Why Titan Fall has no single player: it's your fault

I'm cool with it, I'll be getting it for the PC

What have I done?

 People always go on about how it's stupid when a great single-player game has a worthless tacked-on multiplayer and they're completely right. But this works both ways. Multiplayer games don't need tacked-on single-player either. 

UpInFlames

That's how I see it.

I played through the BF3 campaign and wow I see why they made it disc 2... Cause it came off as a complete after-thought that they threw together to say they had a campaign.

It's their game to  make as they will. Don't like it? Don't buy it...and honestly you probably don't like it because you're shitty as hell at it.cfisher2833

[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]It's their game to  make as they will. Don't like it? Don't buy it...and honestly you probably don't like it because you're shitty as hell at it.Randolph

That whole online multiplayer FPS genre holds zero interest for me.  Yet the entire nucleus of the industry is centered around it.  That's pretty much why I switched to PC gaming - I'd rather go back and play single-player favorites from this gen with better graphics, frame rates and mod's - than bother with this pwn the noob and teabag him nonsense.

Jackc8

I expected replies such as these. As I said, people don't care about single player anymore and most of you guys are confirming it. You are perfectly entitled to that stance, by the way. It's just sad to see single player beginning to die.Black_Knight_00

I think what we'll see is developers focusing more on what moves their product, for better or for worse. I'm sure there are people that love Far Cry's multiplayer, but it's clear most of the funding for that game went into the SP aspect. Given the success of Blood Dragon, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more Far Cry titles with a stricter focus on single player. I'm fine having the Bioshocks, Wolfensteins, and Far Crys along the Titanfalls and Tribes.

Its a game built from the ground up for Multiplayer and everyone is going to buy it for multiplyaer. The single player would have been watered down and taken money and resources away from the multiplayer.

Keep in mind, i HATE multiplayer, and this is how i feel.

I dont want tacked on multiplayer hurting my single player, and i dont want tacked on single player hurting other peoples multiplayer.

[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]I expected replies such as these. As I said, people don't care about single player anymore and most of you guys are confirming it. You are perfectly entitled to that stance, by the way. It's just sad to see single player beginning to die.IndianaPwns39

I think what we'll see is developers focusing more on what moves their product, for better or for worse. I'm sure there are people that love Far Cry's multiplayer, but it's clear most of the funding for that game went into the SP aspect. Given the success of Blood Dragon, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more Far Cry titles with a stricter focus on single player. I'm fine having the Bioshocks, Wolfensteins, and Far Crys along the Titanfalls and Tribes.

Hmm can't really say it's a huge deal. Would've been nice of course but honestly there will be so many other games that have AAA stories that would most likely put this game to shame. It's still surprising though, CoD actually still has many people invested in the story and all of my friends that like the games play through the story. Tbh though, Halo is the only FPS that really has my interest as far as story (and Rainbow Six but that's not really a huge on going story). Really I could see Battlefield benefiting from cutting a single-player out as well. A lot of reviews criticized the stories in those games. I think for games like this, it might be a smart move to do this and include more maps and features. It's the same with single-player games not going into multiplayer. It honestly makes sense. Splitting teams and spending tons of money on both isn't too practical.

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[QUOTE="Black_Knight_00"]I expected replies such as these. As I said, people don't care about single player anymore and most of you guys are confirming it. You are perfectly entitled to that stance, by the way. It's just sad to see single player beginning to die.Black_Knight_00

I think what we'll see is developers focusing more on what moves their product, for better or for worse. I'm sure there are people that love Far Cry's multiplayer, but it's clear most of the funding for that game went into the SP aspect. Given the success of Blood Dragon, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more Far Cry titles with a stricter focus on single player. I'm fine having the Bioshocks, Wolfensteins, and Far Crys along the Titanfalls and Tribes.

Yeah, I get that. 

Though now that I think about it, CoD 1, 2, and the original Modern Warfare had some pretty great campaigns and were praised by fans and critics alike. I think it's unfair to blame the fans when the campaigns were going down hill for a while. 

On a semi-related note, do we know what Titanfall is going to cost? Is this free to play? A downloadable title? A full fledged, multiplayer only $60 game?

I see absolutely no problem with this, in fact I prefer it and have been wanting companies to do this for a while now. Why put a five-hour singleplayer campaign in a shooter when the multiplayer is clearly what most people spend the overwhelming majority of their time playing? Games like COD and Battlefield don't need campaigns, and are probably better off just focusing the extra time on the multiplayer. 

I'd like to start calling it tacked-on singleplayer, because that's what it really is. And the opposite is true for the tacked-on multiplayer of singleplayer games. Why bother? 

I see nothing wrong with the decision. As you said, most players skip the sp and and go right for the mp in games like this, so why bother with a single player campaign when it's not even wanted by the majority? If you want to play FPS sp-only games, stick with Metro, Bioshock and Half Life.

Bigboi500

With that said, I expect the MP to launch as a very complete experience.  Not only coming with a handful of maps, and then trying to dish dlc map packs out soon after.  

not my fault

I hate it when people go straight to multiplayer, really f**** me off. I don't even bother with multiplayer and if I do, I make sure I finish the single player first.

I hate it when people go straight to multiplayer, really f**** me off. I don't even bother with multiplayer and if I do, I make sure I finish the single player first.

Venom_Raptor

Even when the SP sucks and the multiplayer is where the real fun is at?

I hate it when people go straight to multiplayer, really f**** me off. I don't even bother with multiplayer and if I do, I make sure I finish the single player first.

Venom_Raptor

Oh people don't play games like you so it pisses you off? Get over yourself.

Good. Shooters don't need single player. It's like story mode in fighting games... who the hell cares?

