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#1 wiretoss
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Okokok. This board is flooded with "What games do you want for the Wii." Or "What games do you want to be announced at E3". I've become HIGHLY annoyed at fellow Wii gamers on this board the last week. Why? I'll explain.

In these topics I see littering this board, you all scream and shout for more Nintendo 1st party titles. Only natural, considering Nintendo is debatedly the best developer ever. Don't get me wrong, I love Zelda, Mario, Pikmin, Starfox, etc. as much as the next Nintendo fan... but is this all you want?

I think I've seen MAYBE one other person besides myself say "More games from 3rd party developers."

I'm urging you to WANT MORE than JUST another Zelda from Nintendo. Or JUST another Mario game. Sheesh. This is one of the biggest reasons people bash the Wii. "Awful 3rd party support." And maybe the reason is the Wii owners that ONLY live off of 1st party games.

There's many great 3rd party games out there for the Wii. (EDIT: Not to mention promising looking 3rd party titles in store for us in the future.)

Just something to think about. Any thoughts?

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#2 Jaysonguy
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Everything I want to say on the subject will make people feel bad and I'l be suspended probably so I guess I say "There's a lot of good games on the Wii"

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#3 -Sigil-
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Sue the board.
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#4 makaveli_89
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They are saying this, because it is speculation and they really believe this is an opportunity for Nintendo to reveal some of their big games for the major franchises. It's not about not wanting 3rd party games. They are always welcome. I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

Many people just believe Nintendo will reveal a lot of their line-up.

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#5 Jaysonguy
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I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

makaveli_89

No, they're out there, there's a lot of them.

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#6 wiretoss
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Sue the board.-Sigil-
It's obviously not just this board. I know other Wii owners that have this same mindset. They bought the Wii just to play Nintendo games.
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#7 Power_Wrist
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Nintendo fans are amost crusader-like in their zealotry for nintendo's first party titles. I say bring on more 3rd party titles. We all could use more "No More Heroes"
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#8 -Sigil-
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[QUOTE="-Sigil-"]Sue the board.wiretoss
It's obviously not just this board. I know other Wii owners that have this same mindset. They bought the Wii just to play Nintendo games.

Well, I see where your aiming at but considering that Nintendo consoles havent had great 3rd party support since the snes, its kind of hard to expect or want anything from them.

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#9 webbut
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Its cause of the Nintendo new fan boys, Old nintendo fan boys are pretty koul but lots of the new ones can be annoying with that stuff wanting new stuff, Wanting nintendo to make a Zelda game but make it more like Halo2 and other strange requests. but its all good. i just think they should just make a single offical thread instead of making a new one ever 3days.
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#10 goblaa
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Well, maybe if sheep were buying third party games...

I'd say right now there are more quality 3rd party games out than 1st party game.

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#11 wiretoss
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[QUOTE="wiretoss"][QUOTE="-Sigil-"]Sue the board.-Sigil-

It's obviously not just this board. I know other Wii owners that have this same mindset. They bought the Wii just to play Nintendo games.

Well, I see where your aiming at but considering that Nintendo consoles havent had great 3rd party support since the snes, its kind of hard to expect or want anything from them.

Did you live through the gamecube? If you did, you BETTER expect something more.
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#12 shadimoscouplos
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Its cause of the Nintendo new fan boys, Old nintendo fan boys are pretty koul but lots of the new ones can be annoying with that stuff wanting new stuff, Wanting nintendo to make a Zelda game but make it more like Halo2 and other strange requests. but its all good. i just think they should just make a single offical thread instead of making a new one ever 3days. webbut

u know the original metroid, right? some dude wanted metroi to have online like halo.... wtf?

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#13 ECG_24
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I bought the Wii for Nintendo titles, if I wanted a wealth of good third party games I would have purchased an Xbox 360 or PS3. Now while there are a few good third party Wii games, the vast majority of good Wii games are and will continue to be first party. I gladly buy third party games that appeal to me and are good, but I think that like myself, the majority of Wii owners are overall more interested in first party offerings.
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#14 Minishdriveby
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Well really I'm cutting back on buying games, I don't want my wii collection to get as out of control as my DS collection.

