Anyone convinced that the Wii has done miserably in regard to quality titles?

Before I begin, this is partially a rant due to my frustration having purchased the Wii system. The rest is my observation that there seem to be little no no quality titles for the Wii (reason of my frustration).

Ok, there is Super Smash Brothers Brawl, Super Mario Galaxy, Resident Evil 4, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess, Mario Kart: Wii, Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. There may be a few others thrown in the list of good quality titles, but I cannot currently think of any.

Smash Brothers is great if you have friends around and completely negates the motion sensing functions of the Wii remote. Since the remote appears to be fundamental is almost every Wii game, why isn't there an option to use it in this?

Super Mario Galaxy is fun for a lot of people (although in my personal opinion there was something missing that just made it not very enjoyable; I don't know what).

RE4 is great but it is a port.

Twilight Princess was pretty good (except for the whole wolf business and minor spoilers, the bugs of darkness) but it is also a port,

Mario Kart: Wii is great but it appears to be just way too similar to the other Mario Kart games to warrant a purchase.

Metroid Prime 3: Corruption, in my opinion was ok, but it was not nearly the caliber of game as Metroid Prime 1 and 2 are. The whole Wii controller ended up feeling gimmicky and annoying for the game, not to mention the ability to use the most powerful beam from almost the beginning of the game with very few setbacks, e.g. if you stay in it for like 2 minutes (which you are a fool to do) you die.

Nintendo is raking in money from the "causal gamer/non-gamer" audience, but what about those who like quality titles and not hundreds of simplistic and boring-after-10-times mini-games? It is really quite annoying. I really cannot think of any quality titles for the Wii other than the ones I have mentioned above (in which at least 3 are mediocre and one is only fun when you are playing against other people; Nintendo Wi-Fi is not good enough to satisfy this need) Nintendo still hasn't done any better with third party titles, even though they promised it would be better for the Wii than the Gamecube. What is the deal Nintendo?

Do any of you guys know of any quality titles other than these? Anyone else frustrated at the utter lack of anything entertaining that lasts for more than the length of a few mini-games? Does anyone know of a few titles that will hopefully turn this poor investment around?

Er, at first I was supportive of the Wii, but now I am starting to agree with others that were saying it is a suped-up Gamecube with a gimmick controller.

I know what would shut my grumbling up though... a new good Metroid game and a new Legend of Zelda game. However, those appear to be so far in the future that no mention has even been made of them.

Look at the link in my sig. A lot of titles show promise.

plus, i have 20 Wii titles that i love -- all are of great quality.

I don't think there is a lack of quality games but I think it can seem otherwise because of the numerous crap titles.

If you don't like any of those games then the Wii isn't your type of system. I'm more than satisfied with the great Wii games I've got.

Zack & Wiki and No More Heroes are other great games you could try out.

well im not a big fan of microsoft xbox systems, the only games not on wii i like are assisians creed, cod4jeff89jdf

I just wanna point out, first of all, that there is an option to use motion controls in SSBB.
Secondly, I just got done playing 5 hours of Castle of Shikigami 3. Fantastic game, but how many people have more than heard of it? There are plenty of quality titles, and they don't all have to be big name ones, either.Picklechugger

For one, Super Mario Galaxy, imo, is the best game I've ever played in my life and fully deserved Game of the Year '07, which it got on Gamespot, IGN and Gametrailers. It had a much richer story than any Mario before it (though admittedly, that's not saying much), beautiful graphics, wonderful, masterful, ORCHESTRATED music, and even a little voice acting. It was easy early on so everyone could get involved, but for those who want a hardcore experience stick it out for all 120; you will not be disappointed, in terms of difficulty.

Others: I'll have to disagree, I think Metroid Prime 3 has the best Wii remote control I've ever seen, and that Gamespot's reviewer is a flaming moron. Again, just imo...

I liked Twilight Princess, but I agree it had more flaws than it should've had, especially since we first saw it unveiled in 2004.

Resident Evil 4 was, of course, a port, but I think it's easily the best rendition of the game.

I love No More Heroes and like Brawl when I can get a good group of people together to play. Otherwise, the single player sucks as much as ever. And get Okami. It's another port, but the Wii version does it a lot more justice than the PS2 version, since the whole point is drawing.

