Witcher 3 overrated. Nowhere near Skyrim

Oh Jesus Christ.....

They're completely different games. Great job not understanding that.

I eagerly anticipate your next thread that Tetris is no Fallout 3.

@colbycadwell: I don't have any loading screens.

I don't know if it's because I'm older, but alot of the new open world games doesn't seem to interest me anymore. I prefer my games to be a little more linear now I guess that's why I love mass effect, dark souls games and j-rpgs.

Sorry witcher 3 craps all over skyrim, it's not even a competition. I just don't understand the point of Skyrim it's just one of those "you entertain yourself" games all you do is run around some no name random character in editor that doesn't talk.

@Jacanuk: ... Where and what corners did they have to cut in witcher 3? The most flushed out game in forever and it has more content than most Rpgs, the content is varied aswell. I am really puzzled.

Go back to playing Skyrim. The Witcher 3 is too complex for you.

Yeah, people don't seem to understand that. Just play the game you like.

You have to have some loading screens whenever you fast-travel. But, it's the same for every open-world game that use fast-travel, be it Far Cry 3 or 4, Watch Dogs, and GTA V.

It's no big deal though.

1) Velen + Novigrad are larger than original Skyrim map and no loading screen at dungeons and houses. Not to mention loading screens at travelling in Forgotten Vale and Soltsheim, which is analogue to
White Orchars, King Palace at Vizima and Skellige archipelag. So it is like you are picking.

2) It is the matter of taste and I am afraid it can be bad of yours. TW3 is on its own league in quest design. Skyrim can't even touch it.

3) To see awesome 1st person try Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. Skyrim one is pure mediocricity.

4) Leveling and skills in TW3 are somewhat spoiled indeed IMO.

I know this late, but the sheer amount of ignorance and fanboyism coming from your mouth is unbearable.

1. First off, The Witcher 3 has been confirmed to be bigger the Skyrim, in face many times bigger, you can go look at any of the hundreds of forums and comparisons on the internet.

2. Secondly, Skyrim did not have great quests and anyone saying that is a liar, they never amounted to anything more than go here and get this for that person. Witcher 3's quests are varied and always have amazing dialogue and seemingly small choices that can have big consequences. They also are never just simple fetch quests like Skyrim.

3. Well I do agree that combat in the Witcher is a bit limited, its like that to fit the lore, and it could be argued that Skyrims combat, especially sword combat, isn't any better, as it always results in standing there with your shield up and smashing the attack button.

4. I don't care about the leveling system. Thats the only subjective thing on this list.

This is one of the first games this year that lived up to its hype, and considering you're one of the only ones whining about it, then thats just more proof of how awesome this game is.

When I played Skyrim I felt like I was in the game. I never felt that in Witcher 3. Plus the mini map in witcher 3 had my eyes glued to it more then my surroundings and that played a huge role in feeling disconnected to the world, among other things. Skyrim had the perfect way point.

I cant wait for the next elder scrolls game.

Witcher 3 definitely has better quests and writing. That's not even an opinion.

Combat is pretty mediocre in both games. Might give the slight edge to Skyrim.

@malicsumbrey: While I can understand that you were late for this thread but this thread is one month old as it is but it would have been easy if you'll just made a new thread and not bump this one. Feel free and I be happy to contribute :P

@colbycadwell: Which version are you playing it for?

I really loved both games, I think Skyrim might give me more hours, simply because it has more character development options...that' sorta where it's superiority ends. The W3 has far more detailed and interesting world. Quest design is absolutely fantastic, it take simple quests and made them fun. It graphics of course are superior. It's voice work is superior. It's story and dialogue is much better. Combat is by far superior to Skyrim. Skyrim I think is still better at exploration I think and it has better crafting. All in all I rate W3 higher but they are both fine games.

Disagree. The clunky UI and controls made Skyrim far too unpleasant to play. Tried to spice it up with GFX mods and all that **** and still couldn't be interested in the game. CDPR is the new king of open world RPGs at the moment imo, I even got my GF hooked on it and she's no gamer that's for sure :P

I also enjoy the combat A LOT more than Skyrims boring FPS flailing.

I know the points I'm about to make have already been covered in some of the previous posts, but I figured I'd throw my hat in the ring for team Witcher.

Skyrim was a great game. It had a huge open and varied world that was especially impressive back in 2010. But for me, Witcher 3 is a vast improvement for several reasons.

