Update: MS: GAF Share threads OK! Your library. Any 10 gamers. Dogs too!

Why go through all that work around just to play used or borrowed games? I'd rather just stick with a PS3 or get a PS4. And even then, Sony is leaving that decision up to the devs. I don't see how a AAA multiplat game will have coded bullshit for one console and not the other. Sony made off like the knight in shining armor now, but time will tell.

No.

But if you want to share your game with SS, just mail it using USPS.:P

alexwatchtower

Oh I just don't. :D

Why go through all that work around just to play used or borrowed games? I'd rather just stick with a PS3 or get a PS4. And even then, Sony is leaving that decision up to the devs. I don't see how a AAA multiplat game will have coded bullshit for one console and not the other. Sony made off like the knight in shining armor now, but time will tell.

HipHopBeats

What work? I buy it. Anyone on my list can play it. Anywhere in the USA.

The only work is you driving to your friends house or rental store to borrow, lend or rent a game. I'm done with that mess. No more rental store chasing! They never have the game I want in stock!

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Why go through all that work around just to play used or borrowed games? I'd rather just stick with a PS3 or get a PS4. And even then, Sony is leaving that decision up to the devs. I don't see how a AAA multiplat game will have coded bullshit for one console and not the other. Sony made off like the knight in shining armor now, but time will tell.

alexwatchtower

What work? I buy it. Anyone on my list can play it. Anywhere in the USA.

The only work is you driving to your friends house or rental store to borrow, lend or rent a game. I'm done with that mess. No more rental store chasing! They never have the game I want in stock!

Lol, I never rent because I'm too lazy to go through the trouble of waiting for and returning it. Ebay never fails. Simply wait a few weeks after release and get it for less. Plus 'lets play' vids are the next best thing to downloading the demo if you don't mind spiolers.

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[QUOTE="HipHopBeats"]

Why go through all that work around just to play used or borrowed games? I'd rather just stick with a PS3 or get a PS4. And even then, Sony is leaving that decision up to the devs. I don't see how a AAA multiplat game will have coded bullshit for one console and not the other. Sony made off like the knight in shining armor now, but time will tell.

HipHopBeats

What work? I buy it. Anyone on my list can play it. Anywhere in the USA.

The only work is you driving to your friends house or rental store to borrow, lend or rent a game. I'm done with that mess. No more rental store chasing! They never have the game I want in stock!

Lol, I never rent because I'm too lazy to go through the trouble of waiting for and returning it. Ebay never fails. Simply wait a few weeks after release and get it for less. Plus 'lets play' vids are the next best thing to downloading the demo if you don't mind spiolers.

Ok have fun with that!

I'm lazier. I'll just put it in my share library and I'm done. And check out anyone else's share library that's sharing with me and start playing right away.

That's great if it's true, but publishers and sony weren't exactly happy back when you could share ps3 games with up to 5 people so they cut it to 2. Now I know with the way it was designed everybody could play the games at the same time and that's not possible with this system, but still it bumped up the limit to 10 people, it's easier to do now and they're even advertising it as a feature. I don't see publishers agreeing with this, I can only guess they will be able to limit their games from being shared.

What happened to the announced stipulation that you couldn't play a game for more than an hour if it wasn't being played on your original console?

What happened to the announced stipulation that you couldn't play a game for more than an hour if it wasn't being played on your original console?

Shame-usBlackley

You could, you just needed to check in. That's what the online check in is for. So someone can share your game library, one at a time. So it doesn't get abused and 10 friends log on, grab your game, log off for 24 hours and beat it, therby all simultaneously playing 1 copy. That's for preventing that.

They only allow you and 1 other person to simultaneously play your game. That's what the check-ins are for.

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What happened to the announced stipulation that you couldn't play a game for more than an hour if it wasn't being played on your original console?

alexwatchtower

You could, you just needed to check in. That's what the online check in is for. So someone can share your game library, one at a time. So it doesn't get abused and 10 friends log on, grab your game, log off for 24 hours and beat it, therby all simultaneously playing 1 copy. That's for preventing that.

