, excellent rpgs and fighting games etc....plus the GC's better than the gimmick Wii. (fact) Lots of games were on par with Xbox games. (I'd know because I still own both of them, though the Xbox does offer better graphics at times)...it's durable. (I couldn't keep my 360 on all day or let it fall)...I'm no nintendo fanboy, but the Cube owned.

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GC fans last gen: OMG Sony lolol, this time we have CDs you can;t win. Oh? Well we have more power and great first-party games? What? Well we have the better support. Look at these games! What? Well uhhh the PCBOX won;t do anything. All it is is a PC in a console shell. Lol We have more recognizable and popular franchise exclsuvie and mutli then teh PC box. PC box doesn;t have real games, lol PC. PC box online gaming? Peh. PS3 copy after PCbox for online gaming? Ehe let's use some. aOnline gaming not working. let's not use first-party anbd add more support for the GB player. We have so many GBA and GC game with Melee and stuff out it's just a better device then the PS2-looks at ps2 sales- I mean the PCbox lol. PC box is going to discontinue? Cut all support? Lol we can stroll right pass them for selling for another 3 years with wonder ful games. Well new project time to disconitinue the gamecube and stare at teh PCBOX far behi- IN FRONT!?!?!? It hasn;t been doing jack for 3 years and we still sold less console? ?#?@#@?#@?!@?!? is going ON HERE!??!??!? I mean other then some exaggerations GC fans didn;t help themselves last gen.
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I can easily say- Vexx (which was also for Xbox. Excellent platformer), Spartan- Total Warrior, Viewtiful Joe 2 (which I still love), Ultimate Muscle- Legends vs. New Generation (one of the best fighting/wrestling titles; period), Geist, Sphinx and the cursed mummy (superior port, the xbox version looked even better), Soul Calibur 2 (the GC had the best version by far), Second sight etc.

I could name games throughout the duration of this thread that are worth playing and I didn't include the great LOTR titles which were top notch for the GC.

darkdude2k12

All of those aren't exclusive though apart from Geist (I think), I do however agree the XBox and GC versions of them are most probably better than the PS2 version, as I've played both PS2/GC versions of SC2 and played Spartan Total Warrior on the PS2/GC also and they both look substantially better on the GC, but I think you get my point.

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well I was probably considered a GC Basher at one point, but not anymore. I actually own a few GC games because my GF has a GC. The only thing I still dont care much for is the Gamecube controller. The wavebird wireless is a bit nicer than the wired, but it's still just goofy. The ps2 controller is just SO much better in my opinion. and the fact that the GC can't play DVDs. but other than that, the graphics are good and the games load fast, so it's totally worth $30 to get one if you're unsure. I have bought a few really cheap games at Gamestop in the last week too. $2.69 for Rogue Squadron2, $3.59 for Metroid prime, and $1.79 for Smuggler's Run. Now I think i'll look for some more GC exclusives to try out if I can find them cheap.

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I do agree with the controller, I think it's simple and great, great to hold. The GC seemed a bit wierd to me at times, and at the start the XBox controller also took some getting used to since it's fatter and you have a slightly different way of holding it. I think all 3 controllers are good though, none of them I would consider bad.
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[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I do agree with the controller, I think it's simple and great, great to hold. The GC seemed a bit wierd to me at times, and at the start the XBox controller also took some getting used to since it's fatter and you have a slightly different way of holding it. I think all 3 controllers are good though, none of them I would consider bad.

you forgot the Dreamcast , and its awful controller, frankly if I had to rank the controllers it would be PS2>Gamecube>Xbox>Dreamcast. although I will say the original Xbox controller (or at least the S-controller) has a very nice d-pad for fighting games, better than the DC and GC, and I would argue better than the PS d-pad.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I do agree with the controller, I think it's simple and great, great to hold. The GC seemed a bit wierd to me at times, and at the start the XBox controller also took some getting used to since it's fatter and you have a slightly different way of holding it. I think all 3 controllers are good though, none of them I would consider bad.

you forgot the Dreamcast , and its awful controller, frankly if I had to rank the controllers it would be PS2>Gamecube>Xbox>Dreamcast. although I will say the original Xbox controller (or at least the S-controller) has a very nice d-pad for fighting games, better than the DC and GC, and I would argue better than the PS d-pad.

