Metroid Prime Trilogy is real.

[QUOTE="SER69"][QUOTE="DS_Lightning21"]

How can they cram all 3 games on 1 disc? I thought Metroid Prime 3 was built from the ground up for the Wii (and obviously has better graphics than the GC games). Hopefully this cramming doesn't further hurt the "open-the-door level loading" problem in all the MP games.

jjr10

I'm surprised that Jasonguy is not here to expose his frustration.

i don't really like fps so i'm not gonna buy it

How can they cram all 3 games on 1 disc? I thought Metroid Prime 3 was built from the ground up for the Wii (and obviously has better graphics than the GC games). Hopefully this cramming doesn't further hurt the "open-the-door level loading" problem in all the MP games.

DS_Lightning21

The only people that have the right to complain are the ones that only want to play ONE game like those who finished Prime 2 and 3 but never played 1.

Kenny789

What if I think the Wii versions will be inferior?Do I have the right to complain?

[QUOTE="DS_Lightning21"]

How can they cram all 3 games on 1 disc? I thought Metroid Prime 3 was built from the ground up for the Wii (and obviously has better graphics than the GC games). Hopefully this cramming doesn't further hurt the "open-the-door level loading" problem in all the MP games.

Rocky32189

Dual-Layer disc huh? That's pretty cool. Are there any other Wii games that use a dual-layer disc? I think Brawl might have used one? Maybe developers should use that more often to include more content in their games. My first reaction to Metroid Prime Trilogy was "um, is that possible?".

I'm definitely looking forward to MP Trilogy since I never played MP2 and I haven't played MP1 in a very long time, and now we get the Wii FPS controls which was my favorite feature of MP3. 2009 is looking very good for Nintendo Wii, and I enjoy little surprises like this.

Maybe if we get Pikmin 3, we should get a Pikmin trilogy. Oh, but that would make people mad who bought the NPC games huh? Nevermind then...I just think trilogy packages like these are much more appealing and presentable than the NPC games.

i don't really like fps so i'm not gonna buy it

riou7

Good for you, since those games are Action Adventures.

[QUOTE="jjr10"][QUOTE="SER69"] Actually, early impression indicate that loading times are faster.SER69

How do you know this?

Do you have a link?

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]So they're simultaneously screwing over the people who already played 1 and 2, AND the people who already bought Corruption? Nintendo: constantly raising the bar in cash-cow milking.FFCYAN

[is told by SER69 that the box art is fan-made, not official.] I guess Nintendo lost a sale then. I already have every Prime game.

Lol, so you roll your eyes at me... and then say Nintendo lost your sale, since you "already played 1 and 2" and "already bought Corruption"? I hope you're rolling your eyes at yourself as well then :P

I do get where you are coming from. But MP3 was probably thrown there to add more value to the bundle and to get more people to play it, without necessarily rising significantly the price of it. I honestly think that this bundle is a good middle point for all the possible outcomes.SER69

You really think that MP3 is the one being thrown in to add value? No, I don't think it works like that. Which was the most recent game? MP3. Which one took the most money to make? MP3. Which are the quick ports? MP1 and MP2. So which were the ones thrown in to add value? MP1 and MP2. They're exclusive bonus past games that you get when you buy the more recent game.

A similar model was used with Contra 4 (allowing you to play the past Contra games on DS along with the new game) and Orange Box (allowing you to play the past HL games along with the new episode and TF2.) The difference is that the past games were included right from the beginning with Contra 4 and with the HL episodes in the Orange Box. No-one had bought Contra 4 and HL Ep2 & TF2 BEFORE they came with other stuff.

Nintendo has instead chosen a sneaky and unfair method by including the past games a good two years after the new game was released. I say this is sneaky, because while they can advertise this as a great deal - $50 for all three games! - the fact that they, unlike Konami and Valve, only bundled them after two years means that their target audience will actually be paying $100 (which will prolly be $124 in canada) for all three games. It's a clever marketing trick to fool people into thinking they're getting a great deal while making them pay way more than the games are actually worth.

You really think that MP3 is the one being thrown in to add value? No, I don't think it works like that. Which was the most recent game? MP3. Which one took the most money to make? MP3. Which are the quick ports? MP1 and MP2. So which were the ones thrown in to add value? MP1 and MP2. They're exclusive bonus past games that you get when you buy the more recent game.

