It begins. Resident Evil 5 targeted as a racist game.

Only black people find away to make things racist still. No white people said anything about GTA San Andreas when it was a black guy going around killing everyone.Shacks210

Not true! Google before you make untrue statments! :roll:

hispanics

http://www.lulac.org/advocacy/press/2003/kingpin.htmlhttp://www.lulac.org/advocacy/press/2003/kingpin.html

Italians

http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/001948.html

AngloAmericans

http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_board/8/messages/1245.html

I think Capcom made a genious decision. They're getting so much free publicity!AbusementPark

i agree, they're gonna make so much $$$:P

Seriously speaking...if these guys aren't willing to help others (people who think RE4 is racist for having people "infected" who happen to be Spaniards)...why should they want help for themselves?

They should learn of the game's plot before coming to conclusions...to me, it gives them a persona of imbecilism.

No offense to those fellows, but really....what about all of the lighter-skinned people-turned zombies in all of the other games beforehand.

If cases are to be made, credentials need to be adequete. I'm an American of African and American descent (for the record), so this is jus...."looking for cracks in a diamond."

This is the stupidest thing I've ever heard in my life. And the sad thing is, when I saw the trailer at E3 a few weeks ago, when it was over I immediately said to myself that black people are going to have a problem with this game. You don't see white people complain in Dawn Of The Dead when Ving Rhames is shooting white zombies. But here comes Reverend Jesse Jackson and company whining about this game. Spike Lee and friends need to shut the hell up and stop whining about racism all the time, I'm sick of hearing it. This isn't the 1800's in the south, there are no slaves, despite what people want to think, everyone is equal. This racism crap is getting old now.-MlKE-

Agree with you 100%

[QUOTE="trifecta_basic"][QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"]

I think it's poor taste on Capcom's part, and there is a difference between this setting and Spain or Dead Rising. You got thousands of Africans being slaughtered in Darfur/the rest of the country daily with little to nothing being done to stop it. Africa is just one of those sensitive spots, much like Iraq(which would be another area that should not be used in games) and having a form of media that is designed to be fun set there just FURTHER trivilizes the real, daily hardships Africans that are never reported. Bottom line it's offensive and Capcom deserves whatever flack they get, legitimate or not.

Moridin18

I think you might be a bigot because you care about the skin color of the man doing the killing and the skin color of zombies in a video game. A company does not deserve to be called a racist because of idiots who don't know that this game is not even set in Africa.(It;s suppose to be in the Cairabean Hati) You don't seem to be offended at all the WW2 games which one could argue that trivilizes the biggest loss of life in the History of Man. But millions of dead russian, east europeans, gypsies and Jews seems to have been cool with you. tha is if you actuall care about people and not just sterotype the game because you see a "evil white man that represents all the white devils from the hsitory of the world" killing the poor Black zombies.

again the game not set in AFrica, so now what you are talking about before yougo on a prescriptedPC rant. It mightbe to much for you to look past you assumtions and preconcieved notions.

When you learn to respond by not pulling statements I've never made from your rear I'll get back to you.

Be a man. You talk about pullin stuff out and you talk about Africa being in this game when it is not set their. You created stuff in thatnarrow mind of yours. You connect this game to Darfur.(a white man shooting zombies in the caribeen(Hati think) has nothing to do with Arabic tribesmen killling blacks in africa. Nothing.

I made a broad geralization about your statement just like you have about this situation, but you don't even no where the game is set and make assumptions about it. A attack a compnay for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual facts.

Bottom line is that you are selectively offended(show me where you have shown concern about WW2 games trivilizing the millions that died in the war. Or did you say one thing about Gun and the Native Americans in it? I bet you never have because you just want to be PC and not actually care about people or view blacks as better then others since only they should never be showed as villians in games.) and being racist or not you deserve whatever flack you get legitimate or not.

Wherehave I said you said something which you did not? I only questioned your selective offenedness of the situtation and your motivation to ignore all the other games in which one could be offended. (who is pulling what out of what know?)

Be a man and see stuff for what it is and don't make connections to things that have nothing to do with one another.

