Gamecube bashers

Eh - Get a Wii, you need a Klassic Controller, it just becomes a big hassle... I'd rather spend $20, get a real 'cube, and party... Ain' Nothing like a Wavebird Wireless.

:D

I'm so glad I never lost love for the little black box and sold it off (I couldn't get a purple one, black was the only choice when I got mine back in the day). It is one of the most fun consoles to re-visit.

Eh - Get a Wii, you need a Klassic Controller, it just becomes a big hassle... I'd rather spend $20, get a real 'cube, and party... Ain' Nothing like a Wavebird Wireless.

:D

I'm so glad I never lost love for the little black box and sold it off (I couldn't get a purple one, black was the only choice when I got mine back in the day). It is one of the most fun consoles to re-visit.

MonkeySpot

You can use Gamecube controllers on the Wii.

Gamecube, the system of remakes, rehashes and ports :P

Gamecube, the system of remakes, rehashes and ports :P

Domino_slayer

Internet, the system of ignorance, misinformation, and opinion :P

See? We're BOTH correct!

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

Eh - Get a Wii, you need a Klassic Controller, it just becomes a big hassle... I'd rather spend $20, get a real 'cube, and party... Ain' Nothing like a Wavebird Wireless.

:D

I'm so glad I never lost love for the little black box and sold it off (I couldn't get a purple one, black was the only choice when I got mine back in the day). It is one of the most fun consoles to re-visit.

Emerald_Warrior

You can use Gamecube controllers on the Wii.

Internet, the system of ignorance, misinformation, and opinion :PMonkeySpot

I mean jesus, someone was even trying to make out the GBA player had perfect video quality, funnily enough I was playing a ton of Mega Man Zero 2 on GBA player just a few days ago and all I could think was "god damn this looks blurry as hell, I guess thats the price you pay for scaling the graphics so large"

Those games all look significantly better on GBA SP or a DS, and the DS' D-Pad is significantly better than that ridiculously tiny Gamecube D-Pad too, all the GBA player has going for it is the increase in size of the picture, that's it, the quality of the picture is worse (not only is it blurrier diue to scaling, it also has a problem with motion), and the controls are worse.

It's a great system. The only complaints I ever hear (outside of fanboy jargon) is that the discs couldn't handle the same amount of memory as normal DVDs and they often stopped working due to the laser becoming defocused. This happened to mine and my cousins. Besides the few technical issues, I LOVED this console. Even the mast cutesy, shallow, and minimal goal oriented game I can think of (Animal Crossing) had me addicted for hours at a time.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]

Eh - Get a Wii, you need a Klassic Controller, it just becomes a big hassle... I'd rather spend $20, get a real 'cube, and party... Ain' Nothing like a Wavebird Wireless.

:D

I'm so glad I never lost love for the little black box and sold it off (I couldn't get a purple one, black was the only choice when I got mine back in the day). It is one of the most fun consoles to re-visit.

Eikichi-Onizuka

You can use Gamecube controllers on the Wii.

[QUOTE="AirGuitarist87"][QUOTE="Manimal2000"]

Rouge Leader on the GameCube ahd the best grahpics of any game from the sixth generation. I mean just look at the first level! The GameCube has the best controller in video gaming and has a ton of fanastic games. It's my favorite Nintendo system.

Los9090

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]Internet, the system of ignorance, misinformation, and opinion :PDomino_slayer

I mean jesus, someone was even trying to make out the GBA player had perfect video quality, funnily enough I was playing a ton of Mega Man Zero 2 on GBA player just a few days ago and all I could think was "god damn this looks blurry as hell, I guess thats the price you pay for scaling the graphics so large"

Those games all look significantly better on GBA SP or a DS, and the DS' D-Pad is significantly better than that ridiculously tiny Gamecube D-Pad too, all the GBA player has going for it is the increase in size of the picture, that's it, the quality of the picture is worse (not only is it blurrier diue to scaling, it also has a problem with motion), and the controls are worse.