A similar model was used with Contra 4 (allowing you to play the past Contra games on DS along with the new game) and Orange Box (allowing you to play the past HL games along with the new episode and TF2.) The difference is that the past games were included right from the beginning with Contra 4 and with the HL episodes in the Orange Box. No-one had bought Contra 4 and HL Ep2 & TF2 BEFORE they came with other stuff.

Nintendo has instead chosen a sneaky and unfair method by including the past games a good two years after the new game was released. I say this is sneaky, because while they can advertise this as a great deal - $50 for all three games! - the fact that they, unlike Konami and Valve, only bundled them after two years means that their target audience will actually be paying $100 (which will prolly be $124 in canada) for all three games. It's a clever marketing trick to fool people into thinking they're getting a great deal while making them pay way more than the games are actually worth.

clicketyclick

I'm confused. How are people 'actually' paying $100 for the trilogy? :?

And whatever, you go ahead and say how Nintendo is sneaky and evil :P .. whereever samus is, Haziq is there :)

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Whatever.:roll:

[is told by SER69 that the box art is fan-made, not official.] I guess Nintendo lost a sale then. I already have every Prime game.clicketyclick

Lol, so you roll your eyes at me... and then say Nintendo lost your sale, since you "already played 1 and 2" and "already bought Corruption"? I hope you're rolling your eyes at yourself as well then :P

I do get where you are coming from. But MP3 was probably thrown there to add more value to the bundle and to get more people to play it, without necessarily rising significantly the price of it. I honestly think that this bundle is a good middle point for all the possible outcomes.SER69

Nintendo has instead chosen a sneaky and unfair method by including the past games a good two years after the new game was released. I say this is sneaky, because while they can advertise this as a great deal - $50 for all three games! - the fact that they, unlike Konami and Valve, only bundled them after two years means that their target audience will actually be paying $100 (which will prolly be $124 in canada) for all three games. It's a clever marketing trick to fool people into thinking they're getting a great deal while making them pay way more than the games are actually worth.

Metroid Prime:brand new from Amazon $49.98

Metroid Prime 2: brand new from Amazon, $56.98

Metroid Prime 3: brand new from Amazon, $32.00

Looks like $50 for all three is a good deal huh?

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]It's like if Nintendo had only offered the Wii with a bundle. The Wii ($250 value!) comes with Ninjabread Man ($30 value!) and Petz ($30 value!) for only $290! That's savings of $20! What a deal!staindcoldlp

You're still saving money though. $20 is $20 plain and simple. When you save any amount of money no matter how large or small you're still saving money.

Lol, you missed the point... and in doing so, you illustrated my point.

You are technically saving $20 by having the Wii and Ninjabread Man and Petz bundled together (just as Ninty can technically advertise this bundle as a money-saving deal.)

But in actuality, you did not want to buy Ninjabread Man and Petz - you just wanted the Wii!But you couldn't get the Wii on its own - you could only get it as part of the bundle (similarly many people don't want to buy MP3 again - they just wanted MP1 and/or MP2! But they couldn't get MP1/MP2 on their own - they could only get it as part of the bundle.)

So, since you didn't want Ninjabread Man and Petz, you're actually OVERPAYING by $40, even though you're technically saving $20.

That's the point I wanted to illustrate - that even though you may technically be saving money on a deal, you could actually still be overpaying. It's a common marketing ploy to get people to pay more than they intended. It works because people only see the savings and don't see how they are overpaying, which is a fact you illustrated perfectly.

[QUOTE="staindcoldlp"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"][It's like if Nintendo had only offered the Wii with a bundle. The Wii ($250 value!) comes with Ninjabread Man ($30 value!) and Petz ($30 value!) for only $290! That's savings of $20! What a deal!clicketyclick

You're still saving money though. $20 is $20 plain and simple. When you save any amount of money no matter how large or small you're still saving money.

Then don't buy the bundle!!!

You make it seem like people don't have a choice in the matter when they do have a choice! They can choose to buy it, or choose to not buy it!

Then don't buy the bundle!!!

You make it seem like people don't have a choice in the matter when they do have a choice! They can choose to buy it, or choose to not buy it!

staindcoldlp

Whether I buy it or not buy it has no bearing on whether or not it's a ripoff. It would only affect whether or not I personally got ripped off. I'm trying to illustrate WHY it's a ripoff for many people, and to do so, I have to talk about what would happen if the interested consumer actually DID buy it.

