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#101 superbuuman
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Wow aren't you just a peach of a person :|

People want some good games for their Wii, instead of just having crap like Wii Play, Conduit 2 and Mario Sports Mix for the entire year. Why so happy that they won't get these games? And yeah it is Nintendo's fault not releasing the game despite already being in English.

If this was a PS3 game, it'd be released everywhere more then likely, and if not, could be imported and played with 0 problems on any PS3, from any territory, cos that's how Sony rolls 8) It's only natural to be ****ed off at Ninty being stuck in the past.

gamenerd15

Finding good wii games on the wii is not a problem, and it never was. Anyone can select mediocre titles and throwing out the several dozen good/great ones from a system, so that's not valid.

And it's NOT Nintendo's fault because the consumers would not buy these games. Advertise and Market all you want; none of these 3 would sell. The consumers don't want them. It is smart move of Nintendo from a business perspective not to ship them to North America because they wouldn't sell.

Oh, and why the crap would I care about what lesser company would do as opposed to Nintendo?

How do you know that these games would not sell? You do not know because they will never be released. It is funny how people tend to claim that these games will not make a profit, but no one knows how many copies of these games need to be sold in order for Nintendo to make its money back.

Well Nintendo would have done research & looked at past similar games that was brought to US, & looked at how much was sold, maybe they the sales didn't meet their expectation. Its not people who make claim..Nintendo is not bringing it over because it won't meet their sales expectation. Blame people who says they want it BUT then look at review score of 5 to 7 out of 10 then don't buy it. :P

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#102 nintendoboy16
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Keep pushing them. Keep pushing them. We will not stop!

If we can succeed here, we can do the same for Mother 3.

>:V

Zanoh

Not gonna happen on Mother 3. That game has licensing issues, so you can see why THAT won't get localized.

EDIT: Or maybe not, but it's still too late for the Mother franchise and it's future outside Japan.

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#103 volchcha
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This is never going to work. You guys remember Mother 3? over 30,000 signatures and nothing at all. You got lucky in that case though because the fan translation is perfect.
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#104 Jelley0
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[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

Keep pushing them. Keep pushing them. We will not stop!

If we can succeed here, we can do the same for Mother 3.

>:V

nintendoboy16

Not gonna happen on Mother 3. That game has licensing issues, so you can see why THAT won't get localized.

What licensing issues? I thought that was for Earthbound/Mother 2.

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#105 Nintendonly
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[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

Keep pushing them. Keep pushing them. We will not stop!

If we can succeed here, we can do the same for Mother 3.

>:V

nintendoboy16

Not gonna happen on Mother 3. That game has licensing issues, so you can see why THAT won't get localized.

There are NO licensing issues with Mother 3. Only culture issues. Europe would have had a better chance at having it released.

See:

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#106 JuarN18
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...no one knows how many copies of these games need to be sold in order for Nintendo to make its money back.

yellonet

Except Nintendo, who surely have made calculations regarding this, and those calculations have told them that the risk outweigh the potential gain.

Start buying other games like these and encourage others to do the same, that's the only way to get these kind of games in the future.

Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new world
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#108 TheLordMagnus
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I stand by what I believe in. And this time we are not goin unanswered. 3,000 FB posts and coming...this is proof that those three games can be successful.

Zanoh
Wow..3,000 people. With sales like that, who wouldn't want to sell these games??
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#109 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Zanoh"]

Keep pushing them. Keep pushing them. We will not stop!

If we can succeed here, we can do the same for Mother 3.

>:V

Nintendonly

Not gonna happen on Mother 3. That game has licensing issues, so you can see why THAT won't get localized.

There are NO licensing issues with Mother 3. Only culture issues. Europe would have had a better chance at having it released.

See:

How exactly does that Tingle game releasing in Europe equal a chance for Mother 3's localization? Surely it can't be "culture issues".

EDIT: Or maybe not on the licensing issues, but I still fail to see on how cultural issues affected Mother 3's potential stateside release. None of the other games released in Europe as well.

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#110 yellonet
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Pandora's Tower is now also confirmed for a European release.

