Super Nintendo: easily best legacy system, right?

1.Snes

2.Sega Genesis

3.Turbo Grafx-16

super nintendo has sooooooooooooooo many classic like earth worm jim 1 and 2, boogerman,clay fighter,earth bound, super mario RPG, super metriod, donkey kong 1,2 and 3, contra 3, mario kart, yoshi island,super mario world and soooooo many more!theclassicgamer

Yeahhhhh, SNES had amazing classic games! And don't forget Super Star Wars, one of my faves. SNES is definitely the best system for me,followed bySega Genesis. :)

Agreed. However the Genesis, PS1 and PS2 are close behind IMO.

The PS2 for me.

Agreed. However the Genesis, PS1 and PS2 are close behind IMO.

Seabas989

For sure.

SNES AND SATURN BAYBAY DAS ALL U NEED

The NES is my favorite, but, the SNES was great too :P

Here's how I would rank my top 5 legacy systems...

1. SNES

2. PS2

3. Nintendo Gamecube

4. Sega Genesis

5. Dreamcast

I agree with the topic title. I'm sure most people started gaming because of the SNES.

I dunno... I really liked the Genesis too........

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]I don't think the SNES could be considered the best legacy system as it had too many genre weaknesses.Domino_slayer

Other noticible deficits would be with strategy games as apart from Metal Marines all the SNES really had was a few multi-format games.

There were also a ridiculous amount of content guidelines that needed to be followed, It was quite funny seeing Wolfenstein with all the blood removed (Nintendo content rule disallowing blood) all the swatica's removed (Nintendo content rule about no symbols related to groups being allowed) and the dogs being turned into giant rats (Nintendo's contect rule about cruelty to animals)

And how can you fit a good strategy game on a console that old? The controls aren't very good for strategy games. Back on the time, i think strategy always was best on the PC, since games such as Age of Empires are best played with a mouse.

It most definitely is the best. It pounds the Genesis into the ground, in my opinion.

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I would have to disagree.

I believe Nintendo 64 was a lot better.

LithuanianGamer

IMO N64 library was pathetic,it was nothing compared to PSOne library.

PS1 had RPGs, Crash Bandicoot, and Metal Gear Solid. That's pretty much all I care about from that system.

I liked the SNES and N64 libraries much better, even though the N64 can't touch the SNES.

That era wasn't the shooter era in the first place. I mean, back on the time, all you need was two punches and side-scrolling to go around beating stuff. The shooters started with the counter-strike trend and on..meiaman

And how can you fit a good strategy game on a console that old? The controls aren't very good for strategy games. Back on the time, i think strategy always was best on the PC, since games such as Age of Empires are best played with a mouse.meiaman

[QUOTE="meiaman"]That era wasn't the shooter era in the first place. I mean, back on the time, all you need was two punches and side-scrolling to go around beating stuff. The shooters started with the counter-strike trend and on..Domino_slayer

And how can you fit a good strategy game on a console that old? The controls aren't very good for strategy games. Back on the time, i think strategy always was best on the PC, since games such as Age of Empires are best played with a mouse.meiaman

No good shmups on the SNES? Gradius III? UN Squadron? O-o

[QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]I don't think the SNES could be considered the best legacy system as it had too many genre weaknesses.Rocky32189

Shmups. Worse than the NES. And worse than the Mega Drive / Genesis, of course.

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]I don't think the SNES could be considered the best legacy system as it had too many genre weaknesses.Domino_slayer

Other noticible deficits would be with strategy games as apart from Metal Marines all the SNES really had was a few multi-format games.

There were also a ridiculous amount of content guidelines that needed to be followed, It was quite funny seeing Wolfenstein with all the blood removed (Nintendo content rule disallowing blood) all the swatica's removed (Nintendo content rule about no symbols related to groups being allowed) and the dogs being turned into giant rats (Nintendo's contect rule about cruelty to animals)

The SNES wasn't particularly weak in the strategy department compared to the other consoles. But the vast majority of strategy games worth playing on any console originated on computer platforms anyway.

agreed. snes was awesome. super mario all stars, DK series and legend of zelda: a link to the past were my favs.

Edit: and SW:ESB, Simcity, Killer Instinct, Mario RPG and more.... damn, I had a lot of favs..

