Super Nintendo: easily best legacy system, right?

Yes, you are right about the SNES.Rocky32189

Sega does what Nintendon't.

Genesis > SNES

SNES yah, but I've got a big place in my heart for the Dreamcast.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]No far from it, people who say that have little experience with games.Rocky32189

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]If you think the SNES is better than the MD, good for you, too bad i wasnt talking about that. People are hung up on nostalgia and shallow platformers, system such as the Saturn, PSone, even the N64 for its time were MUCH better.TriggerGear

Even though the PS1 is a great system it has a lot of downfalls. During its time 3D was relatively new so the graphics haven't aged well. Textures are low resolution and a lot of games have graphical glitches such missing polygons. The other problem with this is a lot of the 3D games have awful camera angles that make gameplay frustrating such as the Tomb Raider games. My biggest complaint with the system is the terrible load times. Symphony of the Night is one of my favorite games, but loading between areas can become tiresome.

I can see why someone might prefer the PS1 or Saturn over the SNES, but saying that the N64 is a better system I don't quite get. Besides the big name games like Ocarina and Goldeneye the N64 has little to offer.

Also, if you think the SNES only has "shallow platformers" then you're mistaken.

The N64 had better 4-player games than the SNES and PS1 and people who like those styles of games would prefer it, therefore all systems have their own strengths and weaknesses, therefore this entire thread is nonsense.

I can see why someone might prefer the PS1 or Saturn over the SNES, but saying that the N64 is a better system I don't quite get. Besides the big name games like Ocarina and Goldeneye the N64 has little to offer.TriggerGear

Ocarina of Time

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Mario 64

Golden Eye

Perfect Dark

Space Station Silicon Valley

Body Harvest

F-Zero X

Wave Race

Blast Corps

Mario Kart 64

Diddy Kong Racing

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Donkey Kong 64

Jet Force Gemini

Star Fox 64

Sin and Punishment

Super Smash Bros

Paper Mario

Majora's Mask

Excite Bike 64

Mischief Makers

Bangaioh

1080

Mystical Ninja

Castlevania 64

San Francisco Rush 2049

Operation Winback

WWF No Mercy

Rogue Squadron

Buck Bumble

Duke Nukem Zero Hour

Turok 2

Hybrid Heaven

Episode 1 Racer

Shadow Man

Indianna Jones and the Infernal Machine

Beetle Adventure Racing

Rocket Robot on Wheels

Pilot Wings

Rayman 2

Ogre Battle 64

Wetrix

Extreme G 2

Harvest Moon

Glover

Duke Nukem

Quake

Quake II

Mortal Kombat 4

Mario Tennis

Mario Golf

Duck Dodgers

hoards of sports games, Worms, Micro Machines, Bust a Move, Puyo Puyo etc

The N64 had better 4-player games than the SNES and PS1 and people who like those styles of games would prefer it, therefore all systems have their own strengths and weaknesses, therefore this entire thread is nonsense.

[QUOTE="TriggerGear"]I can see why someone might prefer the PS1 or Saturn over the SNES, but saying that the N64 is a better system I don't quite get. Besides the big name games like Ocarina and Goldeneye the N64 has little to offer.Domino_slayer

