Conduit 2 has potenial, can HVS capitalize?

Well seems like Conduit 2 may actually be a great game as it is one of the only recent games I heard of to support both online play and split screen multiplayer. Especially since most shooters today focus simply on online play and don't bother with split screen.

So here is a list of stuff I want to see in Conduit 2:

- Larger assortment of weapons

- Make the SCAR "not suck"

- Have more varied locals, enemies, gameplay

-Do more with the ASE than simply holding a button to open a door or hack a computer

-Make the online Lobby system that is easy to use, such as the Left 4 Dead online lobby

-Make it cinematic, I want at least a couple of memorable moments to make me want to play the game again. Like the nuke in COD 4.

What do you want to see in Conduit 2. What do you think it needs to stand out not only on Wii but on all platforms?

In all honesty, HVS made the first game sound better than it was, so my assumption so far is that they're doing the same with the sequel, at least until we see more than a couple screens and read some hands-ons.

For Conduit 2 to stand out on the Wii, it doesn't need to be much. Any coherent package will stand out on the Wii at this point. Even the first game stood out, and it was blah.

For it to stand out as an FPS as a whole, though, it needs the same thing as every other FPS - a significant gameplay aspect that differentiates itself from everything else. The ASE was supposed to be that one thing in the first one, but that turned out to be just an item on a checklist ("gameplay aspect that no one else has.... check!") rather than a fundamental, game-changing part of the gameplay.

So I think your "do more with the ASE" point is the ONLY thing that matters in the end for Conduit 2 to really set itself apart. Improving the existing aspects of the first game won't be enough to raise it above the mediocre level in terms of the genre as a whole, so that means that doing more with the ASE isn't just putting more hidden messages on the walls, but rather adding some significant, gameplay-impacting features to it. Or they could ditch the ASE idea and come up with something else, but it NEEDS something.

From what I've read, they're addressing a lot of the problems I've had with the first game (lack of splitscreen, too much corridor crawling, no secondary fire, etc.). I'll have to see it to believe it, but I actually really like the first game in contrary to most, and they already have the engine and controls nailed, so they'll have more time to work on the game itself.

I still think they need to do more than inprove the use of the ASE, or otherwise replacing it with something else.

Some modern shooters have co-op modes, which I think would be a grand addition to the Conduit 2's online features.

you guys can all have fun playing it, but I'll be playing something of good quality and is fun instead

I hope they can advertise it on Tv's with good ads!

Not sometyhing like "I am Mr. Ford" then another girl says "I am Mr. Ford." and goes on and on. -_-

I think the mian problem with the conduit IMO, is that it's design has simply not aged well. It's a lot like Unreal tournament for the wii, but games like unreal tournament have not aged well. The whole run around shooting each other like super soakers, takes 10 bullets to kill someone, red vs blue, style of game is just old.

i can see this thread ending badly

Conduit 2 has a lot of potential. It's High Voltage that doesn't have the potential.wiifan001

Sadly yes. They make good games, but they don't make great games.

I'm actually hoping Conduit 2 does great. So far I'm hearing huge improvements from the game.

I'm actually hoping Conduit 2 does great. So far I'm hearing huge improvements from the game.

LegatoSkyheart

I'm still baffled by how people can have hopes for a HVS game. Their only decent game, IMO, is Gyrostarr.

High Voltage Software makes mediocre games and the Conduit has one of the most generic premises for a first person shooter ever. I don't look forward to it.

Eh, I put over 300 hours into the Conduit. And it was a bad game. It was my first ever FPS, and I only had a Wii. So, I liked it. That is, until I played another FPS and realized that it wasn't all that great. I don't have high hopes for the sequel.SoraX64

I hope that HVS can build a lot upon The Conduit in The Conduit 2. Perhaps Nintendo should send some funding their way. :o

[QUOTE="SoraX64"]Eh, I put over 300 hours into the Conduit. And it was a bad game. It was my first ever FPS, and I only had a Wii. So, I liked it. That is, until I played another FPS and realized that it wasn't all that great. I don't have high hopes for the sequel.UbiquitousAeon

Multiplayer was actually fun for awhile.

I say go smaller but more realized. Trying too many things mediocorely will hurt them. I think a solid (not amazing but just good) campaign and a refined mp with no stupid spawn glitch and less generic "red vs blue" gameplay would be a start.

Well seems like Conduit 2 may actually be a great game as it is one of the only recent games I heard of to support both online play and split screen multiplayer. Especially since most shooters today focus simply on online play and don't bother with split screen.

So here is a list of stuff I want to see in Conduit 2:

- Larger assortment of weapons

- Make the SCAR "not suck"

- Have more varied locals, enemies, gameplay

-Do more with the ASE than simply holding a button to open a door or hack a computer

-Make the online Lobby system that is easy to use, such as the Left 4 Dead online lobby

-Make it cinematic, I want at least a couple of memorable moments to make me want to play the game again. Like the nuke in COD 4.