Don't have Mario Kart. But may I suggest, if you still don't think there are enough good titles for some reason, that you try out some VC games? They look dated, sure, but they're plenty fun. And even if Gamecube had a lot of flaws and major issues with third parties, it had a couple masterpieces itself.

Suggestions: Super Mario Bros, Super Mario Bros. 3, The Legend of Zelda, Kid Icarus, Sonic the Hedgehog 1-3/ Sonic and Knuckles, Super Mario World, The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Super Mario 64, Donkey Kong 64 (if it's out), The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (MUST HAVE), if you're looking at VC.

For Gamecube: Metroid Prime (1, not 2; imo 2 was easily the lousiest of the franchise), The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, Tales of Symphonia, Eternal Darkness: Sanity's Requiem (if you can find it...)

Gamecube's Mario games were epic failures though. Imo. Like anything related to Mario: Super Mario Sunshine sucked, Luigi's Mansion was so-so, the worst Mario Party of them all was on it... Mario Kart Double Dash isn't as good as the DS Mario Kart (that's pathetic...)

But hate to disagree with you. Galaxy was absolutely amazing, and I actually don't get into Mario games that much. I don't have any of the VC Mario games I suggested, except 64, which is awesome. But I'm just suggesting them if you like platforming.

If you want shooters, wait for The Conduit and run through Prime 3 again. You might notice the controls were actually pretty dang good. Also, Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 is worth a look, for both the campaign and the Wi-Fi.

@ title: No.

Nice try, but this thread has been done 1000 times already. The quality titles are there, you just have to look for them. There are a couple of ports, but aren't those still fun games? And if a game doesn't use motion control, isn't it still a fun game? Brawl has wiimote controls, but I opted to use the wiimote/nunchuk combo. Is the game no longer fun? What's disappointing is that in most people's minds a wii game has to go by the formula: Motion Control + good graphics + fun gameplay = Good Game. As far as I'm concerned, only the latter is necessary. The wii promised a fun experience and it has delivered. As far as the casual experience being only minigames that get boring after 10 seconds...have you played wii sports? Mario Kart? Try getting -13 on 9 holes of golf. It took me and about 4 other people about 6 months to finally see it happen. If you've got people to play with, the multiplayer games are a load of fun and don't get old. If you're playing by yourself, then yea, I can see that happening.

Nintendo told us they would change the way we play games forever and they have. What they've also done is change who is playing the games. And the gamers stuck in the last decade are expecting traditional powerhouse games with familiar titles and breakthrough advancements every time. But that's not what is going to happen. Casual gamers will get more attention and more games geared toward them because they are paying the money. They are the big difference between Nintendo and the rest of the competition this gen and they're being rewarded for it. Traditional gamers aren't the priority anymore. I think it would do all of us wii owners good to accept that and stop complaining.

And what's worse is that Nintendo is set to release the same number of quality 1st party titles on wii that they did on any other console. Great Mario platformer? Check. Metroid? Check. 2 Zeldas? Check. Mario Kart? Check. Super Smash Bros (An outstanding game)? Check. We're getting all of the same stuff, people just aren't as happy this go round. I don't know whether everybody's spoiled, or it just feels like less since the casual games are getting the most buzz.

nope i dont ,, almost all the games i own are quality titles,

re4 wii edition

man hunt 2

zelda tp

marioparty 8 mariokart wii mario galaxy

no more heroes

metroid 3

driver paralel lines

medal of honor heroes 2

medal of honor vanguard

cod3

red steel

far cry vengance

and more ,

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timesplitters 4

star wars clone wars 2

re0 wii edition

red steel 2

mario party 9-eventually

fzero sequal

in fact ps3 does not have as many games as both 360 and wii , and wii is regarded as the best console by numerous gaming studios,

Super Mario Galaxy is fun for a lot of people (although in my personal opinion there was something missing that just made it not very enjoyable; I don't know what).

wookieeassassin

It's pretty sad how you don't know why you like/dislike things.

i 100% agree with the thread creator. Love the Wii Love Nintendo..... but i dont love the lack of quality games considering if any developer could make it it would instantly sell millions tot he 20million+ starving Wii owners lol.

I'm sure this will fall on deaf ears, but I will post it anyway.

Good games on the Wii.

• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
• Medal Of Honor Heroes 2
• Battalion Wars 2
• Pro Evolution 2008
• Trauma Center: New Blood
• Trauma Center: Second Opinion
• Zack and Wiki
• Madden
• Okami
• No More Heroes
• Super Mario Strikers
• Endless Ocean

And there's others, if you are willing to look.

"Good games" on the Wii.

• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Goodish game But comon a 6 from GS? anything below a 7 i am very dubious on.
• Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 - Port and personally i would rather play MOH heroes..... Wiimote does not compensate for the graphics.
• Battalion Wars 2 - Quite good but sitll not a 8 or higher.
• Pro Evolution 2008 - Port and looks hard to control
• Trauma Center: New Blood - why would i buy two TC games?
• Trauma Center: Second Opinion - good game
• Zack and Wiki - Good game
• Madden - Better without wiimote and with better graphics
• Okami - Port from the ps2... but i want it.
• No More Heroes - Looks ok
• Super Mario Strikers - Quite a Good game but not really on par with the standard of many other console games.
• Endless Ocean - I dont want to play as a diver looking for fish.

And there's others, if you are willing to look.

dragonball3900

"good" is in the eys of the beholder. Some i agree some i do not.

nope i dont ,, almost all the games i own are quality titles,

far cry vengance

mariokart64fan

far cry is not a quality title on the wii...

[QUOTE="dragonball3900"]

"Good games" on the Wii.

• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Goodish game But comon a 6 from GS? anything below a 7 i am very dubious on.
• Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 - Port and personally i would rather play MOH heroes..... Wiimote does not compensate for the graphics.
• Battalion Wars 2 - Quite good but sitll not a 8 or higher.
• Pro Evolution 2008 - Port and looks hard to control
• Trauma Center: New Blood - why would i buy two TC games?
• Trauma Center: Second Opinion - good game
• Zack and Wiki - Good game
• Madden - Better without wiimote and with better graphics
• Okami - Port from the ps2... but i want it.
• No More Heroes - Looks ok
• Super Mario Strikers - Quite a Good game but not really on par with the standard of many other console games.
• Endless Ocean - I dont want to play as a diver looking for fish.

And there's others, if you are willing to look.

Goldmatter

"good" is in the eys of the beholder. Some i agree some i do not.

i'm very open to discussion about my oppions, usausally it is worhtless spending the time to write extensive replys.

I brought a wii for the sake i love nintendo games and loved my gamcube to death, i also wanted virtual console games as i love nintendos back cataloge of games.

for my oppions, some of them are very short concise as i didnt think people wanted my complete overveiw of the games.

Endless ocean, fair enough this game could be some fun but i do not believe from the reviews i have seen it is for me, for me im sure covers a large majoirty of male gamers aged 15-40.... i would play it and try it out, i love things like harvest moon etc but i don't see there is any point other than exploring the ocean which i would much rather do by watching "Blue Planet" or another high Def documentry in which i can see the animals in there full glory.

Fire Emblem is a series which i have never got into, with the majoirty of the reviews saying the game is not for newcomers i was putoff. But i will withdraw my statement saying it is a bad game, from other reviews and youtube it seems it is a goodgame which should of scored soemthing in the region of 70-85% but is still not a great game (85%+) but it is still something

Pro Evo is a game series my housemates play extensively, but i however do not. The game mechanics do not look suited to a wii mote, and the majoirty of friends have said the game looks cumbersome on a wiim ote and the graphics are subpar.

I love nintendo but feel yet again with there inovated ideas they block out what a large majoirty of devleopers want to make, Good looking games with there artistic flare on the genre. People like Temco, Capcom , Sqaure enix and many other dev's just want to make games which look good. i mean if you had a idea of a game what would you be thinking? would you make a game with motion sensitive controls ( somethign which has been around Yearrrsss ) or a game which could look like virtual reality. This is a time old question and if you look at how the gaming market has progressed the majoirty of people aged 15-40 male want games which look good. Obviously this is not a cash cow as there is the age ranges 5-15 then 40-100 + the female market which far exceeds the male market. This market does not look at review sites and does not care about graphcis. Hence why the wii sells like mad.

This is a very short summary of what i think, Please question it more if you want more of a discussion about it. I like other peoples oppions, its the only way to learning.

