Tom Brady > Peyton Manning

Well the topic says it all, Tom Brady owns Peyton Manning

I do not see how anybody in their right game after the way the Colts played yesterday, could ever pick Peyton Manning over Tom Brady

Peyton Manning Failed to beat a team, that did not have their top 3 Stars on Offense playing and yet he failed to get the job done and that is Pathetic

If that would have been Tom Brady at QB, he would have lead his team to victory, but it is not a Suprise that Peyton Manning choked again in a big game, he has been a known Choke Artist ever since his College Days

Let's look at a few of his low moments from College, he never could beat Florida, lost to them all 4 years. his last game of his college career in a Bowl game, he played very horrible and did not play worthy of being a Number 1 overall draft choice

Then his Pro low moments, now I realize he won a Super Bowl last year, but if New England would have had their current WR's, that they have this year, they would have lost to New England, the level of Competition was very weak that they faced in the playoffs

They faceda horrible QB in the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman

Peyton Manning has never beat New England at their place in the playoffs and he has only beat Tom Brady 1 time in the playoffs

Bottom Line is Tom Brady is a better QB and he delivers in big moments and big games and Peyton Manning chokes

The stubborn jackass in me wants to say "lol shut up n00b, Brady is teh overratedness!", but deep down I know it to be true. This is of course the same stubborn jackass that still believes in David Carr, but cries on the inside because he doesn't want to admit Carr's ultimate suckiness.

But in defense of Peyton, you are putting entirely too much emphasis on a QB winning or losing the game. How did the Colt defense play? They were the ones taking on the backup QB, backup RB, and banged-up TE, not Peyton. They were the side of the team that gave up 411 yards. If Peyton choked, the Colt defense was gagged, strangled, and had it's head stuck under a pillow for too long.

We all know that this isn't the first time Peyton chokes. Having a defense ranked first most of the year in points alowed and sudenly crashing with a "backup" offense is just unexplainable. That Colt defense is monsterous, so much speed. They just blew up and created too much holes. So yes there is a big part of the defense that lost them the game. But what I think he is trying to get by is about 4-5 games Brady did lead them in the 4th quarter to score. Two td drives in the last 9 mintues vs the Colts. Manning had plenty of time, and one timeout. All he had to do was do what he did all game. Wayne and Clark.

And a sidenote, Clark should of tried harder to catch that ball.

If you guys remember, the year that Peyton Manning left for the Pros, the next year Tennessee won a National Championship and beat Florida with a QB named, Tee Martin and he done what Peyton failed to do his entire career in collegeRvdecwthug1976

Yeah and LSU won with Matt Flynn over OSU after Jamarcus Russell left. Don't know what this has to do with Peyton's NFL career.

Here come the Peyton haters. As of now, Brady is better than Manning, but some of you are making it seem like Peyton is holding his team back. He is a close second to Brady, not light-years away.haloraider

This Union is full of Brady haters, so whatever.

Oh and this thread isn't really needed.

Everyone knows Brady is a better QB than Manning.

The problem is that Manning is more loved as a person.
I have no idea why, but he is.

Here come the Peyton haters. As of now, Brady is better than Manning, but some of you are making it seem like Peyton is holding his team back. He is a close second to Brady, not light-years away.haloraider

Exactly. The Colts loss was because of their defense who couldn't stopped a backup RB and a injured Antonio Gates. Also, if it wouldn't have been of 2 bad lucky INT and that dumb Harrison fumble, the Colts would have won. Oh I forgot, Dallas Clark should have made that catch at the end of the game.

I hate New England but I have to say Brady is one of the best of all time.

