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#51 Hells_rebelion
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[QUOTE="Hells_rebelion"]Another is Lack of new franchises, lack of imagination....No one wants to take risks.Skylock00
There was another thread on this topic, where people were able to list over 50 new IPs so far this generation amongst the various platforms. I really don't think of that as a lack of new franchises, personally.

Ohh I'm sorry I mean new imaginative franchises, I don't count the whole sea of new FPS franchises that suddenly popped up and feel like robotic variations of other games.
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#52 SemiMaster
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[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="Hells_rebelion"]Another is Lack of new franchises, lack of imagination....No one wants to take risks.Hells_rebelion
There was another thread on this topic, where people were able to list over 50 new IPs so far this generation amongst the various platforms. I really don't think of that as a lack of new franchises, personally.

Ohh I'm sorry I mean new imaginative franchises, I don't count the whole sea of new FPS franchises that suddenly popped up and feel like robotic variations of other games.

Read This before you make generally incorrect and overly negative assumptions.

Seriously whats with the flood of negativity hitting this forum as of late. "This sucks, that sucks, this generation sucks"...

Stop playing games then, save your money and your breath.

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#53 Skylock00
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[QUOTE="Hells_rebelion"] Ohh I'm sorry I mean new imaginative franchises, I don't count the whole sea of new FPS franchises that suddenly popped up and feel like robotic variations of other games.

There's still quite a number of new IPs out there that aren't FPS...
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#54 McMJ3
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Agree with the lazy attitude about just patching games later. Also tired of all the psychotic 11 year olds mouthing off all the time.
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#55 Rush2k
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Leave it for the patch - Increasing trend, I hate when developers push games too quickly and release a patch within a week (which confirms they were aware of the problems). The first party guys like Sony and Microsoft should do more strict testing before giving the green light to send the games to gold. Gamer_4_Fun

Agree².

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#56 Ish_basic
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I hate what seems to be an increase in pointless item hunts. I know this was pretty much always a feature in platformers, though I would let them off the hook because rings, coins or whatever usually had some kind of impact on the gameplay, whether it's gaining an extra life or eventually turning into Super Sonic. This gen, seems like every game is asking me to collect some totally worthless, totally random paraphernalia, whether it be skulls in Ninja Gaiden or flags in Assassin's Creed or bags in Mirror's Edge. There are better ways to encourage me to explore the game environment, but if you are gonna include items, at least tie them into the gameplay. I think there is so much of this lately, because it's an easy-out for developers looking to bolster the achievement/trophy count on their game.

While i like trophies/achievements, I haven't always cared for how they've been used in multiplayer. One of the changes I appreciated most about Gears of War 2 was the move away from weapons based achievements and the sort of achievements that would lead to freelancing in ranked matches. Like in GeOW, inevitably you came across that guy bringing a knife to a gunfight because "I only need 5 more kills to get the achievement!" This gen has really introduced e-peen into the list of things that can ruin a multiplayer match. It's overall not a huge issue, but it never had to become an issue at all. I don't mind set-ups that reward you with new gear and such, so long as they're rewarding you for play that's consistent with the objectives of whatever match type you might be playing.

And maybe i'm just being unreasonable with this last one, but I'm sick of high-profile launches suffering from server crashes/issues on the first day. You spend a year or two hyping your product with advertisements in any place you can stick them, interviews with developers, 30 minute specials on the sci-fi channel...and then your game comes out and it's like "OMG!! SERVERZ DOWN!! We didn't think anyone would actually play it!!" I don't recall ever having these issues on PC, but maybe it's just the games I play.

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#57 Archangel3371
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[QUOTE="Skylock00"][QUOTE="Hells_rebelion"]Another is Lack of new franchises, lack of imagination....No one wants to take risks.SemiMaster
There was another thread on this topic, where people were able to list over 50 new IPs so far this generation amongst the various platforms. I really don't think of that as a lack of new franchises, personally.

Dude, don't cut him... there are sharks in the water already, it's going to be a frenzy if we smell blood again.