Pretty much agree with everything you said, I'd just trade GC and the XBox S-Controller. And yeah, the DC controller was very awkward to use, almost as much as the N64's. And the plug comming from the bottom of the controller instead of the top like all other controllers just seemed wierd too.
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[QUOTE="Dudersaper"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I do agree with the controller, I think it's simple and great, great to hold. The GC seemed a bit wierd to me at times, and at the start the XBox controller also took some getting used to since it's fatter and you have a slightly different way of holding it. I think all 3 controllers are good though, none of them I would consider bad.

you forgot the Dreamcast , and its awful controller, frankly if I had to rank the controllers it would be PS2>Gamecube>Xbox>Dreamcast. although I will say the original Xbox controller (or at least the S-controller) has a very nice d-pad for fighting games, better than the DC and GC, and I would argue better than the PS d-pad.

Pretty much agree with everything you said, I'd just trade GC and the XBox S-Controller. And yeah, the DC controller was very awkward to use, almost as much as the N64's. And the plug comming from the bottom of the controller instead of the top like all other controllers just seemed wierd too.

its annoying, as its basically a Saturn 3D controller, but even bigger, and with less buttons, which was another stupid thing.
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

Being portable was never an issue here. So why are you arguing that? It was simply about the games being much better LOOKING on the Gameboy Player than they ever were on any Gameboy/GBA model. And there's no comparison or room for argument when it comes to that. The Gameboy Player looks SO MUCH better than even the SP (which is the model of GBA that I own, along with a GBC and original GB).

Emerald_Warrior

See, I just simply disagree. I enjoy the per-pixel sharpness playing the games on the SP model.

Okay, you can disagree. But you're wrong about the SP looking sharper. Anyone with 2 eyes can plainly see the difference that the Gameboy Player makes.

I'm not wrong, I'm right. There's no arguing that per-pixel is the truest, sharpest way to view a game in its original form. If you are referring to the GCplayer enhancing the game visually, well that is a different story. Personally I feel that emulators that run filters on old games make them look worse.

For example:

THIS looks like trash...

dfdf

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[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

See, I just simply disagree. I enjoy the per-pixel sharpness playing the games on the SP model.

Heirren

Okay, you can disagree. But you're wrong about the SP looking sharper. Anyone with 2 eyes can plainly see the difference that the Gameboy Player makes.

I'm not wrong, I'm right. There's no arguing that per-pixel is the truest, sharpest way to view a game in its original form. If you are referring to the GCplayer enhancing the game visually, well that is a different story. Personally I feel that emulators that run filters on old games make them look worse.

For example:

THIS looks like trash...

dfdf

Bad link, you can't see the picture. But regardless...

At this point, I seriously have to question whether you even have a Gameboy Player. Like I've said many times, the difference is completely obvious. If you DO have one, go try the same game in both, then slap yourself in the head for putting your foot in your mouth. This shouldn't even be a discussion. I mean it's not like we're comparing the GBA & Gameboy Micro screen's here where it is arguable. We're talking about a HUGE difference. Bigger screen without distorting the picture any, a much brighter image than any Gameboy screen backlit or not, stereo sound coming from TV speakers, hell there's even enhancements you can put in the game. It's like going from a normal TV to an HDTV on your XBox 360.

And what do you mean it's original form?! It's not a rom or emulator, it's the actual cartridge being played on actual Nintendo hardware.

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You have to have done your homework to get good Game Cube/Wii games. Some people just are too lazy and arrogant to do that.
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There are a ton of great games on the Cube, and people who decided not to play them because they though the system was inferior just missed out on some wonderful games. That's all. It's too bad some folks closed themselves off to it. For whatever reason.