But at E3 it's one of those giant events where you want to see the big names. Like Pikmin 3 and Animal Crossing. Sure you like to see the 3rd party but while your building up hype for the event all you think about are the big titles. Another thing is you never know what title a 3rd party developer might announce it could be something you never heard of, with 1st party you know what's gonna come it's tradition and you can relate to it.

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#15 bob_newman
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E3 is Nintendo's big event. Everyone knows it. Whenever they announce a new game for a major franchise (eg. Zelda), it's at E3.

Also, people are getting excited and anxious because right now, Nintendo's 2nd-half of '08 is, for the most part, unknown. We've already heard about a bunch of 3rd-party titles coming up later this year, but we know very little about Nintendo's lineup.

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#16 -Sigil-
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[QUOTE="-Sigil-"]

[QUOTE="wiretoss"][QUOTE="-Sigil-"]Sue the board.wiretoss

It's obviously not just this board. I know other Wii owners that have this same mindset. They bought the Wii just to play Nintendo games.

Well, I see where your aiming at but considering that Nintendo consoles havent had great 3rd party support since the snes, its kind of hard to expect or want anything from them.

Did you live through the gamecube? If you did, you BETTER expect something more.

The Wii still has maybe 5 years to live, its highly probable that it will recieve better 3rd party support than its predescesors in that time, but Im not expecting much...

If I want better 3rd party games, Id might as well turn to the PS3 or 360...

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#17 webbut
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[QUOTE="webbut"]Its cause of the Nintendo new fan boys, Old nintendo fan boys are pretty koul but lots of the new ones can be annoying with that stuff wanting new stuff, Wanting nintendo to make a Zelda game but make it more like Halo2 and other strange requests. but its all good. i just think they should just make a single offical thread instead of making a new one ever 3days. shadimoscouplos

u know the original metroid, right? some dude wanted it to be like halo.... wtf?

im always up for ideas but they have to be NEW. Im fine with the idea of a futuristic Zelda and stuff but i hate when they a person Describes how they want a new game in a seires to be and they end up just describing an already exsistng game in a different seires or they dont even try to describe it they just say it. I want mario but i want him more like God of War.

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#18 stkr
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Well I haven't seen anything eye-catching from 3rd party developers, SEGA has caught my attention because I love Sonic, but nothing else stands out. I'm very particular over the games I play, which may be why, but I own three Wii games and they're all by Nintendo.
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#19 Rocky32189
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While I do agree that we need more third party support and more people should buy third party software, I don't think there's anything wrong with anticipating more great games from Nintendo.
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the thing is we are familiar with nintendo franchises because they are pretty much endless sequels so we can sit here and go "omg I want a new pikmin and then a new zelda and maybe a new star fox"

3rd party devs tend to make all new series so we can't go "what game do you want announced at E3" and say "I hope someone makes a game called Dead Run where zombies come in swarms and you want to escape the city" because its a new idea. We have no idea if something like it is in the works or could potentially be in the works.

Thats why the only thing 3rd party you ever see on the forum is "WII WANT RE5" or "Wouldn't Halo for the wii be so cool"

I'm sick of it too but thats pretty much why.

All I see on the forums are

"What ______ at E3"

"Who's ur favorite brawl character guyz"

"I hate mario kart its too hard"

"Wouldn't a new Kid Icarus game be cool"

"I have a question about..." (these are usually something totally stupid like "my wii won't turn on because my outlet isn't working")

or something totally ignoring a stickied thread like "Ok guys should I get Mario Kart or Metroid"

EDIT: (I forgot a really annoying one) "Guys I'm sick of my wii. I might sell it"

its a bit bland to say the least

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#21 BubbyJello
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I don't give a **** if a game is 1st party, 2nd party, or 3rd party. I just really don't care. But I do know that I really like Zelda games, and I want another.

Is there something wrong with that?

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#22 BuryMe
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I don't care about 3rd party support. I just want new franchises. I don't care if nintendo makes them, or if they come from a 3rd party. They just need to exist
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#23 nakasa5
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[QUOTE="makaveli_89"]

I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

Jaysonguy

No, they're out there, there's a lot of them.

That's your opinion Jayson. Most poeple, including me, would disagree with you. Outside of 1st party titles, there are only a VERY small number of good games. The Wii is way behind PS3 and 360 on 3rd party titles- a trend we also saw last gen. I've seen you list good titles before, and you and I have much different ideas on what a quality game is.