The scent of blood has drawn me here. :P Anyway perusing through the thread it looks like everything has already been well addressed by pretty much everyone else and I don't paticularily want to waste my time repeating what others have said as I would much rather spend that time enjoying the vast goodness of gaming today.
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#58 iam2green
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i wish there were more longer games. it feels like games get shorter and shorter. games now are becoming about 8 hours long. ps2 games they use to be long like hell. there needs to more unlockables in games.

i see hardcore as a game that takes a long time to beat it, unlock things in the game.
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Gamers

Yes I hate gamers the most. I hate the ones that say how the olden days were better and then throw their age into it and their first game like everyone is supposed to just gasp in amazent, back away and sit indian styled while they tell us stories about how Ninja Gaiden for the NES was the best game ever. Sorry you're living in the olden days. games like Shoot Em Ups (i refuse to use that dumb ass shortening of the genre. No other genre is that useless where it can't be reduced to a nice acronym. RPG's aren't rolplagers and FPS's aren't firpersho's) died for a reason. It's because if you've played one you've played them all and they never evolved. Some things don't have to evolve, like sharks. Sharks are kick ass, games where you fly dumb little ships and avoid as many little dots flying at you as the processor can do aren't kick ass.

I hate labels. I'm "hardcore", this game doesn't feel "next gen", this system has 14 "AAA" games the other system only has 11. These are all stupid measurements that don't mean a thing.

The only hardcore gamers I know about are dead or in jail, yes those are the people that played MMORPG's until they passed away or people that got their games taken away or systems broke and they killed people for it. That's pretty $%^&ing hardcore. Anyone after a while can memorize the button presses on a fake guitar or how many dots are flying at you next...but would you kill your little brother if he walked infront of your screen and messed you up while you were doing it? No because you're all normal gamers.

Next Gen isn't a level of quality, it's a series of consoles. If games were to be Next Gen they'd cost $600, break down on us at the worst times while our grandma's are flapping their arm flaps away.

AAA, AA, A? People seriously use these to judge which systems are better. These are the same people that write topics and blogs about how every review in the world is wrong if Tony Hawk Pro Barber doesn't get the exact point tenth of a score they expected the game to get.

Achievement whores. quit $%^&ing up my online experience just so you can hear a little pop and you get 25 more points. If you just played the game like a normal human being you would get the same number of points unexpectedly 4-5 games from now. But no, you have to run out and get the game on day 1 and then spend the next week racking up grenade kills. Stores like EBgames should keep track of gamer cards and if they see a bunch of online, weapon specific achievements in a row, but those guys on a waiting list.

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#60 Skylock00
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Gamers

Yes I hate gamers the most.

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I like this answer. I award you with 1 or more internet(s).

I have very little I see here that I disagree with, and any points that I do are so minor that they are inconsequential.
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#61 gunswordfist
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Motion sensoring in games. Shovelware. Games that are just a bunch of bad mini-games put on a disc.[QUOTE="Zweihand"]

Not enough hardcore games. I can only think of a few hardcore games on each platform this year.

And no, when I say "hardcore", I don't mean "gory" or "realistic first-person shooter". If you were born in the 90's, don't ask, because you wouldn't understand.

I ALWAYS get sick of hearing people say 'So you want more mindless, bloody shooters' when you say you want hadrcore games. That's so annoying.[QUOTE="juradai"]

The things I hate about this generation? Quite frankly...

People continuously trying to find something negative about this hobby. It seems more and more people this year that peple are looking for things to complain about this generation, even more so than any other generation. I account it to being spoiled. This by far has been the biggest annoyance beyond "games or industry practices that are bad".

I disagree. Jack Thompson makes games fly off of shelves.
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#62 gunswordfist
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If there's one thing that gets on my nerves, its the upward trend of minigame compilations catered towards non-gamer crowd. Though I'm happy that gaming is becoming a more relevent medium in this day and age, I don't think that creating these sorts of games is the way to go about it.BladesOfAthena

Agreed to the max.
[QUOTE="Hells_rebelion"]Another is Lack of new franchises, lack of imagination....No one wants to take risks.Skylock00
There was another thread on this topic, where people were able to list over 50 new IPs so far this generation amongst the various platforms. I really don't think of that as a lack of new franchises, personally.

I do. There's barely any good action/adventure games for one. For one, PS3 still only has about five good games in that genre. And there's only a handful of good TPSs this gen. I don't think anyone can even name ten good ones for each console. I know we are waiting for many good titles to come out next year but it doesn't mean they all will be good and we will be getting more flops. No problem with saying their aren't enough IPs and originality. All people have to really counter that is their little favorite games listsand upcoming games lists.