You have no problems seeing what is not their but can't handle it when someone else does it(which i did not I only questioned the reasoning behind the mindless rant). Even when they base it on something and you create it in your head. Maybe you will make something up new this time.

The game is heavily based on Africa, that is very obvious from the trailer, regardless if it's "officially" set there. Don't tell me to be a man and then turn around and get into a semantics issue.

Arabic tribesman is not the only element in the Darfur conflict, it's really hard to follow you when you insist on making up bull.

The majority of war games pay tribute to the fallen and are in good taste, especially WW2 games. Try actually playing Company of Heroes or Call of Duty before making anymore sweeping, ignorant generations. However, I agree it can be very offensive to veterans, who know that the game doesn't depict what REALLY happened. I even agreed with this strongly in a thread where some veterans spoke out against a MOH game. But I think war games have there place just like war movies do and I think they will improve as technology dictates...if they haven't already.

The bottom line, it looks like a African village with African people...given the slaughter that is going on in that country I think it is in poor taste for Capcom to set there, just like I think it would be in poor taste to set it in a look-a-like Iraq. It doesn't rub me right that the hours I spend playing that game will amount to thousands of people being killed in a very similar setting...and if more people were aware of the scale of what is going on there they'd feel alike. It's not just Darfur, it's widespread anarchy over the entire continent since I remember, until things change in Africa I'd object to this type of game being set there.

"The Black people are supposed to be zombies and the white man's job is to destroy them"

So let me get this straight...If I'm surrounded by zombies that are a different race from mine, I'm to let them kill me because I'd be racist if I shot them.

And this adds up...how?

[QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"][QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"]

I think it's poor taste on Capcom's part, and there is a difference between this setting and Spain or Dead Rising. You got thousands of Africans being slaughtered in Darfur/the rest of the country daily with little to nothing being done to stop it. Africa is just one of those sensitive spots, much like Iraq(which would be another area that should not be used in games) and having a form of media that is designed to be fun set there just FURTHER trivilizes the real, daily hardships Africans that are never reported. Bottom line it's offensive and Capcom deserves whatever flack they get, legitimate or not.

trifecta_basic

I think you might be a bigot because you care about the skin color of the man doing the killing and the skin color of zombies in a video game. A company does not deserve to be called a racist because of idiots who don't know that this game is not even set in Africa.(It;s suppose to be in the Cairabean Hati) You don't seem to be offended at all the WW2 games which one could argue that trivilizes the biggest loss of life in the History of Man. But millions of dead russian, east europeans, gypsies and Jews seems to have been cool with you. tha is if you actuall care about people and not just sterotype the game because you see a "evil white man that represents all the white devils from the hsitory of the world" killing the poor Black zombies.

again the game not set in AFrica, so now what you are talking about before yougo on a prescriptedPC rant. It mightbe to much for you to look past you assumtions and preconcieved notions.

When you learn to respond by not pulling statements I've never made from your rear I'll get back to you.

Be a man. You talk about pullin stuff out and you talk about Africa being in this game when it is not set their. You created stuff in thatnarrow mind of yours. You connect this game to Darfur.(a white man shooting zombies in the caribeen(Hati think) has nothing to do with Arabic tribesmen killling blacks in africa. Nothing.

I made a broad geralization about your statement just like you have about this situation, but you don't even no where the game is set and make assumptions about it. A attack a compnay for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual facts.

Bottom line is that you are selectively offended(show me where you have shown concern about WW2 games trivilizing the millions that died in the war. Or did you say one thing about Gun and the Native Americans in it? I bet you never have because you just want to be PC and not actually care about people or view blacks as better then others since only they should never be showed as villians in games.) and being racist or not you deserve whatever flack you get legitimate or not.

Wherehave I said you said something which you did not? I only questioned your selective offenedness of the situtation and your motivation to ignore all the other games in which one could be offended. (who is pulling what out of what know?)

Be a man and see stuff for what it is and don't make connections to things that have nothing to do with one another.