Maybe the money they save by cutting out the horrible narrative can go towards making a shooter that doesn't have awful mechanics for the first time since 1999.

I find it hard to believe they will used the money saved by not adding SP into improving mp. Also I do not think they will lower the price of the game. The best part of all this is that are acting as if what they want to do is really what the gamers want.

pretty dissapointed to find that out. i like playing the sp campaign of fps almost as much as i like the mp portion.

First of all, it's one game and don't forget, Sony had Warhawk which was MP only.  People only play MP in shooters clearly designed for the MP with a tacked on SP (i.e. BF3 and COD, though at least some of the COD campaigns weren't bad).  It all depends on what type of game it is.  Bioshock doesn't benefit from MP, as they found in the 2nd game and eventually getting rid of it in Infinite. 

Basically, if a game is designed for MP then there's a good chance the SP won't be as good and same goes for games made for SP with a tacked on MP (Tomb Raider).  Then there are the few times when devs get both modes done really well (recently, The Last of Us, KZ2/3, and Halo 4 have done this).

So I don't think it's really the consumers fault as much as developers tacking on things that don't fit for their particular game and then they blame everyone else when it isn't played.  At least these guys are coming out and saying they have no interest in a tacked on SP (granted, I don't like how they're blaming players for not playing a mode that will never exist).

It's not entirely the players' fault. Singleplayer campaigns in FPS don't offer much if you ask me. You can get through them extremely quick. You get some foreign threat you have to take on and then you play through several action pieces. The end. Devs need to up their work and get more creative like Bioshock.

Or if you want to be conventional, I think of a game I played a few years ago. I remember enjoying Bad Company's single player. It let you play through different areas in a progressing story and try out a few vehicles and all that, but there was a lot of fun characters and banter. More of that please.

common sense, but you could argue that a hyper-linear scripted ride is going to be the absolute worst bang for your development buck. If they made an open world shooter, you can drastically increase player game time over an equivalent area. In other words: game devolopers can be smarter with single player games. nutcrackr

I find open world shooters are the worse shooters out there. The more linear shooters are better. I would play any of the CoD games once more over palying Far Cry 3 a second time.

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I hate it when people go straight to multiplayer, really f**** me off. I don't even bother with multiplayer and if I do, I make sure I finish the single player first.

CarnageHeart

Even when the SP sucks and the multiplayer is where the real fun is at?

If the single player sucks I won't get the game, simple as that. I won't get a game for multiplayer.

Great news to me!

Now more effort can be put into making a balanced and bug-free multiplayer experience. If only more games took this approach. 

Great news to me!

 

Now more effort can be put into making a balanced and bug-free multiplayer experience. If only more games took this approach. 

cejay0813

Can does not mean that they will.

The original Halo trilogy is a set of video games with good single player modes. I intend to eventually get an Xbox 360 just for the Halo trilogy I mentioned in my previous statement and keep it as part of my collection because of the single player campaigns, so some video games feature great single player and multiplayer modes.

Good. Shooters don't need single player. It's like story mode in fighting games... who the hell cares?

Maybe the money they save by cutting out the horrible narrative can go towards making a shooter that doesn't have awful mechanics for the first time since 1999.

syztem

I have no interest in Titanfall but Titanfall certainly doesn't need a single player campaign. It looks to be specifically aimed at COD/BF players. Appeal to a specific audience is a good thing. It's a bad thing when a dev tries to appeal to every type of gamer with the same game.

Single player games with a tacked on multiplayer like God Of War, Tomb Raider or a multiplayer driven game with crap single player like COD games. Not every game needs to be aimed at every gamer. I hope to see more specific focused games like Dark Souls and Titanfall next gen versus the 'let's appeal to everybody' crap.

It's not our fault the SP in the CoD games suck, the only decent one was CoD4, after that it was the same crap over and over again. Hell at least the SP in BF3 was pretty looking even though it was copying the SP from CoD.

Hats off to Levine for making Bioshock Infinite with no tacked on multiplayer despite my disappointment with the actual campaign. I can only imagine how epic Mass effect 3 could have really been if the focus was geared strictly towards the campaign which is why everyone wanted to play it in the first place.

Don't blame me for it! I do play single player games (even with tacked on single player in an multiplayer focused games as well). I'm not shocked by the news at all. I'd rather see an only online multiplayer game & actually turn out to be pretty good. No single player mode vs tacked on single player with little to zero effort? Take your pick. I've zero interest in Titanfall for it's just COD/BF meets Mobile Suit Gundam.

That whole online multiplayer FPS genre holds zero interest for me. Yet the entire nucleus of the industry is centered around it. That's pretty much why I switched to PC gaming - I'd rather go back and play single-player favorites from this gen with better graphics, frame rates and mod's - than bother with this pwn the noob and teabag him nonsense.

Jackc8

Couldn't have said it better myself

I know this thread is a couple months old but i gotta chime in because i too, miss the good single player campaign in FPS games. i have a serious question tho - what is it you guys like about the multiplayer ? I have tried to get into it but frankly it the other players that ruin it for me. I use to be hardcore into battlefield 1942 when it came out but in recent years this has been my experiance with EVERY MP game i have tried to play: first off, live chat - always some DB that wont stop talking, is an ego maniac, its has to just blame blame blame until i cant take thier mouth anymore and quit. Or, i get a 13year old with a headset saying "i am going to stand on the hood of this car - you drive and i will try to stay on" - its always something and it just ruins it for me. There is no story at all so its just shoot shoot shoot. Respawn, and listen to a-holes run thier mouths. No matter what game, thats my experiance. I spend more time trying to find a game with no annoying people then playing so i just stopped playing. What is it you guys like about that ?

Bah we had MMO's for years yet we still get single player games.