As for the TC, I understand your frustration. I am guilty of what you are talking about. I just wish a 3rd party would give us something to be excited about. Perhaps Conduit...

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#24 WiiDS17
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I totally noticed and i feel the same way! And there is no small good threads anymore is all big huge complains or rants or predictions or boreing stuff that only complainers care about.

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#25 Wild_Card
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[QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="makaveli_89"]

I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

nakasa5

No, they're out there, there's a lot of them.

That's your opinion Jayson. Most poeple, including me, would disagree with you. Outside of 1st party titles, there are only a VERY small number of good games. The Wii is way behind PS3 and 360 on 3rd party titles- a trend we also saw last gen. I've seen you list good titles before, and you and I have much different ideas on what a quality game is.

As for the TC, I understand your frustration. I am guilty of what you are talking about. I just wish a 3rd party would give us something to be excited about. Perhaps Conduit...

agreed. some people just have higher standerds than others. alot of the games i see listed by fan boys as good games are at best rentals to me. most im pissed off that i even spent 5 bucks for a rental lol :p. but yea i think we as Wii owners need to start asking for more GOOD and GREAT 3rd party games that are up to the standerds of say MP3 and SMG. i mean i hate to tell people this but fact is 3rd party devs can and do make games that are as good and some times better than nintys 1st party stuff. RE4,MGS4,GTA4 ect ect. it can be done its just not done much on the Wii. and thats sad. I would love to see a high qulity RE or FF game on the Wii not the REuc and FFcc mediocre stuff. i mean rely would you rather have had a true contenuation of RE4 or the light gun wannabe UC that was even averge for a light gun game 5 years ago.
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#26 thegreatest641
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I'm a wii owner and I love every game on the wii... But I think that doin well on that own games then third party games
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#27 Lyphe2k
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[QUOTE="nakasa5"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="makaveli_89"]

I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

Wild_Card

No, they're out there, there's a lot of them.

That's your opinion Jayson. Most poeple, including me, would disagree with you. Outside of 1st party titles, there are only a VERY small number of good games. The Wii is way behind PS3 and 360 on 3rd party titles- a trend we also saw last gen. I've seen you list good titles before, and you and I have much different ideas on what a quality game is.

As for the TC, I understand your frustration. I am guilty of what you are talking about. I just wish a 3rd party would give us something to be excited about. Perhaps Conduit...

agreed. some people just have higher standerds than others. alot of the games i see listed by fan boys as good games are at best rentals to me. most im pissed off that i even spent 5 bucks for a rental lol :p. but yea i think we as Wii owners need to start asking for more GOOD and GREAT 3rd party games that are up to the standerds of say MP3 and SMG. i mean i hate to tell people this but fact is 3rd party devs can and do make games that are as good and some times better than nintys 1st party stuff. RE4,MGS4,GTA4 ect ect. it can be done its just not done much on the Wii. and thats sad. I would love to see a high qulity RE or FF game on the Wii not the REuc and FFcc mediocre stuff. i mean rely would you rather have had a true contenuation of RE4 or the light gun wannabe UC that was even averge for a light gun game 5 years ago.

Both of you have pretty much summed up how I feel about this issue. I do think that there are fun games out there for the Wii, but they are not what I am looking for.

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#28 Power_Wrist
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I'm a wii owner and I love every game on the wii... But I think that doin well on that own games then third party gamesthegreatest641

You love every game on the Wii?

You can look at me with a straight face and tell me you liked Game Party?

You are either a victim of Fanboyitus Zealetrous, in which case the prognosis is grim, or you are in the clutches of some sort of experimental Nintendo Mind Control probe.

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#29 IvanElk
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Alright some of the best games are 3rd party atm Such as Rock Band and soon to come GH4 and also GH3 and if you really are wanting more we got no more heroes as well. I will disagree with the poster of this topic Nintendo is known for first party games and were always known for really bad 3rd party asking for that is like saying I know this company makes great games so now can you get other people to make stuff on your console that will more then likely fail and be crappy as E.T. for the Snes

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This is not my sig but They should put E.T. Snes on the VC just to laugh at people that will download it.

