Conduits graphics *flushes toilet*

okay a lot of people are saying the conduit is pushing the wii's graphics and it's one of the first 3rd party games to kick it in gear. To that I call BS! There is a much better looking game coming to the wii and it's 3rd party. Deadly Creatures.

Of course we really don't know how good the controls will be, same thing could be said for Conduit. But it looks a hell of a lot better than High voltage's tech demo and there little game.

It's not just High voltage that is trying. So stop gving them credit saying they're the only ones trying.

Besides Nintendo, most developers haven't pushed the Wii graphically. Ubisoft has some good Wii games, but none of them were technically brilliant (No More Heroes, Rayman), Capcom's games haven't either favoring more artsy games (Okami, Z&W) and I could go on.

But there's no use crying over it since those games are great despite not being as crisp and detailed as many Nintendo games.

I'd bet all my money I own to my name that the Conduit could have been played on the Xbox or the PS2. It doesn't look that great. If it has good gameplay, I'll get it. Graphics don't make a game awesome (Lair). Gameplay is what makes games awesome, graphics just help.

I'd bet all my money I own to my name that the Conduit could have been played on the Xbox or the PS2. It doesn't look that great. If it has good gameplay, I'll get it. Graphics don't make a game awesome (Lair). Gameplay is what makes games awesome, graphics just help.

NFS102

exactly what I really want to see is gameplay. Because right now it really has nothing else going for it.

non the less, pirates for wii has awesome graphicsBokBokChickon1

Pirates? Whats that?

Besides Nintendo, most developers haven't pushed the Wii graphically. Ubisoft has some good Wii games, but none of them were technically brilliant (No More Heroes, Rayman), Capcom's games haven't either favoring more artsy games (Okami, Z&W) and I could go on.

But there's no use crying over it since those games are great despite not being as crisp and detailed as many Nintendo games.

TDLlama

Ubisoft didn't make NMH.

did the Conduit get a publisher yet? It doesn't matter how good they make it if there's no publisher.

I'm rooting for them, but as far as I'm concerned...it's it in the same boat as Sadness for the moment.

i think when conduits is 100% done it will be the best looking wii game til something else.yonaswii08

Sadness is supposed to look good too.

It makes me laugh at how people are smashing this game up over a demo video. It seems to me that they were just showing some small bits of their capabilities using their engine which uses quite few resources. I got the impression that they were just showing the resource saving capabilities of their engine which would make way for the use of better graphics in the future without wasting the resources of the Wii.

Ah, your sig is awesome.omgburgerking

i agree

Deadly Creature will be great. I'm buying it.

Conduit will be the prettiest game on the Wii. No question

Also do not forget; the hype for High Voltage's tech is more than visual. It's also their pushing of AI and physics. Something Deadly creatures will not be doing.

Factor 5 is also working on techy Wii software. Again nither Deadly Creatures of Factor 5 are doing the complete package like High Voltage. That's just the way it is bro.

I hope they can pull for it.

it def looks better than a PS2 game lol @ whoever said that, but it still has time to get some work done to it as well.

Any screen pics I've ever saw for anything other than the PS360 all look like crap because they aren't capable of smooth edges like the other two (jaggies), and they always look better in motion. The Conduit seems to be in good shape so far from the screens I've seen.

again, I wanna see a PUBLISHER!!!!

Deadly Creature will be great. I'm buying it.

Conduit will be the prettiest game on the Wii. No question

Also do not forget; the hype for High Voltage's tech is more than visual. It's also their pushing of AI and physics. Something Deadly creatures will not be doing.

Factor 5 is also working on techy Wii software. Again nither Deadly Creatures of Factor 5 are doing the complete package like High Voltage. That's just the way it is bro.

Darth-Samus

Let's break this apart.

A) Deadly Creatures is from a decent dev, with only modest hands on reports. There are no real indications that it will be great.

B) You're kidding right? Right now it looks terrible. "Bu-but the tech demo!" Tech demos are tech demos, they only prove that they can render a set amount of objects in a small room. No AI, no large open worlds, no characters running around the screen, just nonmoving objects sitting in a room.

C) Their is absolutely nothing to suggest HV is pushing physics/AI, especially looking at how little they are pushing graphics.

D) What is the "complete package?" All I hear is hype from an unproven developer making a Wii game that looks generic and sub-par at this point in time. At least Factor 5 has a track record in making excellent games, even if they bombed some of their overhyped efforts (I'm looking at you, LAIR).