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#63 Skylock00
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No problem with saying their aren't enough IPs and originality. All people have to really counter that is their little favorite games listsand upcoming games lists.gunswordfist
The problem is that they should be saying, "There aren't enough new IPs I'm interested in," or "There aren't enough new IPs in genres I really care about," instead of resorting to such a broad-based claim that is, for lack of better words, is simply untrue. Just because an original IP comes by that someone doesn't really care for doesn't remove that IP's existance.
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#64 gunswordfist
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"] No problem with saying their aren't enough IPs and originality. All people have to really counter that is their little favorite games listsand upcoming games lists.Skylock00
The problem is that they should be saying, "There aren't enough new IPs I'm interested in," or "There aren't enough new IPs in genres I really care about," instead of resorting to such a broad-based claim that is, for lack of better words, is simply untrue. Just because an original IP comes by that someone doesn't really care for doesn't remove that IP's existance.

*relooks at that guy's post* He clearly said lack, meaning he doesn't hate all of them. There's nothing wrong with wanting more IPs. This is the painful part of the gen where we wait for many great looking IPs to be completed. All consoles are having a drought, one way or another these days.
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#65 Skylock00
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*relooks at that guy's post* He clearly said lack, meaning he doesn't hate all of them. There's nothing wrong with wanting more IPs.gunswordfist
He then clearly says "No One Wants to Take Risks," which translates to saying that it's a broadbased issue from his viewpoint. That's what we're arguing against, as we've even had another thread (linked in this one), regarding other posters trying to make the same hyperbole heavy claims.
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#66 one_on_one
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PS3: mandatory installs, L2 R2 triggers, sixaxis, waiting for games, Home.

360: paying for online, rrod.

Wii: not enough games I like, too casual.

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#67 BuryMe
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There are many things I hate about this gen, some of them are:

  • Offline multiplayer / Splitscreen - It seams the developers expect everyone to play online and dont want anyone to have any real social interaction. I mean comon! Games are much much more fun to play with a friend or friends beside you and watch their priceless expression when you frag them.
  • Multiplayer treatment - Nowadays, most games get away with mediocre and short SP campaigns by offering some sort of multiplayer option. I guess they should be reminded by games like MGS 4 and Bioshock.
  • Leave it for the patch - Increasing trend, I hate when developers push games too quickly and release a patch within a week (which confirms they were aware of the problems). The first party guys like Sony and Microsoft should do more strict testing before giving the green light to send the games to gold.
If you have any other points, lemme know. I would love to know what you guys hate about this gen.

Gamer_4_Fun
I think you summed up my problems. Too much focus on online, and not enough on the single player and local multiplayer. That, and being expected to point out the glitches in games to developers, when they really should have been tested beforehand.
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#68 Shmiity
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The increasing trend of graphics being more important than gameplay...

The toned down difficulty of most games... It seems like each game this gen that I finished, basically held my hand on normal difficulties.

Never used a vita chamber in Bioshock, never died in silent hill: Homecoming, never got knocked out in fable 2, thousands of spare ammo and healing items in dead space...

I want a challenging game, but a forgiving one at the same time, Gears as a series seems to do that well enough. But really, it seems games are becoming more and more "for everyone" rather then the "hardcore" gamer.

It all comes down to money, make things casual, bigger audience buys it.

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#69 imthemostwanted
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i hate it how every thing is so freaking expensive
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#70 jjtiebuckle
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Unreal Engine 3. If you've ever played a FPS (or any) current gen game in the past few years, you should of noticed graphic wise they all looked similar. Want to guess why? Blame those bastards at Epic... Even more BAD news - Unreal Engine 4 can't run on this generations machines. But the first next-gen game you see using the UE will set the standard for those first few years...
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#71 foxhound_fox
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The focus on multiplayer and downloadable content. There are plenty of great games out there but they just don't feel like "console" games anymore. The focus on console gaming is shifting away from "plug-n-play" towards "hey, the PC has some great features, lets integrate them into consoles without giving the consumer the ability to customize!"
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#72 thequietguy
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  1. Too many sequels.
  2. EA.
  3. $200 games.
  4. $500 systems.
  5. The Red Ring of Death.
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Patches used as an excuse to have an unpolished game

DLC that should have been in the game

People saying they want Goldeneye for download with online.

