Metroid Prime Trilogy is real.

All good points but you both forget that this isn't really for those who already own the game. Every single game in the compilation was previously released. You are not forced to buy those older games in order to get new software. The world does not revolve around one consumer so complaining about wanting to play two previously released games but mad that you have to buy the other previously released game is asking too much and really petty.

@Alexh: thank you for your civil post! I appreciate that you're trying to make me feel better. The problem is, even if they sold MP1 and MP2 separately at $30, I'd still be paying the same amount total. $56.50 + $67.80 is identical to $56.50 + $33.90 + $33.90. Still $124.30. Asking which I'd rather have is like asking if I'd rather have half-a-dozen potatoes or 6 potatoes. Here's another way of looking at it:

For the person who hasn't purchased any games, it's a good deal. CDN$67.80 for the trilogy (or US$50), minus the current price of MP3 ($30) is $37.80. That means that this person is paying only $37.80 for BOTH MP1 and MP2! Aka. they are essentially paying $18.90 for each game. That's very nice. This person expended a really low amount to get all three games.

For the person who has purchased MP3, it's not a good deal. CDN$56.50 for MP3 plus CDN$67.80 for the trilogy, minus the current price of MP3 ($30) is $94.30. That means that this person is paying $94.30 for both MP1 and MP2! Aka. they are essentially paying $47.15 for each game. Not very nice. This person has expended way more to get all three games.

[QUOTE="SER69"]I'm sorry but why is that MP3 $49.99 is (%56.60 CDN). But Trilogy and Bilogy that are also $49.99 are ($67.80 CDN) ?clicketyclick

Have you noticed how, recently, full-price games are $10 more (sometimes $20) in Canada compared to the US? It's a recent trend, I think due to the market problems. It's a funny one though, because the loonie is strengthening against the falling dollar, and yet games are becoming more expensive in canada. We used to pay the American price but in canadian dollars (US$50, CDN$50). Now we play slightly higher than the conversion rate (US$50 = CDN$56, but we pay CDN$60-70.) :(

what do you do with your time? ... if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it. you're the gaming equivalent of radical christian groups that try to push their religion on other people.just_nonplussed

Well goodness now, don't hold your feelings in.

Sorry, but if you have the right to post about how great a deal it is for you, then I have the right to post about how much of a ripoff it is for me. Tell me, what would be the equivalent of someone who tries to silence the people who don't share their opinions?

i don't mind you voicing your opinion....but it's got to the point where you're practically trolling. the only difference is that you're clearly not unintelligent or flaming abuse.

maybe you should put all that energy into writing... a blog perhaps? :P

For the person who has purchased MP3, it's not a good deal. CDN$56.50 for MP3 plus CDN$67.80 for the trilogy, minus the current price of MP3 ($30) is $94.30. That means that this person is paying $94.30 for both MP1 and MP2! Aka. they are essentially paying $47.15 for each game. Not very nice. This person has expended way more to get all three games.

clicketyclick

The part i bolded is where you are wrong.

i'll take what you as a perfect example "is like asking if I'd rather have half-a-dozen potatoes or 6 potatoes."

Just for a minute pretend like MP3 does not exist. To buy the NPC prime titles you would have to put down $30 each ($60 total). Now to buy both these games together (MP3 still does not exist). you are going to have to pay $50. (im not converting to canadian, because i havn't seen many games that are not 49.99. only 2 that come to my mind are madworld and CoD WaW.)

So what im getting at, is if you take MP3 out of the equation and just look at MP1, and MP2 you are basically paying the same price as you would have if nintendo sold them seperatly.

Now add in a free version of MP3 and it is an even more awesome deal.

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and one last thing. When you add up all the games together and get $124, thats all good. But only subtracting $30 for MP3 doesnt make sense. I Know it is the value of it right now, but that is just like me saying......

Back in 2001 i bought Pikmin 1 for the Gamecube. Amazing title, i loved it and i spent $67.80 on it.

Now nintendo brought out the NPC pikmin for the wii. I want the game so i purchased it for $30.

This is how Nintendo tricked me. i had to pay $101.70 to play pikmin. Now subtract the current price for pikmin 1 ($10) and i am essentially paying $91.70 for 1 game!

Nintendo=ripoff.

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see how that logic does not really work?

you paid for MP3 two years ago, you paid $50 for. You enjoyed it. It was worth your money.

For the trilogy, forget about two years ago, that was $50 well spent. Just look at the deal like $49.99 for both MP1, and MP2. AMAZING!

For the person who hasn't purchased any games, it's a good deal. clicketyclick

you paid for MP3 two years ago, you paid $50 for. You enjoyed it. It was worth your money.

For the trilogy, forget about two years ago, that was $50 well spent. Just look at the deal like $49.99 for both MP1, and MP2. AMAZING!

alexh_99

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]For the person who hasn't purchased any games, it's a good deal. Mike1978Smith

[QUOTE="FFCYAN"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"] Whatever.:roll:

[is told by SER69 that the box art is fan-made, not official.] I guess Nintendo lost a sale then. I already have every Prime game.clicketyclick

Lol, so you roll your eyes at me... and then say Nintendo lost your sale, since you "already played 1 and 2" and "already bought Corruption"? I hope you're rolling your eyes at yourself as well then :P

I do get where you are coming from. But MP3 was probably thrown there to add more value to the bundle and to get more people to play it, without necessarily rising significantly the price of it. I honestly think that this bundle is a good middle point for all the possible outcomes.SER69

You really think that MP3 is the one being thrown in to add value? No, I don't think it works like that. Which was the most recent game? MP3. Which one took the most money to make? MP3. Which are the quick ports? MP1 and MP2. So which were the ones thrown in to add value? MP1 and MP2. They're exclusive bonus past games that you get when you buy the more recent game.