Thefatness16

Sweet, this just keeps getting better :)

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#111 Rod90
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[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

Pandora's Tower is now also confirmed for a European release.

yellonet

Sweet, this just keeps getting better :)

Not for us and the US.
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#112 Zanoh
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[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

What are you going to acheive by bombing Ninty's facebook account with your pleas.Just give NOA awhile to reveal the reason there fans may be looking for about these three games being localized.

super600

What one can achieve is better than one doing nothing even if it is for not.

Yes! But it gets annoying whensome of the people in the comments are threateningNinty with dropping their support or are posting in any new non related localization of these gameswall posts ninty makes with talk about these games making it harder for their actually fans to respond to the wall posts ninty puts up.

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis
Fatal Frame IV
Xenoblade
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower

Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

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#113 Rod90
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

What one can achieve is better than one doing nothing even if it is for not.

Zanoh

Yes! But it gets annoying whensome of the people in the comments are threateningNinty with dropping their support or are posting in any new non related localization of these gameswall posts ninty makes with talk about these games making it harder for their actually fans to respond to the wall posts ninty puts up.

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Fatal Frame IV

Xenoblade

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

New Play Control! Pikmin 2


Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

I would add that.

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#114 Nintendonly
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[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"] Not gonna happen on Mother 3. That game has licensing issues, so you can see why THAT won't get localized.nintendoboy16

There are NO licensing issues with Mother 3. Only culture issues. Europe would have had a better chance at having it released.

See:

How exactly does that Tingle game releasing in Europe equal a chance for Mother 3's localization? Surely it can't be "culture issues".

EDIT: Or maybe not on the licensing issues, but I still fail to see on how cultural issues affected Mother 3's potential stateside release. None of the other games released in Europe as well.

Reggie Fils-Aime has said something about how there are scenes in Mother 3 that the North American soccer moms wouldn't like. Not an exact quote, but you get the idea.

Which is why Mother/Earthbound fans hate Reggie.

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#115 TheFallenDemon
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[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Yes! But it gets annoying whensome of the people in the comments are threateningNinty with dropping their support or are posting in any new non related localization of these gameswall posts ninty makes with talk about these games making it harder for their actually fans to respond to the wall posts ninty puts up.

Rod90

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Fatal Frame IV

Xenoblade

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

New Play Control! Pikmin 2


Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

I would add that.

Just play Pikmin 2. Aside from the motion controls, there's nothing that differentiates the Wii version from GameCube.
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#116 Nintendonly
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[QUOTE="Rod90"]

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis

Fatal Frame IV

Xenoblade

The Last Story

Pandora's Tower

New Play Control! Pikmin 2


Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

TheFallenDemon

I would add that.

Just play Pikmin 2. Aside from the motion controls, there's nothing that differentiates the Wii version from GameCube.

Exactly. I didn't miss not having an NPC! version of that game.

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#117 superbuuman
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

What one can achieve is better than one doing nothing even if it is for not.

Zanoh

Yes! But it gets annoying whensome of the people in the comments are threateningNinty with dropping their support or are posting in any new non related localization of these gameswall posts ninty makes with talk about these games making it harder for their actually fans to respond to the wall posts ninty puts up.

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis
Fatal Frame IV
Xenoblade
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower

Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

Won't get Disaster: Day of Crisis due to copyright ...seen the movie "The Rock" Sean Connery & Nicholas Cage part of the story is same as that. dialog & scenes only background & threat is different

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#118 Nintendonly
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[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

Yes! But it gets annoying whensome of the people in the comments are threateningNinty with dropping their support or are posting in any new non related localization of these gameswall posts ninty makes with talk about these games making it harder for their actually fans to respond to the wall posts ninty puts up.

superbuuman

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis
Fatal Frame IV
Xenoblade
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower

Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

Won't get Disaster: Day of Crisis due to copyright ...seen the movie "The Rock" Sean Connery & Nicholas Cage part of the story is same as that. dialog & scenes only background & threat is different

That is false. The reason why it wasn't released in North America isbecause Reggie Fils-Aime openly stated that if it reviewed and sold poorly, they wouldn't release it. And that is exactly what happened.Oddly enough, NOA did all of the localization work, including the voice actors, for that game.

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#119 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="Nintendonly"]

There are NO licensing issues with Mother 3. Only culture issues. Europe would have had a better chance at having it released.

See:

Nintendonly

How exactly does that Tingle game releasing in Europe equal a chance for Mother 3's localization? Surely it can't be "culture issues".