They only allow you and 1 other person to simultaneously play your game. That's what the check-ins are for.

So shared copies have to check in every hour?

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[QUOTE="Shame-usBlackley"]

What happened to the announced stipulation that you couldn't play a game for more than an hour if it wasn't being played on your original console?

Shame-usBlackley

You could, you just needed to check in. That's what the online check in is for. So someone can share your game library, one at a time. So it doesn't get abused and 10 friends log on, grab your game, log off for 24 hours and beat it, therby all simultaneously playing 1 copy. That's for preventing that.

They only allow you and 1 other person to simultaneously play your game. That's what the check-ins are for.

So shared copies have to check in every hour?

No, we know little to nothing about the shared copies. The 1 hour check was if you log in to a different console with your profile. 

Why do I think of snake oil salesmen when I hear that you can share you games with 10 others?

wiouds

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You could, you just needed to check in. That's what the online check in is for. So someone can share your game library, one at a time. So it doesn't get abused and 10 friends log on, grab your game, log off for 24 hours and beat it, therby all simultaneously playing 1 copy. That's for preventing that.

They only allow you and 1 other person to simultaneously play your game. That's what the check-ins are for.

S0lidSnake

So shared copies have to check in every hour?

No, we know little to nothing about the shared copies. The 1 hour check was if you log in to a different console with your profile. 

Well that's kind of what this is from your friend's point of view who is sharing your library.  They can have access to it even when you are not online.

The person who has the original copy only needs to do it every 24 hours.

What is known about this share with 10 family members?

I find it hard that they would just allow you to pick ten people to share you rental libary with.

What is known about this share with 10 family members?

I find it hard that they would just allow you to pick ten people to share you rental libary with.

wiouds

Do you find it hard to believe publishers allow GameFly to "share" and charge for renting games out to everyone?

This is no different. Except they can still make money off of you. They can't when you go to GameFly. They can't encourage you to buy it. They can't offer you cool updates that will incentivize you to buy things. This is better in every way for them.

EDIT: And us.

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What is known about this share with 10 family members?

I find it hard that they would just allow you to pick ten people to share you rental libary with.

alexwatchtower

Do you find it hard to believe publishers allow GameFly to "share" and charge for renting games out to everyone?

This is no different. Except they can still make money off of you. They can't when you go to GameFly. They can't encourage you to buy it. They can't offer you cool updates that will incentivize you to buy things. This is better in every way for them.

It is very different from GameFly since GameFly is monthly fee system.

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What is known about this share with 10 family members?

I find it hard that they would just allow you to pick ten people to share you rental libary with.

wiouds

Do you find it hard to believe publishers allow GameFly to "share" and charge for renting games out to everyone?

This is no different. Except they can still make money off of you. They can't when you go to GameFly. They can't encourage you to buy it. They can't offer you cool updates that will incentivize you to buy things. This is better in every way for them.

It is very different from GameFly since GameFly is monthly fee system.

What he said. Gamefly's fee has nothing to do with the publishers. They only pay for the initial rental copies. So this is actually better for publishers. You and your friends are always there, not at some offsite, ready to buy more of that publisher's stuff when you get an impulse to do so.

Besides, Xbox Live Gold has a montly fee too.

What he said. Gamefly's fee has nothing to do with the publishers. They only pay for the initial rental copies. So this is actually better for publishers. You and your friends are always there, not at some offsite, ready to buy more of that publisher's stuff when you get an impulse to do so.

Besides, Xbox Live Gold has a montly fee too.

alexwatchtower

Risking the lost of sales is a good thing for publishers?

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What he said. Gamefly's fee has nothing to do with the publishers. They only pay for the initial rental copies. So this is actually better for publishers. You and your friends are always there, not at some offsite, ready to buy more of that publisher's stuff when you get an impulse to do so.

