Heavy Rain on the Wii?

Well not sepcifically that game but a game very similar to it gameplay wise.

When I first played heavy rain it came off as a game that could truely benefeit from motion controls like those offered on the wii, the way you interact with enviorments and all the combat in that game would be perfect for wii controls!

If you've played the game or demo you'll know what I'm talking about.

Turning the wii-mote to turn a door knob, throwing punches with the wii-mote in fight scenes ect, some developer should do it!

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

Imprecise wii motion controls really haven't stopped developers from testing their games in the wii's waters before?

Plus with the M+ they should be able to pull it off!

Sure the Wii is a perfect system for Adventure games (visual novels, point & click,interactive movies, ETC). I do not own a Wii yet but I wouldn't mind seeing Interactive movies on the system. Off topic I also find the DS a good system for Adventure titles (mainly point & visual novels) I.E Htel Dusk, Trace Memories, Broken Sword, the Ace Attorney games

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

It won't be Hard,

a lot of pointing a shaking would be implemented but it can happen. and It would probably be done well.

i wouldnt mind if the wii had at least 1 of those games..

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

I don't even know what Heavy Rain is...:? ..... .....Oh, another M rated title. Yeah, I'll support that :roll: and it will sell very well :roll: See, just by looking at the boxart you can tell to an extent how it will sell. New IPs that are Rated Mature on the wii do not sell well. Ever.

I don't even know what Heavy Rain is...:? ..... .....Oh, another M rated title. Yeah, I'll support that :roll: and it will sell very well :roll: See, just by looking at the boxart you can tell to an extent how it will sell. New IPs on the wii do not sell well. Ever.wiifan001

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No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

nini200

I don't even know what Heavy Rain is...:? ..... .....Oh, another M rated title. Yeah, I'll support that :roll: and it will sell very well :roll: See, just by looking at the boxart you can tell to an extent how it will sell. New IPs that are Rated Mature on the wii do not sell well. Ever.

wiifan001

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No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

funsohng

Wii is perfect for adventure games. Look at Tales of Monkey Island, Zack and Wiki, Strong Bad, Super Mario Galaxy. You get the idea. I would love to see (and play!) a Heavy Rain style adventure game on the Wii.

To the people who think motion controls couldn't be pulled off, wm+ should fix the problem. And the game could also sport classic controller control!

the wii is more of a casual console whereas a game like Heavy Rain really isnt for the casual gamer. IT wouldnt sell well

I don't even know what Heavy Rain is...:? ..... .....Oh, another M rated title. Yeah, I'll support that :roll: and it will sell very well :roll: See, just by looking at the boxart you can tell to an extent how it will sell. New IPs that are Rated Mature on the wii do not sell well. Ever.

wiifan001

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

What?... The Wii Remote is more accurate than the Six Axis controller.

Also, there is the Wii Motion Plus.

The game won't come to the Wii, but that's not the reason why.

I don't even know what Heavy Rain is...:? ..... .....Oh, another M rated title. Yeah, I'll support that :roll: and it will sell very well :roll: See, just by looking at the boxart you can tell to an extent how it will sell. New IPs that are Rated Mature on the wii do not sell well. Ever.

I'm always up for games like Heavy Rain!

I don't even know what Heavy Rain is...:? ..... .....Oh, another M rated title. Yeah, I'll support that :roll: and it will sell very well :roll: See, just by looking at the boxart you can tell to an extent how it will sell. New IPs that are Rated Mature on the wii do not sell well. Ever.

[QUOTE="wiifan001"][QUOTE="thedude-"] All the M rated content on Wii has been extremely niche and hard to sell. RE4 is AAA caliber M rated game that sold extremely well. But it is true that M rated games serve an uphill battle we just do not know how much that is as Deadspace: E, Madworld, and NMH are all extremely niche.thedude-

While the quicktime events would benefit from the controls, a lot of what made Heavy Rain good was it's production values. If the game didn't look as well as it does, they it wouldn't have been as good.

[QUOTE="thedude-"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] Resident Evil 4 wasn't a new IP. That and Call of Duty World at War and Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles are the only M rated games that I would say did remarkable on the Wii...but Resident Evil and Call of Duty were very well known, and RE4 was a freekin Gamecube port for crying out loud. The highest selling M rated game that was a new IP was what...Madworld, No More Heroes? They don't sell. The developers try their best to appeal to, as the gaming forums describe, a niche title. Since the casual gaming audience is almost the entire audience of the wii, that's why these new IPs are niche.wiifan001

Indigo Prophecy 2?

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

funsohng

I'm with these guys. The Wii Remote just has not been able to properly pull off what I want it to at all times and it does get annoying. Not to the point where I hate the game or anything, but it gets annoying.

[QUOTE="thedude-"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] Resident Evil 4 wasn't a new IP. That and Call of Duty World at War and Resident Evil Umbrella Chronicles are the only M rated games that I would say did remarkable on the Wii...but Resident Evil and Call of Duty were very well known, and RE4 was a freekin Gamecube port for crying out loud. The highest selling M rated game that was a new IP was what...Madworld, No More Heroes? They don't sell. The developers try their best to appeal to, as the gaming forums describe, a niche title. Since the casual gaming audience is almost the entire audience of the wii, that's why these new IPs are niche.wiifan001

At this point in time I doubt too many companies would be willing to bring an M game to the Wii. They haven't been selling well. I know you guys point out that it takes big guns first and not the unique stuff, but that's what the Wii was positioned as and that's what developers made.