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#30 goblaa
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[QUOTE="nakasa5"][QUOTE="Jaysonguy"][QUOTE="makaveli_89"]

I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

Wild_Card

No, they're out there, there's a lot of them.

That's your opinion Jayson. Most poeple, including me, would disagree with you. Outside of 1st party titles, there are only a VERY small number of good games. The Wii is way behind PS3 and 360 on 3rd party titles- a trend we also saw last gen. I've seen you list good titles before, and you and I have much different ideas on what a quality game is.

As for the TC, I understand your frustration. I am guilty of what you are talking about. I just wish a 3rd party would give us something to be excited about. Perhaps Conduit...

agreed. some people just have higher standerds than others. alot of the games i see listed by fan boys as good games are at best rentals to me. most im pissed off that i even spent 5 bucks for a rental lol :p. but yea i think we as Wii owners need to start asking for more GOOD and GREAT 3rd party games that are up to the standerds of say MP3 and SMG. i mean i hate to tell people this but fact is 3rd party devs can and do make games that are as good and some times better than nintys 1st party stuff. RE4,MGS4,GTA4 ect ect. it can be done its just not done much on the Wii. and thats sad. I would love to see a high qulity RE or FF game on the Wii not the REuc and FFcc mediocre stuff. i mean rely would you rather have had a true contenuation of RE4 or the light gun wannabe UC that was even averge for a light gun game 5 years ago.

The same can be said about the 360 and PS3. There are some stellar third party games, but only a few...The rest are just average. The amount of amazing first party stuff on the wii is about equal in quantity to the amazing third party stuff on the other consoles. Everything else is just good, not great.

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Alright some of the best games are 3rd party atm Such as Rock Band and soon to come GH4 and also GH3 and if you really are wanting more we got no more heroes as well. I will disagree with the poster of this topic Nintendo is known for first party games and were always known for really bad 3rd party asking for that is like saying I know this company makes great games so now can you get other people to make stuff on your console that will more then likely fail and be crappy as E.T. for the Snes

IvanElk

So Nintendo is known for having bad 3rd-party support? Or is it just because developers can't develop for the Wii?

and use more periods.

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#32 wiifan001
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I'm honestly surprised that hardly anyone knew that we'd get a LOT of lack of 3rd party support. The combined revolutionary technology in the Wii followed up with the lack of graphics the Wii has in comparison to the PS3 and XBOX 360 made it quite certain that wii lack 3rd party suppport. I KNOW I'm the only one on these boards that knew from the beginning as well, but no one personally. :(

You should've all seen it coming I really don't know why you didn't :? Except maybe for those 1st time gamers...

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#33 Darth-Samus
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The thing is, by the very natureof asking "what do you want on the Wii", you're actually asking what people want from Nintendo. Nintendo is of course just as much an in house developer as a hardware manufacturer and as we all know Nintendo makes some of if not the best games on the market. A Wii and Nintendo fan thinks of Nintendo games when asked about games on their Nintendo system. We can't really fault ouselves.

the point i'm tryng to make is that, i personlly believe, that asking a Nintendo fan what they want on the Wii is different than asking someone else what they want on their Xbox or Playstation. And then it's not all that different. Certain systems have certain games related to them. # months ago if you asked someone what they want on the PS3 they'd say Metal Gear or GTA. games associated with that system. For Xbox you'd get Halo or Gears of War. Wii gets Zelda and Metroid and the like. It's all relative and nintendo systems just happen to get Nintendo games. The answers are only natural.

though it should be noted that I do think your enthusiasm for 3rd party games is great. And despite this post I firmly agree with that sentiment. Right now, Tales of Symphonia and Star Wars are my 2 most anticipated games. Oh and the Conduit.

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#34 slimdave21
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I can't stand when people ask "What games are coming at E3?" it really defeats the purpose. The point of the E3 Gaming Conference is to hear about new upcoming games and to show off new games/hardware.

Not to get people talking about sitting around waiting for a conference to announce games, and then these games won't even be released until months/years later.

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#35 Bigboi500
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I agree with the tc, Nintendo fans can be as shallow as Sony fans sometimes, (low blow I know). It's pathetic that most Wii fans here ran out and bought Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, and most have not played Fire Emblem. Shame on you.
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#36 ECG_24
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It's pathetic that most Wii fans here ran out and bought Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, and most have not played Fire Emblem. Shame on you.Bigboi500

I doubt that most Wii fans ran out and bought Mario & Sonic at the Olympics.