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#74 bigfatcrap
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Lack of good games on the Wii. I played a game at Gamestop one day called "count the shovelware." I counted over a hundred games in the Wii section. Of all systems I invested in it had to be that.:x

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#75 Zweihand
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  1. Too many sequels.
  2. EA.
  3. $200 games.
  4. $500 systems.
  5. The Red Ring of Death.
thequietguy
Aside from certain rare Sega Saturn games, which "$200 games" do you speak of?
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#76 EmptySki
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I honestly can't stand the hardrives. It seems cool at first, but I eventually you run out of room. i liked bringing my memory card over a friends house.
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#77 Greatgone12
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Unreal Engine 3. If you've ever played a FPS (or any) current gen game in the past few years, you should of noticed graphic wise they all looked similar. Want to guess why? Blame those bastards at Epic... Even more BAD news - Unreal Engine 4 can't run on this generations machines. But the first next-gen game you see using the UE will set the standard for those first few years...jjtiebuckle
You have absolutely no understanding of how an engine works. Just because a game runs on Unreal Engine 3 doesn't mean it's going to look like Gears of War. That's misinformation, and I'd appreciate it if you stopped spreading it. Read this.
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[QUOTE="jjtiebuckle"]Unreal Engine 3. If you've ever played a FPS (or any) current gen game in the past few years, you should of noticed graphic wise they all looked similar. Want to guess why? Blame those bastards at Epic... Even more BAD news - Unreal Engine 4 can't run on this generations machines. But the first next-gen game you see using the UE will set the standard for those first few years...Greatgone12
You have absolutely no understanding of how an engine works. Just because a game runs on Unreal Engine 3 doesn't mean it's going to look like Gears of War. That's misinformation, and I'd appreciate it if you stopped spreading it. Read this.

Amen to that.

It gets on my nerves whenever people make broad generalizations such as these.

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Aside from certain rare Sega Saturn games, which "$200 games" do you speak of?Zweihand

Probably a shot at DLC. A little over-exaggerated but the right idea.
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#82 981Master
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fanboys

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People saying how games should be, what consoles to own, how this should be played, and how to be a gamer in general.

So other people just about sums it up.

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#85 one_on_one
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The recession.

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#86 jjtiebuckle
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[QUOTE="jjtiebuckle"]Unreal Engine 3. If you've ever played a FPS (or any) current gen game in the past few years, you should of noticed graphic wise they all looked similar. Want to guess why? Blame those bastards at Epic... Even more BAD news - Unreal Engine 4 can't run on this generations machines. But the first next-gen game you see using the UE will set the standard for those first few years...Greatgone12
You have absolutely no understanding of how an engine works. Just because a game runs on Unreal Engine 3 doesn't mean it's going to look like Gears of War. That's misinformation, and I'd appreciate it if you stopped spreading it. Read this.

Lol at least I didn't use technical jargon to sound legit! And no offense towards you, but that source is about as reliable as Wikipedia (non reliable). Also if you read the article, they mention what I've stated - games use UE 3. I never stated which parts, no matter how minute, because I have no freakin clue! But they mention companies like Valve using their own engine which is a testament to great games. In the end, originality wins (Uncharted, MGS 4, Half-Life 2).
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#87 Ballroompirate
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Lets see

*HDD being sold separately..., they should already be in the damn console!!!

*$60 games, I really dont give a damn how flashy or how the graphic engine looks in a game spending $60 on a disc is getting expensive

*Lack of fighting games,SCIV was a decent fighter but there hasnt been that much this gen (SFIV needs to come out quicker :()

*Lack of RPGs, theres been a few good ones but they don't hold a candle to the last two gen RPGs.

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I just hate how devs keep trying to release parts of a game later as DLC that they had ready and should've been in the game to begin with.
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#89 skp_16
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* DLC/Add-ons - IMO it should be free or just made it unlockables or include it in patches. $60 is already too much.

* Length of storymode suffers because of the online content and trophies.

* Story and gameplay just being so-so because devs concentrates more on making the graphics super uber nice.

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#90 UltimateXShadow
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Damn, it's pretty cold in here. There is so much fighting and what-not. All I can say is this:

Why can't we be friends?

The recession.

one_on_one

Wow, that was my first thought, too! Because of the recession, companies are generally taking less financial risks for making games. That is probably a major reason why we are seeing more "similar" games like shooters and party-games on the market. I'm not bashing either genre at all, as I do like my fair share of both types of games. Still, companies know that those games tend to sell well, so more are continually made.

However, I could be completely wrong. But, if I am, don't bother insulting me, because that accomplishes nothing substantial.