First and foremost, I play RPGs for the roleplay aspect, and Witcher 3 does a far better job of this than Skyrim. Geralt, along with most of the major NPCs, are well written and fleshed out characters with their own personalities and motivations. By comparison, most of the characters in Skyrim are pretty shallow. The quests in Witcher 3 are also more fleshed out. I had a real sense of purpose on the main and side quests with the Witcher 3, and felt motivated to complete them, whether it was find a missing friend, lift a curse, reunite lost loved ones, or remove a lingering threat from a village. Some of Skyrim's quests were excellent, but many of them were simply fetch quests that lacked much in the way of story driven motivation.

Combat in Witcher 3 may not be as precise as, say, Dark Souls, or as fluid as the Batman games, but it is a huge improvement over Skyrim's extremely simplistic system. Fights can be approached in multiple ways, and on higher difficulties careful preparation and even research is needed to take down bigger threats. Fights against legendary mythical creatures feel momentous - you really get the impression that only a Witcher, with his sword, alchemy, research and sign skills, is capable of taking down the contract monsters. Compare this to the dragons in Skyrim, which while initially impressive quickly become repetitive with little to differentiate them from one another.

As others have already pointed out, one big flaw of Skyrim (and many other rpgs) is that the enemies scale with you, which detracts from the sense of progression, and arguably punishes you from investing in non-combat centric builds. The Witcher 3 has one of the best solutions to level scaling I've ever seen in the game. Enemies don't scale with you, but the tougher enemies and quests are clearly labeled as such, preventing you from accidently stumbling into scenarios that you are not yet equipped to deal with. You are, however, free to take on challenges way above your level if you so desire, which I think is great and adds to the sense of freedom.

The overall main plot in the Witcher is SO much better than Skyrim's, in terms of length, depth, and detail. To me that point is not even subjective. Skyrim's main plot was fine, but was overall too short and not especially memorable.

The Witcher 3 also captures meaningful player choice much more effectively than Skyrim (and most other RPGs). As others have said, many quest lines have multiple outcomes, some of which are outright 'quest failed'. Choices made early in the game can have unexpected impacts later in a story, and even skipping a side quest entirely can have important ramifications. Skyrim has almost no examples of this.

Is the Witcher 3 'bigger' than Skyrim? I think it is hard to tell, but I'df argue that the map has much more content and variety built into it. As I travelled around the world, I was constantly running into small events, some of which would lead to side quests. After a while Skyrim's open world felt relatively empty by comparison.

The Witcher 3 is not without it's flaws of course. Crafting is overly cumbersome (as it is in most games). The font is unnecessarily small. Too many female NPCs are dressed like male fantasies, flashing too much cleavage even when it is completely out of character. But overall I think it is an incredibly well polished title that does a fantastic job of balancing open exploration, a detailed and lengthy story, meaningful side quests, monster hunting, and a reasonably interesting combat system. I had a lot of fun with DA:I last year, but for my money Witcher 3 is the best RPG of this gen s far, and is shaping up to be one of the best games of all time.

Skyrim is also overrated.

Skyrim's just a shooter with a fantasy/medieval skin. That's why it was so popular. Even Fallout is more of an RPG than Skyrim due to the VATS system. I haven't played the Witcher 3 but if it's like the 2nd one then I don't really want to.

Witcher 3 was okay but Elder Scrolls is much better. I got bored with Witcher 3 fairly quickly after completing most of the quests.

The Witcher 3 doesn't constantly lag and freeze, so that alone makes it far superior to Skyrim. Seriously, **** the PS3 version of that game and **** Bethesda for taking my $60 and giving me an unfinished buggy piece of horseshit.

@ariabed:

10 hours isn't long enough to see what Red did with their story branching. Which sets the bar for Story Narrative, as well as for cause and effect, storytelling. Danny O'dwyer made a whole 'Point' episode about it, as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDvGF8E4DrY&index=6&list=PLpg6WLs8kxGN4Lz_LpvDgO5XuBCkD9Bej

@Byshop: I agree with everyone you said. Skyrim was great, but I feel the Witcher 3 is what an RPG should be. The way I feel CD Project Red and Bioware merge WRPG and JRPG. Offering exploration, faster combat but with the narrative of a JRPG. Bethesda is PURE WRPG where theirs next to no story, but has it's own perks in it's own right.

Witcher 3 right now is the Pinnacle of RPG's. I love Biowares stuff too, I LOVE Mass Effect to death. But the Witcher 3 is a better RPG than any other right now.

i have near 300 hours combined with both games and the witcher is better in my opinion. i do miss the variety of spells and the upgrade tree from skyrim but nothing else. witcher beats it in every way.