Goldmatter,

It's fine if certain games do not appeal to you personally, but that doesn't mean they aren't good...and that's really what the topic is about. Pro Evo is the best soccer game I've ever played, and it would be difficult to make the controls any more fluid. They're fantastic already. And Fire Emblem is filled with tutorials that make it simple for a new player to jump in. As for why you would want a second Trauma Center game...I suppose for the same reason that you might want the sequel to any other game...

It just seems a little pretentious for you to go through a list of games and make negative comments about the ones you've never played.

Oh, and where on Earth are you getting your statistics from that last post?

Goldmatter,

It's fine if certain games do not appeal to you personally, but that doesn't mean they aren't good...and that's really what the topic is about. Pro Evo is the best soccer game I've ever played, and it would be difficult to make the controls any more fluid. They're fantastic already. And Fire Emblem is filled with tutorials that make it simple for a new player to jump in. As for why you would want a second Trauma Center game...I suppose for the same reason that you might want the sequel to any other game...

It just seems a little pretentious for you to go through a list of games and make negative comments about the ones you've never played.

Oh, and where on Earth are you getting your statistics from that last post?

presto7640

Sorry i should state Clearly these are my oppions, i usally put it at the end these are my oppions. I feel i said wheni went though the list that some games were good but i felt the guy made a list of which were just any games he could think of not nessasrily the "cream of the crop" which is what we are talking about with "quality titles".

15 games from gamespot on the 360 getting 9 or more. In fairness alot of these games are shared betwee Ps3 and PC but as most of 360/PC/Ps3 games are interbred now a days its better to jumble them together and then note the few games which seperate the pair. Very few of these games are avaiable in any form on the wii.

8 Wii Games. If you wanted to be picky 2 of which are ports 2 VC. Then considerably less games which are between 8-9 and EVEN less if you take out VC games which most of us played yearssss ago.

This all boils down too, the nintendo Wii is starved for Quality games. I THINK(my oppion) this could be down to dev's prefering the route of visualy stunning work in comparison to creative work, so the big name developers go for PC/360/PS3 combined as even with the large userbase for the wii it still does not exceed all those three together ( but it will soon at the rate it is selling), as companys they are also set up for making these sorts of games as that is what they have been doing for the last decade.

Edit: Check out my collection, i am not compeltly bias ( well im not a fan of sony for several reasons) but as far as nintendo goes i have supported them every step of the way, i also support microsoft in there endevers as well.

K. Goldmatter,

I hate to break this to you, but look at the Game of the Year awards for 2006. Gamespot picked a game on Xbox 360. IGN picked a game on PS2. Gametrailers picked a game on Wii. What does this tell you?

All three are (or at least were) biased. So don't judge a game based on its Gamespot score. For example, I personally have to say Twilight Princess and Metroid Prime 3 each deserved a minimum of 9.0-9.5. They're each amazing titles. Similarly, Wii Fit earned a higher score. Not in the 9's, but higher.

Resident Evil 4 and No More Heroes got 9's though. Why? They're filled with blood. Am I the only one that noticed this?

I think Gamespot finally got their heads out of their @$$es when they noticed Super Mario Galaxy was more fun than anything else in '07, and picked it as Game of the Year. Why? It reminded them that just because a game doesn't have blood, that doesn't mean it can't be fun and addictive. IGN did the same thing. Gametrailers did the same thing.

In other words, Nintendo proved to them that without resorting to rated M titles they can produce truly outstanding games, especially with the help of a system as innovative as the Wii. That's the whole point. Proving to us Americans blood and gore aren't necessary. We didn't believe it in 2003, when The Wind Waker proved it to Gamespot, did we? Gamespot picked the 'cartoony, childish' Wind Waker as Game of the Year.

And I noticed that Fire Emblem got a 6 from Gamespot and a 9 in Nintendo Power. Therefore, I've been kind of... unsure whether it's worth the money. And from what I hear, it is. Thank you for the info.

Also, Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 isn't a port. The graphics are very impressive in the campaign, even if bodies don't move quite right in multiplayer. Like, impressive for a console, not for a PSP. And much more importantly, the controls are amazing. EA finally figured out how to make a good title on Wii. Is that soccer game by EA? I'm starting to like them after all...

Now, let's get Capcom on board and get some RE5 on Wii! NOT FOR BLOOD, for the absolutely amazing controls, graphics... Everything behind RE4. (It won Game of the Year too... The Gamecube version).