Just as the Wii in my example was "only offered" with a bundle, just the same, MP1 and MP2 are only offered in a bundle. The person who wants the Wii (and similarly, MP1/MP2) can only get them as a bundle. Thus, the consumer who intends to buy the Wii (or MP1/MP2) is forced to get them as part of a bundle. The interested consumer has no choice but to get the bundle.

Do you see what I mean? I can't buy MP1/MP2 separately. If I want to get them, I'm obliged to pay $124. Now, as you pointed out, MP3 is currently selling for about $30. $124 minus the selling price of MP3 is $94. That means I'm paying $94 for MP1 and MP2. That means I'm paying NEARLY $50 for EACH port. Even if I were paying $30, I would still be overpaying, but I'm paying full price for a port! (It's even worse for people who are only interested in one of the ports. They're paying $94 for one port.)

See the problem here? As I said, "even though you may technically be saving money on a deal, you could actually still be overpaying." And sadly, I'm the target audience of this deal, so many people will be in my position, whether they can see it or not. ;)

[QUOTE="SER69"][QUOTE="jjr10"] Due to a dual-layer disc i'm guessing. Anyway, i'll be sure to pick this up. It shouldn't be more than regular in Australia due to the price in the US, so i'm happy. Even if it was, it's fine cause Metroid Prime 3 is still sold for $100 here. Happy!steizgr8

How do you know this?

Do you have a link?

I can't buy MP1/MP2 separately. If I want to get them, I'm obliged to pay $124. Now, as you pointed out, MP3 is currently selling for about $30. $124 minus the selling price of MP3 is $94. That means I'm paying $94 for MP1 and MP2. That means I'm paying NEARLY $50 for EACH port. clicketyclick

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]I can't buy MP1/MP2 separately. If I want to get them, I'm obliged to pay $124. Now, as you pointed out, MP3 is currently selling for about $30. $124 minus the selling price of MP3 is $94. That means I'm paying $94 for MP1 and MP2. That means I'm paying NEARLY $50 for EACH port. Mike1978Smith

[QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"]I can't buy MP1/MP2 separately. If I want to get them, I'm obliged to pay $124. Now, as you pointed out, MP3 is currently selling for about $30. $124 minus the selling price of MP3 is $94. That means I'm paying $94 for MP1 and MP2. That means I'm paying NEARLY $50 for EACH port. clicketyclick

[QUOTE="Mike1978Smith"] Whether you purchased MP3 already or not has no bearing on the price of the new package. clicketyclick

Here's the skinny. Nintendo has been releasing NPC games individually for $30 a pop. Nintendo made NPC versions of MP1 and MP2. Instead of selling them individually for $30 each, they bundled them together for $50. That's a $10 discount for those who planned on purchasing both titles. But wait! *attempts a Billy Mayes voice* There's more! we'll throw in MP3, a $49.99 value, absolutely free!

Sure, for those who only wanted to buy one or the other, you're paying $20 more than you had originally planned. If that's your case, then I can understand your gripe, but honestly.... you're arguing the case in a completely ridiculous manner. Besides, you can always just wait the price out or buy it used.

Edit: sheesh, I hate this text editor some times...

clicketyclick, i assume you bought MP3 as a standalone title by the time of its release, right? and you played it, and enjoyed it, as well, right? now there's a bundle coming with MP, MP2 and MP3 included, but you're upset because you already have MP3. do you think you wasted money on MP3? 'cuz if you don't, i think your point is only valid if you have an untouched copy of MP3 on your collection.

So, clicketyclick, what if they instead of the trilogy, announced a Bilogy with the upgraded versions of MP1 and 2 for $50. Would you still call it a rip-off?SER69

There's more! we'll throw in MP3, a $49.99 value, absolutely free!Mike1978Smith

I am still not seeing your logic, Clickety.SiK99

MP3: $50 (well actually $56.50 CDN) MP3 + MP1 + MP2: $50 Total paid to get every member of the trilogy: $124.30 Selling price of MP3 currently: ~$30 Total paid to get MP1 + MP2: $94.30 Price paid per NPC game: $47.15 Do you see how clever Nintendo's move is? While it appears as though you are saving money, when you actually look at things critically and mathematically, it turns out that Nintendo is getting more money per game than they are worth, at least from the target audience, including yours truly.clicketyclick

MP1 + MP2 + MP3: $50

Total Paid for MP1 and MP2: $50

Price paid per NPC game: $25

Do you see how you adding in your previous purchase of MP3 has nothing to do with your future purchase of the NPC games?