:)

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#82 magnax1
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I thought the GC was the best console of the first half of that gen, but then the support dropped off because of sales, and the PS2 started to get better since most third parties started to focus almost soley on that system. Even then the GC was probably the second best console of that gen, with the Xbox somewhat close behind it. There are a ton of under rated games on the GC, and it really isn't lacking in any genre that I can think of.

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I can understand your defence of Nintendo being unfairly judged software-wise. But saying that Sony's 128-bit (and beyond) consoles are downright inferior to the Gamecube is ludacris.

Obvious troll is troll.

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I'd agree with you that the GameCube was a great system, as were the DreamCast, PlayStation 2, and Xbox in the same generation.
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There are a ton of great games on the Cube, and people who decided not to play them because they though the system was inferior just missed out on some wonderful games. That's all. It's too bad some folks closed themselves off to it. For whatever reason.

:)

MonkeySpot
Well said...I must own over 20 Cube games
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One thing I never understood last gen was the GC bashers. When infact this console was and still is amazing. Lots of platformers, excellent rpgs and fighting games etc....plus the GC's better than the gimmick Wii. (fact) Lots of games were on par with Xbox games. (I'd know because I still own both of them, though the Xbox does offer better graphics at times)...it's durable. (I couldn't keep my 360 on all day or let it fall)...I'm no nintendo fanboy, but the Cube owned.

darkdude2k12



I already posted but thought I'd go back and respond to your first post.
I could take every single statement you made - every single opinion (not fact) and ask you how you can justify your praise of this system and can't understand why anyone would bash it while you did the exact same thing with the NES.

As I mentioned there, just because you may not like something does not give you any say in whether anyone else likes it and/or is wrong for enjoying "bad graphic'd games". Words like "better", "gimmick", "failure" and "owned" do not qualify as fact. Facts consist of things like number of systems sold, CPU speed, RAM speed, how many games were sold, how many were available, etc. Lastly, it sounds to me like you're a fanboy of the GameCube, of which the Wii is completely backward-compatible - minus a device called the GameBoy Player.

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Rouge Leader on the GameCube ahd the best grahpics of any game from the sixth generation. I mean just look at the first level! The GameCube has the best controller in video gaming and has a ton of fanastic games. It's my favorite Nintendo system.

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Rouge Leader on the GameCube ahd the best grahpics of any game from the sixth generation. I mean just look at the first level! The GameCube has the best controller in video gaming and has a ton of fanastic games. It's my favorite Nintendo system.

Manimal2000
Yeah, the Cube's controller had some kind of magic involved. My hands never sweated with that, even after intensive games like the quest mode in Soul Caliber II.
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Both Nintendo andsome certain gamers like multi console gamers they should have given the whole modem/LAM online gameplay a 2nd chance for the games like the Phantasy Star games and even Mario Kart Double Dash I think had online play for a short while.

Seems like Nintendo tends to turn into wusses and abandon every new gameplay feature especially the modem/LAN online gameplay mode and then go workon something else which was really unfair back then.

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Both Nintendo andsome certain gamers like multi console gamers they should have given the whole modem/LAM online gameplay a 2nd chance for the games like the Phantasy Star games and even Mario Kart Double Dash I think had online play for a short while.

Seems like Nintendo tends to turn into wusses and abandon every new gameplay feature especially the modem/LAN online gameplay mode and then go workon something else which was really unfair back then.

slamminjammin69

You do understand the vast difference between Japanese gaming culture and most of the rest of the world, right? That said, Nintendo didn't "ignore" online gaming, they simply didn't place much importance on it, until they could do something stable and positive with such a feature. And they still managed to sell a lot of cubes. Personally I love the system for not becoming an online gaming machine.

The cube focused on gaming in the same room, "old-school", as gaming was meant to be. It's pure, and it brings people together - At least it did with my circle. Games like "MarioKart", and "Metal Arms: Glitch in the System" were hubs for great nights of partying, trash-talking, and general good times. Online gaming has further isolated us, keeping us at home instead of gathering for a game night. All plugged in, alone while we play "together".