EDIT: Or maybe not on the licensing issues, but I still fail to see on how cultural issues affected Mother 3's potential stateside release. None of the other games released in Europe as well.

Reggie Fils-Aime has said something about how there are scenes in Mother 3 that the North American soccer moms wouldn't like. Not an exact quote, but you get the idea.

Which is why Mother/Earthbound fans hate Reggie.

Find a link to that, because I am calling MASSIVE BS on this. Nintendo has allowed many games on the Wii and DS that "soccer moms" wouldn't like.

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#120 superbuuman
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[QUOTE="superbuuman"]

[QUOTE="Zanoh"]

I am only posting a typical template bomb:

Dear Nintendo:

Please localize the following games:

Disaster: Day of Crisis
Fatal Frame IV
Xenoblade
The Last Story
Pandora's Tower

Sincerely,
A fan since the NES days

Nintendonly

Won't get Disaster: Day of Crisis due to copyright ...seen the movie "The Rock" Sean Connery & Nicholas Cage part of the story is same as that. dialog & scenes only background & threat is different

That is false. The reason why it wasn't released in North America isbecause Reggie Fils-Aime openly stated that if it reviewed and sold poorly, they wouldn't release it. And that is exactly what happened.Oddly enough, NOA did all of the localization work, including the voice actors, for that game.

Well of course they are not gonna say they copy something. Release it in NA you can be sure of lawsuit by whoever made the movie it copied off. They love lawsuit in US.

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#121 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

...no one knows how many copies of these games need to be sold in order for Nintendo to make its money back.

JuarN18

Except Nintendo, who surely have made calculations regarding this, and those calculations have told them that the risk outweigh the potential gain.

Start buying other games like these and encourage others to do the same, that's the only way to get these kind of games in the future.

Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new world

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

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#122 enrique_marrodz
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From what I've heard the only game worth playing out of the three is Xenoblade. The other two arent worth the time and probably have no chance of coming, so I would stop worrying about them. I hope Xenoblade makes it to America, but if not I'm not going to fret over it. The game isnt anything stellar (just good, 8's or 8.5 reviews), but I would certainly buy it if it did come here to show my support. dragonball3900
I think you're misinformed. The Last Story got 38/40 in Famitsu. Xenoblade got 36/40. Pandora's Tower got 31/40 From all three, The Last Sotry is by far the best with Xenoblade coming close. Pandora's Tower is an action game more than anything and as such it may be the weakest from the three
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#123 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="dragonball3900"]From what I've heard the only game worth playing out of the three is Xenoblade. The other two arent worth the time and probably have no chance of coming, so I would stop worrying about them. I hope Xenoblade makes it to America, but if not I'm not going to fret over it. The game isnt anything stellar (just good, 8's or 8.5 reviews), but I would certainly buy it if it did come here to show my support. enrique_marrodz
I think you're misinformed. The Last Story got 38/40 in Famitsu. Xenoblade got 36/40. Pandora's Tower got 31/40 From all three, The Last Sotry is by far the best with Xenoblade coming close. Pandora's Tower is an action game more than anything and as such it may be the weakest from the three

Importers claim that Xenoblade is one of the best JRPG's of this generation, while Last Story is "unfinished" I wouldn't know from personal experience though.
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#124 Rod90
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[QUOTE="TheFallenDemon"][QUOTE="Rod90"]

I would add that.

Nintendonly

Just play Pikmin 2. Aside from the motion controls, there's nothing that differentiates the Wii version from GameCube.

Exactly. I didn't miss not having an NPC! version of that game.

I would play the CGN version of Pikmin 2, but I can't find a copy anywhere... at least a copy with a case or something...
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#125 Shadow-Elite
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I wanna play the Last Story...
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#127 Zanoh
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[QUOTE="yellonet"]

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

...no one knows how many copies of these games need to be sold in order for Nintendo to make its money back.

JuarN18

Except Nintendo, who surely have made calculations regarding this, and those calculations have told them that the risk outweigh the potential gain.

Start buying other games like these and encourage others to do the same, that's the only way to get these kind of games in the future.

Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new world

Yet Fire Emblem, Muramasa, and No more Heores Sold more in the americas than in Japan. :/

I am quite sure the big three we are pushing for will have the same fate.