Well the topic says it all, Tom Brady owns Peyton Manning

I do not see how anybody in their right game after the way the Colts played yesterday, could ever pick Peyton Manning over Tom Brady

Peyton Manning Failed to beat a team, that did not have their top 3 Stars on Offense playing and yet he failed to get the job done and that is Pathetic

If that would have been Tom Brady at QB, he would have lead his team to victory, but it is not a Suprise that Peyton Manning choked again in a big game, he has been a known Choke Artist ever since his College Days

Let's look at a few of his low moments from College, he never could beat Florida, lost to them all 4 years. his last game of his college career in a Bowl game, he played very horrible and did not play worthy of being a Number 1 overall draft choice

Then his Pro low moments, now I realize he won a Super Bowl last year, but if New England would have had their current WR's, that they have this year, they would have lost to New England, the level of Competition was very weak that they faced in the playoffs

They faceda horrible QB in the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman

Peyton Manning has never beat New England at their place in the playoffs and he has only beat Tom Brady 1 time in the playoffs

Bottom Line is Tom Brady is a better QB and he delivers in big moments and big games and Peyton Manning chokes

Rvdecwthug1976

Why do you hate Peyton so much? It's just a game dude.

Well hell if I had the offensive line and wide receiver core that Brady did, I'd throw 30 TDs as well. Remember, Marvin Harrison was injured for a better portion of the season and he's a top guy. But lets look at some stats:

Tom Brady in his 8 year career has 2 four thousand yard seasons
Peyton has 8 of those in his 10 seasons, 6 of them in a row

Brady has a QB rating for his career of 92.9
Peyton has a career rating of 94.7

Brady has a career completion percent of 63 percent
Peyton has a career completion percent of 64.2

While Brady may of had 50 TDs this year passing, he never has had more than 30 TDs in any other season
Peyton has had 4 of those 30 plus TD seasons one being the previous record of 49

Brady has 1 MVP award and 4 Pro Bowl Selections
Peyton has 2 MVP awards and 8 Pro Bowl Selections

Now I'm not saying Brady isn't a good QB cause he is but Peyton is solid. Many great quarterbacks have never done the great job in the post season, such as Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, and lets not forget it took John Elway several tries to get his ring.

Now the argument saying Tom's better and would have won the super bowl last year because he didn't have the WR weapons we have now is one crappy argument and here is why. If Peyton had Moss, and Welker with Harrison and Clark and Wayne, he'd be throwing for more than 5000 yards and more than 50 TDs. It's just Tom Brady's good fortune that their GM snatched up some top WRs like that, hell any QB could be a star if they had that kind of talent around them.

Now saying Peyton isn't a worthy number one choice is one hell of an asinine statement seeing all the stats he has compiled, the awards he has one and the super bowl ring he has brought to Indy, he turned that team around from a lower tier team of the late 90s to a top caliber, playoff team every year. And the fact that year in and out that Indy plays a harder schedule seeing as their division is alot harder than what the Patriots have to deal with.

Overall, Peyton still is the better QB, although Brady this year bettered him, he hasn't had many statistical seasons that compare to Peyton and last time I checked, the numbers Peyton put up against the Bolts were damn impressive, the fact their defense couldn't stop the Bolts on any drive is not his fault which by the way, helps Brady in his winningdue to the Pats better defense than the Colts.

Well hell if I had the offensive line and wide receiver core that Brady did, I'd throw 30 TDs as well. Remember, Marvin Harrison was injured for a better portion of the season and he's a top guy. But lets look at some stats:

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Now the argument saying Tom's better and would have won the super bowl last year because he didn't have the WR weapons we have now is one crappy argument and here is why. If Peyton had Moss, and Welker with Harrison and Clark and Wayne, he'd be throwing for more than 5000 yards and more than 50 TDs. It's just Tom Brady's good fortune that their GM snatched up some top WRs like that, hell any QB could be a star if they had that kind of talent around them. midgetman007

Good post. Those are all impressive stats for Manning.

When looking at the numbers, one must consider: Manning has had a first-ballot HOF WR on his team his entire career. He's had a better # 2 WR for most of it too. Brady just got his HOF'er this season.

Manning has always had a top-tier running back throughout his entire career: Faulk, James, Addai. These are a QB's best friend. Brady has lacked friends of that caliber throughout his career.

These 2 sets of facts inflate Manning's numbers in this debate.

Another stat: Brady, 3 rings; Manning, 1.