There's more! we'll throw in MP3, a $49.99 value, absolutely free!Mike1978Smith

so MP1 npc would be $30

MP2 npc would also be $30

30 + 30 = 60, if I haven't completely forgotten simple math.

Sooo.... MP1, MP2, + MP3 in one package for $49.99 ........ It seems like a deal to me!

The only way I can see clickety's point is if clickety only wanted to buy one of the Metroid Prime npc's instead of both... is that the case?

Symantecs. I see MP3 as a free bonus to purchasing the NPC games. You can say "That's not how it works" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that the only reason we're seeing this bundle is because of the NPC games, not MP3.Mike1978Smith

It's not semantics. As I said previously, MP3 is the newest game and cost the most to make. New Play Control games cost very little to port. That's why RE4 NPC sells for $19.99, and they even have a nice margin of profit at that price-point!

MP3 is the newest game and cost the most to produce, therefore, the bulk of the price of the trilogy is due to MP3, not the other way around. Ninty wants you to see it the other way around so you think you're getting a deal, meanwhile, for people who've bought MP3 already, they're getting more money for the NPC games than they are worth.

It's more like:

MP1 + MP2 + MP3: $50

Total Paid for MP1 and MP2: $50

Price paid per NPC game: $25

Do you see how you adding in your previous purchase of MP3 has nothing to do with your future purchase of the NPC games?

Mike1978Smith

Of course it doesn't, but it affects the total price paid. I'm not sure how to make it any more clear. Your math is what it APPEARS to be: a deal. It appears a though you're saving $10. But if you do the full math, shown in my previous post above, that is not actually the case. I can only refer you to my previous example to help you understand the point I'm trying to make:

It's like if Nintendo had only offered the Wii with a bundle. The Wii ($250 value!) comes with Ninjabread Man ($30 value!) and Petz ($30 value!) for only $290! That's savings of $20! What a deal!

You are technically saving $20 by having the Wii and Ninjabread Man and Petz bundled together (just as Ninty can technically advertise this trilogy bundle as a money-saving deal.)

But in actuality, you did not want to buy Ninjabread Man and Petz - you just wanted the Wii! But you couldn't get the Wii on its own - you could only get it as part of the bundle (similarly many people don't want to buy MP3 again - they just wanted MP1 and/or MP2! But they couldn't get MP1/MP2 on their own - they could only get it as part of the bundle.)

So, since you didn't want Ninjabread Man and Petz, you're actually OVERPAYING by $40, even though you're technically saving $20.

That's the point I wanted to illustrate - that even though you may technically be saving money on a deal, you could actually still be overpaying. It's a common marketing ploy to get people to pay more than they intended. It works because people only see the savings and don't see how they are overpaying, which is a fact you illustrate perfectly.

So, clicketyclick, what if they instead of the trilogy, announced a Bilogy with the upgraded versions of MP1 and 2 for $50. Would you still call it a rip-off?SER69

Here's another way of demonstrating to you that this is no deal at all.

Buying the trilogy to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

Trilogy: $50 ($67.80 CDN)

Total: $124.30

Buying the "bilogy" to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

Bilogy: $50 ($67.80 CDN)

Total: $124.30

Buying the games separately to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

MP1: $30 ($33.90)

MP2: $30 ($33.90)

Total: $124.30

Intuitively, it seems as though getting MP1 and MP2 in the trilogy is a money-saving deal, even if you've already bought MP3, as you and many others have said. What this shows is that your intuitions are wrong; it saves no money at all.

What the point? You can't trust your intuitions about what FEELS like a deal. You have to look at things mathematically to SEE whether they're actually a good deal or a ripoff.

This post demonstrates that it is NOT a deal for people who already bought MP3. My other post demonstrates that it's actually a ripoff for them.

This is a great deal for people who haven't bought any of the games. For people who bought MP3 already though, or who only want one of the NPC games... it's a ripoff. The problem is that I'll wager there are more of the latter than the former who are actually interested in getting the NPC games. That's why I said the latter is the target audience, and why I said the target audience is getting ripped off.