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#129 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Wow aren't you just a peach of a person :|

People want some good games for their Wii, instead of just having crap like Wii Play, Conduit 2 and Mario Sports Mix for the entire year. Why so happy that they won't get these games? And yeah it is Nintendo's fault not releasing the game despite already being in English.

If this was a PS3 game, it'd be released everywhere more then likely, and if not, could be imported and played with 0 problems on any PS3, from any territory, cos that's how Sony rolls 8) It's only natural to be ****ed off at Ninty being stuck in the past.

locopatho

Finding good wii games on the wii is not a problem, and it never was. Anyone can select mediocre titles and throwing out the several dozen good/great ones from a system, so that's not valid.

And it's NOT Nintendo's fault because the consumers would not buy these games. Advertise and Market all you want; none of these 3 would sell. The consumers don't want them. It is smart move of Nintendo from a business perspective not to ship them to North America because they wouldn't sell.

Oh, and why the crap would I care about what lesser company would do as opposed to Nintendo?

Yep, you are the ideal customer for Nintendo. They can literally dump crap games on you and not bother bringing the good ones and you'll still love them more then anyone. That's pathetic.

You're just mad that those 3 games aren't coming.

The only thing that matters to me is I'm not mad, and I get to laugh at the reactions. :):):) Aww, look at these emoticons, they are so cute. :P

Oh, and I don't know if you know this but: Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, and Xenoblade aren't coming to NoA, hence this is coined as Operation Rainfall, which is a bust. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Well I knew but it was during the E3, so I guess that means I pretty much knew it before everyone else :|

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#130 stizz-
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^ I'm pretty sure Nintendo is laughing at us too. "Silly gamers, wanting games for thier system. You are GREAT fans, really special, but you are stupid. You don't know what you want. We'll TELL you what you enjoy. KIRBY. Now gimme your money!"

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#131 Bubble_Man
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[QUOTE="JuarN18"][QUOTE="yellonet"]Except Nintendo, who surely have made calculations regarding this, and those calculations have told them that the risk outweigh the potential gain.

Start buying other games like these and encourage others to do the same, that's the only way to get these kind of games in the future.

gamenerd15

Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new world

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

Seriously, aside from motion controls, how many wii games couldn't have been done on the gamecube?

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#132 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

[QUOTE="JuarN18"] Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new worldBubble_Man

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

Seriously, aside from motion controls, how many wii games couldn't have been done on the gamecube?

That is like saying aside from being responsible for the deaths of 50 million people what did Hitler do wrong? Motion controls are what make games on Wii different, you can't take them out of the equation.
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#133 OreoMilkshake
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RUMOR - NTSC Version of Xenoblade done, Nintendo sitting on announcement.

Probably fake.

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#134 BrunoBRS
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RUMOR - NTSC Version of Xenoblade done, Nintendo sitting on announcement.

Probably fake.

OreoMilkshake

people are in denial now.

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#135 GameboyTroy
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If they bring those games here they will make more money and people will have more games to play.

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#136 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

[QUOTE="JuarN18"] Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new worldBubble_Man

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

Seriously, aside from motion controls, how many wii games couldn't have been done on the gamecube?

Donkey Kong Returns, both Metroid games, both Mario Galaxy Games, Warioware, Zack and Wiki, Red Steel 2, Monster Hunter Tri, Trauma Center, and others. Mario Kart Wii and Smash Bros Brawl would not have had online. Some parts of Goldeneye look better than GC games.

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#137 gamenerd15
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[QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

meetroid8

Seriously, aside from motion controls, how many wii games couldn't have been done on the gamecube?

That is like saying aside from being responsible for the deaths of 50 million people what did Hitler do wrong? Motion controls are what make games on Wii different, you can't take them out of the equation.

The only difference is that Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on GC. Symphonia only had motion controls with mini games. Those mini games were dumb and did not need to be put in the game at all. You could also move your character in field mode with pointer controls. This movement option did not work so well. Other than those two things, symphonia 2 could have ran on GC. My point was that Symphonia and Radiant Dawn were just ok games. Radiant Dawn was good, but the first one was better. Symphonia 2 was a game made by a different team than the one that created all of the main entries in the series. No one wants to buy a second rate RPG, so Nintendo cannot judge how well Xenoblade and Last Story will do based off of games that were a bit meh in the first place. If a high quality RPG came out and sold poorly, then maybe I could understand Nintendo's position on things.