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[QUOTE="meiaman"]Shooter as in Scrolling Shooter, not First Person Shooter, you have brought up another point though, due to it's age it's FPS games were terrible, whereas the PS1 is a legacy system with not only great RPG'S, 2D platformers, puzzle games and such like the SNES, it also has First Person Shooters, 3D platformers and proper 3D racing games.

[QUOTE="meiaman"]And how can you fit a good strategy game on a console that old? The controls aren't very good for strategy games. Back on the time, i think strategy always was best on the PC, since games such as Age of Empires are best played with a mouse.The_AI

No good shmups on the SNES? Gradius III? UN Squadron? O-o

UN Squadron was amazing when it came out in the arcades in 1989, but on SNES two years later was starting to look decidedly out of date, it just stands to the well crafted gameplay that even after those years it still managed to be worth buying.

Yes and no. Clearly the Sega Genesis and the SNES are some of the best consoles if not the best, to me at least it is my favorite combo. However, I would put nostalgia over anything, that's just how I feel, so for me it has to be the NES as my system of choice. Though, the Genesis and the SNES aren't too far from behind.

SNES......................that lineup was incredible.

Platformers...........Mario World, Yoshi's Island, DKC series, Mario All Stars. The Golden Age of quality JRPGs was during the SNES.....Final Fantasy VI (many consider this game the greatest console RPG ever released) Chrono Trigger (also considered the best console RPG), Secret of Mana and its sequel, Final Fantasy IV and V, Lufia I and II, The Soul Blazer trilogy. 7th Saga, Super Mario RPG, Earthbound, Dragon Quest V............

Then you got Link to the Past and Super Metroid, all time greats.

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[QUOTE="Domino_slayer"]The title says "legacy system" the Amiga counts as a legacy system and it's strategy games completely kick the sh#t out of the ones on SNES.

Domino_slayer

No good shmups on the SNES? Gradius III? UN Squadron? O-o

UN Squadron was amazing when it came out in the arcades in 1989, but on SNES two years later was starting to look decidedly out of date, it just stands to the well crafted gameplay that even after those years it still managed to be worth buying.

Fallacy error... I say, therefore it is.... The Sega Genesis was better, it had a greater percentage of the market share... Plus from personal experience, even though I have almost all of the awesome super nintendo games, I still seem drawn to the Sega Genesis. Then again same is true for the N64, so of course the N64 is going to draw me in more than the snes for obvious reasons. I dont know how to explain this, but it seems like I am not that into mario anymore, maybe its just me for the time being. I kind of hope its just me. Not that the SNES isnt a good quality system all around.

SegaGenesisfan

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Fallacy error... I say, therefore it is.... The Sega Genesis was better, it had a greater percentage of the market share... Plus from personal experience, even though I have almost all of the awesome super nintendo games, I still seem drawn to the Sega Genesis. Then again same is true for the N64, so of course the N64 is going to draw me in more than the snes for obvious reasons. I dont know how to explain this, but it seems like I am not that into mario anymore, maybe its just me for the time being. I kind of hope its just me. Not that the SNES isnt a good quality system all around.

BuryMe

"It was in 1993 that Sega pulled ahead of Nintendo in the North American market share. But with all of this success, they began slacking off."

http://www.consoledatabase.com/consoleinfo/segamegadrive/

The reason for that piece of misinformation, was because Sega started screwing up things, if they never made the Sega Cd, or the 32X thing, the Genesis would of been much more easily recognizable. The Sega Genesis was proven to be better, but poor decision making, really hurt the Genesis. Why I think its a beter console, is because the games have a better gameplay appeal, more speedy gameplay all around. Also, you forget the Genesis was playing against Nes, which they had a MONOPOLY over console gaming. So the fact that they won in marketshare, speaks volumes. But, Sega blew it in the end. But, without the Sega Cd, or Sega 32X, the Genesis is a beast.

Now when I was little I loved both, but as I grow up, the Super Nintendo loses its appeal, but the Sega Genesis only looks better to me. Besides, the N64 is better than the Snes. The point is, the Super Nintendo did not outright destroy the Genesis one bit, the only thing that happened is Sega got stupid.

*notices this topic just got bumped*

No. It is actually the best system ever.

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

I would have to disagree.

I believe Nintendo 64 was a lot better.

IMO N64 library was pathetic,it was nothing compared to PSOne library.

