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#1 musicman748
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i do i think they should be 200 points cheaper

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#2 big_boy_down23
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meh...
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#3 freakonature24
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I think they are good prices but the SNES titles could be 100 to 200 points cheaper.

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#4 Blk-Gnome
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if all of them dropped 200 i would buy a ton more than i do.

for some games its worth it. 8bucks for super metroid is great...but thats only because of what an awesome game metroid is.

that much for a game that was only ok, it would feel very over priced.

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#5 jacksheets
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No, they're quite fair actually. Think of what some people were paying on Ebay trying to track down a lot of these classic games before the VC.

$10 for Paper Mario is the most fun I've gotten out of 10 dollars in a long time.

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#6 rjs927
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Hells no! They are fine how they are you cheapskate. Did you ever have to buy one of the original games these are worlds cheaper with the same great game. $10 is the most you have to pay for a great game and you can get one for $5 Nintendo has to make some money!
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#7 Blk-Gnome
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Hells no! They are fine how they are you cheapskate. Did you ever have to buy one of the original games these are worlds cheaper with the same great game. $10 is the most you have to pay for a great game and you can get one for $5 Nintendo has to make some money!rjs927

they are licencing roms, it doesnt cost them to develop the game. they are making money off games they alredy made a profit off...again. no matter what they priced it at they would make money...unless they gave you money to download the game.

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#8 jacksheets
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[QUOTE="rjs927"]Hells no! They are fine how they are you cheapskate. Did you ever have to buy one of the original games these are worlds cheaper with the same great game. $10 is the most you have to pay for a great game and you can get one for $5 Nintendo has to make some money!Blk-Gnome

they are licencing roms, it doesnt cost them to develop the game. they are making money off games they alredy made a profit off...again. no matter what they priced it at they would make money...unless they gave you money to download the game.

You do realize a company's goal is to make money? All of that money goes back into research and development and to fund projects to keep Nintendo alive and well. I realize I already bought Mario 64 years ago, but who knows where that game of mine went and if I wanna drop $10 to get it back I don't have a problem with that. Nintendo racking in cash on the Virtual Console is great for the company and more money for them means better games and more support for us in the future.

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#9 JAB991
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I haven't bought a VC game yet despite the fact there are pleanty I want. If They were all dropped by 300 points then I would buy them.
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#10 Blk-Gnome
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[QUOTE="Blk-Gnome"]

[QUOTE="rjs927"]Hells no! They are fine how they are you cheapskate. Did you ever have to buy one of the original games these are worlds cheaper with the same great game. $10 is the most you have to pay for a great game and you can get one for $5 Nintendo has to make some money!jacksheets

they are licencing roms, it doesnt cost them to develop the game. they are making money off games they alredy made a profit off...again. no matter what they priced it at they would make money...unless they gave you money to download the game.

You do realize a company's goal is to make money? All of that money goes back into research and development and to fund projects to keep Nintendo alive and well. I realize I already bought Mario 64 years ago, but who knows where that game of mine went and if I wanna drop $10 to get it back I don't have a problem with that. Nintendo racking in cash on the Virtual Console is great for the company and more money for them means better games and more support for us in the future.

yeah their goal is to make money. i didnt say give it to me for free now did i?

i said i wanted them 100-200 points cheaper, doing so would increase the number of VC titles downloaded, thus still making them a crap load of money off of roms.

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#11 jacksheets
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I'm not trying to argue with you with this reply, just further the discussion... but they've obviously thought out the pricing scheme thoroughly and have set the price points the way they did for a reason.

For a pretty fitting analogy: You'd think people would buy a lot more snacks and stuff at the movie theater if milk duds weren't $2.50 and a large soda wasn't $4.00 but people are, and they're obviously in business to make as much money as possible and must be doing something right.

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#12 Blk-Gnome
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I'm not trying to argue with you with this reply, just further the discussion... but they've obviously thought out the pricing scheme thoroughly and have set the price points the way they did for a reason.