You have no problems seeing what is not their but can't handle it when someone else does it(which i did not I only questioned the reasoning behind the mindless rant). Even when they base it on something and you create it in your head. Maybe you will make something up new this time.

The game is heavily based on Africa, that is very obvious from the trailer, regardless if it's "officially" set there. Don't tell me to be a man and then turn around and get into a semantics issue.

Arabic tribesman is not the only element in the Darfur conflict, it's really hard to follow you when you insist on making up bull.

The majority of war games pay tribute to the fallen and are in good taste, especially WW2 games. Try actually playing Company of Heroes or Call of Duty before making anymore sweeping, ignorant generations. However, I agree it can be very offensive to veterans, who know that the game doesn't depict what REALLY happened. I even agreed with this strongly in a thread where some veterans spoke out against a MOH game. But I think war games have there place just like war movies do and I think they will improve as technology dictates...if they haven't already.

The bottom line, it looks like a African village with African people...given the slaughter that is going on in that country I think it is in poor taste for Capcom to set there, just like I think it would be in poor taste to set it in a look-a-like Iraq. It doesn't rub me right that the hours I spend playing that game will amount to thousands of people being killed in a very similar setting...and if more people were aware of the scale of what is going on there they'd feel alike. It's not just Darfur, it's widespread anarchy over the entire continent since I remember, until things change in Africa I'd object to this type of game being set there.

Oh come on, big deal. It's set in africa. it's not hurting anyone because IT'S VIDEO GAME! You are not hurting real people. You are overeacting to this for no reason and trying to find a problem were there isn't one. All this crap is just for publicity and none of these complainers will change capcom's decisions for taking this game into this particular location. All i know is, i'll be playing an amazing game come 2009

i knew after watching the RE5 trailer that this was going to come up sooner or later. it was bound to. but regardless, I don't see any problem with the game or the trailer. I think people are getting a bit too wrapped up on it. the predictions of "what will happen" when the game is released is overblown. And besides, with illegal immigration becoming a hot topic in America, no one went crazy when you blew away Spanish-talking zombies in RE4.

[QUOTE="trifecta_basic"][QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"][QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"]

I think it's poor taste on Capcom's part, and there is a difference between this setting and Spain or Dead Rising. You got thousands of Africans being slaughtered in Darfur/the rest of the country daily with little to nothing being done to stop it. Africa is just one of those sensitive spots, much like Iraq(which would be another area that should not be used in games) and having a form of media that is designed to be fun set there just FURTHER trivilizes the real, daily hardships Africans that are never reported. Bottom line it's offensive and Capcom deserves whatever flack they get, legitimate or not.

Sonick54

I think you might be a bigot because you care about the skin color of the man doing the killing and the skin color of zombies in a video game. A company does not deserve to be called a racist because of idiots who don't know that this game is not even set in Africa.(It;s suppose to be in the Cairabean Hati) You don't seem to be offended at all the WW2 games which one could argue that trivilizes the biggest loss of life in the History of Man. But millions of dead russian, east europeans, gypsies and Jews seems to have been cool with you. tha is if you actuall care about people and not just sterotype the game because you see a "evil white man that represents all the white devils from the hsitory of the world" killing the poor Black zombies.

again the game not set in AFrica, so now what you are talking about before yougo on a prescriptedPC rant. It mightbe to much for you to look past you assumtions and preconcieved notions.

When you learn to respond by not pulling statements I've never made from your rear I'll get back to you.

Be a man. You talk about pullin stuff out and you talk about Africa being in this game when it is not set their. You created stuff in thatnarrow mind of yours. You connect this game to Darfur.(a white man shooting zombies in the caribeen(Hati think) has nothing to do with Arabic tribesmen killling blacks in africa. Nothing.

I made a broad geralization about your statement just like you have about this situation, but you don't even no where the game is set and make assumptions about it. A attack a compnay for reasons that have nothing to do with the actual facts.

Bottom line is that you are selectively offended(show me where you have shown concern about WW2 games trivilizing the millions that died in the war. Or did you say one thing about Gun and the Native Americans in it? I bet you never have because you just want to be PC and not actually care about people or view blacks as better then others since only they should never be showed as villians in games.) and being racist or not you deserve whatever flack you get legitimate or not.