I don't get why people are saying this. I'm not the biggest fan of Skyrim, but the only shooting in Skyrim is archery. There are no guns in Skyrim and just because you have the option to view from a first person perspective doesn't make it some wannabe shooter taking place in a fictional medieval setting. Come on, guys.

Another thing I really like about Witcher 3 over Skyrim is that you can enter and exit buildings with no loading screens. Seriously. Anytime you went into a house or shop in Skyrim, you'd have to wait six and a half years for the loading screen. Speaking of waiting, I love the meditation feature in Witcher. It passes time much quicker than the "Wait" feature in Skyrim.

I am going to be a complete idiot here and ignore most of this conversation to post my two cents, so if I step over points or anything, I apologize. I am writing this at the point of complete laziness (and the fact I am completely worn out).

I have played Skyrim for about 200 complete hours, The Witcher about half that (my love for Batman stole most of my time). That being said, I have a hard time debating this. Mainly because Skyrim, and Oblivion absorb me in ways I cannot exactly explain. I connect with the world a lot better than most games. It was also the first RPG experience I ever felt a kin to. It was actually fun, and I felt like I was a piece. That being said, The Witcher 3 has it's own merits that are equally hard to measure (and judge). Morally speaking, the game is one of the deepest, most emotional games I have ever played. Decision making is vast, different, and refreshing. I have had several conversations with my friends, who have done the EXACT same quests as me, and have went COMPLETELY different paths. Things like this make the game so interesting, and diverse.

But deep down, in debating which game is better than which game, I can only sit here and be glad that both of these games were made. For every Skryim (or The Witcher) we have 100 crap games that repeat trends that completely disconnect me.

So, in closing, I like both games, equally.

It takes more from the FPS genre than it does from the RPG genre. If you won't call Skyrim a shooter, then you must call Dead Island or similar an RPG. Do you do that, and if not, why not? You've already disqualified the fantasy/medieval setting as a requirement.

@so_hai: It takes more from the FPS genre? How? And no, being able to view from first person doesn't count. Give me other, more valid reasons.

The witcher is my kind of thing. I love TES, but for some reason I couldn't really get into Skyrim that much. Im surprised this thread is still alive lol.

I agree

From my experience The Witcher 3 is superior to Skyrim in combat, storytelling and the sense of adventure which Skyrim could never achieve. The voice acting is also superb, something which skyrim lacked in. The music is amazing

@gamerguru100: I asked you a question first - I'll answer yours when you've answered mine.

Weird thing I've observed reading this thread - were most people playing Skyrim in 3rd person? Seems so weird to me - I've always played TES in 1st person

125 hrs into Witcher 3 here.

1. Witcher 3 is bigger than Skyrim. I don't know where you get the idea that its not. It may seem smaller because main areas are partitioned from each other with the exception of Velen and Novigrad. The only advantage Skyrim has when it comes to geography is the ability to maneuver the terrain. Its a pain trying to get Geralt to stray from level ground.
2. This is a very subjective statement. My opinion, however, is in favor of Witcher 3. Individual contracts, side missions and secondary quests have detailed and lore-filled backstories to them. Some of the trivial missions can lead to large game-changing events that may adversely affect the moments leading to the conclusion. I had to weigh my decisions carefully in the Witcher series as whole...even more so in the third game. Skyrim had a lot of side quests but some were repetitive and , except for select few moments, I didn't feel any type of urgency or caution to the decisions I made.
3. Again, an entirely subjective stance. Witcher 3 was designed from the ground up to be a third-person game. Faulting it for being in 3rd person is a bit strange. Would you fault The Elder Scrolls series for being optimized for 1st person gameplay with horrible and awkward 3rd person animations?
4. The Witcher offers upgrade paths to invest your points in but upgrade points become harder and harder to attain so you have to carefully choose if you want to specialize in a skilll and be powerful at it, or spread out your points and become a well-rounded but average build. If by some chance you get to a point where you acquire enough points to unlock every skill, you only have a limited amount of slots you can utilize to activate a given skill. Also, unlike oblivion and Skyrim, leveling in the Witcher actually feels like progress since enemies do not scale with you.

My personal opinion; Witcher 3 is the far better game when it comes to being well-rounded and engaging the player through the game via gameplay, story, audio and visuals.

Skyrim, on the other hand, is a fun game to goof around with. Especially with all the community support....but it doesn't really hold my interest for too long. I usually just toy around with it for a few minutes at a time when I find an interesting mod...and then move on to something else.