1. DO NOT call me ignorant. I can guarantee you I am not ignorant on the subject. I own plenty of Gameboy games, I own a Gameboy Advance SP as well as a GB Color, Super Gameboy, and original Game Boy, and I own a Gamecube with a Gameboy Player. So I can personally attest to each and every way to play a Game Boy game that is available out there. I'm not just some fanboy watching YouTube videos and claiming to be an expert on it.

2. I still stand by what I said about the Gameboy Player and anyone that has actually seen it in action would have to be absolutely blind to not see the differences. It is one of the main reasons I tell people that it's worth hanging onto your Gamecube for. The screen is larger (and doesn't distort the graphics like you said, that's just wrong, go play a Gameboy game on an emulator, that's some terribly distorted and stretched graphics), the screen is much brighter even in comparison to the backlit SP, the colors are more vivid, details stand-out that wouldn't stand-out on a Gameboy (of any model), there's stereo sound (if you have a stereo TV) vs. the single-speaker of the Gameboy, and you can even add enhancements to your Gameboy games. It is especially obvious when using Gameboy Color and Game Boy Original carts.

3. The controller on the actual GBA-SP vs. the Gamecube controller is definetly a matter of opinion. I would definetly prefer an actual controller to the cramped controls of a handheld. And you don't have to use the D-Pad, you can use the thumbstick as well. But if you owned a Hori Gamecube controller that wouldn't be a problem anyways, that controller rocks for old-school type games.

well, Ive never actually played on the Gameboy player, but I did play on the Super Gameboy, and it didn't look that bad, but maybe its different on the Gameboy player for all I know.

[QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]

[QUOTE="MonkeySpot"]Internet, the system of ignorance, misinformation, and opinion :PEmerald_Warrior

I mean jesus, someone was even trying to make out the GBA player had perfect video quality, funnily enough I was playing a ton of Mega Man Zero 2 on GBA player just a few days ago and all I could think was "god damn this looks blurry as hell, I guess thats the price you pay for scaling the graphics so large"

Those games all look significantly better on GBA SP or a DS, and the DS' D-Pad is significantly better than that ridiculously tiny Gamecube D-Pad too, all the GBA player has going for it is the increase in size of the picture, that's it, the quality of the picture is worse (not only is it blurrier diue to scaling, it also has a problem with motion), and the controls are worse.

2. I still stand by what I said about the Gameboy Player and anyone that has actually seen it in action would have to be absolutely blind to not see the differences. It is one of the main reasons I tell people that it's worth hanging onto your Gamecube for. The screen is larger (and doesn't distort the graphics like you said, that's just wrong, go play a Gameboy game on an emulator, that's some terribly distorted and stretched graphics), the screen is much brighter even in comparison to the backlit SP, the colors are more vivid, details stand-out that wouldn't stand-out on a Gameboy (of any model), there's stereo sound (if you have a stereo TV) vs. the single-speaker of the Gameboy, and you can even add enhancements to your Gameboy games. It is especially obvious when using Gameboy Color and Game Boy Original carts.

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]Yep, as this thread proves without a doubt LOL

I mean jesus, someone was even trying to make out the GBA player had perfect video quality, funnily enough I was playing a ton of Mega Man Zero 2 on GBA player just a few days ago and all I could think was "god damn this looks blurry as hell, I guess thats the price you pay for scaling the graphics so large"

Those games all look significantly better on GBA SP or a DS, and the DS' D-Pad is significantly better than that ridiculously tiny Gamecube D-Pad too, all the GBA player has going for it is the increase in size of the picture, that's it, the quality of the picture is worse (not only is it blurrier diue to scaling, it also has a problem with motion), and the controls are worse.

Heirren

2. I still stand by what I said about the Gameboy Player and anyone that has actually seen it in action would have to be absolutely blind to not see the differences. It is one of the main reasons I tell people that it's worth hanging onto your Gamecube for. The screen is larger (and doesn't distort the graphics like you said, that's just wrong, go play a Gameboy game on an emulator, that's some terribly distorted and stretched graphics), the screen is much brighter even in comparison to the backlit SP, the colors are more vivid, details stand-out that wouldn't stand-out on a Gameboy (of any model), there's stereo sound (if you have a stereo TV) vs. the single-speaker of the Gameboy, and you can even add enhancements to your Gameboy games. It is especially obvious when using Gameboy Color and Game Boy Original carts.

