Nintendo did a bad job on the 3DS...

by not showing people that it is a NEXT GEN handheld system, come on "3DS" was smart and catchy but it makes everyone think that its just the DS with 3D capabilitys, when really its not...i think they really NEED to change its name.

I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.TriniPlayer

[QUOTE="TriniPlayer"]I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.White_wolf_eye

I pretty sure most casual gamers have no Idea what a console generation is.

The exact situation:

Core Gamer: "It's a new generation, I'll buy it"

Casual Gamer: "Oo, it's new, I'll buy it"

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="TriniPlayer"]I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.BrunoBRS

I pretty sure most casual gamers have no Idea what a console generation is.

The exact situation:

Core Gamer: "It's a new generation, I'll buy it"

Casual Gamer: "Oo, it's new, I'll buy it"

19061980

basicly this

nintendo should show the "casual gamer" that this is another generation console, not just another DS

I think Nintendo has already said it's a brand new handheld. Only stupid people haven't figured it out yet, you know, the ones who constantly troll the forums making new threads asking the question of whether or notit's a new handheld, when really all they need to do is look at other threads that have answered this.

So Nintendo didn't do a bad job at all. The OP's got it all messed up.

[QUOTE="19061980"]

I pretty sure most casual gamers have no Idea what a console generation is.

The exact situation:

Core Gamer: "It's a new generation, I'll buy it"

Casual Gamer: "Oo, it's new, I'll buy it"

White_wolf_eye

basicly this

nintendo should show the "casual gamer" that this is another generation console, not just another DS

That's not what I meant at all. I meant casual ganers won't care that it's a new generation. They'll buy it just because it's new and says Nintendo on it.

by not showing people that it is a NEXT GEN handheld system, come on "3DS" was smart and catchy but it makes everyone think that its just the DS with 3D capabilitys, when really its not...i think they really NEED to change its name.

White_wolf_eye

I pretty sure most casual gamers have no Idea what a console generation is.

The exact situation:

Core Gamer: "It's a new generation, I'll buy it"

Casual Gamer: "Oo, it's new, I'll buy it"

19061980

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="19061980"]

I pretty sure most casual gamers have no Idea what a console generation is.

The exact situation:

Core Gamer: "It's a new generation, I'll buy it"

Casual Gamer: "Oo, it's new, I'll buy it"

19061980

basicly this

nintendo should show the "casual gamer" that this is another generation console, not just another DS

That's not what I meant at all. I meant casual ganers won't care that it's a new generation. They'll buy it just because it's new and says Nintendo on it.

the DS tank, Ds lite, DSI, DSI XL, people are going to think: "they have made like 20 different DS's already im not ganna buy anymore" but its not just another DS

You know people aren't as dumb as critics and forum dwellers think they are. Just because they don't hang out on IGN everyday, doesn't mean they cant find out about a product in other ways. Yeah there are a lot of impulse buyers out there, but that's just how some people are, they buy into the hype. But most people actually know what their getting and they will know that its not just another redesign. Sepewrath

I think that casual gamer's buy just about every thing Nintendo makes Core gamer's usually only buy new generations like the 3DS.

Even if some people don't catch on right away, they'll eventually see a 3DS section in stores and it'll sink in at that point.

[QUOTE="19061980"]

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

basicly this

nintendo should show the "casual gamer" that this is another generation console, not just another DS

White_wolf_eye

That's not what I meant at all. I meant casual ganers won't care that it's a new generation. They'll buy it just because it's new and says Nintendo on it.

the DS tank, Ds lite, DSI, DSI XL, people are going to think: "they have made like 20 different DS's already im not ganna buy anymore" but its not just another DS

yeah... was there even a point of making the DSI XL?

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"] yeah well its not obvious to those who dont wetch e3...the casual gamer.

White_wolf_eye

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] my parents are pretty aware that it's a new generation of handhelds and they didn't even look for info on it. hell, they consider the DSi a new generation. also, do you think the so called "casual" gamers care which generation the videogame's from? and finally, when the gameboy advance came out, was evey acting as if it was just a gameboy color revamp?BrunoBRS

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"][QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"] really....the same parents that called the DS a "gameboy" lol

White_wolf_eye

Even if some people don't catch on right away, they'll eventually see a 3DS section in stores and it'll sink in at that point.

moltenix

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"] yes. that's how obvious the mere addition of 3D graphics means a whole new generation.BrunoBRS

Everyone (well, that I know of) in Dominican Republic calls every console "Nintendo." :P
Even the PS3 and XBOX360.
My parents also called my DS "gameboy" for the first few months. They eventually saw the difference between the two. :lol:

Mom is starting to realize that the 3DS is "next generation." It's probably 'cause she never experienced real 3D, so its pretty advanced for her. :P

No its a briliant move by Nintendo. The casual gamer sees the DS part and links it to the great times they had with their DS.Anyone looking to buy one will quickly learn the differences. Nintendo is buliding a DS brand which is really good for sales

hmmm I am not sure if I agree or not. There seems to be some confusion already, so it would be interesting to see it change its name back to gameboy something but I think 3DS is good and most of the hardcore will catch on soon and the casual wont care or will notice when they see ads and it in stores.