@so_hai: I haven't played Dead Island, so I couldn't tell you. And I'll say again, Skyrim is no "shooter" because it has a first person view. That's just a fact.

Get back to me when guns get patched into the game. Oh wait...

@xantufrog: I always played Skyrim in first person mode too. Third person is terrible. Archery sucks and so does picking stuff up and talking to people in third person. First person is way more immersive.

Look you might think is not better that is your opinion and is fine but trying to justify it with false facts ?

You said is not as open world as Skyrim where as the 2 main maps not just 1 but 2 maps ( velen and Skelige ) of W3 are bigger than skyrims single map. Also imo Skelige is the most well designed ,most beautiful and most impressive map i've seen in an open world game

I could add, that the game isnt sticking to the lore, the original world was way more xenophobic, sexist, if a human was in danger from an scoiatel witcher was generally supposed to kill those like they kill monsters. The story is mediocre it doesnt rly have more than a few interesting turns. You can see that its made to fit currant affairs and to be politcaly acceptable. Playing the first and second game I was at least able to made choices like a true witcher sticking to his code, in 3rd its impossible. It really pisses me that the devs messed the lore so much, also these topics about gays or similar stuff, that dont really fit there, at least its not full of such like Divinity dragon commander was, coas that game was making me wanna puke, Im not homophobic or w/e but why these topics are present everywhere I look, I dont want to be spammed with such crap, Im just not interested??? Itll cost me some pain to finish the game some time from now, but for now I Im taking a break, Im about 50% done with the story, rest Ill do when I dont have anything to play. I guess for someone who doesnt care about the books, which I enjoyed like crazy when I was a teenager, this game can be considered very good, 8/10, for me its max 6/10 and leaves me disapointed. Indeed Skyrim is way way better. Last thing, the devs are trying to be thinking out of the box and the fixes they make, when fk smth up, they give u potion, that lets u find a gear they made unusable for u in previous patch, this is the most obvious example but it shows that these people mustve spend some of the game budget on blow and prostitues, to help them be more creative.

The Witcher 3 is an engrossing story with well-written dialogue, a satisfying plot, characters with defined characteristics and story arcs, challenging game-play and satisfying combat and takes place in a gorgeous semi open-world that feels alive and has varied lush, landscapes.

It is superior in every way to Skyrim bar the fact it has loading screens and is a series of 3 interconnected mini-open worlds, rather than the one giant open with nothing interesting in it, of Skyrim.

Skyrim is the most overrated game of last generation. It is barely a video game, but is a brilliant first person interactive environment explorer. Dragon's Dogma, The Witcher 2, Dark Souls, Demon's Souls, Resonance of Fate, Oblivion, Fallout 3/New Vegas, Dark Souls 2, Ni No Kuni, Lost Odyssey & Nier were all far superior RPGs to Skyrim from last gen. Skyrim just got caught up in this media buzz of being the definitive game for a new generation of video gamers, that don't actually like playing video games or being challenged.

I could have more enjoyment playing real-life Skyrim by going into the local woods near my house after taping a saucepan lid to my arm and finding a pointy stick to lifelessly slap against things to simulate sword fighting, than I could from actually playing Skyrim.

It is far inferior to both Morrowind & Oblivion, has no soul and barely has any game-play to speak of whatsoever. Skyrim is an endless chore of repetitive nothingness. There is nothing in Skyrim even remotely as compelling as the Bloody Baron or Possession side quests in The Witcher 3, nothing.

i like both alot

@phbz: "The thing about Skyrim IMO is that it lets you explore a realm of fantasy. And even the most casual player in the world can enjoy doing so without any kind of challenge. The Witcher combat alone will put many people out of the game. 1st because it will offer a challenge to the casual player, 2nd because even more experienced players will criticise it because it doesn't emulates other known fighting mechanics.

So they hate it because it takes skill, nice to now.

@i-rock-socks: Everything is worse in Skyrim.

@Pedro: @i-rock-socks: Everything is worse in Skyrim.

Morrowind, Fallout 1, Fallout 2, Baldur's Gate 2, etc.... all are far older than Skyrim and all are far better than Skyrim. That was such a lazy argument from you.