Besides, Xbox Live Gold has a montly fee too.

wiouds

Risking the lost of sales is a good thing for publishers?

They're only risking this being worse than GameFly and used games which it won't be since they will limit to each copy being shared with a maximum of 10 people. Not unlimited used games sales. Not unlimited rentals. Get it?

And again, from what I understand publishers still have a right to opt out and I expect some additional restrictions. Some games might not be available for the sharing plan. That's up to each publisher. And there may be additional restrictions similar to rental stores, like not being able to share games day 1 on release date. Not all of it has been fully clarified.

Look into Sony's UltraViolet service. It's the same thing and it appears to be a lucrative model for movies which have less re-play value than most games do. The upside is that gamers will also encourage each other to keep their game libraries fresh and new. So buy more games. So other gamers will want to share with them.

So this is actually better for publishers. You and your friends are always there, not at some offsite, ready to buy more of that publisher's stuff when you get an impulse to do so.

alexwatchtower

EDIT: Nevermind, I didn't see the post above in which you clarified it a bit better.

Remember game sharing on the PS3 used to be 5 people, and after all the publishers' bickering, Sony changed it to 2...   Now imagine if this XBOX sharing with 10 friends/family is true.....:twisted:

This is only good for single player games. What's the point of sharing a game with a friend when you want to play together, only one person can play it online. It will be worse than used games, how many games get resold 9 times? The avg used game get's sold 1-3 times.

Remember game sharing on the PS3 used to be 5 people, and after all the publishers' bickering, Sony changed it to 2...   Now imagine if this XBOX sharing with 10 friends/family is true.....:twisted:

123pazu

Sounds like a great feature but I'm guessing most publishers are going to opt out of this ...for big releases at least.

Sounds like a great feature but I'm guessing most publishers are going to opt out of this ...for big releases at least.

TheMierArmy

They never really opted out of Gamefly or Blockbuster though for big releases. Just for same day availability. Could be the same.

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Sounds like a great feature but I'm guessing most publishers are going to opt out of this ...for big releases at least.

alexwatchtower

They never really opted out of Gamefly or Blockbuster though for big releases. Just for same day availability. Could be the same.

It is almost like GameFly and Block Buster can do to the store and pick up the games and then rent them out.

I find this hard to believe. More BS from MS.

Gif would probably be too long for this one. :P

Tom Cruise explains Microsoft's deal.

Ignoring the fact that 9 lost sales is not good for devs much? And please don't go saying that they'll make a profit by shoving microtransactions and features of shared games behind a paywall, you've got demos for that.

Less Grossman takes on hardcore gamers and Sony on DRM.

Shouldn't this level of corporate shilling be against Gamespot's TOS? Seriously, how can we have discussions about games when we have these corporate advertisers running up and down this forum throwing arguments and counter arguments left and right. Mods you need to do something about this, the quality of the boards these last couple of days has been appalling. Get this ish together.JJ_Productions

[QUOTE="JJ_Productions"]Shouldn't this level of corporate shilling be against Gamespot's TOS? Seriously, how can we have discussions about games when we have these corporate advertisers running up and down this forum throwing arguments and counter arguments left and right. Mods you need to do something about this, the quality of the boards these last couple of days has been appalling. Get this ish together.Randolph

His posts are blantant MS advertisement, just looking at the first 2 pages of  PGD you ll see how many posts he has. Enough is enough . 

Shouldn't this level of corporate shilling be against Gamespot's TOS? Seriously, how can we have discussions about games when we have these corporate advertisers running up and down this forum throwing arguments and counter arguments left and right. Mods you need to do something about this, the quality of the boards these last couple of days has been appalling. Get this ish together.JJ_Productions

This policy is baffling. So sharing a physical copy of a game is bad and should be prohibited but now we're going to allow you to digitally share one purchase with nine other people? Ok, Microsoft...