Actually, Capcom's amazing. Okami's port was high quality, and they made Zack and Wiki, which I've heard good things about but I can't find anywhere.

But don't worry- if you just hate Nintendo's first party titles just because Nintendo made them (for some reason...) then here's some third-party games for you:

No More Heroes
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (those last two if you just need blood in a game)
Okami
Zack and Wiki: Quest for Barbaros' Treasure
Medal of Honor: Heroes 2

Upcoming:

The Conduit
Mad World (again, in the case of blood, gore and violence)
Rock Band
Sonic Unleashed
Star Wars: The Force Unleased
Tales of Symphonia 2
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers (made by a different group than the usual FFCC group)

:cry:

wookieeassassin

Get over yourself and spend a couple minutes researching the good games for the system. It's not rocket science...

Thank you for the long reply! it was a interesting read.

i am considering Okami and MOH heroes 2. I am not obessed with mature games by any strech of the imagination, i am very open minded about what games i play and always have been, i played and enjoyed vivia pinata emensly despite being ripped upon by my housemates!

I struggle to see were nintendo can take games in the next two years. Can the wiimote really make up for the hardware power diffrence? I am fortunate to have a pretty good PC and i'm very good at optimising the ammount of performance i get out of what i have ( hence the 3dmark). So i have been spoilt with amazing high def graphics. I would love to play wii games without the ugly textures. nintendo are very good about getting around these problems, Galaxy managed it by only having small areas on the screen at the same time so it was not a huge strain if they made those small areas very high quality.

Zelda i was disappointed that in parts when you spin attack 6-8 enemys it slows down, but i still feel it deserved a 9 or more from gamespot, hence why i put my review of 9.5 as i feel it as good as any zelda game and there is nothing wrong with the game not differing from the Zelda Gold forumlar when it only comes around every 5years(or so it feels), give me a new story, some new items, a new game world.

You have some very good points and i do agree with some of them. I am very open to discuss my oppions.

Pro Evo is a game series my housemates play extensively, but i however do not. The game mechanics do not look suited to a wii mote, and the majoirty of friends have said the game looks cumbersome on a wiim ote and the graphics are subpar.

Goldmatter

The game `looks cumbersome' ... how about actually trying it before declaring that `looking' is good enough?

I couldn't imagine a soccer game without the pointer, and without the Wiimote IMO the controls would be poor and difficult. Perhaps the graphics are better on the other system ... but I wouldn't trade the Wii version for another [even if you threw in the console]. It's controls are superior and extremely enjoyable to my many many hours of playing.

If they gave the Wii version a chance, I bet they'd enjoy it a lot too.

[QUOTE="dragonball3900"]

"Good games" on the Wii.

• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Goodish game But comon a 6 from GS? anything below a 7 i am very dubious on.
• Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 - Port and personally i would rather play MOH heroes..... Wiimote does not compensate for the graphics.
• Battalion Wars 2 - Quite good but sitll not a 8 or higher.
• Pro Evolution 2008 - Port and looks hard to control
• Trauma Center: New Blood - why would i buy two TC games?
• Trauma Center: Second Opinion - good game
• Zack and Wiki - Good game
• Madden - Better without wiimote and with better graphics
• Okami - Port from the ps2... but i want it.
• No More Heroes - Looks ok
• Super Mario Strikers - Quite a Good game but not really on par with the standard of many other console games.
• Endless Ocean - I dont want to play as a diver looking for fish.

And there's others, if you are willing to look.

Goldmatter

"good" is in the eys of the beholder. Some i agree some i do not.

[QUOTE="Goldmatter"]

Pro Evo is a game series my housemates play extensively, but i however do not. The game mechanics do not look suited to a wii mote, and the majoirty of friends have said the game looks cumbersome on a wiim ote and the graphics are subpar.

CoralMark

The game `looks cumbersome' ... how about actually trying it before declaring that `looking' is good enough?

I couldn't imagine a soccer game without the pointer, and without the Wiimote IMO the controls would be poor and difficult. Perhaps the graphics are better on the other system ... but I wouldn't trade the Wii version for another [even if you threw in the console]. It's controls are superior and extremely enjoyable to my many many hours of playing.