For a pretty fitting analogy: You'd think people would buy a lot more snacks and stuff at the movie theater if milk duds weren't $2.50 and a large soda wasn't $4.00 but people are, and they're obviously in business to make as much money as possible and must be doing something right.

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but because ofthe high prices at the movie theater lots of people are turned off and wont buy those snacks and drinks.

demand would rise as price drops.

its basic economics. like i posted i would only buy great old titles at their current prices, i wouldnt think about an average or even mediocre game at the current prices.

movie theaters main source of income is the drinks and candy, and they know people will buy it there just because its convienient.

nintendo offering roms on the wii is convienient over looking for illegal roms, but that doesnt stop them from setting the price over what the consumer wants to pay. everyone hates the movie drink prices.

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#13 nintendofreak_2
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No, they are priced fairly.
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#14 flowingluc
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yes they are too over priced. I want to be able to buy some games at 2$.
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#15 deactivated-5967f36c08c33
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Depends on the quality of the game.
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#16 Andy639_basic
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I would hardly call ten bucks for Paper Mario over priced.

Sure, Nintendo could price them cheaper and still be making money, but I don't know that it would raise the sales all that much. Many VCS games, quite frankly, aren't any good. Nobody's gonna be downloading Urban Champion for anything but nostalgia or review purposes, no matter how little it costs.

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#17 tribalnewt
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my local videogame store jacks up the price on snes games, so istead of spending $25 on a game i can buy one for 10.l... i think that is a deal

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#18 shenron53
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just a few games should be lowered in price
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#19 FFXIsAstyanax
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Was hoping for a poll, but oh well. No, I think they're priced just fine. I would rather pay $8 for DKC2 or ALttP than replace the carts that I've worn out over the last 10-15 years. I wouldn't buy more games just because they're priced lower -- the games I want are the games I'm going to buy. If you want the game enough, you'll pay the price. If you don't want to pay $8 for a game, then I guess you don't want it enough. Costs and benefits, my friends.
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#20 AsadMahdi59
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yes vc is over priced imo

this is how it should be

NES- 300

Snes-600

N64-800

Genesis-500

turbo grafix 16-400-500

compare to xbla downloads. streets of rage 2 with better graphics and online multiplayer costs $5 while the original unenhanced one on vc costs $8.

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#21 meimnobody
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Sigh why do people keep bringing up this? The prices are fine. The prices cover the licensing, royallty and also pay for the wiiconnect 24 service.

They did have to do work on the vc games. They had to code in the manuals, code in the save interupt feature, test it, submit it to the various agencies to get it rated. All of that costs money often far more money then you would think.

Also the profit margin is what is attracting a lot of third parties to put their games on the vc. Titles that people thought would never have come out are being put on the vc. More western developers are going to pledge vc support in the coming months. Also they are going to be localizing titles that were never released in certain regions before. Australia has gotten tg-16 games the console was never released there. That isn't an easy goal to accomplish you have to go into negotians etc and pay money to do that since the royalty owners likely don't have a corporate prescence in Australia. Aussies are also going to be getting NES, SNES, N64 titles that were never released there.

It is incredibly likely the NA vc will get Sin and Punishment.

Guess what it still makes money to localize those titles. Guess what pays for those localizations and free download as much as you want when you buy the license to download? Those five dollars for NES games. Once again for what the price brings it is an incredible bargin and the market supports the price.

Lowering price when your sales are fine and making you a bundle is a suicide move. Xbox live only reduced prices because their sales were **** on a lot of titles.

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#22 Death_Razor
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Some of them are. I find quite stupid that you can only buy points in blocs of 1000 points (cards are only 2000) and that some game cost 800. IMO all game but N64 should be 500 points and N64 games should be 1000 points (like they are now)
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#23 meimnobody
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Some of them are. I find quite stupid that you can only buy points in blocs of 1000 points (cards are only 2000) and that some game cost 800. IMO all game but N64 should be 500 points and N64 games should be 1000 points (like they are now)Death_Razor

It's clear you don't understand the brilliance behind the pricing structure of the points.

