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A few considerations on Wii fans reaction after The Conduit announcement...

Wintry_Flutist · 2008-04-18 02:21:14

Many of you gotta be kidding me, right?Fortunately, there was at least this one topic admitting The Conduit doesn't look good at all, after the first boom of insane topics. It's nice to see not everyone can be driven crazy so easily, because you scared me at first. A lot. So, I have a few things to share, and please, don't bring the engine as an excuse here, there is more to be taken with a grain of salt than those promised all mighty graphics. Let's get started.1. 'THIS IS THE GAME I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR!!'We know nothing besides promises. The whole article was more like advertising than actual information. They praised the game a lot, but... for what exactly? No info on gameplay, horrid pics. That's it, start the hype.2. 'Horrid pics?! This looks fantastic!'Maybe you need a pair of glasses or an extra eye. That's all there is to be said here.3. 'But this game is inspired in the greatest FPSs of all time!'I don't remember this being the failproof quality formula. Those greatest FPSs of all time weren't a mix of previous achievements, so The Conduit is pretty much going against what made those FPSs the great games they are. Right now, The Conduit looks like a mess, each picture seems a totally different (and bland) game. Talk about lack of identity...4. 'It's still early in development!'Not my problem. High Voltage claims to be achieving something never-before-seen on Wii, and all they bring to prove it is a bunch of terrible pics? They're relying too much on mere 'potential' here (and apparently on our optimism too), as they wait for a publisher, one more reason to take it with a grain of salt.5. 'You know it's going to get better, you saw the engine.'It's definetely going to get better, I'm looking forward to it, but now it's you who is starting to relie on mere 'potential'. Until they actually achieve those '360 quality graphics', there's no reason to drool about it. Then again, don't get fooled by an engine. Sounds like they're going too much on the technical side, so even if they achieve gazillions of effects, it will still look awful without solid art direction - which is lacking right now. Take the engine video for example: it showcases a bunch of effects, but looks totally bland (after all, it's just a technical demo). If a whole game looks like this, then it's a just a waste.6. 'OK, but do you really expect the Wii to be maxed out so early in its lifespan?' We are not early in its lifespan anymore. Of course, I don't expect The Conduit (or any other game this year for that matter) to max out the Wii, it looks way far from it right now, but I guess we all agree the excuses for bad graphics ended with SMG. So unless a game actually showcases something better than SMG, there's no reason to claim it's going to be da bomb.7. 'I don't care, The Conduit is going to rule!'Red Steel was going to rule.------There you go. Why I am telling you all that? Because I fear a new trend is going to start: it seems all a dev has to do to get our love is to say what we want to hear. Don't fool yourself, all we can get from the IGN article is that, so far, High Voltage has put more effort dissing its competitors than making a memorable game. You may say it's too early to hate the game, but it's even earlier to love it.Thankfully, we have Factor 5 who seems to be willing to show us what they have been doing once it's perfectly presentable.

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Wintry_Flutist

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#101 Wintry_Flutist

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but diddnt you say the pics are horrid? (thats commenting on it)
eny way if somebody wants to hype it to high heaven fine let them, dosnt effect me in eny way, why should it you? just let people do what they want...
legend26

This is a fact that many people seem not to see. You're smart enough to understand what I mean. Trying to find little 'flaws' in such details just because you aren't pleased with what you heard is pretty ridiculous.

What about letting me say what I want? That's not good, huh, since I disagree with you.

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#102 TacticalElefant

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1. The game is in EARLY development, hence the real lack of dynamic shadows at this point and some really flat textures not to mention those human soldier have REALLY low polygon counts.

2. This game has potential. The Halo meets Half Life premise could be a winner if it is of course executed well enough

3. The engine developed for this game and for marketing towards other devs teams I think is even more important than this game.

4. Did I mention that the Quantum3 engine is a freakin awesome engine, and the only one of it's kind for the Wii?

So I definetly having high hopes for this without losing my head, because we know this game could be complete **** once released. However I think this game already is opening eyes to the needs of high level engines for the Wii, because graphics do matter, I don't want to year of your BS about gameplay over graphics because even though gameplay is the most important part, the graphics are going to be the medium by which the console and TV interact with your eyes to give you the illusion and immersion we so desire. Also this will really get some healthy competition going between High Voltage and Factor 5. I'd expect Factor 5 to have an even more impressive engine feature set, but so far they haven't revealed anything.

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#103 iceldc

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hahaha what a load of rubbish the game looks good.

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#104 -CheeseEater-

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It looks so, very, very generic.

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#105 rodrolco

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People keep saying that Wintry is bashing the game. He isnt XD

I agree totally with Wintry here, I really hope for a great game to come out, but so far they've showed really generic stuff that could be made better on last gen technology. Anyway, anyone can hype the game if they want but I'll wait for more info and gameplay videos before deciding. That is Wintry's point, dont get yourself convinced by a few pics and a tech demo that looks avarage, they are talking about this "great" engine that will blow away from the water any other 3d party Wii game and even look identical or at least close enough to 360 games. Thats a bit to much trash talk without showing us great material about this game. So hold your horses till we get decent info about the Conduit.

BTW they really need to get rid of this "alien invasion" idea, I've done that trough, Halo, Half-life, Resistance, Doom, Unreal, Crysis, MP3 franchises several times.

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#106 Wintry_Flutist

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hahaha what a load of rubbish the game looks good.iceldc

Dehehhe, 4 sure!

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#107 toadster101

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An alien invasion...

pft, even Mario Party 8 had a better plot.

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#108 Wintry_Flutist

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I don't want to year of your BS about gameplay over graphics because even though gameplay is the most important part, the graphics are going to be the medium by which the console and TV interact with your eyes to give you the illusion and immersion we so desire. Also this will really get some healthy competition going between High Voltage and Factor 5. I'd expect Factor 5 to have an even more impressive engine feature set, but so far they haven't revealed anything.TacticalElefant

Wrong thread.

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