If they gave the Wii version a chance, I bet they'd enjoy it a lot too.

I originally bought Pro Evo on PS3, after playing it on a Wii (one my friends picked it up) I traded in the PS3 one for the Wii version. Just because it was much more fun to play.

I agree that the Wii has been pretty weak with its exclusive non port games.

MP3 was pretty good i didnt like because i really liked the last 2 and it deviated from them a little but it was still a great game.

LoZ TP: I thought got very boring

SMG: very good

No more heros is great i havent finished it but its fun

But it hasnt even been 2years yet and the Wii is different so it'll take awhile but the games will grow into the system.The 360 has been out for a while and its easy for people to come up with games for it. If you look at the PS3 its in a simailar Drought to the Wii. For the most part most of PS3s really good games are also 360 games too. Actually its safe to say that all of PS3's really good games are also really good on the 360. I saw by this time next year we wont be complainning about the lack of good games anymore

crap titles

I'll agree that i to am not real happy with whats out and do out for the Wii right now as a stand alone system. I do how ever disagree with your opinion of SMG and MP3. both games were realy great IMHO. zelda TP was very much been there done that. but then again as you said it was basicly a port with taked on Wii controls much like RE4 another top wii game. brawl was not at all my kinda game. no more heros felt ..... unimpressive to me. it was stylish and a very cool idea but as far as playing it i just did not get much out of it. Z&W is fun but Im got bord fast. I would like to see some realy epic type games come out for the Wii. some AAA RPG's and FPS not just puzzle and mini cames. I want games like GoW,GTA4,MGS4 and some raceing games like F1 on the ps3 and grand turismo ect. of course some people will tell me i bought the wrong system. Well thats why i had to shell out 400 clams a few weeks ago for a ps3. i just wish i didnt have to do that to get the kind of games i want. i would like to see those types of high qulity mature/serious or what ever you want to call them games. something like half life 2 would be nice not just mario and wiifit or pokemon ect. then we can talk about the whole storage space issue but i would rather not beat that poor horse lol. i think the Wii has a TON of untapped potental. problem is i see no one realy tryn to tap it "insert joke here". Wild_Card

I agree with everything except what u said about Z&W I loved it I didn't get bored but the last level proved to be tottally imposible for me so I quited it, I didn't care much about the story and I didn't want to look on the interne

If you don't like any of those games then the Wii isn't your type of system. I'm more than satisfied with the great Wii games I've got.

Zack & Wiki and No More Heroes are other great games you could try out.

Erebyssial

Ive played both of these games and they are awesome

@ title: No.

Nice try, but this thread has been done 1000 times already. The quality titles are there, you just have to look for them. There are a couple of ports, but aren't those still fun games? And if a game doesn't use motion control, isn't it still a fun game? Brawl has wiimote controls, but I opted to use the wiimote/nunchuk combo. Is the game no longer fun? What's disappointing is that in most people's minds a wii game has to go by the formula: Motion Control + good graphics + fun gameplay = Good Game. As far as I'm concerned, only the latter is necessary. The wii promised a fun experience and it has delivered. As far as the casual experience being only minigames that get boring after 10 seconds...have you played wii sports? Mario Kart? Try getting -13 on 9 holes of golf. It took me and about 4 other people about 6 months to finally see it happen. If you've got people to play with, the multiplayer games are a load of fun and don't get old. If you're playing by yourself, then yea, I can see that happening.

Nintendo told us they would change the way we play games forever and they have. What they've also done is change who is playing the games. And the gamers stuck in the last decade are expecting traditional powerhouse games with familiar titles and breakthrough advancements every time. But that's not what is going to happen. Casual gamers will get more attention and more games geared toward them because they are paying the money. They are the big difference between Nintendo and the rest of the competition this gen and they're being rewarded for it. Traditional gamers aren't the priority anymore. I think it would do all of us wii owners good to accept that and stop complaining.

And what's worse is that Nintendo is set to release the same number of quality 1st party titles on wii that they did on any other console. Great Mario platformer? Check. Metroid? Check. 2 Zeldas? Check. Mario Kart? Check. Super Smash Bros (An outstanding game)? Check. We're getting all of the same stuff, people just aren't as happy this go round. I don't know whether everybody's spoiled, or it just feels like less since the casual games are getting the most buzz.

supreuph

Great post. Couldn't have said better.