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#38 Bigboi500
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[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]It's pathetic that most Wii fans here ran out and bought Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, and most have not played Fire Emblem. Shame on you.ECG_24

I doubt that most Wii fans ran out and bought Mario & Sonic at the Olympics.

Sadly it's true just ask some of them.
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#39 remmbermytitans
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Everything I want to say on the subject will make people feel bad and I'l be suspended probably so I guess I say "There's a lot of good games on the Wii"

Jaysonguy

Don't be afraid to voice your opinions! Anyway, I for one would love to see third-party support. We need more games like No More Heroes, games that are crazy, odd, but still fun. I for one hope that at E3 we see some real third-party support.
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#40 Dymond7
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Nintendo fans are amost crusader-like in their zealotry for nintendo's first party titles. I say bring on more 3rd party titles. We all could use more "No More Heroes" Power_Wrist

Finally, I was going through this, and I saw someone mention "No More Heroes", I am currently playing through it, and I can only say WOW!!, before buying this game I had 4 Nintendo games and a game made by Sega for the Wii, The games made by Nintendo are great but you need to have 3rd party games to, if your only buying first party games, then I feel sorry for you, Games like Brawl, Corruption, Galaxy are great, but you always and will always in own opinion need 3rd party games. next time I go to a Video Game store, I'll pick up Okami, and after that something else. and if you have 3rd party games and don't have any games by Nintendo, then pick Brawl, Corruption, and Galaxy. best Nintendo games on the Wii yet.

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#41 roll450
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Well, same reason here, thats why I dont talk on the wii boards as much only to find those kind of topics to be flooded on the Wii gamespot forum.
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#42 ColonialMustard
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Yeah I agree, we need to hype more 3rd party games. Mad World looks awesome... And apparently Capcom has another exclusive for the wii, besides Spyborgs... it's supposed to be an interesting take on a favorite next gen franchise, so who knows, it may be good. Oh, and what the hell happened to FF: Crystal Chronicles the Crystal Bearers??? That game was looking sooo rad.... Anyways, as soon as more wii third parties start picking up the pace and give us some AAA quality content, then we can all rant and rave about them in these forums. But for now there's very little to talk about.
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#43 Erebyssial
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There's heaps of these threads because E3 is only a few weeks away, and Nintendo is being very secretive of what they're going to announce. They're hyping E3 making statements like "we have several hardcore titles to announce", so I don't blame anyone for being excited for what's in store for us next, as we really have no idea besides Animal Crossing.

However, the same threads being made all the time is annoying and the search function should be used more.

Remember, people buy Nintendo systems mainly for Nintendo games, so their hype will always take priority over third parties unless it involves a big name franchise like Resident Evil.

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#44 makaveli_89
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[QUOTE="makaveli_89"]

I want more good 3rd party title games to come out. But there havent been many.

Jaysonguy

No, they're out there, there's a lot of them.

No, they arent. They really aren't what im looking for, or up to my standards.

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#45 X-Remnant
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People want what people want. If anything it's because that's all a lot of wii users have come to expect. Personally, I would love more 3rd party support on the wii.
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#47 lancea34
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The only Nintendo tittle that interests me are Mario and Pikmin. I don't like Zelda and I never played Starfox. I'm more interested in 3rd party tittles like SimCity Creator, The force Unleashed etc.
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Maybe because we don't know what to expect from third party, and we have an idea of what nintendo will release.
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#49 OG_GhostKilla
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Right now the only games I`m waiting for are 3rd party. I really want The Conduit to turn out good and Deadly Creatures looks cool. MOH H2 and Godfather are great 3rd party games on the wii right now. I don`t care who makes a game as long as it`s good.
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#50 XDXDXDXDXDXDXD
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Its annoying how people are hoping for a new Zelda game or something to fall out of the sky but its not gonna happen this E3. In E3.net it shows the games that are gonna be there and I only saw Animal Crossing and Kid Icarus Wii. No Star Fox, No Kirby, No DK. It's a bitdisappointingbut at least knowing that gives less a reason to wonder in the forums what games will come out in E3.