A similar model was used with Contra 4 (allowing you to play the past Contra games on DS along with the new game) and Orange Box (allowing you to play the past HL games along with the new episode and TF2.) The difference is that the past games were included right from the beginning with Contra 4 and with the HL episodes in the Orange Box. No-one had bought Contra 4 and HL Ep2 & TF2 BEFORE they came with other stuff.

Nintendo has instead chosen a sneaky and unfair method by including the past games a good two years after the new game was released. I say this is sneaky, because while they can advertise this as a great deal - $50 for all three games! - the fact that they, unlike Konami and Valve, only bundled them after two years means that their target audience will actually be paying $100 (which will prolly be $124 in canada) for all three games. It's a clever marketing trick to fool people into thinking they're getting a great deal while making them pay way more than the games are actually worth.

BTW, nearly EVERYONE in this thread disagrees with you. There might be a reason behind it.;)

"Nintendo of America makes the point that not everybody who owns a Wii owned the GameCube."

did no one in NoA realize that the wii IS a gamecube?

A definite day one buy for me. I own all of them already, but I want the Wii controls for MP1 & 2. MP3: C controlled wonderfully with the Wiimote.

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

[QUOTE="SER69"]So, clicketyclick, what if they instead of the trilogy, announced a Bilogy with the upgraded versions of MP1 and 2 for $50. Would you still call it a rip-off?just_nonplussed

Here's another way of demonstrating to you that this is no deal at all.

Buying the trilogy to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

Trilogy: $50 ($67.80 CDN)

Total: $124.30

Buying the "bilogy" to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

Bilogy: $50 ($67.80 CDN)

Total: $124.30

Buying the games separately to get all three games:

MP3: $50 ( $56.50 CDN)

MP1: $30 ($33.90)

MP2: $30 ($33.90)

Total: $124.30

Intuitively, it seems as though getting MP1 and MP2 in the trilogy is a money-saving deal, even if you've already bought MP3, as you and many others have said. What this shows is that your intuitions are wrong; it saves no money at all.

What the point? You can't trust your intuitions about what FEELS like a deal. You have to look at things mathematically to SEE whether they're actually a good deal or a ripoff.

This post demonstrates that it is NOT a deal for people who already bought MP3. My other post demonstrates that it's actually a ripoff for them.

This is a great deal for people who haven't bought any of the games. For people who bought MP3 already though, or who only want one of the NPC games... it's a ripoff. The problem is that I'll wager there are more of the latter than the former who are actually interested in getting the NPC games. That's why I said the latter is the target audience, and why I said the target audience is getting ripped off.

I am incapable of making my point any clearer to people who still don't follow, unfortunately. All I can say is that you're trying to view it intuitively, which often blinds you to reality, and that's what big companies count on when they offer "money-saving bundles".

this is ridiculous. you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. all of your arguments tend to go past games, into these sticky, ethical and philosophical depths. what do you do with your time? you're arguing a moral point more than anything.

people like metroid prime, they play MP3 and want to go back to the original. they notice the orignal is dated in its controls, so they're willing to pay for those experiences again, albeit with a much improved interface. end of argument.

we're all buying the same stuff over and over again anyway. every metroid, every zelda, every similar action game. it doesn't matter. if you don't want to buy it, don't buy it. you're the gaming equivalent of radical christian groups that try to push their religion on other people.

Thats a nice box set there i cant wait to get it .

How much are they selling that for :owiifan001

I saw this on a pre-order list at Game Crazy about 3 weeks ago. That's pretty cool, and seems like a great deal.

Thats a nice box set there i cant wait to get it .

stonep2277

It sucks that i bought MP3two weeks ago, but this does look awesome...never played 1 or 2, so ill probably buy.

So they're simultaneously screwing over the people who already played 1 and 2, AND the people who already bought Corruption? Nintendo: constantly raising the bar in cash-cow milking.clicketyclick

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Nice, I have a feeling it will be expensive though:(

SER69

I have all three of these games and it's still hard to pass up this deal.

This is even better than the orange box

This is nice because you can smoothly play sequentially through the story from beginning to end. I never thought the 3 games were connected in any way (I never played Echoes), but now I can find out. And with the Wii controls, it'll be a smooth transition among the 3 games.

However, I'm still worried about the door-opening-level-loading problem. I'll just have to wait for the reviews to find out about that.

Looks like this will be my first adventure into the Metroid series (unless I find ausedDS version first). Definitely looks promising!

they fit all 3 games onto 1 disc? MP3 wasn't a dual layered game in the first place?

This just suprises me, but for the price....who can complain. This is a better deal than RE4 for the Wii. Plus, they added bloom lighting

they fit all 3 games onto 1 disc? MP3 wasn't a dual layered game in the first place?

This just suprises me, but for the price....who can complain. This is a better deal than RE4 for the Wii. Plus, they added bloom lighting

danger_ranger95