I am incapable of making my point any clearer to people who still don't follow, unfortunately. All I can say is that you're trying to view it intuitively, which often blinds you to reality, and that's what big companies count on when they offer "money-saving bundles".

isnt the factor of trading a game you already own accounted into?most corruption owners plan to turn their prime copy in to avoid a repeated copy(like the previous post).intro94

That shouldn't be taken into account in the raw total cost, because it's an assumption of further action by the consumer. That assumption can't be made because not all consumers will go on to do that! Some may just not know how, some may not have the time to bother, and some, like me, may be morally opposed to the trading industry.

You can lessen the impact by trading it in, but not make the whole thing a deal.

MP3: $50 (well actually $56.50 CDN)

MP3 + MP1 + MP2: $50 (well actually $67.80 CDN)

Total paid to get every member of the trilogy: $124.30

Selling price of MP3 currently: ~$30

Total paid to get MP1 + MP2: $94.30

**Trade-in value of MP3 currently: ~$12

Price paid per NPC game: $41.15

Still a rip-off.

sweet i was going 2 buy the third game 2 see if they r any gud but now i might aswell buy all three.

That's a great deal for people who want it, but to be honest the only reason I'd consider buying it is if sequence breaking is still in Prime 1.

I'm probably the only one, but I actually like the GC controls better than the Wii controls... :?

It's not semantics. As I said previously, MP3 is the newest game and cost the most to make. New Play Control games cost very little to port. That's why RE4 NPC sells for $19.99, and they even have a nice margin of profit at that price-point!

MP3 is the newest game and cost the most to produce, therefore, the bulk of the price of the trilogy is due to MP3, not the other way around. Ninty wants you to see it the other way around so you think you're getting a deal, meanwhile, for people who've bought MP3 already, they're getting more money for the NPC games than they are worth.clicketyclick

Still semantics. You see MP3 being the source of production cost on this, while in all actuality they aren't doing any work on MP3 for this at all. MP3 has already paid for itself. Now Ninty is going for profits on revamping MP1 and MP2. Despite what you say, this compilation is all about the NPC Metroids, not MP3. They simply added in MP3 to be added bonus to the collection.

Remember, they could have simply given us MP1 and MP2 for the same price (or even more, ifthey released them indivisually).

Of course it doesn't, but it affects the total price paid. I'm not sure how to make it any more clear. Your math is what it APPEARS to be: a deal. It appears a though you're saving $10. But if you do the full math, shown in my previous post above, that is not actually the case. I can only refer you to my previous example to help you understand the point I'm trying to make:

It's like if Nintendo had only offered the Wii with a bundle. The Wii ($250 value!) comes with Ninjabread Man ($30 value!) and Petz ($30 value!) for only $290! That's savings of $20! What a deal!

You are technically saving $20 by having the Wii and Ninjabread Man and Petz bundled together (just as Ninty can technically advertise this trilogy bundle as a money-saving deal.)

But in actuality, you did not want to buy Ninjabread Man and Petz - you just wanted the Wii! But you couldn't get the Wii on its own - you could only get it as part of the bundle (similarly many people don't want to buy MP3 again - they just wanted MP1 and/or MP2! But they couldn't get MP1/MP2 on their own - they could only get it as part of the bundle.)

So, since you didn't want Ninjabread Man and Petz, you're actually OVERPAYING by $40, even though you're technically saving $20.

That's the point I wanted to illustrate - that even though you may technically be saving money on a deal, you could actually still be overpaying. It's a common marketing ploy to get people to pay more than they intended. It works because people only see the savings and don't see how they are overpaying, which is a fact you illustrate perfectly.

clicketyclick

Your comparison is silly, at best.

Regardless if MP3 was part of this compilation or not, we would still be paying $50-$60 for MP1 + MP2. If anything, it gives curent MP3 owners a discount, as they can trade in MP3 towards the cost of the trilogy.

It's not rocket science, no matter how complicated you try to make it.

[QUOTE="SER69"]So, clicketyclick, what if they instead of the trilogy, announced a Bilogy with the upgraded versions of MP1 and 2 for $50. Would you still call it a rip-off?clicketyclick

Here's another way of demonstrating to you that this is no deal at all.