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

What emulator? It's actual Gameboy carts being played on actualNintendo hardware.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

2. I still stand by what I said about the Gameboy Player and anyone that has actually seen it in action would have to be absolutely blind to not see the differences. It is one of the main reasons I tell people that it's worth hanging onto your Gamecube for. The screen is larger (and doesn't distort the graphics like you said, that's just wrong, go play a Gameboy game on an emulator, that's some terribly distorted and stretched graphics), the screen is much brighter even in comparison to the backlit SP, the colors are more vivid, details stand-out that wouldn't stand-out on a Gameboy (of any model), there's stereo sound (if you have a stereo TV) vs. the single-speaker of the Gameboy, and you can even add enhancements to your Gameboy games. It is especially obvious when using Gameboy Color and Game Boy Original carts.

Emerald_Warrior

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

What emulator? It's actual Gameboy carts being played on actualNintendo hardware.

I didn't say emulator. I said "emulator look," as in, there is post processing done to the image so that it looks more presentable on a larger screen.

well, Ive never actually played on the Gameboy player, but I did play on the Super Gameboy, and it didn't look that bad, but maybe its different on the Gameboy player for all I know.Darkman2007

Gameboy Player doesn't look bad, I just think saying it has better picture quality than an actual GBA or DS is a bit much.

I'd say through RGB the picture quality of GBA games look slightly worse than composite when using the Gameboy Player (think N64 composite), motion looks worse, and some games have problems with transparencies.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

Heirren

What emulator? It's actual Gameboy carts being played on actualNintendo hardware.

I didn't say emulator. I said "emulator look," as in, there is post processing done to the image so that it looks more presentable on a larger screen.

Uhhh, okay. But that's has nothing to do with an emulator or emulation.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

What emulator? It's actual Gameboy carts being played on actualNintendo hardware.

Emerald_Warrior

I didn't say emulator. I said "emulator look," as in, there is post processing done to the image so that it looks more presentable on a larger screen.

Uhhh, okay. But that's has nothing to do with an emulator or emulation.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]Yep, as this thread proves without a doubt LOL

I mean jesus, someone was even trying to make out the GBA player had perfect video quality, funnily enough I was playing a ton of Mega Man Zero 2 on GBA player just a few days ago and all I could think was "god damn this looks blurry as hell, I guess thats the price you pay for scaling the graphics so large"

Those games all look significantly better on GBA SP or a DS, and the DS' D-Pad is significantly better than that ridiculously tiny Gamecube D-Pad too, all the GBA player has going for it is the increase in size of the picture, that's it, the quality of the picture is worse (not only is it blurrier diue to scaling, it also has a problem with motion), and the controls are worse.

Heirren

2. I still stand by what I said about the Gameboy Player and anyone that has actually seen it in action would have to be absolutely blind to not see the differences. It is one of the main reasons I tell people that it's worth hanging onto your Gamecube for. The screen is larger (and doesn't distort the graphics like you said, that's just wrong, go play a Gameboy game on an emulator, that's some terribly distorted and stretched graphics), the screen is much brighter even in comparison to the backlit SP, the colors are more vivid, details stand-out that wouldn't stand-out on a Gameboy (of any model), there's stereo sound (if you have a stereo TV) vs. the single-speaker of the Gameboy, and you can even add enhancements to your Gameboy games. It is especially obvious when using Gameboy Color and Game Boy Original carts.

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

lol, not I'm not wrong. Like I said you can especially see the detail in the Gameboy and GBC games. I'll point to Metroid II: The Return of Samus in particular. There are parts of the background image that completely stand-out that you don't even notice when playing on a Gameboy.

