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#1 Wintry_Flutist
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Many of you gotta be kidding me, right?

Fortunately, there was at least this one topic admitting The Conduit doesn't look good at all, after the first boom of insane topics. It's nice to see not everyone can be driven crazy so easily, because you scared me at first. A lot. So, I have a few things to share, and please, don't bring the engine as an excuse here, there is more to be taken with a grain of salt than those promised all mighty graphics. Let's get started.

1. "THIS IS THE GAME I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!"

We know nothing besides promises. The whole article was more like advertising than actual information. They praised the game a lot, but... for what exactly? No info on gameplay, horrid pics. That's it, start the hype.

2. "Horrid pics?! This looks fantastic!"

Maybe you need a pair of glasses or an extra eye. That's all there is to be said here.

3. "But this game is inspired in the greatest FPSs of all time!"

I don't remember this being the failproof quality formula. Those greatest FPSs of all time weren't a mix of previous achievements, so The Conduit is pretty much going against what made those FPSs the great games they are. Right now, The Conduit looks like a mess, each picture seems a totally different (and bland) game. Talk about lack of identity...

4. "It's still early in development!"

Not my problem. High Voltage claims to be achieving something never-before-seen on Wii, and all they bring to prove it is a bunch of terrible pics? They're relying too much on mere "potential" here (and apparently on our optimism too), as they wait for a publisher, one more reason to take it with a grain of salt.

5. "You know it's going to get better, you saw the engine."

It's definetely going to get better, I'm looking forward to it, but now it's you who is starting to relie on mere "potential". Until they actually achieve those "360 quality graphics", there's no reason to drool about it. Then again, don't get fooled by an engine. Sounds like they're going too much on the technical side, so even if they achieve gazillions of effects, it will still look awful without solid art direction - which is lacking right now. Take the engine video for example: it showcases a bunch of effects, but looks totally bland (after all, it's just a technical demo). If a whole game looks like this, then it's a just a waste.

6. "OK, but do you really expect the Wii to be maxed out so early in its lifespan?"

We are not early in its lifespan anymore. Of course, I don't expect The Conduit (or any other game this year for that matter) to max out the Wii, it looks way far from it right now, but I guess we all agree the excuses for bad graphics ended with SMG. So unless a game actually showcases something better than SMG, there's no reason to claim it's going to be da bomb.

7. "I don't care, The Conduit is going to rule!"

Red Steel was going to rule.

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There you go. Why I am telling you all that? Because I fear a new trend is going to start: it seems all a dev has to do to get our love is to say what we want to hear. Don't fool yourself, all we can get from the IGN article is that, so far, High Voltage has put more effort dissing its competitors than making a memorable game. You may say it's too early to hate the game, but it's even earlier to love it.

Thankfully, we have Factor 5 who seems to be willing to show us what they have been doing once it's perfectly presentable.

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#2 Thiago26792
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I agree that we shouldn't be judging the game since now. It can turn out to be like Red Steel, or even surprise us with an excellent FPS. We don't know what is going to happen yet.
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#3 Dibdibdobdobo
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Meh all your arguments can be used in every single game people are anticipating.
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#4 Lunar52
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Meh all your arguments can be used in every single game people are anticipating.Dibdibdobdobo


How. Not every game that people are anticipating are FPS.
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#5 Wintry_Flutist
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Meh all your arguments can be used in every single game people are anticipating.Dibdibdobdobo

Which other game is in the same situation as The Conduit?

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#6 air_wolf_cubed
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maybe we are hyping it because we rarely get fps's and we want more? besides it's already better than red steel in my book because of the MOHH2 based controls
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#7 TDLlama
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I'm reserving judgment until I hear more... but I've got little interest to begin with since it's a shooter. It's what the Wii needs more of, but so far it looks pretty average.
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#8 ColonialMustard
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The tech demo was impressive... for the wii. And I think that people are more excited about the fact that there's actually a 3rd Party developer trying to max out the Wii's graphical capabilities and give us a hardcore gaming experience, which the wii desperately needs.

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#9 haziqonfire
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Yeah the screens are kind of bland -- the game looks really generic.
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Your the one who's blind!!!!!!!!! the game looks amazing, your just scared that the wii is finaly being pushed.....I think the wii (if pushed hard enugh) can do xbox 360 or at least close. So stop knocking the only third-party game that wants to do smomething good for the wii. You should be happy that the wii is spreading it's wings. And the game isn't anywhere near release, (they don't have a date yet) so the game will look much better when it finaly comes out.so HA!!!!
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#11 Wintry_Flutist
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Your the one who's blind!!!!!!!!! the game looks amazing, your just scared that the wii is finaly being pushed.....I think the wii (if pushed hard enugh) can do xbox 360 or at least close. So stop knocking the only third-party game that wants to do smomething good for the wii. You should be happy that the wii is spreading it's wings. And the game isn't anywhere near release, (they don't have a date yet) so the game will look much better when it finaly comes out.so HA!!!!TheAcejoel99

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#12 TheAcejoel99
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yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.
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#13 haziqonfire
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yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.TheAcejoel99

They all look bad, lol.
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#14 TheAcejoel99
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[QUOTE="TheAcejoel99"]yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.Haziqonfire

They all look bad, :lol:.

you don't even own a wii do you......