Wherehave I said you said something which you did not? I only questioned your selective offenedness of the situtation and your motivation to ignore all the other games in which one could be offended. (who is pulling what out of what know?)

Be a man and see stuff for what it is and don't make connections to things that have nothing to do with one another.

You have no problems seeing what is not their but can't handle it when someone else does it(which i did not I only questioned the reasoning behind the mindless rant). Even when they base it on something and you create it in your head. Maybe you will make something up new this time.

The game is heavily based on Africa, that is very obvious from the trailer, regardless if it's "officially" set there. Don't tell me to be a man and then turn around and get into a semantics issue.

Arabic tribesman is not the only element in the Darfur conflict, it's really hard to follow you when you insist on making up bull.

The majority of war games pay tribute to the fallen and are in good taste, especially WW2 games. Try actually playing Company of Heroes or Call of Duty before making anymore sweeping, ignorant generations. However, I agree it can be very offensive to veterans, who know that the game doesn't depict what REALLY happened. I even agreed with this strongly in a thread where some veterans spoke out against a MOH game. But I think war games have there place just like war movies do and I think they will improve as technology dictates...if they haven't already.

The bottom line, it looks like a African village with African people...given the slaughter that is going on in that country I think it is in poor taste for Capcom to set there, just like I think it would be in poor taste to set it in a look-a-like Iraq. It doesn't rub me right that the hours I spend playing that game will amount to thousands of people being killed in a very similar setting...and if more people were aware of the scale of what is going on there they'd feel alike. It's not just Darfur, it's widespread anarchy over the entire continent since I remember, until things change in Africa I'd object to this type of game being set there.

Oh come on, big deal. It's set in africa. it's not hurting anyone because IT'S VIDEO GAME! You are not hurting real people. You are overeacting to this for no reason and trying to find a problem were there isn't one. All this crap is just for publicity and none of these complainers will change capcom's decisions for taking this game into this particular location. All i know is, i'll be playing an amazing game come 2009

That's a really weak excuse that you'd use no matter what content is in a particular game. It's also ignorant to assume that the world revolves around you, there are 6 other continents, and there are regions in the world where this setting could be harsh reminder of their everyday reality. Dont they teach you kids psychology anymore?

I finds it funny it's been ok all these years to kill mainly white, or mainly spanish, or mainly asian people all these years in video games. But because it's black it's all of a sudden racist. It truly is moronic for someone to automatically think its racist now because it's black, but it's not racist for any other race. It's so pathetic Sonick54

It is truly amazing indeed.

[QUOTE="Ninety-2"]Gotta admit, black people make some scary ass zombies...v1cious04

But its true. The contrast between their eyes and skin is what would make this scary.

I think it's poor taste on Capcom's part, and there is a difference between this setting and Spain or Dead Rising. You got thousands of Africans being slaughtered in Darfur/the rest of the country daily with little to nothing being done to stop it. Africa is just one of those sensitive spots, much like Iraq(which would be another area that should not be used in games) and having a form of media that is designed to be fun set there just FURTHER trivilizes the real, daily hardships Africans that are never reported. Bottom line it's offensive and Capcom deserves whatever flack they get, legitimate or not.

trifecta_basic

Bullcrap. I am not going to tout the "Its a game" chant since that is not a valid point IMO. However, making an issue of black zombies is rather foolish especially if the core argument is "they are black". In the imaginery world where zombies exist, zombies are zombies. There isn't any racial war amongst fellow zombies.

Its really a shame that this nonsense has been taken more seriously than it deserved to be. This thread deserves a big time lock.MarcusAntonius

The game is heavily based on Africa, that is very obvious from the trailer, regardless if it's "officially" set there. Don't tell me to be a man and then turn around and get into a semantics issue.

Arabic tribesman is not the only element in the Darfur conflict, it's really hard to follow you when you insist on making up bull.