Well hell if I had the offensive line and wide receiver core that Brady did, I'd throw 30 TDs as well. Remember, Marvin Harrison was injured for a better portion of the season and he's a top guy. But lets look at some stats:

Tom Brady in his 8 year career has 2 four thousand yard seasons
Peyton has 8 of those in his 10 seasons, 6 of them in a row

Brady has a QB rating for his career of 92.9
Peyton has a career rating of 94.7

Brady has a career completion percent of 63 percent
Peyton has a career completion percent of 64.2

While Brady may of had 50 TDs this year passing, he never has had more than 30 TDs in any other season
Peyton has had 4 of those 30 plus TD seasons one being the previous record of 49

Brady has 1 MVP award and 4 Pro Bowl Selections
Peyton has 2 MVP awards and 8 Pro Bowl Selections

Now I'm not saying Brady isn't a good QB cause he is but Peyton is solid. Many great quarterbacks have never done the great job in the post season, such as Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, and lets not forget it took John Elway several tries to get his ring.

Now the argument saying Tom's better and would have won the super bowl last year because he didn't have the WR weapons we have now is one crappy argument and here is why. If Peyton had Moss, and Welker with Harrison and Clark and Wayne, he'd be throwing for more than 5000 yards and more than 50 TDs. It's just Tom Brady's good fortune that their GM snatched up some top WRs like that, hell any QB could be a star if they had that kind of talent around them.

Now saying Peyton isn't a worthy number one choice is one hell of an asinine statement seeing all the stats he has compiled, the awards he has one and the super bowl ring he has brought to Indy, he turned that team around from a lower tier team of the late 90s to a top caliber, playoff team every year. And the fact that year in and out that Indy plays a harder schedule seeing as their division is alot harder than what the Patriots have to deal with.

Overall, Peyton still is the better QB, although Brady this year bettered him, he hasn't had many statistical seasons that compare to Peyton and last time I checked, the numbers Peyton put up against the Bolts were damn impressive, the fact their defense couldn't stop the Bolts on any drive is not his fault which by the way, helps Brady in his winningdue to the Pats better defense than the Colts.

midgetman007

The bottom line is Tom Brady has won more with Less while Peyton Manning has won less with more on his team on Offense

To say that any QB can be a Star with any group of WR's is dumb as well, Tom Brady proved he can win without Star Receivers, he won 3 Superbowls, without Moss and Welker and the first 2 Superbowls he won, he did not have much of a running game

The Patriots have played a tough schedule as well this year, they own Victories over 7 of the 12 teams that made the playoffs and if they beat Green Bay in the Super Bowl, that would have been 8 of 12 playoff teams, that they own a victory over this year, so the comment about the Patriots schedule being weak, does not hold much weight at all

I'm not going to lie, yes he has had those weapons at his dispoaal just like Tom has had this year, we all know Harrison and Wayne have been essential to his sucess, Harrison and Manning is one of the best tandums in all of football up there with Rice and Young, Clayton and Marino, and Reed and Kelly. He has also had good running backs around him but that's not to say Brady hasn't either, he has had solid backs especially Maroney who is developing quite nice. The success though for Brady has been greatly helped by a better defense than the Colts and a better offense line.It's a fact that Brady has had a better o-line and defense than Peyton has had thus making them winning the super bowl easier for them. If Peyton had the great defense that Brady had than it'd be a different tunemidgetman007

The Colts defense has been pretty decent the last few years and their O-line is nothing to scoff at.

The simple truth is Brady has done more with less. If the Patriots go on to being 19-0 than that means Brady with have 4 SB rings and will be the same league as the all-time greats.

Manning can't touch that with a ten foot pole no matter how matter stats he puts up.

If Tom Brady leads the Patriots to another Super Bowl victory, thus achieving 19-0, and even if he doesnt win the SB MVP, he will go down in history as the only QB to go 19-0 surpassing those Phins who played mediocre teams during the years they went undefeated, join the ranks of Bradshaw and Montana with 4 SB, and for sure solidify his position as one of the top 5 QB's of all time.