Ocarina of Time

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Mario 64

Golden Eye

Perfect Dark

Space Station Silicon Valley

Body Harvest

F-Zero X

Wave Race

Blast Corps

Mario Kart 64

Diddy Kong Racing

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Donkey Kong 64

Jet Force Gemini

Star Fox 64

Sin and Punishment

Super Smash Bros

Paper Mario

Majora's Mask

Excite Bike 64

Mischief Makers

Bangaioh

1080

Mystical Ninja

Castlevania 64

San Francisco Rush 2049

Operation Winback

WWF No Mercy

Rogue Squadron

Buck Bumble

Duke Nukem Zero Hour

Turok 2

Hybrid Heaven

Episode 1 Racer

Shadow Man

Indianna Jones and the Infernal Machine

Beetle Adventure Racing

Rocket Robot on Wheels

Pilot Wings

Rayman 2

Ogre Battle 64

Wetrix

Extreme G 2

Harvest Moon

Glover

Duke Nukem

Quake

Quake II

Mortal Kombat 4

Mario Tennis

Mario Golf

Duck Dodgers

hoards of sports games, Worms, Micro Machines, Bust a Move, Puyo Puyo etc

But thats pretty much all of it.-Pred-Alien-

You can have your massive list of second rate PS1 games :D

i can name that many good JRPGs on the PSone if i tried-Pred-Alien-

Also a lot of those games are multiplat, heck Quake 2 was BETTER on the PSone.-Pred-Alien-

And yes some of them were multiplatform

Shadow Man for instance (pity it's absolutely attrocious on PS1) or maybe Glover (pity it's absolutely attrocious on PS1)

Since I don't consider the PS2 to be a legacy platform yet and I never got to play the sega systems all that much, I'd have to agree that the SNES was the best legacy system. Most of the games I played most often as a kid were on the SNES, and overall I preferred the system and controller to anything else I used to play.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]But thats pretty much all of it.Domino_slayer

You can have your massive list of second rate PS1 games :D

i can name that many good JRPGs on the PSone if i tried-Pred-Alien-

Also a lot of those games are multiplat, heck Quake 2 was BETTER on the PSone.-Pred-Alien-

And yes some of them were multiplatform

Shadow Man for instance (pity it's absolutely attrocious on PS1) or maybe Glover (pity it's absolutely attrocious on PS1)

Quake 2 on N64 was a brand new game, but it was shallow and largely linear. The PC game was HUGE, so huge there were a bunch of totally cool secret levels. Even then, youd have to trek across multiple maps just so you can pass a level. The PSone game is a good approximation that keeps about 75% of that game. Man of the secrets that old school PC FPSs have, had been done away with and the environments were streamlined but it was still a much better game than the N64. Even the graphics were very good, easily matching the PC versions software graphics.

Shadowman however was indeed a joke on the PSone, however i remember many PSone 3D games that matched N64. One good example is Toy Story 2, the PSone version is loads better.

im just saying how the PSone covered all genres, and just that one genre in itself has enough quality to compete with the N64. And offcourse, you think PSone which means crappy ports am right?-Pred-Alien-

I don't see the N64 as being "Easily the greatest legacy system" but I also disagree with people making the assuption that it "obviously couldn't compete with the PS1 or SNES" as at the end of the day the N64 had a whole load of key releases during it's lifespan that were the best you could get at the time, also the PS1 doesn't have very many 4-player games by comparison so this was always a strength during the N64's lifespan.

Also I'm not sure if the older age of the Saturn is making people forget about the machine whilst it was around, but in Europe and North America the Saturn easily had a similarly slow releasing of games as the N64. It arrived with very few games, then Virtua Fighter 2, Sega Rally and Virtua Cop came out to loads of fanfare but after this releases slowed down a hell of a lot.

As I said before most machines have their own strengths and weaknesses so there cannot be an "easily" best system.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]im just saying how the PSone covered all genres, and just that one genre in itself has enough quality to compete with the N64. And offcourse, you think PSone which means crappy ports am right?Domino_slayer

I don't see the N64 as being "Easily the greatest legacy system" but I also disagree with people making the assuption that it "obviously couldn't compete with the PS1 or SNES" as at the end of the day the N64 had a whole load of key releases during it's lifespan that were the best you could get at the time, also the PS1 doesn't have very many 4-player games by comparison so this was always a strength during the N64's lifespan.

Also I'm not sure if the older age of the Saturn is making people forget about the machine whilst it was around, but in Europe and North America the Saturn easily had a similarly slow releasing of games as the N64. It arrived with very few games, then Virtua Fighter 2, Sega Rally and Virtua Cop came out to loads of fanfare but after this releases slowed down a hell of a lot.