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#24 FFXIsAstyanax
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Some of them are. I find quite stupid that you can only buy points in blocs of 1000 points (cards are only 2000) and that some game cost 800. IMO all game but N64 should be 500 points and N64 games should be 1000 points (like they are now)Death_Razor


It doesn't make little sense. If you buy an SNES game, you have 200 extra points that you'll want to spend on another game. But you need to spend another $10 to get another game. In order for it to even out, you have to purchase more points and more games. It's like buying a 10 pack of hot dogs and an 8 or 12 pack of buns. From a business standpoint (and remember, Nintendo is a business) it's a great move.
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#25 kingqaz
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They did have to do work on the vc games. They had to code in the manuals, code in the save interupt feature, test it, submit it to the various agencies to get it rated. All of that costs money often far more money then you would think. meimnobody

I agree people think they just snap their fingers and the games are suddenly on the VC, it's not like that it actually does cost money.
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#26 ice_radon
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if all of them dropped 200 i would buy a ton more than i do.

for some games its worth it. 8bucks for super metroid is great...but thats only because of what an awesome game metroid is.

that much for a game that was only ok, it would feel very over priced.

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Yeah, totally 5 bucks for NES roms is terrible. And 8 bucks for a lot of SNES games is kinda high, and if N64 games went down to 8 bucks I think that there would be a lot more sales just because the prices are more on target of what people might think about paying for for a 10-20 year old game...
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#27 FFXIsAstyanax
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Yeah, totally 5 bucks for NES roms is terrible. ice_radon


It all depends on the game. The original Zelda, Metroid, Zelda II, Arch Rivals, all three SMB games, Rescue: the Embassy Mission. Those are all games I'm getting for the VC, and that's just a list off the top of my head. Like I said before: weigh the costs against the benefits. If you're not willing to pay, you don't want the game enough.
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#28 Death_Razor
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[QUOTE="Death_Razor"]Some of them are. I find quite stupid that you can only buy points in blocs of 1000 points (cards are only 2000) and that some game cost 800. IMO all game but N64 should be 500 points and N64 games should be 1000 points (like they are now)FFXIsAstyanax


It doesn't make little sense. If you buy an SNES game, you have 200 extra points that you'll want to spend on another game. But you need to spend another $10 to get another game. In order for it to even out, you have to purchase more points and more games. It's like buying a 10 pack of hot dogs and an 8 or 12 pack of buns. From a business standpoint (and remember, Nintendo is a business) it's a great move.

No I understand that but from my point of view I would prefer if they didnt do that. The less it cost the better :P

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#29 Bass7
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I think it's completely fine. If people are still buying VC games, then they should keep the prices that way. Though some games do need a price drop (because some games are definately not worth the 5$ -_-). lol.
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#30 Keenzach
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I would rather buy then on vc or spend more money for them on ebay

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#31 Duckman5
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They are more expensive than cartridges yes but cartridges die on you eventually. These will not.
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#32 secretagentx9
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To the guy who used XBLA as an example with Streets of Rage 2, if you figure in the additional cost of what he was paying to use XBL that day, it's probably fairly close in price to getting it from the Virtual Console which comes with no monthly subscription fee.
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#34 meimnobody
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People whining about a few measely dollars (if this game was $3 instead of $5, blah blah blah) need to get a job.jacksheets

No they need a sense of perspetive and understand how a succesfull plan works. The market supports the price and the profit margin is quite good as well as attracting more third parties to put their games.

Xbox live they have to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to get the measly amount of games they get. They are seriously deep in the red due to their ill advised business models.