[QUOTE="omgburgerking"]Ah, your sig is awesome.gamer6464

i agree

it def looks better than a PS2 game lol @ whoever said that, but it still has time to get some work done to it as well.

danger_ranger95

The Conduit (Wii)

Killzone (PS2)

it def looks better than a PS2 game lol @ whoever said that,

danger_ranger95

Halo 2:

The conduit:

Tell me that the Conduit looks better than Halo 2. Cause the background walls look pretty detailed. :roll:

killzones gun does no where near look as good as the Conduits. and the example of character models you compare isn't a very good one (the first comparison). The Killzone soldier is too far away to even notice if it looks better or not.

I never said anything about Halo or the orginal Xbox either, so I don't understan why that was thrown in there.

Right now the Conduit does not look that great from a grafix stand point but the game is very early in developement so there will most likely be drastic improvements.

edit: expect this game to hit shelve in a year at the earliest.

I really wouldn't post Halo pics for graphical comparison. Everyone knows Halo games are never graphical powerhouses (including Halo 3). But, I'm pretty sure that Conduit does not look as good as Ninja Gaiden....Mac8457

umm..what the hel r u talking abt..halo 1 and 2 were graphical powerhouses when they first released

[QUOTE="Mac8457"]I really wouldn't post Halo pics for graphical comparison. Everyone knows Halo games are never graphical powerhouses (including Halo 3). But, I'm pretty sure that Conduit does not look as good as Ninja Gaiden....Ironre5

umm..what the hel r u talking abt..halo 1 and 2 were graphical powerhouses when they first released

"Halo has always had a very strong artistic vision, and the graphics have always been just good enough to convey the necessary imagery without becoming huge technical powerhouses."

It seems the reviewers tend to agree with me. You've just been served.

[QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

it def looks better than a PS2 game lol @ whoever said that,

NFS102

Halo 2:

The conduit:

Tell me that the Conduit looks better than Halo 2. Cause the background walls look pretty detailed. :roll:

[QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="Mac8457"]I really wouldn't post Halo pics for graphical comparison. Everyone knows Halo games are never graphical powerhouses (including Halo 3). But, I'm pretty sure that Conduit does not look as good as Ninja Gaiden....Mac8457

umm..what the hel r u talking abt..halo 1 and 2 were graphical powerhouses when they first released

"Halo has always had a very strong artistic vision, and the graphics have always been just good enough to convey the necessary imagery without becoming huge technical powerhouses."

It seems the reviewers tend to agree with me. You've just been served.

[QUOTE="Mac8457"][QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="Mac8457"]I really wouldn't post Halo pics for graphical comparison. Everyone knows Halo games are never graphical powerhouses (including Halo 3). But, I'm pretty sure that Conduit does not look as good as Ninja Gaiden....TwilightSoilder

umm..what the hel r u talking abt..halo 1 and 2 were graphical powerhouses when they first released

"Halo has always had a very strong artistic vision, and the graphics have always been just good enough to convey the necessary imagery without becoming huge technical powerhouses."

It seems the reviewers tend to agree with me. You've just been served.

When these sorts of threads come up, I have to ask why exactly we seem to care which games have the "best" graphics. The fact remains that the Wii has some fantastic looking games: Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Okami, and others. So why does it matter if Conduit's graphics are "the best EVAR!" or if the game just looks great. People here sometimes have a hard time realizing that just because a game doesn't look the best doesn't mean it looks BAD. And they have an even harder time realizing that good graphics don't make a game good -- it's gameplay that does that. So what we should be arguing over, really, is whether or not Conduit's gameplay will outstrip that of other Wii games. My two cents, anyway...bluej33

No, the graphics really do look bad. Also, I'm tired of hearing Gameplay > Graphics as an excuse for poor visuals. Yes, it's true but devs should really be delivering great gameplay and graphics, especially when the games look terrible from an artistic and technical point of view. I'm tired of seeing PS2 quality graphics, devs should learn to deliver the whole package and not use one piece as a substitute for another.