At this point I doubt too many of the major M rated games will make their way over to the Wii. First party stuff like Halo, Killzone, Gears of War and Resistance are the new shooter names for the PS3 and 360, but Nintendo didn't try the waters themselves. Once that stuff took off the major third party games followed. Sure Call of Duty has made it's way to the Wii, but that's it.

The first-party needs to show what can succeed on a platform first. MS killed everyone with Gears of War and showed Halo still has it, Sony showed Resistance as a new IP and Killzone 2 as a comeback winner. What did Nintendo allow, stiff presentation, dull AI and boring firefights in Metroid Prime 3 and then they didn't follow up with it again. On the N64 Goldeneye and Perfect Dark took care of business and other shooters came (most after Goldeneye) to fill in the system's library. Nintendo themselves never tried to put a proper M game out there to show that it can sell on the system. In my eyes that's the problem, the first party never proved that it could be done, that the Wii a viable system for M games.

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No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

funsohng

Hahaha i remember those. I got stuck for like twenty mintues on a few of them cuz of the controls! T'was truely a mess.

I concur with you guys.

I'd say it have to use WM+ but yeah, definitely could work.

Indigo Prophecy 2?

JuarN18

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No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

kenakuma

Imprecise wii motion controls really haven't stopped developers from testing their games in the wii's waters before?

Plus with the M+ they should be able to pull it off!

Yeah but the point is you don't make the game unless you make it work flawlessly

Imagine playing ten hours then the Wiimote doesn't respond to one motion and the story goes into a completely different direction that isn't the outcome you wanted. Now you could have a "do over" ability but that kills a lot of the game's mood if it holds your hand that much.

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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"]

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

Imprecise wii motion controls really haven't stopped developers from testing their games in the wii's waters before?

Plus with the M+ they should be able to pull it off!

Yeah but the point is you don't make the game unless you make it work flawlessly

Imagine playing ten hours then the Wiimote doesn't respond to one motion and the story goes into a completely different direction that isn't the outcome you wanted. Now you could have a "do over" ability but that kills a lot of the game's mood if it holds your hand that much.

Look at all the shovelware wii games that have flawed motion control. They sell like hotcakes! Now of course we would want the developers to take their time if they were implementing motion control. Now look at Wii Sports Resort and Tiger Woods PGA '10. Fabulous control. There is still the possibility of your wiimote flat out wreaking but I think they could pull of decent and innovative motion control.

I think they should come up with a deeper than Heavy Rain experience on the wii, since the wiimotion+ can mimic every single movement of ones hand. I can't help but think that, if they ever do something Heavy Rain like for the wii, it would be nunchuck action + wagglefest.

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

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No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

razu2444

ANY controller does better

When you make a gesture with a thumbstick it's picked up exactly as you did it, when you press a button it's picked up 100 out of 100 times

Until there's a motion controller that does that (which the Wiimote can not) it's not smart to make a game that relies on motions

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No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

ANY controller does better

When you make a gesture with a thumbstick it's picked up exactly as you did it, when you press a button it's picked up 100 out of 100 times

Until there's a motion controller that does that (which the Wiimote can not) it's not smart to make a game that relies on motions

I was about to respond the same thing.

Dont get me wrong I love motion controls and the idea of them but imo a standard dual analog controller is still 100 times better and more effective.

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[QUOTE="razu2444"] wow you say it as though the PS3 dual analogue controller can do better? Jason, is there ever a time when you are optomistic about the Wii rather than pessimistic?kenakuma

ANY controller does better

When you make a gesture with a thumbstick it's picked up exactly as you did it, when you press a button it's picked up 100 out of 100 times

Until there's a motion controller that does that (which the Wiimote can not) it's not smart to make a game that relies on motions

I was about to respond the same thing.

Dont get me wrong I love motion controls and the idea of them but imo a standard dual analog controller is still 100 times better and more effective.

But you have to consider after one generation motion controls have made a huge leap. Analog sticks took a couple generations to get it right and no one realizes this. Motion controls have a whole ocean of possibilities while analogs have met their potential.thedude-

Yeah I realize that.

Right now motion controls are definetly at that dis-advantage. They havent been around as long (while your standard controller has been around for ages evolving and improving) plus the video games in general have evolved along/around your standard controller making motion controls very hard to implement and to make them work as well as your standard controller.

They'll take over eventualy, its just gonna take a very loooooong time!

Well not sepcifically that game but a game very similar to it gameplay wise.

When I first played heavy rain it came off as a game that could truely benefeit from motion controls like those offered on the wii, the way you interact with enviorments and all the combat in that game would be perfect for wii controls!

If you've played the game or demo you'll know what I'm talking about.

Turning the wii-mote to turn a door knob, throwing punches with the wii-mote in fight scenes ect, some developer should do it!

kenakuma

Absolutely! I couldn't nderstand why a single person would not want such a lauded type of video game experience on their system.

Buy Silent Hill Shattered Memories...

Absolutely! I couldn't nderstand why a single person would not want such a lauded type of video game experience on their system.

Darth-Samus

I think all the no votes are either from ppl who are doubting it because they think it wont sell and be a flop (which isnt really even what I was asking) or their just trolls from the other boards who see a "heavy rain on wii" topic and feel obligated to come in and vote no.

Though their are some people who did come up with reasonable reasons as to why not, but only a few ppl, not enough to support all those no votes.

No, the Wiimote is not sophisticated enough to perform all those actions correctly 100 out of 100 times and to destroy your game because the controller doesn't pick up your actions flawlessly would make for many users having very bad days

Jaysonguy

I would rather a Bioshock 1/2 port, tbh.