As I said before most machines have their own strengths and weaknesses so there cannot be an "easily" best system.

i can see why the system was so popular and got so much support in Japan.-Pred-Alien-

Another genre the N64 lacked in were shooters, the PSone certainly wasnt as good as the Saturn (nothing is), it still had a good library where many of which were exclusive.-Pred-Alien-

yea I think its the best, thebest game ever is nba jam on super nintendo

MajerHawk

The N64 had better 4-player games than the SNES and PS1 and people who like those styles of games would prefer it, therefore all systems have their own strengths and weaknesses, therefore this entire thread is nonsense.

[QUOTE="TriggerGear"]I can see why someone might prefer the PS1 or Saturn over the SNES, but saying that the N64 is a better system I don't quite get. Besides the big name games like Ocarina and Goldeneye the N64 has little to offer.Domino_slayer

Ocarina of Time

Conker's Bad Fur Day

Mario 64

Golden Eye

Perfect Dark

Space Station Silicon Valley

Body Harvest

F-Zero X

Wave Race

Blast Corps

Mario Kart 64

Diddy Kong Racing

Banjo Kazooie

Banjo Tooie

Donkey Kong 64

Jet Force Gemini

Star Fox 64

Sin and Punishment

Super Smash Bros

Paper Mario

Majora's Mask

Excite Bike 64

Mischief Makers

Bangaioh

1080

Mystical Ninja

Castlevania 64

San Francisco Rush 2049

Operation Winback

WWF No Mercy

Rogue Squadron

Buck Bumble

Duke Nukem Zero Hour

Turok 2

Hybrid Heaven

Episode 1 Racer

Shadow Man

Indianna Jones and the Infernal Machine

Beetle Adventure Racing

Rocket Robot on Wheels

Pilot Wings

Rayman 2

Ogre Battle 64

Wetrix

Extreme G 2

Harvest Moon

Glover

Duke Nukem

Quake

Quake II

Mortal Kombat 4

Mario Tennis

Mario Golf

Duck Dodgers

hoards of sports games, Worms, Micro Machines, Bust a Move, Puyo Puyo etc

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"]Yes, you are right about the SNES.sonic_spark

Sega does what Nintendon't.

Genesis > SNES

amen brothers, well said

SNES is my third favorite console of all time, behind the PS1 and PS2.

Well if you think it's the best, then that settles it.

Jackc8

but he said "right?" at the end of the Topic. so there must be some doubt......

Well most of my favourite games of all time are on the SNES so I'd have to agree.....ok, well it's my favourite system anyway. Since it's my favourite I don't care if it's the best or not. ALttP, All Mario Games, Super Metroid, StarFox,Secret of Mana, Chrono Trigger, Lufia 1&2, Ys III, DKC 1,2&3, Act Raiser, ShadowRun, Super Punch-Out, FF6, Breath of Fire 1&2, Bubsy, NBA Hangtime, Super Star Wars, Killer Instinct, Street Fighter Games, Earthworm Jim 1&2, Super R-Type, R-Type III, Earthbound, Illusion of Gaia, King Arthur's World, Lost Vikings 1&2,Mega Man X,2&3, Metal Combat, Mortal Kombat Games, Plok.

DROOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLL!!!!!

The SNES may have the greatest game of all time (Super Metroid), but the PS1 and NES have better game libraries overall.Raiko101

the sad thing is all those 20 million n64 fans dont know one good ps1 game.. theres tons and they dont have the standard mario/metroid/zelda name aplied to them

i hate getting into arguements with n64 fans, they think the n64 is the best. When your console is on life support and requires loads of first party games it should be obvoius that your console (n64) isnt that great

and i think ps2 > ps1 (the ps2 just had more memorable games while also selling over 100m)

Its all opinion, but I think in general N64 games were better, and it was 3d, which obviously makes it better.

Best legacy console - likely, yes. Best legacy system - no, that title goes to the Amiga.