@ TC :Also the fact that some games are not for your liking doesn't mean they are not quality. If you don't like the Wii games, fine go buy another console. But if you try to argue about quality, I just have to say you are trolling or don't know that you are talking about.

Metroid controls gimmicky? lol. You even couldn't figure out what is wrong with Galaxy and argue that these titles are not quality.

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it does have alot of dire trash that u wouldnt let a hardened criminal play...it would be too crewl to inflict that on them.

BUT it has alot of gold in its library too. u just need to look with an open mind and a willingness to try new things. as time goes on, the wii si continuing to proove its worth despite the copious amounts of putrid turds. this month alone ill be getting 3 titles for it: okami (released in europe this month), bloom blox and i already got lost winds (thanks for the free game ninty..love that star trade in scheme over here :D) which is excellent.

[QUOTE="Goldmatter"]

Pro Evo is a game series my housemates play extensively, but i however do not. The game mechanics do not look suited to a wii mote, and the majoirty of friends have said the game looks cumbersome on a wiim ote and the graphics are subpar.

CoralMark

The game `looks cumbersome' ... how about actually trying it before declaring that `looking' is good enough?

I couldn't imagine a soccer game without the pointer, and without the Wiimote IMO the controls would be poor and difficult. Perhaps the graphics are better on the other system ... but I wouldn't trade the Wii version for another [even if you threw in the console]. It's controls are superior and extremely enjoyable to my many many hours of playing.

If they gave the Wii version a chance, I bet they'd enjoy it a lot too.

For everyone who keeps rattling on aobut the Pro Evo comment. I clearly stated at the start of my sentence that i have not played it and have no intention too as its not my kind of game.

And the word "look" clearly means that i have made that statement from looking at the game and not playing it. And the oppion comes from looking at it ( agreeably this a weak foundation for a oppion ) but the joy of free speach means i'm allowed to voice my oppions.

[QUOTE="Goldmatter"][QUOTE="dragonball3900"]

"Good games" on the Wii.

• Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - Goodish game But comon a 6 from GS? anything below a 7 i am very dubious on.
• Medal Of Honor Heroes 2 - Port and personally i would rather play MOH heroes..... Wiimote does not compensate for the graphics.
• Battalion Wars 2 - Quite good but sitll not a 8 or higher.
• Pro Evolution 2008 - Port and looks hard to control
• Trauma Center: New Blood - why would i buy two TC games?
• Trauma Center: Second Opinion - good game
• Zack and Wiki - Good game
• Madden - Better without wiimote and with better graphics
• Okami - Port from the ps2... but i want it.
• No More Heroes - Looks ok
• Super Mario Strikers - Quite a Good game but not really on par with the standard of many other console games.
• Endless Ocean - I dont want to play as a diver looking for fish.

And there's others, if you are willing to look.

TwilightSoilder

"good" is in the eys of the beholder. Some i agree some i do not.

a port in my mind is a game which has been developed for one console then somewhere though the development cycle they have been muddled over to another console they have not originally been designed for. i personally HATe ultiplatform games as they are never fully optimised for the consoles they are made for and are just one big cash in for the publishers.

and as these are both part of the same generation for medal of honour i would rather play

http://www.myps3.com.au/img/game/large/Medal-of-Honor---Airborne-3.jpg

than

http://drh.img.digitalriver.com/DRHM/Storefront/Company/ea/images/detail/feature/15527_400x230_2.jpg

I would loved to of seen nintendo allow creativity but also have the option for people to play the graphically stunning games, which are just standard games we have all come to love over the last decade. Instead of being forced to make the choice (of new controller or not) in which some games work well, but some do not, and would be pretty much the same game with or without the wii-mote but if nintendo didnt design the wii-mote we would have a graphically advanced peice of hardware instead.

i love light gun games, and before the wii came out i'm not the only person to think it was not a "revolution" i nterms of technology. A lightgun mixed with motion sensitive controls in the form of a remote. Don't get me wrong things like wii sports are Great fun, but apart from that in not conviced that nintendo did the right thing with the wii mote. With games like super mario galaxy, brawl, zelda and mario kart all having standard controller options (apart from SMG but from the marathon i watched the controller seems to control no more than the star bit collecting ) shows that the wii mote is not for every game.