I read a few comments, not all of them. But I have to say I loved Skyrim so I might be a little Biased, but I do love a lot of other games too. I've bought Hitman Series and even Forza, I've watched others play Sleeping dogs and GTA and played on their accounts and had a blast(even when I didn't know what I was doing half the time). But I bought witcher 3 when it was first released and played two hours and was bored out of my mind, I had only just left the tutorials and I quit. Then I played Skyrim and had fun for a month until I eventually got bored of skyrim again(Because I've played it so much that I know almost all of the quests now) So I played Witcher 3 again until I got half way through White Orchard on just 4 hours of game play(Thats about 6 hours total, maybe more) Got bored quit and played Skyrim and even a few new games (Far Cry 4) I had to download a program just to play Farcry 4 on my small gaming PC and I played the whole thing and beat it in like 2 weeks which is saying something because I have three busy jobs and I LOVE sleep. So suddenly I go to play TW3 again, FORCING myself to play it, telling myself it will get better I didn't waste my precious $$, well I'd say I'm about 20 hours in and I'm bored to death. Half of them time I'm running to the next 'movie clip' about Geralt's life that I haven't fully been filled in about, then NPC's ask me a bunch of questions and I have no idea what I'm replying with, I just randomly pick some of the answers they have available, but they don't even let you know if you're being sarcastic half the time or if you're even being honest and then he'll start to talk and I've pissed someone off(though the npc is usually forced to smother their anger because, thus, the show must go on) then I decide to venture away from the main plot and run back and forth and attack bandits and find frying pans and Who Burnt Down Ole Willy's Shop! They're almost all so easy, in Skyrim you had to point and shoot and if you hit a friendly well you'd be SOOOO screwed! So you'd run away from the man who took an arrow in the knee(Who's surprisingly fast considering his apparent injury....) it was also challenging getting to some of those caves, and I'll admit I've had some bad jump scares with Draugur and I thought I might sh*t myself or have a heart attack... or both at times. Plus Giant Spiders are scary enough.... And that isn't even the main villian(Alduin) in the game! I have yet to sh*t myself in witcher... it's very predictable and not scary or amusing. It is a little charming, but only because Geralt has an awesome bod- er... character.

I do like the horse feature, but then occasionally the horse runs off the path into the wilderness in the middle of wolves while you're patiently holding down A because the camera is so wonky and confusing you can't even steer right. Oh.... and my 'movie' clips are horrible... their lips never match and I've tried highest settings Graphics and it's worse than when I put it on Lowest settings and it's not even close to being right, I've messed with everything and can't seem to get it to work, and yet I got Farcry 4 to work? it's just a little agravating. It just feels like my computer is willing me to not like this game, and I have to say a few good points are:

The storyline is very realistic and believable(Skyrim... not so much) Geralt is an amazing character and I love his sarcasm(Though not when I'M trying to be serious) I like how they play everyone's voice and how, when you respond, he actually talks(One of the things I hated about Skyrim was that it was just words no voice), the graphics on high makes the whole thing beautiful(until they start dialog with 15% over lap of silence and a moving mouth).

I'm bummed. the trailer made me feel like it was going to be very open with a less controlling approach and you were just going to basically run around and kill griffins(Even though they are beautiful creatures-They must die for my virtual entertainment!!) but mostly you run around and kill ghouls and wild dogs/wolves and then get stuck in a mini movie clip..... I feel like I just paid $60 dollars for Neverwinter(Which is free and less laggy than witcher 3 on my computer) Oh and more fun and easy to understand.

My Point: Whether it's 1 hour in or 100 hours, a really good game should draw you in and you shouldn't feel like you're forcing yourself to play. It's an OK game in my opinion but it ranges on a 5 from 1-10 for me and Farcry was a 9, Skyrim was probably a 20, only because it was awesome and I didn't expect it to be that awesome, but this is all just my opinion.

I didn´t said that.

@Planeforger You can't find anything wrong with Witcher, yet you can't make any claim of how it's better. Just a bunch of crap bashing Skyrim. 800 hours into Skyrim, and I can't put it down when I start p[laying. I've loaded up Witcher 3, 3 times, and couldn't get more than 12 hours into it before I gave up. I fell asleep at the wheel once already. Comparing the deepness and size to GTA5 is lame. GTA5 is about as deep as a puddle. 90% of the City is asthetic and un-usable. This garbage game has been the same since the first installment. Huge map with nothing to do, except a linear story. The music tracks are the best part of the game. Fallout and Skyrim easily take a dump on Witcher. It's no contest. Put this game in the overrated bin, with The Last of Us. You want to read, and look at flashy colors, then Witcher is your game. You want to have an open world game, with endless hours of things to do, and the ability to create a character in your own view? Then pick up Skyrim. Witcher was a straight up waste of $60. Come on Fallout 4!!