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#15 Wintry_Flutist
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yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.TheAcejoel99

Pick a good one for me.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="TheAcejoel99"]yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.TheAcejoel99


They all look bad, :lol:.

you don't even own a wii do you......



Guess not.

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[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="TheAcejoel99"]yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.TheAcejoel99


They all look bad, :lol:.

you don't even own a wii do you......

Acejoel you should have looked at his sig and avatar before you even commented, instead of insults try backing up your agruements
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[QUOTE="TheAcejoel99"]yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.Wintry_Flutist

Pic a good one for me.

I don't know how to make a link.....no realy I don't know how to.

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#19 ag1052
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7. "I don't care, The Conduit is going to rule!"

Red Steel was going to rule.

Wintry_Flutist

Exactly!!!

yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.TheAcejoel99
You cant only go by the best screen shots... Red steel had some fantastic looking screen shots but that didnt stop the game from looking crappy.
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#20 CheeseRa
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Resident Evil 4 looks better than that...
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#21 TheAcejoel99
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Fine.......I'm wrong.....your right. Still think the game will be amazing though.
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#22 haziqonfire
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Fine.......I'm wrong.....your right. Still think the game will be amazing though.TheAcejoel99

Based on what the developer has 'promised'?

Dont get your hopes up.
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#23 legend26
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[QUOTE="TheAcejoel99"]yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.Wintry_Flutist

Pick a good one for me.

The Conduit Picture

The Conduit Screenshot

The Conduit Screenshot

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#24 CheeseRa
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Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!
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#25 Nobarai
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I honestly, don't even care about this game. I'm not 18 yet, and I'm not a fan of FPS games.
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#26 Wintry_Flutist
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Better, but still far from amazing. A little reminder:

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#27 monty_4256
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I saw the pics just there now... awful, but I'm not going to rule ou possibility for improvement

but I can't see why they would show something their engine can do better on

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#28 air_wolf_cubed
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Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!CheeseRa
argh matey. maybe ye should wait for some videos before we walk this game off the plank
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#29 legend26
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Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!CheeseRa
ohh then youve played the game? please good sir tell me how was it?:)

alos the tehc demo had some good looking water effects

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#30 Wintry_Flutist
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[QUOTE="CheeseRa"]Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!legend26

ohh then youve played the game? please good sir tell me how was it?:)

alos the tehc demo had some dood looking water effects

So did Twilight Princess on GC. OMG teh next gen has arrived on Wii!

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#31 LINKloco
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Agreed.
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#32 legend26
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[QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="CheeseRa"]Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!Wintry_Flutist

ohh then youve played the game? please good sir tell me how was it?:)

alos the tehc demo had some dood looking water effects

So did Twilight Princess on GC. OMG teh next gen has arrived on Wii!

all im saying is the game looks good, and you have to take into account the game is from a small developer AND still in early development so WAIT before you bash please, it makes you look like a fanboy
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#33 ZumaJones07
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A company telling us what we want to hear is the first step. Now all they have to do is deliver and avoid the mistakes people made in the past. I'm definitely going to track this game, but you can rest assured it isn't already in the "instant buy" list.
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#34 Wintry_Flutist
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="CheeseRa"]Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!legend26

ohh then youve played the game? please good sir tell me how was it?:)

alos the tehc demo had some dood looking water effects

So did Twilight Princess on GC. OMG teh next gen has arrived on Wii!

all im saying is the game looks good, and you have to take into account the game is from a small developer AND still in early development so WAIT before you bash please, it makes you look like a fanboy

I'm not the one looking like a fanboy here, people claiming this is the dream FPS for Wii are the ones looking like desperate fanboys.

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#35 legend26
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[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="CheeseRa"]Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!Wintry_Flutist

ohh then youve played the game? please good sir tell me how was it?:)

alos the tehc demo had some dood looking water effects

So did Twilight Princess on GC. OMG teh next gen has arrived on Wii!

all im saying is the game looks good, and you have to take into account the game is from a small developer AND still in early development so WAIT before you bash please, it makes you look like a fanboy

I'm not the one looking like a fanboy here, people claiming this is the dream FPS for Wii are the ones looking like desperate fanboys.

usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

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usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

legend26

You totally missed the point.

And your definition of fanboy needs some revision. If I started a thread bashing Monster 4x4, I'd be a fanboy? Get real.

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usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

legend26

Hes not bashing the game. Hes just saying people shouldnt hype this game to be the best FPS on Wii ever because of promises made by the devs. Hardly anything is known about this game so far. We dont know what to expect.

Just like when people were hyping Red Steel to be the best FPS and most revolutionary one, look how that turned out.
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#40 Wintry_Flutist
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some of the textures in AC are not the best, but it's still and awesome looking title. So in my opinion The conduit shaping quite nicely

vnc20100

360 version? I think not.
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#41 TheAcejoel99
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[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"]

[QUOTE="TheAcejoel99"]yeah sure you pick one of the bad pics.vnc20100

Pick a good one for me.