Buying the trilogy to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

Trilogy: $50 ($67.80 CDN)

Total: $124.30

Buying the "bilogy" to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

Bilogy: $50 ($67.80 CDN)

Total: $124.30

Buying the games separately to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

MP1: $30 ($33.90)

MP2: $30 ($33.90)

Total: $124.30

Intuitively, it seems as though getting MP1 and MP2 in the trilogy is a money-saving deal, even if you've already bought MP3, as you and many others have said. What this shows is that your intuitions are wrong; it saves no money at all.

What the point? You can't trust your intuitions about what FEELS like a deal. You have to look at things mathematically to SEE whether they're actually a good deal or a ripoff.

This post demonstrates that it is NOT a deal for people who already bought MP3. My other post demonstrates that it's actually a ripoff for them.

This is a great deal for people who haven't bought any of the games. For people who bought MP3 already though, or who only want one of the NPC games... it's a ripoff. The problem is that I'll wager there are more of the latter than the former who are actually interested in getting the NPC games. That's why I said the latter is the target audience, and why I said the target audience is getting ripped off.

I am incapable of making my point any clearer to people who still don't follow, unfortunately. All I can say is that you're trying to view it intuitively, which often blinds you to reality, and that's what big companies count on when they offer "money-saving bundles".

this is ridiculous. you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. all of your arguments tend to go past games, into these sticky, ethical and philosophical depths. what do you do with your time? you're arguing a moral point more than anything.

people like metroid prime, they play MP3 and want to go back to the original. they notice the orignal is dated in its controls, so they're willing to pay for those experiences again, albeit with a much improved interface. end of argument.

we're all buying the same stuff over and over again anyway. every metroid, every zelda, every similar action game. it doesn't matter. if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it. you're the gaming equivalent of radical christian groups that try to push their religion on other people.

Clickety, i understand what you are saying, but think about it like this.

Nintendo COULD HAVE charged 29.99 each for both MP1 and MP2.

Then you would be paying $60.

Instead they are selling them both for only $50.

which way would you rather of had?

That's a better deal than paying $30 each for New Play Control MP1 and 2.

@Alexh: thank you for your civil post! I appreciate that you're trying to make me feel better. The problem is, even if they sold MP1 and MP2 separately at $30, I'd still be paying the same amount total. $56.50 + $67.80 is identical to $56.50 + $33.90 + $33.90. Still $124.30. Asking which I'd rather have is like asking if I'd rather have half-a-dozen potatoes or 6 potatoes. Here's another way of looking at it:

For the person who hasn't purchased any games, it's a good deal. CDN$67.80 for the trilogy (or US$50), minus the current price of MP3 ($30) is $37.80. That means that this person is paying only $37.80 for BOTH MP1 and MP2! Aka. they are essentially paying $18.90 for each game. That's very nice. This person expended a really low amount to get all three games.

For the person who has purchased MP3, it's not a good deal. CDN$56.50 for MP3 plus CDN$67.80 for the trilogy, minus the current price of MP3 ($30) is $94.30. That means that this person is paying $94.30 for both MP1 and MP2! Aka. they are essentially paying $47.15 for each game. Not very nice. This person has expended way more to get all three games.

I'm sorry but why is that MP3 $49.99 is (%56.60 CDN). But Trilogy and Bilogy that are also $49.99 are ($67.80 CDN) ?SER69

Have you noticed how, recently, full-price games are $10 more (sometimes $20) in Canada compared to the US? It's a recent trend, I think due to the market problems. It's a funny one though, because the loonie is strengthening against the falling dollar, and yet games are becoming more expensive in canada. We used to pay the American price but in canadian dollars (US$50, CDN$50). Now we play slightly higher than the conversion rate (US$50 = CDN$56, but we pay CDN$60-70.) :(

what do you do with your time? ... if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it. you're the gaming equivalent of radical christian groups that try to push their religion on other people.just_nonplussed

Well goodness now, don't hold your feelings in.

Sorry, but if you have the right to post about how great a deal it is for you, then I have the right to post about how much of a ripoff it is for me. Tell me, what would be the equivalent of someone who tries to silence the people who don't share their opinions?

are you going to buy the metroid prime trilogy, clickety?

are you going to buy the metroid prime trilogy, clickety?

dan_the_menace

The Trilogy is $50, right? You should not be complaining at all just off the basis that you are getting three highly ambitious pieces of software all for the compilation price of $50. The Trilogy compilation also adds new parts.