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#138 Bubble_Man
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[QUOTE="Bubble_Man"]

[QUOTE="gamenerd15"]

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

meetroid8

That is like saying aside from being responsible for the deaths of 50 million people what did Hitler do wrong? Motion controls are what make games on Wii different, you can't take them out of the equation.

That comparisan is way off. Graphically, most wii games could have been done for the GC and the motion controls are typically tacked on and don't feel very inspiring. And for the guy above who made a list of games that couldn't be done, are you bloody kidding me? Donkey Kong Country could have very easily been made for the wii. The first 2 Metroid Primes were on the gamecube and look just as good as the Corruption or Other M. As for Smash Bros not being online, you don't find that many people playing online now anyway.

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#139 enrique_marrodz
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RUMOR - NTSC Version of Xenoblade done, Nintendo sitting on announcement.

Probably fake.

BrunoBRS

people are in denial now.

Why fake? is just a rumor, take it like that, finally is the blog from the movement and some media are considering it plausible

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#140 evilgamer22
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="OreoMilkshake"]

RUMOR - NTSC Version of Xenoblade done, Nintendo sitting on announcement.

Probably fake.

enrique_marrodz

people are in denial now.

Why fake? is just a rumor, take it like that, finally is the blog from the movement and some media are considering it plausible

As much as I want this to be true, it more than likely isn't. It just doesn't make sense for these games to be localized for NA and then Nintendo turn around and say they aren't releasing them in NA. What would be the purpose of that? There is no way this is true, but I do hope I'm wrong.

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As much as I want this to be true, it more than likely isn't. It just doesn't make sense for these games to be localized for NA and then Nintendo turn around and say they aren't releasing them in NA. What would be the purpose of that? There is no way this is true, but I do hope I'm wrong.

evilgamer22

Only thing I can think of is thatthey don't want to spoil the announcements early.

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#142 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="evilgamer22"]

As much as I want this to be true, it more than likely isn't. It just doesn't make sense for these games to be localized for NA and then Nintendo turn around and say they aren't releasing them in NA. What would be the purpose of that? There is no way this is true, but I do hope I'm wrong.

Wanderer5

Only thing I can think of is thatthey don't want to spoil the announcements early.

the game is ready to release according to nintendo, but they just so happen to enjoy being in a drought apparently.
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Nintendo is concerned with the Wii U launch line-up, yet could buy essentially 2 Months of Wii life and thus push back Wii U just by bringing these games to America. I'm sure they'd be titles that would rank pretty high on the Wii's best games list.

If that rumor is true, yippy for me, those are the 2 I wanted.

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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]

Finding good wii games on the wii is not a problem, and it never was. Anyone can select mediocre titles and throwing out the several dozen good/great ones from a system, so that's not valid.

And it's NOT Nintendo's fault because the consumers would not buy these games. Advertise and Market all you want; none of these 3 would sell. The consumers don't want them. It is smart move of Nintendo from a business perspective not to ship them to North America because they wouldn't sell.

Oh, and why the crap would I care about what lesser company would do as opposed to Nintendo?

wiifan001

Yep, you are the ideal customer for Nintendo. They can literally dump crap games on you and not bother bringing the good ones and you'll still love them more then anyone. That's pathetic.

You're just mad that those 3 games aren't coming.

The only thing that matters to me is I'm not mad, and I get to laugh at the reactions. :):):) Aww, look at these emoticons, they are so cute. :P

Oh, and I don't know if you know this but: Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, and Xenoblade aren't coming to NoA, hence this is coined as Operation Rainfall, which is a bust. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Well I knew but it was during the E3, so I guess that means I pretty much knew it before everyone else :|

I'm getting these 3 games, as I live in Europe. (Well I dunno if I'll buy Pandora's Tower yet but I could) The only thing I'm mad about is that some people will literally defend ANYTHING a faceless corporation does, no matter how awful it is for regular gamers. People who are loyal to a corporation over fellow gamers are what make me mad, it's creepy.
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#145 locopatho
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[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="wiifan001"] Or the abysmal sales of fire emblem and tales of symphonia dawn of the new worldwiifan001