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#91 thequietguy
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[QUOTE="thequietguy"]
  1. Too many sequels.
  2. EA.
  3. $200 games.
  4. $500 systems.
  5. The Red Ring of Death.

Zweihand

Aside from certain rare Sega Saturn games, which "$200 games" do you speak of?

Rock Band and Guitar Hero Special Edition kits cost over $150 now; even more if you get the stage set thing.

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#92 Skylock00
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Rock Band and Guitar Hero Special Edition kits cost over $150 now; even more if you get the stage set thing.

thequietguy
but...that's not a $200 game. That's a $60 game with accessories that you don't even need to buy them with the game right away, as these games now feature compatibilities with other instruments.

Heck, RB2 for the Wii came out, and despite GHWT's incompatibility with anything other than Guitar Hero instruments, Rock Band 2 supports pretty much any Guitar Hero/Rock Band Wii instrument.
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#93 ASK_Story
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Just cost. Games are very expensive now, even used ones. And some single players that are too short, especially with no multiplayer or co-op play. And they're too expensive.
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#94 gunswordfist
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Just cost. Games are very expensive now, even used ones. And some single players that are too short, especially with no multiplayer or co-op play. And they're too expensive.ASK_Story
TF are you talking about? I got a case with MUA and Forza 2 for 16 bucks. You must be going to the wrong place for used games. lol
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#95 ViewtifulScott
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The number one thing that gets to me right now, is the fact that Sony has had HDMI on the PS3 hardware from day one, and yet even today they still have recurring issues with the hardware losing HDMI picture and sound and seeming random, with some people needing to go so far as a full system restore to get it back. I'm having that issue right now, for about the tenth damn time since I originally bought one. It drives me nuts. Especially since I just took the very same cord, plugged it into my 360, and it worked just fine. Yet tech support will try to talk you into buying a new cord or it being a TV issue if you call this sort of thing in. I JUST got a 160GB HDD in there, and I JUST downloaded a TON of stuff over the last week or so. I am NOT doing a full system restore to get the HDMI picture back again, I'll turn the damn thing and walk away before I download all that stuff AGAIN. Just... ugh. They've had this issue since 2006, for christs sake. This is THE most annoying thing about this gen so far for me. By far.
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I agree with someone here posting that the developers 'increase the playability' by throwing collect quests for various items like flags, pigeons and even weird light bulbs. These tend to be more a chore than challenge.
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#97 Poshkidney
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People who moan about the score reviews give as if thats the only thing that matters.

No get rid of them and make people read the whole thing. Another thing you lot going fail when they say they didn't like a game you like .

Multiplayer being named replay no that multiplayer. Replay is going that was good i'm going to go through it again..

this sort of ohh the old games were better as if they love them a wee bit too much.

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#98 Grammaton-Cleric
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I'm still laughing at that poser who refers to himself as hardcore and slams quality games because he is just that cool.

Christ. He's about as hardcore as a kid wearing a Hannah Montana T-shirt at a Metallica concert. Can you say out of his element?

I've always felt the terms hardcore simply meant a serious investment of time into something, specifically a hobby. If you play games alot, you're hardcore. The rest of it is so much praddle and arrogance and has evolved to a point where twits wear these labels as some badge of honor, most likely because their own lives are seriously lacking in substance.

The most annoying trend this generation is the fact that some people simply don't appreciate how far the medium has evolved. We live in a pedantic, opinionated time where the internet has fostered an environment where everybody feels the need to shoot of their mouths, often before knowing exactly what the hell they are talking about.

I'm also sick of hearing about innovation when the reality is that most gamers don't want innovation, despite their verbose claims to the contrary.

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#99 ASK_Story
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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Just cost. Games are very expensive now, even used ones. And some single players that are too short, especially with no multiplayer or co-op play. And they're too expensive.gunswordfist
TF are you talking about? I got a case with MUA and Forza 2 for 16 bucks. You must be going to the wrong place for used games. lol

I'm talking about newer games, man. Like Dead Space. Still expensive.
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#100 gunswordfist
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[QUOTE="gunswordfist"][QUOTE="ASK_Story"]Just cost. Games are very expensive now, even used ones. And some single players that are too short, especially with no multiplayer or co-op play. And they're too expensive.ASK_Story
TF are you talking about? I got a case with MUA and Forza 2 for 16 bucks. You must be going to the wrong place for used games. lol

I'm talking about newer games, man. Like Dead Space. Still expensive.

But I was talking about used games.