The majority of war games pay tribute to the fallen and are in good taste, especially WW2 games. Try actually playing Company of Heroes or Call of Duty before making anymore sweeping, ignorant generations. However, I agree it can be very offensive to veterans, who know that the game doesn't depict what REALLY happened. I even agreed with this strongly in a thread where some veterans spoke out against a MOH game. But I think war games have there place just like war movies do and I think they will improve as technology dictates...if they haven't already.

The bottom line, it looks like a African village with African people...given the slaughter that is going on in that country I think it is in poor taste for Capcom to set there, just like I think it would be in poor taste to set it in a look-a-like Iraq. It doesn't rub me right that the hours I spend playing that game will amount to thousands of people being killed in a very similar setting...and if more people were aware of the scale of what is going on there they'd feel alike. It's not just Darfur, it's widespread anarchy over the entire continent since I remember, until things change in Africa I'd object to this type of game being set there.

trifecta_basic

I would just like to point out that Africa IS NOT a COUNTRY but a continent. Refering to the it as a country is grossly incorrect.

Oh come on, big deal. It's set in africa. it's not hurting anyone because IT'S VIDEO GAME! You are not hurting real people. You are overeacting to this for no reason and trying to find a problem were there isn't one. All this crap is just for publicity and none of these complainers will change capcom's decisions for taking this game into this particular location. All i know is, i'll be playing an amazing game come 2009

Sonick54

RE5 being a game is not an excuse of a valid reason. However, folks are overeacting on a topic that shouldn't garner such a negative reaction.

If you guys want to turn this into a heated debate regarding whether how 'offensive' RE5 is or is not, that's fine.

However, refrain from either using personal attacks, or excessively long quote trees. Thanks.

[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"][QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"][QUOTE="Moridin18"][QUOTE="trifecta_basic"]

trifecta_basic

That's a really weak excuse that you'd use no matter what content is in a particular game. It's also ignorant to assume that the world revolves around you, there are 6 other continents, and there are regions in the world where this setting could be harsh reminder of their everyday reality. Dont they teach you kids psychology anymore?

Get this, it's a video game. You are the one who is making it out to be offensive. Why? i don't know. Seeing as how none of this is real BECAUSE IT'S A VIDEO GAME WHICH HAS NO REAL CONNECTIONS TO THE REAL WORLD.

Get this, it's a video game. You are the one who is making it out to be offensive. Why? i don't know. Seeing as how none of this is real BECAUSE IT'S A VIDEO GAME WHICH HAS NO REAL CONNECTIONS TO THE REAL WORLD.

Sonick54

Please, please. The argument that is just a game is a stupid argument in favor of the game. A game that glorifies the killing of babies should be overlooked because it just a game. A game based on killing folks you don't like should be overlooked because its a game. Sooner or later blatant remarks of hatred towards people can be overlooked because it just words. Contrary to what you believe videogames do have a connection to the real world.

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

Get this, it's a video game. You are the one who is making it out to be offensive. Why? i don't know. Seeing as how none of this is real BECAUSE IT'S A VIDEO GAME WHICH HAS NO REAL CONNECTIONS TO THE REAL WORLD.

Pedro

Please, please. The argument that is just a game is a stupid argument in favor of the game. A game that glorifies the killing of babies should be overlooked because it just a game. A game based on killing folks you don't like should be overlooked because its a game. Sooner or later blatant remarks of hatred towards people can be overlooked because it just words. Contrary to what you believe videogames do have a connection to the real world.

Maybe so but people are blowing it out of proportion for no reasons. (except for media attention). May i ask, how will this affect the world in general in the eyes of everyday people? Will little kids start to become racist over this? And i find it very strange this issue is only brouth up when it's black people. Double standards FTL

Maybe so but people are blowing it out of proportion for no reasons. (except for media attention). May i ask, how will this affect the world in general in the eyes of everyday people? Will little kids start to become racist over this? And i find it very strange this issue is only brouth up when it's black people. Double standards FTL

Sonick54

I understand your point, however using the clause "its just a videogame" is an argument that can be used to justify just about everything.