The DS screen, I would disagree being the best even when it comes to Gameboys. Now I don't own a DSi or a DSXL, so I can't comment on those really. I own an original Nintendo DS. I found that when in sunlight, the original DS screen is fairly hard to see, somehow the sunlight drowns out the screen or something, but it is excellent for playing in the dark.However the GBA-SP plays fine in both the dark and in the sunlight.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

2. I still stand by what I said about the Gameboy Player and anyone that has actually seen it in action would have to be absolutely blind to not see the differences. It is one of the main reasons I tell people that it's worth hanging onto your Gamecube for. The screen is larger (and doesn't distort the graphics like you said, that's just wrong, go play a Gameboy game on an emulator, that's some terribly distorted and stretched graphics), the screen is much brighter even in comparison to the backlit SP, the colors are more vivid, details stand-out that wouldn't stand-out on a Gameboy (of any model), there's stereo sound (if you have a stereo TV) vs. the single-speaker of the Gameboy, and you can even add enhancements to your Gameboy games. It is especially obvious when using Gameboy Color and Game Boy Original carts.

Emerald_Warrior

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

lol, not I'm not wrong. Like I said you can especially see the detail in the Gameboy and GBC games. I'll point to Metroid II: The Return of Samus in particular. There are parts of the background image that completely stand-out that you don't even notice when playing on a Gameboy.

The DS screen, I would disagree being the best even when it comes to Gameboys. Now I don't own a DSi or a DSXL, so I can't comment on those really. I own an original Nintendo DS. I found that when in sunlight, the original DS screen is fairly hard to see, somehow the sunlight drowns out the screen or something, but it is excellent for playing in the dark.However the GBA-SP plays fine in both the dark and in the sunlight.

ALL the pixels are displayed on a GBA screen. The GBP DOES NOT CREATE DETAIL. I'm sorry, but you are either wrong, or blind.

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

There's surely some post processing done with the gameboy player. The games are not being displayed in their native resolution, which is the sharpest way to view the respected material. Details DO NOT just appear because of a larger screen. I'm sorry, but you are just wrong here. The headphone jack supplies stereo sound. As I said before, I don't care for the shapened "emulator" look with all the HQ effects. I forgot about the DSlite--that is probably the best way to play gba games.

Heirren

lol, not I'm not wrong. Like I said you can especially see the detail in the Gameboy and GBC games. I'll point to Metroid II: The Return of Samus in particular. There are parts of the background image that completely stand-out that you don't even notice when playing on a Gameboy.

The DS screen, I would disagree being the best even when it comes to Gameboys. Now I don't own a DSi or a DSXL, so I can't comment on those really. I own an original Nintendo DS. I found that when in sunlight, the original DS screen is fairly hard to see, somehow the sunlight drowns out the screen or something, but it is excellent for playing in the dark.However the GBA-SP plays fine in both the dark and in the sunlight.

ALL the pixels are displayed on a GBA screen. The GBP DOES NOT CREATE DETAIL. I'm sorry, but you are either wrong, or blind.

I didn't say it "created" detail, I said it makes little details stand-out that are hard to see on the actual Gameboy. And it most definetly does. I've already pointed out Metroid II: The Return of Samus's background. Another is Castlevania II: Belmont's Revenge where the eyeballs are rolling at you, you can actually see the veins on the eyeball quite clearly when playing on the Gameboy Player.

And just like I questioned you having a Gameboy Player earlier, I have to question it again if you're comparing it to an emulator. Have you seen an emulator play a Gameboy game? Now THAT'S some distorted, stretched graphics. Emulators make Gameboy (and Neo-Geo Pocket) games looks horrendous.

[QUOTE="Heirren"]

[QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

lol, not I'm not wrong. Like I said you can especially see the detail in the Gameboy and GBC games. I'll point to Metroid II: The Return of Samus in particular. There are parts of the background image that completely stand-out that you don't even notice when playing on a Gameboy.

The DS screen, I would disagree being the best even when it comes to Gameboys. Now I don't own a DSi or a DSXL, so I can't comment on those really. I own an original Nintendo DS. I found that when in sunlight, the original DS screen is fairly hard to see, somehow the sunlight drowns out the screen or something, but it is excellent for playing in the dark.However the GBA-SP plays fine in both the dark and in the sunlight.

Emerald_Warrior

ALL the pixels are displayed on a GBA screen. The GBP DOES NOT CREATE DETAIL. I'm sorry, but you are either wrong, or blind.