What do you want to see in Conduit 2. What do you think it needs to stand out not only on Wii but on all platforms?

i never had the original so idk... for multiplayer:

the ability to choose a gun of your liking and use it in every match.

hopefully the hit detection accuracy is good like reflex. WaW is a bit um different.

ability to choose your character.

smooth online play (no server time outs) with no lag like reflex.

co-op online,

Looks like half and half.

Half the people here think that there is a chance of greatness with an equal chance of suckage,while the other half thinks that it will suck no matter what.

HVS can fix the problems from the first game, they just need to listen to the critics who did a good job pointing out what they did good and what they did bad.

Controls are perfect IMO, and the visuals fine, it was the fact that It felt like I was playing an old game that bothered me.

I am hoping for the best, but I am ready to accept the worst.

I think they can if they fix the issues from the first game,such as the bland art design.

Last I saw the visuals were actually worse than the first.

Eh, I put over 300 hours into the Conduit. And it was a bad game. It was my first ever FPS, and I only had a Wii. So, I liked it. That is, until I played another FPS and realized that it wasn't all that great. I don't have high hopes for the sequel.SoraX64

I think the mian problem with the conduit IMO, is that it's design has simply not aged well. It's a lot like Unreal tournament for the wii, but games like unreal tournament have not aged well. The whole run around shooting each other like super soakers, takes 10 bullets to kill someone, red vs blue, style of game is just old.

goblaa

However back on topic. Like the poster above, Conduit 2 has the potential, just not the dev.

For a developer that opened up so many possibilities for FPS controls on the Wii, they seem to be clueless in every other aspect of their game.

It's cool that they made a Wii game look like a 360 game graphically, but what was the point if the game was going to play like a run of the mill FPS from 10 years ago?

I say they completely throw out the first game's storyline and revamp the hell out of everything. So you want to do the aliens vs humans for the 100 millionth time in history? Why don't you add time travel, robots, mind controlled animals(from the aliens technology), zombies and resurrected evil masterminds from human history to the mix? Why does every battlefield have to be a building corridor or run downed streets? Sun dry sandy plains, hailing tundras, flooded terrain, underwater, pitch black eerie levels, and outer space are all common level designs in the video game industry, but when pulled off correctly it can really make a game stick out beautifully.

Ask for how the multiplayer plays: They really need to make grenades less spammy.. Or have them spawn very slowly. They need to include a sniper in the next game and make it a 1shot kill to the head and 90% 1shot kill to the torso. The limbs would require two shots to kill. I loved how they went with a HP bar for the first game i absolutely loathe regenerating health, and hope they stick to the HP bar again for the second game. If they can make more sprayers and make the game a rambofest i would approve greatly. Camping doesn't belong in a FPS, and the only way it can truly be absent is if the game is played close range spray n pray stlye.

Of course a lot of this is just a pipe dream because HVS would probably laugh at the idea of going over the top in video games. Oh how the industry has changed..

Well seems like Conduit 2 may actually be a great game as it is one of the only recent games I heard of to support both online play and split screen multiplayer. Especially since most shooters today focus simply on online play and don't bother with split screen.

So here is a list of stuff I want to see in Conduit 2:

- Larger assortment of weapons

- Make the SCAR "not suck"

- Have more varied locals, enemies, gameplay

-Do more with the ASE than simply holding a button to open a door or hack a computer

-Make the online Lobby system that is easy to use, such as the Left 4 Dead online lobby

-Make it cinematic, I want at least a couple of memorable moments to make me want to play the game again. Like the nuke in COD 4.

What do you want to see in Conduit 2. What do you think it needs to stand out not only on Wii but on all platforms?

Just give me online that's not a hack fest and a good story presentation in single player. Give me that and I'm hooked. Visuals are already good for a Wii game don't really expect much better (60 frames would be nice though, considering they are not working on the engine and making the game at the same time this time around).

It's cool that they made a Wii game look like a 360 game graphicallyPesantez

No, they didn't. It's not even the best looking game on the Wii.

Best looking =/= graphically good.

Best looking =/= graphically good.

Pesantez

Best looking technically if you prefer that, its got HORRIBLE textures.

Right.. The graphics were nothing to hail about... I was just saying thats probably the only thing along with controls the first one had going for it.

Right.. The graphics were nothing to hail about... I was just saying thats probably the only thing along with controls the first one had going for it.

Pesantez

The graphical tech was definitely there, but not the graphical art. We'll need to see more of Conduit 2 to see if the art direction has improved. However I wasn't too concerned with the art direction, but rather gameplay and story. The controls were solid to begin with, and motion plus will add another level to it. Boss battles, the use of turrets, and melee weapons should help to improve gameplay.