[QUOTE="Sonick54"]

Maybe so but people are blowing it out of proportion for no reasons. (except for media attention). May i ask, how will this affect the world in general in the eyes of everyday people? Will little kids start to become racist over this? And i find it very strange this issue is only brouth up when it's black people. Double standards FTL

Pedro

I understand your point, however using the clause "its just a videogame" is an argument that can be used to justify just about everything.

Well in this case, i'm leaning towards just video game. I doubt capcom wanted to piss off black people for the sake of pissing them off. The woman who made the blog clearly is assuming way too much.

Well in this case, i'm leaning towards just video game. I doubt capcom wanted to piss off black people for the sake of pissing them off. The woman who made the blog clearly is assuming way too much.Sonick54

That's one aspect of the issue I haven't seen touched upon much, the fact that Capcom most likely knew what they were getting into when they went down this route. Nobody knows exactly how they'll present the subject matter, but it's not inconceivable that you might actually empathize with the zombies in this iteration because of how the plot is presented and what points it's trying to deliver.

I think most agree that this pre-emptive bashing is uncalled for, and has ignorance at its roots. However, it's something that's unfortunately bound to happen, and the only way Capcom can avoid further negative feedback is to educate the audience on how and why Resident Evil takes place in Africa. I wouldn't be surprised if we learned more beforehand about the storyline of this game than the others in the series, and that would probably end up being beneficial for Capcom, and RE5, methinks.

resident evil isnt a racist game, jsut because your in the mittle of africa, or samaulia, adn the t virus breaks loose, and because the majority of people that live on those places are black, you have to kill them. its like in racoon city. there waere a hell of alot of whites tyhere. then they became zombies and you had to kill them. so, if your in the right area, adn there are zombies, jsut because those zombies are a different color doesnt make it a racist. ok, now im a little frustrated. no one ever complained about in resident evil 1-3 when there was nothing but white zombies. no theres a few black zombies and everyone makes a huge deal bout it like the end of the world. it seems to me that people abuse the word racist, and only use it when someone of a different color other then white is offended.

http://uk.gamespot.com/users/gamingqueen/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=m-100-25095612

I said my opinion there since a user brought it up in one of my blogs... She made me write a blog about it!

[QUOTE="MarcusAntonius"]Its really a shame that this nonsense has been taken more seriously than it deserved to be. This thread deserves a big time lock.GodModeEnabled

For me RE5 is not a racist game!

if you remember the last versions of the game and compare with this new, the kill elements are the same.

Ofcoursethegamesis focused in Africa, what do you expect from there? Let me see... Blondes and asian like persons, or maybe scandinavians with blue eyes and gray hair?!

GETREAL!ThereisnootherwaytomakethegamewiththerealenviromentoftheregionandsetBlackpeople.:P

Japanese game developers have better things to do than make a game set in Africa for the sole intent of making sure the zombies can be black in order to express their racist intentions.

Because, quite frankly, that's all that matters. He's not killing them because they're zombies, he's killing them because they're black. If he encountered a white zombie (lulz), Heaven knows he'll let it free.

I cannot belive some random website is getting so much attention on gaming message boards. Nothing has happend yet, this is going to get much much worse, especially when the actual media gets a hold of it. Its going to happen with the big guns sooner or later, they are going to see one picture or video and base some sort of campaign against it not knowing any of the facts cause they just want to get attention. People are going to talk about it, nothing will happen, it will just be a big waste of time for everyone.

If Capcom wants to ease the response the game will get, they better start showing the monsters you will fight, show the villagers headsexploding to reveal acreature, show that this is a horror game that no enemy is human. It wont fix it but it will help.

dvader654

that would be such a cop out tho, and I really don't wanna see that, because it isn't neccessary. In fact I hope Capcom makes people even more aware of the current situation in Africa, then not it could actually benefit the country,and those in need. For example, if the game was set in Uguanda, they could have you fighting against a rebel camp which voluntarily subjected the villagers to the virus in order to gain absolute control over them. Then, the game could use the situation to its benefit, making each kill that more tense.