I didn't say it "created" detail, I said it makes little details stand-out that are hard to see on the actual Gameboy. And it most definetly does. I've already pointed out Metroid II: The Return of Samus's background. Another is Castlevania II: Belmont's Revenge where the eyeballs are rolling at you, you can actually see the veins on the eyeball quite clearly when playing on the Gameboy Player.

And just like I questioned you having a Gameboy Player earlier, I have to question it again if you're comparing it to an emulator. Have you seen an emulator play a Gameboy game? Now THAT'S some distorted, stretched graphics. Emulators make Gameboy (and Neo-Geo Pocket) games looks horrendous.

Actually pixel density has a greater effect in giving something more detail, which is why I think playing the gba games in native res on the dslite gives the best image. All the examples you are giving me are coming from your eyes. I have zero problem seeing the full image on either the gba or dslite.

And to answer your question, I do not own a gameboy player--I do not even have my gamecube anymore after I bought a wii. However, I have used it[gbp] enough to have an opinion on the image quality. It is VERY much like that of an emulator in that, like I said before, adds some post processing effects to the image. Also, emulators don't really distort gameboy games. There are plenty of options to fix the image the way you like.

We're also talking about fixed pixel displays vs. crts, or possibly an hdset through component. Imo, less scaling the better. With the dslite and gba you get a per-pixel view of the game. With a gamecube to a crt through component you are going to get some color bleed, scanlines, and some slight warping. And with the gamecube hooked up to an hd set through component you will have the scaling of the gbp PLUS the tv scaling the image to either 1280x720 or 1920x1080. Either way the image is being fiddled with.

plus the GC's better than the gimmick Wii. (fact)

darkdude2k12

Stopped reading there. I like the Gamecube, but the Wii is definitely better.

You have to have done your homework to get good Game Cube/Wii games. Some people just are too lazy and arrogant to do that.Los9090

So me and Heirren are never gonna come to an agreement on this. I think he's absolutely wrong, and he's not gonna back down on his position. So, you can believe me (who actually owns the Gameboy Player) and use this wonderful add-on that's a measly $10 at Gamestop, and play your Gameboy collection on your T.V. with a big bright screen and stereo sound (without using headphones). Or you can believe Heirren who thinks the add-on is crap and a waste of $10. I think most Gamecube owners will find that $10 invested in a Gameboy Player is $10 well spent, though, and even if you do end up agreeing with Heirren, your only down $10. That's cheaper than most of the good games on the system.

Or you can believe Heirren who thinks the add-on is crap and a waste of $10.

Emerald_Warrior

Please show me where I said it was crap and a waste of $10. You came out and said it was the absolute best way to play gameboy/gba games, and I disagreed. I simply said that the game design of gb/gba caters more to a small screen and that the sp and dslite are the best way to view them. I never said the gbp was crap--I just don't care for the emulator like image it outputs.

[QUOTE="Los9090"]You have to have done your homework to get good Game Cube/Wii games. Some people just are too lazy and arrogant to do that.nintendoboy16

Gamecube is still better than the Wii. At least we gamecube players dont have to flail our damn arms around.

Also just wondering. does anyone still have their Gamecube modem attachment thingies? And do you still try to see if the gamecube modem online play is still active with a few players or not?

So me and Heirren are never gonna come to an agreement on this. I think he's absolutely wrong, and he's not gonna back down on his position. So, you can believe me (who actually owns the Gameboy Player) and use this wonderful add-on that's a measly $10 at Gamestop, and play your Gameboy collection on your T.V. with a big bright screen and stereo sound (without using headphones). Or you can believe Heirren who thinks the add-on is crap and a waste of $10. I think most Gamecube owners will find that $10 invested in a Gameboy Player is $10 well spent, though, and even if you do end up agreeing with Heirren, your only down $10. That's cheaper than most of the good games on the system.

Emerald_Warrior

I definitely agree that the gameboy player looks quite a bit better then the GBA or GBA SP. Without question the best way to play gameboy games IMO.

[QUOTE="Eikichi-Onizuka"][QUOTE="Emerald_Warrior"]

You can use Gamecube controllers on the Wii.

godzillavskong