He broke Manning's prized passing records in a single season, he has the best Playoff passing percentage ever, and he is Mr. Clutch.

Manning is good, but he doesnt win like Brady does.

Once again look at the divisions they play in, the Pats have a lot easier of a road to the playoffs then what the Colts have to go through.

Also I know Peyton has had solid D's and solid O-lines but they have never been anything as good as what Brady has had, lets look at last year, they had a bad defense but stepped up during the playoffs and played a major part in their win, this is true for Brady, a QB doesn't win a game, it's the entire team, times when the Colts have lost haven't been in part of Peyton's play but because the other parts of the team has failed.

Let's look at the game of last week, Peyton had over 400 yards, 3 TDs and 2 INTS, those are impressive stats, did he loose the game though? No, he played a good game but it was his missfortune that his defense couldn't stop a battaered and bruised Chargers team.

I never said their schedule overall was easier, I said divisionally, honestly, who do the Pats have to beat, the lowly Jets, Dolphins and a medicore Bills team year in and out while the Colts have to go up against a good Jacksonivlle team, a good Titans team and a on the rise Texan team. For the Pats, thats and automatic 6-0 but for Peyton, they have to go and battle for those division teams seeing as two of the teams in that division are always playoff contenders

How did the Colt defense play? They were the ones taking on the backup QB, backup RB, and banged-up TE, not Peyton. They were the side of the team that gave up 411 yards. If Peyton choked, the Colt defense was gagged, strangled, and had it's head stuck under a pillow for too long.wallymartin

I always want to have input on the topics posted here, but Wally simply puts words in my mouth. His quote above is the exact same thing I would have said.

I don't think one game justifies Brady > Manning considering Manning has one the last two or three matchups I believe.

Both are great, and they each have off nights. I still think Brady is one of the best QBs ever, but Peyton is up there with him and its debatable on who is better. Sure Brady has more rings, and will probably get another one but he's also had the defense to help him.

Now, I'm not trying to make excuses or anything because Brady is my favorite player, but I know Peyton is right there with him.

I don't think one game justifies Brady > Manning considering Manning has one the last two or three matchups I believe.

Both are great, and they each have off nights. I still think Brady is one of the best QBs ever, but Peyton is up there with him and its debatable on who is better. Sure Brady has more rings, and will probably get another one but he's also had the defense to help him.

Now, I'm not trying to make excuses or anything because Brady is my favorite player, but I know Peyton is right there with him.

TwoKillzOneShot

since when has Brady had an amazing defense, everyone talks about all their week point and what not. The bottom line is Brady has more rings has broken Manning's Record, and is Mr. Clutch and if Brady goes 19-0 and wins the Super Bowl. Well, there is no question, Peyton is expected to be the best yet he has not accomplished anything near what Brady has and now that brady has star WRs he is showing is truelly is better then Manning.

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I don't think one game justifies Brady > Manning considering Manning has one the last two or three matchups I believe.

Both are great, and they each have off nights. I still think Brady is one of the best QBs ever, but Peyton is up there with him and its debatable on who is better. Sure Brady has more rings, and will probably get another one but he's also had the defense to help him.

Now, I'm not trying to make excuses or anything because Brady is my favorite player, but I know Peyton is right there with him.

freediro

since when has Brady had an amazing defense, everyone talks about all their week point and what not. The bottom line is Brady has more rings has broken Manning's Record, and is Mr. Clutch and if Brady goes 19-0 and wins the Super Bowl. Well, there is no question, Peyton is expected to be the best yet he has not accomplished anything near what Brady has and now that brady has star WRs he is showing is truelly is better then Manning.

Considering most of the Patriots key defensive players were around when they won their championships, it's not like their defense has had a huge makeover. The Colts didn't have even an average defense until two or three years ago.

In reality, yeah Brady would is the better man, and probably is the best QB ever. He's like the Michael Jordan of football, you just hope he doesn't get the ball in the end because then its over. The reason I support Manning is because I believe he could do just as good, maybe better if they swapped teams.