Now while I enjoy certain aspects of online, as I have friends all across America and Europe, it seems like a more hollow experience. It makes visiting with each other a bit easier/ cheaper than a flight or a 4hr phone call, but it's still me in my little room and them in theirs... It's not communal gaming. And it's a shame that we're losing that characteristic of our hobby due to "better" tech.

But the GameCube had lots and lots of great party games, as well as some of the most stand-out adventure, action, puzzle, (and all other) genres... It really had no weaknesses when it came to getting a room full of people into a state of riot. That's largely the reason why the Wii seemed like such a different console from the other two major offerings and it took off so well - It promoted getting together and laughing with friends at "Raving Rabbids TV", and bowling... By the end of last generation, we were beginning to get into our current state of dependance on online gaming. The Xbox and the PS2 had a lot of strong offerings ("HALO 2", "SOCOM 2", "Rainbow 6", "Splinter Cell") which were building the foundation of where those consoles are today -

When the PSN crashed, you'd have thought people had forgotten how to boot a Single Player game, or that they even existed... "Oh What Will I Do?", "My online pass for DCU!" and on, and on... It was astonishing to me that without their BLOPs and their "Assassin's Creed" multiplayer, there was suddenly nothing to be played. There was concern over trophies earned while the service was turned off, there was an outcry for DLC access in order to properly enjoy what had already cost $60...

During that time, I went back to my GameCube. I invited friends over for some all-night "MonkeyBall" competition... We shoved and cursed over games of "Metal Arms: glitch in the System"... I played "Eternal Darkness" and "Metroid Prime" again, and remembered why I had fallen in love with game consoles in the first place, both as a gathering party locus, and as an alone-adventure me-time device.

Yes, Xbox had better graphics, and you could play four-player. "HALO", duh. And yes, the PS2 had a much, MUCH larger library and it's a great console (and you could do four-player with one of those giant multi-tap things if you could find a game in that giant library which supported it AND it was fun to play)...

... But the GameCube was really the only console of that gen which was made with the idea of bringing people together, both as a design strength in the hardware and the library of games available which featured four-player integration. So for that alone, Nintendo should be respected if not commended, for holding back on it's involvement in the social blight which we face today.

:)

There's something to be said for gaming in the same room. A magic you will never find at the end of a headset & wifi connection.

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yeah I still love the old fashioned way of people coming over to your house for multiplayer fun with the Gamecube or Nintendo 64, but you're not listening.

It would have been nice if Nintendo and gamers would have given the whole modem and LAN online play for the Gamecube a chance instead of abandoning it for the next best thing like the Wii

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I think it's partly due to GameStop selling then for only $29.99. In a lot of people's eyes, when something sells for an incredibly low price then it must mean that it's crap; even if that isn't true like in the Gamecube's case. And now, we can add to that the fact that Wii's are backwards compatible so a lot of people see no use in keeping one. Not even considering collectibility, Gamcube's are worth keeping around IMO because of the Gameboy Player attachment that you can get for only $9.99 at GameStop; it is BY FAR the best way to play Game Boy, GBC, & GBA games. The games look better than they ever did on any Game Boy/GBA model.

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It was popular to hate it because of its design and slightly unorthodox controller, and the hive mind just designated it as something that "sucked" despite not ever really looking at the games that were on it. Honestly, my only real problem with the GC from a design perspective was Nintendo releasing such tiny memory cards for a long time. MAILER_DAEMON

Yeah, this sums it up pretty well. The controller, and the console especially with the handle made it the subject of a lot of ridicule. A lot of the bashing just comes from ignorance; too much focus on the look of the hardware rather than what you can play on it.

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[QUOTE="Manimal2000"]

Rouge Leader on the GameCube ahd the best grahpics of any game from the sixth generation. I mean just look at the first level! The GameCube has the best controller in video gaming and has a ton of fanastic games. It's my favorite Nintendo system.