HVS admitted that they spent to much time trying to 'hide' the story presentation, to cater to gamers who don't care much for story or cinematics. Howvever, it is very true. There are waaaaay more gamers out there who just want to play the game than follow a story--that's why game with online multiplayer are in high demand--especially FPS. I mean I see my friends or younger relatives press the skip button before letting a scene finish. I'm not saying that every gamer is like that (I certainly like a good story presentation), but there are alot out there who don't care for story and HVS thought they were doing us a favor by making the story secondary...if not optional. However, HVS, said they will improve the presentation of the story in Conduit 2 and realized their mistake on that front. Nonetheless, I really can't fault them for that, since I see first hand how alot of gamers react to story.

In my opinion the art direction is a problem that can easily be solved with someone creative. Which HVS obviously lacks judging by the boxart.

I want Multiplayer Story mode

Conduit 2 has a lot of potential. It's High Voltage that doesn't have the potential.wiifan001

[QUOTE="Pesantez"]

Right.. The graphics were nothing to hail about... I was just saying thats probably the only thing along with controls the first one had going for it.

Tri-Enforcer

The graphical tech was definitely there, but not the graphical art. We'll need to see more of Conduit 2 to see if the art direction has improved. However I wasn't too concerned with the art direction, but rather gameplay and story. The controls were solid to begin with, and motion plus will add another level to it. Boss battles, the use of turrets, and melee weapons should help to improve gameplay.

HVS admitted that they spent to much time trying to 'hide' the story presentation, to cater to gamers who don't care much for story or cinematics. Howvever, it is very true. There are waaaaay more gamers out there who just want to play the game than follow a story--that's why game with online multiplayer are in high demand--especially FPS. I mean I see my friends or younger relatives press the skip button before letting a scene finish. I'm not saying that every gamer is like that (I certainly like a good story presentation), but there are alot out there who don't care for story and HVS thought they were doing us a favor by making the story secondary...if not optional. However, HVS, said they will improve the presentation of the story in Conduit 2 and realized their mistake on that front. Nonetheless, I really can't fault them for that, since I see first hand how alot of gamers react to story.

I don't mind a story in a game as long as it doesn't interfere with gameplay. As long as the cut scenes aren't excessive in length or number, and are skipable on at least the second playthrough, I'm fine with them. The cut scenes are one reason I didn't make it very far in Batallion Wars 2 (they were so long, corny, and unskipable).

I'm already concerned with the rail shooter levels in Conduit 2, but I'll wait and see before I condemn them for adding that.

I want Multiplayer Story mode

louisfoxton

[QUOTE="Tri-Enforcer"]

[QUOTE="Pesantez"]

Right.. The graphics were nothing to hail about... I was just saying thats probably the only thing along with controls the first one had going for it.

psychobrew

The graphical tech was definitely there, but not the graphical art. We'll need to see more of Conduit 2 to see if the art direction has improved. However I wasn't too concerned with the art direction, but rather gameplay and story. The controls were solid to begin with, and motion plus will add another level to it. Boss battles, the use of turrets, and melee weapons should help to improve gameplay.

HVS admitted that they spent to much time trying to 'hide' the story presentation, to cater to gamers who don't care much for story or cinematics. Howvever, it is very true. There are waaaaay more gamers out there who just want to play the game than follow a story--that's why game with online multiplayer are in high demand--especially FPS. I mean I see my friends or younger relatives press the skip button before letting a scene finish. I'm not saying that every gamer is like that (I certainly like a good story presentation), but there are alot out there who don't care for story and HVS thought they were doing us a favor by making the story secondary...if not optional. However, HVS, said they will improve the presentation of the story in Conduit 2 and realized their mistake on that front. Nonetheless, I really can't fault them for that, since I see first hand how alot of gamers react to story.

I don't mind a story in a game as long as it doesn't interfere with gameplay. As long as the cut scenes aren't excessive in length or number, and are skipable on at least the second playthrough, I'm fine with them. The cut scenes are one reason I didn't make it very far in Batallion Wars 2 (they were so long, corny, and unskipable).

I'm already concerned with the rail shooter levels in Conduit 2, but I'll wait and see before I condemn them for adding that.

There's rail shooter levels?? :? Where did you hear that?

[QUOTE="louisfoxton"]

I want Multiplayer Story mode

psychobrew

There's rail shooter levels?? :? Where did you hear that?

action1234

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Please tell me you're joking.Animatronic64

No thanks. I'd rather have solid gameplay that encourages me to play the levels over and over agains instead of having to sit through some boring game story over and over again whenever I want to co-op.

[QUOTE="action1234"]

There is at least one rail level where you're in a space ship shooting at other space ships (confirmed by HVS, but I'm not going to bother finding where I read it).

[QUOTE="Animatronic64"][QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Please tell me you're joking.psychobrew

No thanks. I'd rather have solid gameplay that encourages me to play the levels over and over agains instead of having to sit through some boring game story over and over again whenever I want to co-op.