Your trying to split hairs by bringing in trade in value of MP3 and the GC games. If you already have all the Metroid Prime games this is NOT for you. If you still want to buy the trilogy regardless of having bought and beaten these games then you are probably getting it for collection purposes. It cannot be a "rip off" if you do not buy it.

If you have a problem with this compilation then buy the old games used. If you want to play the separate NPC then import them. You act as if there are no options but there are. I do not know why you would be so concerned about games you have already played. The very first thing is its lame Nintendo keeps repackaging their old games. NPC is the worst example of this. This compilation is a step up and and an absolute steal for those who have not played at least 2 od these games.

Alrighty then... First time posting on the main boards in a long while, but I'm somewhat sick and tired of the same illogical argument you continue to make ClicketyClick. I'd like to point out three flaws I've currently read in your arguments.

1. You claim you'll end up paying $124.30 after everything, with Metroid Prime 3's current selling value to have $30 deducted from the overall price. The fact stands that with the bundle, Metroid Prime 3 Corruption still has value since you still own the title regardless that you now have Two copies of the game. To completely factor the title out is like leaving the Wii out of the Wii bundle deal you initially stated(which I will get to). In actuality, regardless of the value of Metroid Prime 3 that it sells for online, you have to factor the value of two of those titles since you are not being deprived of what you have purchased. So the new total to get both NPC Metroid 1 & 2 would have to be $64.30, factoring out for each title to be $32.15, cheaper than the previously stated. Certainly the second copy of Metroid Prime 3 you will have will be utterly useless, but that does not mean it doesn't exist when you buy the trilogy package.

2. Your Wii bundle conparison is very flawed. The Wii itself is sold at $249.99 retail price while Metroid Prime 3 Corruption is sold at $56.50. The said Wii bundle is factoring in both titles mentioned at an extra $40, deducting 33% from the total cost of the games alone. Metroid Prime Trilogy is to be sold $67.80 compared to the initially stated, an $11.30 difference between the original title and the trilogy. Factoring in the original stated values for the two NPC Metroid titles to be sold seperated, $33.90 each, we can conclude that the value to own both title in this trilogy package comes up to saving one an estimate of 83% of the original value it would have cost you to get both Prime titles seperately. The logic of comparing the two also seems heavily unmatched, seeing how you claim we are pay for Metroid Prime 3 with now added features while you're talking about purchasing a Wii with added products. The fact you want the Wii alone without the games creates a very unbalanced situation comparing it to the Prime Trilogy. You do not want Metroid Prime 3, though the two titles you are getting at their discounted price in the Trilogy Bundle? Pretty much that's comparing polar opposites right there, especially if you claim that we are just paying for the price of Metroid Prime 3. I can understand your point, trying to say that you don't want to pay extra money for games you do not want. Though this logic is absolutely moot point and illogical when factoring the U.S. prices, since you would be paying $249.99 for both the Wii and both titles since there is no price difference at all in the retail price of Metroid Prime 3 Corruption and the Metroid Trilogy pack.(You can blame the government for the price difference of the games over there)

3. I can use your previously stated knowledge with any other bundle in existence that I have, or my brother has purchased in the past. I'll take the Orange Box for example. My brother is a big Valve fanatic. He bought Half-Life 2 when it was originally released at full retail price, at $49.99 USD. Then he went further to purchasing Episode 1 for I believe $20 USD when it originally released. Though they released the Orange Box for $49.99 USD, giving him three new games and two titles he's already purchased. Now for the math:

$49.99 + $20 + $49.99 = $119.98

So he simply bought those two games in the past, to later be forced to buy two games he already owns just to get three titles he hasn't played yet. Regardless, we'll do the math to factor how much it cost him to get those three games.

$119.98 / 3 = $39.99 each (rounded off)

So he's forced to pay $39.99 for each game he does not have for what seems to be a seamingly excellent deal, which in the end scammed him out.

For the same answer, see #1. He still owns the second copy of Half-Life 2, as well as Episode 1, free to do what he wishes with it whether he wishes to gift it to someone else or leave it to collect dust. Just because you own something already and get a second copy does not mean it's non-existant. That second copy still has value.

First time ever having the heart to finally rant, but this is my stand on your logic that you've continued to spout as 'truth.' This is the logic I've grown to understand, seeing how everything you purchase has value to it.

Anyways, this is a deal for me. I guess I'm glad I only rented MP3 with a free rental coupon last year. Wouldn't mind picking this up since I've yet to complete Echoes.