[QUOTE="BuryMe"]

[QUOTE="SegaGenesisfan"]

Fallacy error... I say, therefore it is.... The Sega Genesis was better, it had a greater percentage of the market share... Plus from personal experience, even though I have almost all of the awesome super nintendo games, I still seem drawn to the Sega Genesis. Then again same is true for the N64, so of course the N64 is going to draw me in more than the snes for obvious reasons. I dont know how to explain this, but it seems like I am not that into mario anymore, maybe its just me for the time being. I kind of hope its just me. Not that the SNES isnt a good quality system all around.

SegaGenesisfan

"It was in 1993 that Sega pulled ahead of Nintendo in the North American market share. But with all of this success, they began slacking off."

http://www.consoledatabase.com/consoleinfo/segamegadrive/

The reason for that piece of misinformation, was because Sega started screwing up things, if they never made the Sega Cd, or the 32X thing, the Genesis would of been much more easily recognizable. The Sega Genesis was proven to be better, but poor decision making, really hurt the Genesis. Why I think its a beter console, is because the games have a better gameplay appeal, more speedy gameplay all around. Also, you forget the Genesis was playing against Nes, which they had a MONOPOLY over console gaming. So the fact that they won in marketshare, speaks volumes. But, Sega blew it in the end. But, without the Sega Cd, or Sega 32X, the Genesis is a beast.

Now when I was little I loved both, but as I grow up, the Super Nintendo loses its appeal, but the Sega Genesis only looks better to me. Besides, the N64 is better than the Snes. The point is, the Super Nintendo did not outright destroy the Genesis one bit, the only thing that happened is Sega got stupid.

*notices this topic just got bumped*

http://www.lycos.com/info/sega--super-nintendo.html

65 percent is pretty good dude, that aint barely winning in the market. I am pretty sure those add-ons really hurt the reputation of the Sega Genesis. If it was not for that, I think there would of been more sales. The Genesis declined in 1993, while Donkey Kong Country was released in 1994, Nintendo basically had last dibs, especially since they released their console later.

Honestly, do I care if one sells more than the other? That does not mean one is better, just yesterday I was getting some food, Taco johns had like a bundle of customers, while Mcdonalds was full of people wanting whatever they had. >_>, not sayying the Snes is Mcdonalds though. Simply sales does not mean one is better, besides Nintendo had a monopoly in the beggining, all they had to do is release a second one, and a lot of people would just jump on the bandwagon. Of course the Super Nintendo was good in itself to deserve that attention, but what if Sega had the monopoly?

Nintendo had a mascot from the beggining that everyone loved, Sega had to make one out of the blue (literally). The Sega Genesis had 65 percent market share in 1992 despite having a console that was the underdog, but they won where it counts, America. Genesis is the American name, everywhere else it was called Megadrive, no wonder it did not sell as much. Do I really care what Japanese people buy, no offense but they are a bit sheepish to an extent. And its obvious that anything with American on it is rejected by Japan. Genesis was an American system overall, games like Robocop versus the Terminator, Golden Axe (Conan), and Road Rash.

Circumstances, circumcision, circumstances....... So no, the Super Nintendo is not easily the best legacy system. /thread

I agree that the Super Nintendo overall won, especially since it sold 2 years after the Genesis declined (due to poor decision making). If they did not make the Sega CD, or the 32X, the would of been able to make a bunch more games for all we know.

A good comparison would be Earthworm Jim on both systems, the Super Nintendo one is so boring compared to the much smoother Genesis game. Genesis was for adult gamers, Nintendo was for kids, back then gaming was concidered a kid thing.

I would say the N64 is just ahead.

Anyway how many consoles were better than the SNES for shmups? NES? What else?Michael-Smith

Mega Drive, NES, C64, Saturn, TG16, PS1, there's actually very few consoles that I can think of with a worse line-up of shmups than the SNES.