Then again with Wayne, Harrison, Clark, Gonzalez and Utech, Brady would probably break every passing record possible and still win a championship.

Saying the Pats have never had a good defense might be the most asinine statement I have seen in a long time

their defense has only been good enough to hold down the fort for a win, not beat you up and rough you up terrible defense liek the Ravens used to have.

I am curious, now I dont realistically think this far ahead or think this will ever happen, so this is a big WHAT IF . . . Brady wins his 4th super bowl then before he retires wins one more making him the only QB with 5 Super Bowls how would you look at him compared to all the other QB's in history?

Let's look at the game of last week, Peyton had over 400 yards, 3 TDs and 2 INTS, those are impressive stats, did he loose the game though? No, he played a good game but it was his missfortune that his defense couldn't stop a battaered and bruised Chargers team.

And Brady was near perfect. What's your point again?
Oh that's right Brady is some how not better than Manning.

I never said their schedule overall was easier, I said divisionally, honestly, who do the Pats have to beat, the lowly Jets, Dolphins and a medicore Bills team year in and out while the Colts have to go up against a good Jacksonivlle team, a good Titans team and a on the rise Texan team. For the Pats, thats and automatic 6-0 but for Peyton, they have to go and battle for those division teams seeing as two of the teams in that division are always playoff contenders

The divison has nothing to do with it.
The Patriots still have to play those game. It's not an automatic 6-0 and to even say that is just an insult to the rest of the AFC East.

Also every team this year played the Patriots like it was the Super Bowl, so one could argue that their overall schedule was one of the hardest seen in a long time.

Let's look at the game of last week, Peyton had over 400 yards, 3 TDs and 2 INTS, those are impressive stats, did he loose the game though? No, he played a good game but it was his missfortune that his defense couldn't stop a battaered and bruised Chargers team.

And Brady was near perfect. What's your point again?
Oh that's right Brady is some how not better than Manning.

I never said their schedule overall was easier, I said divisionally, honestly, who do the Pats have to beat, the lowly Jets, Dolphins and a medicore Bills team year in and out while the Colts have to go up against a good Jacksonivlle team, a good Titans team and a on the rise Texan team. For the Pats, thats and automatic 6-0 but for Peyton, they have to go and battle for those division teams seeing as two of the teams in that division are always playoff contenders

The divison has nothing to do with it.
The Patriots still have to play those game. It's not an automatic 6-0 and to even say that is just an insult to the rest of the AFC East.

Also every team this year played the Patriots like it was the Super Bowl, so one could argue that their overall schedule was one of the hardest seen in a long time.

Herrdoktor

Well when you own victories over 7 of the 12 teams that made the playoffs this year and if they beat Green Bay, they would have beat 8/12 teams that made the playoffs this year, there is nothing soft about that, so this thing about anybody saying their schedule is soft is rubbish

their defense has only been good enough to hold down the fort a win, not beat you up and rough you up terrible defense liek the Ravens used to have.

Which is a hell of a lot better of a defense then what Peyton has had over the years

And playing in the AFC East is for them practacily and automatic 6-0 or 5-1, hell I'm a Bills fan and I can sit here and say that the division is rubbish and pathetic besides the Pats. Let's look, Dolphins-1-15, Jets- 4-12, Bills-7-9, if your saying that won't help pad any teams stats and be easy wins for teams then your blind as all hell

I am curious, now I dont realistically think this far ahead or think this will ever happen, so this is a big WHAT IF . . . Brady wins his 4th super bowl then before he retires wins one more making him the only QB with 5 Super Bowls how would you look at him compared to all the other QB's in history?

freediro

My biggest problem with people saying that Peyton Manning is better then Tom Brady is that Peyton has failed in situations to lead and rally his team to a comeback, where as if it was Tom Brady in that situation, would have lead his team to a victory

So yes the Colts Defense played very poorly this past Sunday, but they still left Peyton with a shot to lead them to a comeback and he failed to do it