At the same time, those games could have been done on the Gamecube. Consumers are not going to buy games that look and play like last generation. Radiant Dawn was supposed to be on the GC, but was moved to Wii. It is a good game, but I can see why it did not have a lot of sales. Radiant Dawn also came out around the time Galaxy 1 was released, so there is your answer for that game. Tales of Symphonia was not that great, the characters were annoying, the game looked old, and the controls were not that great. The mini games were really stupid. Why would anybody buy third rate RPG? Everybody says, "look how poor sales of other games in the genre have sold," but the thing is that a lot of the other RPG's on Wii are not that great. Xenoblade and The Last Story look 8 times better than previous RPG's on Wii. Nintendo has to take all of this into consideration.

Seriously, aside from motion controls, how many wii games couldn't have been done on the gamecube?

I'd say Mario Galaxy series and possibly half a dozen others.
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Yep, you are the ideal customer for Nintendo. They can literally dump crap games on you and not bother bringing the good ones and you'll still love them more then anyone. That's pathetic.locopatho

You're just mad that those 3 games aren't coming.

The only thing that matters to me is I'm not mad, and I get to laugh at the reactions. :):):) Aww, look at these emoticons, they are so cute. :P

Oh, and I don't know if you know this but: Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, and Xenoblade aren't coming to NoA, hence this is coined as Operation Rainfall, which is a bust. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Well I knew but it was during the E3, so I guess that means I pretty much knew it before everyone else :|

I'm getting these 3 games, as I live in Europe. (Well I dunno if I'll buy Pandora's Tower yet but I could) The only thing I'm mad about is that some people will literally defend ANYTHING a faceless corporation does, no matter how awful it is for regular gamers. People who are loyal to a corporation over fellow gamers are what make me mad, it's creepy.

Nintendo aren't exactly faceless, they have several prominent figures that generally are well thought of as they consequently behave very professionally.

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#147 yellonet
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These games likely wouldn't sell very good in North America, that's why Nintendo won't bother localizing them.
It's as simple as that.
Nintendo can't release games just to be nice, they also need to make a profit.
If you wan't to blame someone, the fault really lies in your collective gaming culture as that is what makes these kind of games unattractive to the market as a whole.
So in reality, the same culture that brings you more games of certain genres inevetably makes you lose some games from other genres.
It's your culture, deal with it.

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#148 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]

Yep, you are the ideal customer for Nintendo. They can literally dump crap games on you and not bother bringing the good ones and you'll still love them more then anyone. That's pathetic.locopatho

You're just mad that those 3 games aren't coming.

The only thing that matters to me is I'm not mad, and I get to laugh at the reactions. :):):) Aww, look at these emoticons, they are so cute. :P

Oh, and I don't know if you know this but: Pandora's Tower, The Last Story, and Xenoblade aren't coming to NoA, hence this is coined as Operation Rainfall, which is a bust. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Well I knew but it was during the E3, so I guess that means I pretty much knew it before everyone else :|

I'm getting these 3 games, as I live in Europe. (Well I dunno if I'll buy Pandora's Tower yet but I could) The only thing I'm mad about is that some people will literally defend ANYTHING a faceless corporation does, no matter how awful it is for regular gamers. People who are loyal to a corporation over fellow gamers are what make me mad, it's creepy.

A couple software titles aren't coming to North America, and that is all. This isn't anything new. We've had licensed software exclusive in Japan since even before even the NES and up until now, and there will continue to be software that doesn't make it in certain regions in the decades to come. This isn't anything major, it's ridiculous with the amount of feedback and backlash Nintendo is getting for it.

And another thing: These titles wouldn't sell beans in North America. There's a larger part of the picture that is commonly not being seen here.

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#149 stizz-
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^ I think the backlash has to do with the fact that not many games are coming out for Wii this year. That and region-lock making it more difficult to import.

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#150 ii20JcM05ii
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There's a lot that does into the decision making to bring games over. A lot of work (American voice acting and such), plus a lot of paper work. They don't wanna say "YES" now when they havn't even started work on the games, and they'll arrive in like 2 or 3 years, when people won't even want them anymore. I'ms sure though they will take this into consideration for the future and plan ahead and know what type of games to bring in the future!