And of those consoles, do they beat out SNES in other genres? yeah didn't think so SNES = best ever. No one mentioned perfection just "bestMichael-Smith

The PS1 has all bases covered, it has no genre weaknesses therefore the SNES cannot be "easily" the best legacy system

Also, whilst the two consoles were competing the Mega Drive always had the edge with not only shmups, but sports games (EA always seemed to have trouble programming on the SNES so their ports were usualy inferior) and Strategy games (Herzog Zwei and Dune II blow every strategy game on the SNES away, Dune II was the predessessor to Command and Conquer)

but the 64 had no rpg's...except for paper mario and...quest 64 :lol:kidcool189

but they won where it counts, America. Genesis is the American name, everywhere else it was called Megadrive, no wonder it did not sell as much. Do I really care what Japanese people buy, no offense but they are a bit sheepish to an extent. And its obvious that anything with American on it is rejected by Japan. Genesis was an American system overall, games like Robocop versus the Terminator, Golden Axe (Conan), and Road Rash.SegaGenesisfan

From what I've heard though, the overall sales figures for the US alone have the SNES at the advantage, though only by a small margin.

Unfortunately the Mega Drive was a complete failure in Japan whilst the SNES was a massive success story so this is where the big discrepancy in sales figures is coming from.

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Circumstances, circumcision, circumstances....... So no, the Super Nintendo is not easily the best legacy system. /thread

TriggerGear

What?

Possibly the best. Not "easily the best" by any stretch of the imagination though. The PS1 just has so many genre and industry defining titles in its catalogue. Id say its a toss up at best between those 2. Completely down to personal opinion.

NES is also noteworthy as well.

i played more games on the ps1 than any other. N64 was the most fun

65 percent is pretty good dude, that aint barely winning in the market. I am pretty sure those add-ons really hurt the reputation of the Sega Genesis. If it was not for that, I think there would of been more sales. The Genesis declined in 1993, while Donkey Kong Country was released in 1994, Nintendo basically had last dibs, especially since they released their console later. Honestly, do I care if one sells more than the other? That does not mean one is better, just yesterday I was getting some food, Taco johns had like a bundle of customers, while Mcdonalds was full of people wanting whatever they had. >_>, not sayying the Snes is Mcdonalds though. SegaGenesisfan

besides Nintendo had a monopoly in the beggining, all they had to do is release a second one, and a lot of people would just jump on the bandwagon. Of course the Super Nintendo was good in itself to deserve that attention, but what if Sega had the monopoly?SegaGenesisfan

Nintendo had a mascot from the beggining that everyone loved, Sega had to make one out of the blue (literally).SegaGenesisfan

Genesis is the American name, everywhere else it was called Megadrive, no wonder it did not sell as much. Do I really care what Japanese people buy, no offense but they are a bit sheepish to an extent. And its obvious that anything with American on it is rejected by Japan. Genesis was an American system overall, games like Robocop versus the Terminator, Golden Axe (Conan), and Road Rash.SegaGenesisfan

agree that the Super Nintendo overall won, especially since it sold 2 years after the Genesis declined (due to poor decision making). If they did not make the Sega CD, or the 32X, the would of been able to make a bunch more games for all we know.SegaGenesisfan

A good comparison would be Earthworm Jim on both systems, the Super Nintendo one is so boring compared to the much smoother Genesis game.SegaGenesisfan

Nintendo never had a monopoly. I don't know where you got that idea from. The Sega Master System was only released a year after the NES. Sega was in the console business basically as early as Nintendo. Plus, the NES not only competed with the Master System, but it later competed with both the Turbographx/ PC Engine and the Genesis/Mega Drive.Rocky32189

Their first mascot was supposed be Alex Kidd, but that failed.Rocky32189

Also i'd just like to say that Alex Kidd is actually relatively well known and popular within my age group in the UK (those between 25 and 30) When I was a kid people would talk about Miracle World a lot.

Huh? I'm not sure where you got that from. Both versions were exactly the same, except the SNES version had better graphics and sound.Rocky32189

just like every other 16-bit multiplatRocky32189

Off the top of my head Mega Drive wins include -

Mickey Mania - SNES version has lower resolution, missing levels, missing voice samples, and new added load times

Thunder Force III/Thunder Spirits - Snes version has loads of slowdown.

Samurai Showdown - SNES version looks terrible and is massively zoomed out, plays like crap compared to the MD version

Mortal Kombat - SNES version looks better but plays poorlyand is very slugish

Out of this World - SNES version is less responsive, and has long load times between levels

90% of games made by EA - issues range between missing animation frames and background elements to unresponsive controls etc

Not sure if it's fair to mention it but Final Fight on theSega CD blows the SNES version away in every single aspect.

No far from it, people who say that have little experience with games.-Pred-Alien-