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#35 staley6565
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People whining about a few measely dollars (if this game was $3 instead of $5, blah blah blah) need to get a job.jacksheets

You don't need to be unemployed to want a more reasonable price. I love me some Nintendo classics, but the whole concept of the virtual console is already getting kinda old since we've been doing it for years on emulators. Also, with the PSN you can get PS games for 6 bucks, unless they've already been price pointed elsewhere like on XBL, and the value of those games is arguably double since you have the option of taking them portable as well.

I'm not complaining, because no one is holding a gun to my head with VC purchases, but just imagine how much it'd kick major ass to have NES-2, SNES-4, 64-6 as a price point...I'd buy so much more of those random non AAA titles if that were true.

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#37 Cowmanik
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The thing is I can get Sega games for $2.50 at most, in certain stores. Sure cartridges don't last forever but they'll last a good forty years if they are kept in fairly dry places. I don't think I'll regret it that much if a Sega game stops working when I'm sixty years old.
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#38 anolecrabcf
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I can spare a few bucks to avoid cartridges switching and I think having all the games on the wii is very practical and the price is good not cheap but not very expensive either
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#39 imafreshman
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My local Gamestop has all the old game like snes, nintendo 64 games for a dollar or so.
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#40 Cowmanik
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I can spare a few bucks to avoid cartridges switching and I think having all the games on the wii is very practical and the price is good not cheap but not very expensive eitheranolecrabcf

Yeah the price is just about right, of course it could be cheaper but it's fair. I'll stick with my Genesis for my Sonic games though it just doesn't feel right if I'm not inserting a cartridge, but I'm old fashioned.

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#41 m_machine024
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Most NES games aren't worth 5$.
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#42 Cowmanik
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Most NES games aren't worth 5$.m_machine024

I remember back in the day I could find some NES games like Soccer and Tennis at "The Dollar Store."

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OFCOURSE!! no doubt about it
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#44 M_H_3000
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Hell to tha Motha ****ing Yeah they are over priced. they should range from 1 - 5 bucks

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#45 bretthorror
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Anyone who knows anything about game pricing knows they're high. One only needs to look at the Sega Genesis Collection, it has 30+ games on it and retails for $20. If they are making money at way under a dollar per game, and that's with stores making their profits, packaging, materials, etc... they're making way too much on the VC.

It's like others have stated. $8 for Super Metroid, fine. $5 for NES Tennis, come on now. Make the prices fairer so it's not only the cream of the crop being put on people's Wiis. With all the compilations out there, it's pretty easy to say that they're overcharging and anyone who can't see this is delusional.

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#46 dekasuperlink
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Anyone who knows anything about game pricing knows they're high. One only needs to look at the Sega Genesis Collection, it has 30+ games on it and retails for $20. If they are making money at way under a dollar per game, and that's with stores making their profits, packaging, materials, etc... they're making way too much on the VC.

It's like others have stated. $8 for Super Metroid, fine. $5 for NES Tennis, come on now. Make the prices fairer so it's not only the cream of the crop being put on people's Wiis. With all the compilations out there, it's pretty easy to say that they're overcharging and anyone who can't see this is delusional.

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#47 meimnobody
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Those compliations are often quite buggy and the emulation is of often poor quality. Plus most people often just want one or two games from the compliation so why bother to pay for the rest when you only want one or two and most people admit they don't want to put in the compliation disc and wade threw 20 game options to get the one they want to play?

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#48 LOLhahaDEAD
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No, but it would be nice if they were cheaper.
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#49 jeordie015
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I've thought about this, and I came up with the idea that it would be cool if they lowered the prices by a dollar or two for games that have been purchased more than so many times. Similar to console Player's Choice games. So I figure for all the good popular games, if you didn't want to spend quite as much, you could just wait about a year or whatever and get it for $2 cheaper.
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#50 paradigm68
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I think 10$ is a good price for a n64 game, SNS could be like 100 points cheaper but not a big deal imo