AirGuitarist87
Yeah, the Cube's controller had some kind of magic involved. My hands never sweated with that, even after intensive games like the quest mode in Soul Caliber II.

You must not sweat a lot!
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Lol I agree with the first post. I've had my GC For years, I even dropped it off of the top shelf of a closet and it still worked! 2 years later though and I have to replace the lid swith on the inside that tells it that the lid is closed.

I have an extra though :D

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I've always wanted a GC, it has lots of titles I want to play.Dudersaper
Same here,after im done with getting through the ps2 titles i missed (recently bought a slim ps2) i will get a wii and purchase all the great exclusive gamecube games i missed out on. Legend of zelda wind waker being the no.1 title i want to play on that machine,also luigi's mansion and mario sunshine and twin snakes. However looking on ebay for secondhand prices of those games they aren't cheap,i guess nintendo didn't sell awhole lot of gamecube games and there now seen as rare and are more expensive :(
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[QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I've always wanted a GC, it has lots of titles I want to play.blacktorn
Same here,after im done with getting through the ps2 titles i missed (recently bought a slim ps2) i will get a wii and purchase all the great exclusive gamecube games i missed out on. Legend of zelda wind waker being the no.1 title i want to play on that machine,also luigi's mansion and mario sunshine and twin snakes. However looking on ebay for secondhand prices of those games they aren't cheap,i guess nintendo didn't sell awhole lot of gamecube games and there now seen as rare and are more expensive :(

You're aware the GC BC Wii is being phased out, right? The new version doesn't play GC games--it is why I shelled out for a wii a few months back.

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#98 blacktorn
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[QUOTE="blacktorn"][QUOTE="Dudersaper"]I've always wanted a GC, it has lots of titles I want to play.Heirren

Same here,after im done with getting through the ps2 titles i missed (recently bought a slim ps2) i will get a wii and purchase all the great exclusive gamecube games i missed out on. Legend of zelda wind waker being the no.1 title i want to play on that machine,also luigi's mansion and mario sunshine and twin snakes. However looking on ebay for secondhand prices of those games they aren't cheap,i guess nintendo didn't sell awhole lot of gamecube games and there now seen as rare and are more expensive :(

You're aware the GC BC Wii is being phased out, right? The new version doesn't play GC games--it is why I shelled out for a wii a few months back.

But Nintendo is continuing to sell the old wii with the gamecube ports along side the new 'slim' wii,it won't be hard to find the old gamecube compatible wii for quite some time put it that way
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#99 godzillavskong
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The Gamecube was a very underrated console and performed wonderfully during it's time. Those Resident Evil games are some of the best games ever released in that series. Heck, they are some of my favorite games period! I'm actually going back through them currently, on the Wii though, mainly because I have the component cables on the Wii, and can get a little bit better resolution. Those component cables for the Cube are amazingly expensive!! I seen them on EBay and Amazon for over $100 ! Gamecube is a good console and if you consider yourself a gamer who just enjoys good games, then you have to have one, or get one. It may not have had the most 3rd party support but it did get some really good first party titles and a few stellar 3rd party ones too.

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#100 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="blacktorn"] Same here,after im done with getting through the ps2 titles i missed (recently bought a slim ps2) i will get a wii and purchase all the great exclusive gamecube games i missed out on. Legend of zelda wind waker being the no.1 title i want to play on that machine,also luigi's mansion and mario sunshine and twin snakes. However looking on ebay for secondhand prices of those games they aren't cheap,i guess nintendo didn't sell awhole lot of gamecube games and there now seen as rare and are more expensive :(blacktorn

You're aware the GC BC Wii is being phased out, right? The new version doesn't play GC games--it is why I shelled out for a wii a few months back.

But Nintendo is continuing to sell the old wii with the gamecube ports along side the new 'slim' wii,it won't be hard to find the old gamecube compatible wii for quite some time put it that way

Actually they are in shorter supply. Places like Amazon no longer carry them.