I must admit, I feel very cheated by the Colts and Peyton Manning, because I really wanted to see an AFC championship game between them and New England this Sunday and Peyton Manning and the Colts failed to hold up to their end of the bargain

The past 3 times, that they have played, the game has been at Indianapolis and the Patriots earned the right to have a home game againist the Colts after not getting one for the past 2 years and Peyton Manning and the Colts choke and that is just unforgiveable to me

Also if the Patriots do not get the regular season home game between both teams, then it will be a major miscarriage of justice, because let's face it, New England earned the right to get a home game againist them and the Colts failed, so I hope New England will get the game at their place next season

Given the fact that Tom Brady has never lost at home in the playoffs and his team is undefeated and Peyton Manning has never beat New England at home in the playoffs and since both teams were super heavyweights, I wanted the game to be played in the most adverse conditions possible for Peyton Manning to show what he could do and playing in New England this Sunday was the perfect chance for him to cement his legacy on what could have been the biggest Conference Championship game in the history of the league

All I can say is screw the Colts and Peyton Manning for depriving us of the chance to see what would have been the biggest rematch in the history of the NFL

Peyton did play in that sloppy SB against the Bears but come on it was the Bears, USC could beat the Bears.

I have to agree i wanted Peyton to come into Foxboro and see if he could nock of the king of New England, Brady has never lost in Foxboro in the playoffs for the past 10 games now. I wanted to see what could have been the greatest AFC championship games of all time, but Peyton and the Colts choked big time.

Lets face it the Chargers will come out pumped for this game, it will be cold, and Brady will still pick apart the Chargers and by the 2nd half it wont be close.

Once again, don't blame Peyton blame their defense for not being able to stop Billy Volekmidgetman007

Two INTs in the last few minutes of the game isn't exactly something to be proud of either.

the Colts need to go find some good healthy veterans that have never been injured seriously, because they got lucky last year, sorry thats my opinion, and now their defense was hyped up to be so great yet it didnt hold a lead against the Patriots, cant beat a banged up Chargers you know what they got way to overrated this year and now its so obvious.

The Colts are holding back Peyton Manning, they need to get him a defense. But when you defense has 3 minutes and stops the chargers two time so that Peyton could get a a chance to win he didnt. The Colts lost taht game and everyone is to blame.

yea i've thought for a while Brady is the better QB but theres no quesiton, there both amazing QBsGamerMan97

exactly!

Jaguars defense, Steelers, Ravens(even though it was extremely lucky win from the Pats), Redskins, Cowboys defense and I could go on. Actually, the only who give less than 24 points during the season and the playoffs are the Jets. Which we can all say the Patriots offense didn't really tried.

But again, the real "choker" is not Manning but his defense. I really hope Tony Dungy retires.:?

Bunch of bandwagons

Brady has 1 marvlous season and all of sudden he the

greates qb ever....get outta here....Teams are great not qb..

put peyton and brady on atlanta falcon and you guys tell me

who would prefail.....think about it if peyton and brady switch teams

during new england super bowl runs would u still think brady "who at the time had a better defense"

would even been in this conversation........I will always take peyton over brady cuz peyton pocess pure skill

and is the last and only qb today to still call his own plays

Bunch of bandwagons

Brady has 1 marvlous season and all of sudden he the

greates qb ever....get outta here....Teams are great not qb..

Yup this is the only time ever Brady has been considered one of the best QBs of our generation. :roll:

put peyton and brady on atlanta falcon and you guys tell me

who would prefail.....think about it if peyton and brady switch teams

during new england super bowl runs would u still think brady "who at the time had a better defense"

would even been in this conversation........I will always take peyton over brady cuz peyton pocess pure skill

and is the last and only qb today to still call his own plays

Hypotheticals are a waste of time.

What about all the great QBs of the past decades?
'What if' they weren't on their teams either?? :roll:

Also Brady calls his own plays much of the time, especially during 2-minute drills.

Bunch of bandwagons

Brady has 1 marvlous season and all of sudden he the

greates qb ever....get outta here....Teams are great not qb..