[QUOTE="bluej33"]When these sorts of threads come up, I have to ask why exactly we seem to care which games have the "best" graphics. The fact remains that the Wii has some fantastic looking games: Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Okami, and others. So why does it matter if Conduit's graphics are "the best EVAR!" or if the game just looks great. People here sometimes have a hard time realizing that just because a game doesn't look the best doesn't mean it looks BAD. And they have an even harder time realizing that good graphics don't make a game good -- it's gameplay that does that. So what we should be arguing over, really, is whether or not Conduit's gameplay will outstrip that of other Wii games. My two cents, anyway...metroidfood

No, the graphics really do look bad. Also, I'm tired of hearing Gameplay > Graphics as an excuse for poor visuals. Yes, it's true but devs should really be delivering great gameplay and graphics, especially when the games look terrible from an artistic and technical point of view. I'm tired of seeing PS2 quality graphics, devs should learn to deliver the whole package and not use one piece as a substitute for another.

[QUOTE="TwilightSoilder"][QUOTE="Mac8457"][QUOTE="Ironre5"]

[QUOTE="Mac8457"]I really wouldn't post Halo pics for graphical comparison. Everyone knows Halo games are never graphical powerhouses (including Halo 3). But, I'm pretty sure that Conduit does not look as good as Ninja Gaiden....Mac8457

umm..what the hel r u talking abt..halo 1 and 2 were graphical powerhouses when they first released

"Halo has always had a very strong artistic vision, and the graphics have always been just good enough to convey the necessary imagery without becoming huge technical powerhouses."

It seems the reviewers tend to agree with me. You've just been served.

[QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

it def looks better than a PS2 game lol @ whoever said that,

NFS102

Halo 2:

The conduit:

Tell me that the Conduit looks better than Halo 2. Cause the background walls look pretty detailed. :roll:

I'm mad u guys are comparing a finished game to a unfinished game.......

[QUOTE="NFS102"][QUOTE="danger_ranger95"]

it def looks better than a PS2 game lol @ whoever said that,

gamefan67

Halo 2:

The conduit:

Tell me that the Conduit looks better than Halo 2. Cause the background walls look pretty detailed. :roll:

I'm mad u guys are comparing a finished game to a unfinished game.......

You test poorly when it comes to reading comprehension don't you? Please, read the excerpt on graphics from the Halo 3 review with your parents and have them explain it to you. I don't blame you for your inept ability to read, I blame the public school system.Mac8457

Did I really call you a name? Please show me the exact quote. All I was saying is that I don't believe you are comprehending what the Gamespot reviewer was trying to say.Mac8457

Maybe they aren't the only ones, but one of few. They are making an effort to make a decent game for the Wii, at least, so they deserve some credit. Other comnpanies just release shovelware for the Wii.

gamefan67

Trying to make a good game is commendable. Bragging about how you're pushing the Wii and advancing gameplay (when it is apparent you're not in at least one area) is not.

I'm mad u guys are comparing a finished game to a unfinished game.......

gamefan67

If the dev is going to brag about high quality graphics and release these kinds of screenshots then there's no reason not to compare them. Could they improve? Sure, but that doesn't give the dev the right to boast about what may happen in the future.

I would like you to go read the Halo 3 review and explain to me what the reviewer meant then. Please enlighten me.Mac8457

[QUOTE="gamefan67"]

Maybe they aren't the only ones, but one of few. They are making an effort to make a decent game for the Wii, at least, so they deserve some credit. Other comnpanies just release shovelware for the Wii.

metroidfood

Trying to make a good game is commendable. Bragging about how you're pushing the Wii and advancing gameplay (when it is apparent you're not in at least one area) is not.

I'm mad u guys are comparing a finished game to a unfinished game.......

gamefan67

If the dev is going to brag about high quality graphics and release these kinds of screenshots then there's no reason not to compare them. Could they improve? Sure, but that doesn't give the dev the right to boast about what may happen in the future.

Well in my opinion the graphics dont look as bad as some of the other forumites make them out to be. I believe the screens released are only in the alpha stage and they still look better than most Wii 3rd party games.

"The Wii platform is capable of a lot more than what consumers have seen so far. We're hoping to raise a new bar."

I believe that HV is calling out all other 3rd parties to get off their lazy arses and really try to develop for Wii (not only graphics-wise), and I can't get mad at them for that. I just hope that The Quantam 3 Engine and The Conduit can fulfill on their promises.

[QUOTE="Mac8457"]I would like you to go read the Halo 3 review and explain to me what the reviewer meant then. Please enlighten me.TwilightSoilder

come on guys we're all friends here:)

Is all this really necessary?