The Conduit Picture

The Conduit Screenshot


I must sat these screen looks good, but can we really judge a game's graphics with pictures?

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some of the textures in AC are not the best, but it's still and awesome looking title. So in my opinion The conduit shaping quite nicely

Thank you.

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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"]

[QUOTE="CheeseRa"]Jaggies and simple textures ahoy!legend26

ohh then youve played the game? please good sir tell me how was it?:)

alos the tehc demo had some dood looking water effects

So did Twilight Princess on GC. OMG teh next gen has arrived on Wii!

all im saying is the game looks good, and you have to take into account the game is from a small developer AND still in early development so WAIT before you bash please, it makes you look like a fanboy

I'm not the one looking like a fanboy here, people claiming this is the dream FPS for Wii are the ones looking like desperate fanboys.

usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

It looks like to me he is trying keep people from looking foolish.
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#43 legend26
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[QUOTE="legend26"]

usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

Wintry_Flutist

You totally missed the point.

And your definition of fanboy needs some revision. If I started a thread bashing Monster 4x4, I'd be a fanboy? Get real.

well after reading evrything you say about the game "horrid pics" its sounds like you really hate the game even though you hant played it yet. so i sugest to you please wait and play before you bash, just like me WAITING before i call this amazing
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#44 CheeseRa
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"]

usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

legend26

You totally missed the point.

And your definition of fanboy needs some revision. If I started a thread bashing Monster 4x4, I'd be a fanboy? Get real.

well after reading evrything you say about the game "horrid pics" its sounds like you really hate the game even though you hant played it yet. so i sugest to you please wait and play before you bash, just like me WAITING before i call this amazing

Where's the fun in not guessing how the game will fare once it's out.

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#46 Wintry_Flutist
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[QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"]

usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

legend26

You totally missed the point.

And your definition of fanboy needs some revision. If I started a thread bashing Monster 4x4, I'd be a fanboy? Get real.

well after reading evrything you say about the game "horrid pics" its sounds like you really hate the game even though you hant played it yet. so i sugest to you please wait and play before you bash, just like me WAITING before i call this amazing

I have no idea if the game will be horrid, but those pics certainly are. Anyway, if you're not onde of the fools who are celebrating this announcement, you have no reason to complain about this topic.

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#47 kbaily
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I think it's because, Wii fans are tired of only looking forward to the first party titles, which as of right now are the only titles taking advantage of the Wii's capabilities. The system seems custom made for shooters and yet we've barely got any decent ones and let's face, it despite unique titles like Okami and Zack and Wiki, everyone just wants another shooter with pretty graphics and maybe if the Wii got one, the stupid Xbots would shut the hell up.

Also IGN's article pointed out that despite the high sales of the Wii, we've yet to see third party publishers put big budgets into Wii games, so I say, let's see how the whole thing works out. It could be another Red Steel, or it could end up being the FPS the Wii needed.

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#48 machod_19
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Everyone has to stop crying, because this game is actually good. The pics don't look bad, they look great for a Wii. The game is still in early development, and i know the controls will be great because for controls they went and looked at Metroid Prime: 3 and Medal of Honor: Hearos 2. Hopefully they can learn from the mistakes of Red Steel and all other 3rd party Wii titles that sucked and put effort into it. Last but not least, everyone has been crying about how they want a mature FPS, this is it.
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#49 legend26
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[QUOTE="legend26"][QUOTE="Wintry_Flutist"][QUOTE="legend26"]

usually when you make a thread just to bash another game that means fanboy......now im not saying this will be the best wii fps (mp3 imo) but it has some real potential.

Wintry_Flutist

You totally missed the point.

And your definition of fanboy needs some revision. If I started a thread bashing Monster 4x4, I'd be a fanboy? Get real.

well after reading evrything you say about the game "horrid pics" its sounds like you really hate the game even though you hant played it yet. so i sugest to you please wait and play before you bash, just like me WAITING before i call this amazing

I have no idea if the game will be horrid, but those pics certainly are. Anyway, if you're not onde of the fools who are celebrating this announcement, you have no reason to complain about this topic.

i think we all know not to judge a game by graphics *cough lair cough*
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#50 legend26
Member since 2007 • 16010 Posts

I think it's because, Wii fans are tired of only looking forward to the first party titles, which as of right now are the only titles taking advantage of the Wii's capabilities. The system seems custom made for shooters and yet we've barely got any decent ones and let's face, it despite unique titles like Okami and Zack and Wiki, everyone just wants another shooter with pretty graphics and maybe if the Wii got one, the stupid Xbots would shut the hell up.

Also IGN's article pointed out that despite the high sales of the Wii, we've yet to see third party publishers put big budgets into Wii games, so I say, let's see how the whole thing works out. It could be another Red Steel, or it could end up being the FPS the Wii needed.

kbaily
you sir are correct