Yup this is the only time ever Brady has been considered one of the best QBs of our generation. :roll:

put peyton and brady on atlanta falcon and you guys tell me

who would prefail.....think about it if peyton and brady switch teams

during new england super bowl runs would u still think brady "who at the time had a better defense"

would even been in this conversation........I will always take peyton over brady cuz peyton pocess pure skill

and is the last and only qb today to still call his own plays

Hypotheticals are a waste of time.

What about all the great QBs of the past decades?
'What if' they weren't on their teams either?? :roll:

Also Brady calls his own plays much of the time, especially during 2-minute drills.

Herrdoktor

point taking with if play a big role in sport imagine what would the chargers and giants look like if eli wuznt traded

Joe namath one with a couple of bums kalabo10688

Bums? You're being sarcastic, right?

Namath threw for 4007 yards that season, which would be the equiv' of a 5500-6K season now.

His "bum" WRs:
Don Maynard (Hall of Fame) 71 catches, 1434 yards, 20.2 avg, 10 TD's

George Sauer, 75 catches, 1189 yards, 15.9 avg, 6 TDs

This in an era where the "great QBs" averaged 50-53 completetion % rate bc DBs could get away with anything short of an anal probe while WR's were in the pattern

Only 3 QB's had 3000+ yds... NFL: John Brodie 3020, AFL: John Hadl 3472 , Daryl Lamonica 3245

warren moon threw for 49k+ yards in only 12 yrs of legimate play and never made it to the SB kalabo10688

not to disrespect W.M., but he played in a gimmick offense, the run-and-shoot.

Said offense is reason he didn't get to a SB. After taking a 35-3 halftime lead over Bills, they could not sustain drives and run time off clock to prevent Buffalo from taking the field. Their offense wasn't built for it, and they fell victim to biggest comeback in history bc of it.

No one in pros runs the run-and-shoot and this is main reason why it died a quick death.

terry bradshaw won 4 superbowl yet only threw for 20k in his career kalabo10688

it took T.B. eight years b4 he had a 300 yard game-- SB XIII
(which just so happened to be in the same year the Mel Blount rule was instituted)

Teams are great not qb..kalabo10688

Elway carried the Broncos on his back to 3 SB's. On his back! Those weren't great teams, go look at their rosters... it was primarily Elway. The main reason he's in the argument of being considered best ever.

Brady has 1 marvlous season and all of sudden he the greates qb ever....get outta herekalabo10688

Please. I hope this is again a bit of sarcasm.

Look at what Peyton has had at his disposal on offense vs Brady, and tell me who performed the best with the least.

If Manning was truly all that, he'd have beaten Brady's Pats at least once more in AFC Championship games, instead of choking down on one of his came-changing INTs in those games. If part of that isn't on Manning, (i thought he was best prepared, studies hardest, call his plays yada yada) then Belichick truly is better than anyone will aknowledge bc of their petty hatred and/or jeaousy.

Brady has proved again and again and again that he's the "clutch QB" of this generation

SIDE NOTE: Troy Aikman doesn't have typical Hall of Fame numbers, BUT he has 3 SB Rings.

QB's are ultimately measured by Championships... Brady 3, Manning 1.

well now lets see... brady has welker, stallworth, Gaffney , and oh yea only the best reciever in the league right now Randy Moss... and well lets see here brady looks to sideline and gets plays from the coach, peyton manning usually calls his own plays and he only has Reggie wayne, injured marvin harrision, clark a tight end, and the rokie anthony. so... i itnhk it's the players and team here, and the colts only great defender is bob sanders, pats have like harrision, junoir sea, tedy, and manny more... gstonyr

omg you need a reality check, Manning does not call his own plays maybe once in a while and while doing a hurry up play

Brady surpassed Manning's best season because he finally go some big play makers like Manning had and its obvious Brady is better there is no orgument Brady has passed Manning's best season has 2 more Super Bowls has a perfect season and is about ot make NFl history!