It'll kind of be like the difference between the Gameboy Color and the Gameboy Advance. They still had Gameboy in their names but they were totally different.

But the problem this time is that they designed the damn thing so similar to the DS that confusion is the only natural reaction. Look at Gamespot, a gaming site, they have been saying that the 3DS was another itteration all the way TO E3. But people will eventually catch on, like the guy above me...probably when they see the big red 3 added to the case.

It'll kind of be like the difference between the Gameboy Color and the Gameboy Advance. They still had Gameboy in their names but they were totally different.

But the problem this time is that they designed the damn thing so similar to the DS that confusion is the only natural reaction. Look at Gamespot, a gaming site, they have been saying that the 3DS was another itteration all the way TO E3. But people will eventually catch on, like the guy above me...probably when they see the big red 3 added to the case.

ZIVX

haha I hear ya about it looking VERY VERY similar to the DS but I don't want them to change it as it looks like a DS but a bit better with some of the mods.

[QUOTE="ZIVX"]

It'll kind of be like the difference between the Gameboy Color and the Gameboy Advance. They still had Gameboy in their names but they were totally different.

But the problem this time is that they designed the damn thing so similar to the DS that confusion is the only natural reaction. Look at Gamespot, a gaming site, they have been saying that the 3DS was another itteration all the way TO E3. But people will eventually catch on, like the guy above me...probably when they see the big red 3 added to the case.

NaveedLife

haha I hear ya about it looking VERY VERY similar to the DS but I don't want them to change it as it looks like a DS but a bit better with some of the mods.

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="ZIVX"]

It'll kind of be like the difference between the Gameboy Color and the Gameboy Advance. They still had Gameboy in their names but they were totally different.

But the problem this time is that they designed the damn thing so similar to the DS that confusion is the only natural reaction. Look at Gamespot, a gaming site, they have been saying that the 3DS was another itteration all the way TO E3. But people will eventually catch on, like the guy above me...probably when they see the big red 3 added to the case.

White_wolf_eye

haha I hear ya about it looking VERY VERY similar to the DS but I don't want them to change it as it looks like a DS but a bit better with some of the mods.

You are right I do disagree :P

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

haha I hear ya about it looking VERY VERY similar to the DS but I don't want them to change it as it looks like a DS but a bit better with some of the mods.

NaveedLife

You are right I do disagree :P

idk i liked psp gos design alot, my cousins thought that the psp go was like the next gen consule, and whne i told theem about the 3DS they said they werent ganna get it because it was teh same old stuff as teh normal DS, that really made me mad because they already had psp 3000's

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"] you guys migth diagree but it hink it should look a little more like teh psp go

White_wolf_eye

You are right I do disagree :P

idk i liked psp gos design alot, my cousins thought that the psp go was like the next gen consule, and whne i told theem about the 3DS they said they werent ganna get it because it was teh same old stuff as teh normal DS, that really made me mad because they already had psp 3000's

LOL! That's funny. The design of the 3DS doesnt need to change cause its already so darn great. The PSP Go is a failure, tell your cousins that ;). I love my PS3 and Sony has been doing great lately, but the Go is just a big mistake. How would you make something like the Go have two screens? How would you use it to touch and have cameras on both sides and so on. it is just not what fits the purposes of a DS. Things should not be changed just for the sake of change.

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

You are right I do disagree :P

NaveedLife

idk i liked psp gos design alot, my cousins thought that the psp go was like the next gen consule, and whne i told theem about the 3DS they said they werent ganna get it because it was teh same old stuff as teh normal DS, that really made me mad because they already had psp 3000's

LOL! That's funny. The design of the 3DS doesnt need to change cause its already so darn great. The PSP Go is a failure, tell your cousins that ;). I love my PS3 and Sony has been doing great lately, but the Go is just a big mistake. How would you make something like the Go have two screens? How would you use it to touch and have cameras on both sides and so on. it is just not what fits the purposes of a DS. Things should not be changed just for the sake of change.

yea but sometimes change is needed to show people that there has been change.....you get me?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

idk i liked psp gos design alot, my cousins thought that the psp go was like the next gen consule, and whne i told theem about the 3DS they said they werent ganna get it because it was teh same old stuff as teh normal DS, that really made me mad because they already had psp 3000's

White_wolf_eye

LOL! That's funny. The design of the 3DS doesnt need to change cause its already so darn great. The PSP Go is a failure, tell your cousins that ;). I love my PS3 and Sony has been doing great lately, but the Go is just a big mistake. How would you make something like the Go have two screens? How would you use it to touch and have cameras on both sides and so on. it is just not what fits the purposes of a DS. Things should not be changed just for the sake of change.

yea but sometimes change is needed to show people that there has been change.....you get me?

I get ya, but I wouldnt change the next nintendo console to a crappily built console like MS's just so it is different. haha I know what you mean, but I enjoy a comfertable and versatile system that doesnt have the screen exposed to get scratched either ;).

To the casual's, this is true. Nintendo have done this before though. Gameboy Colour - Gameboy Advance. Both different, though similar names. So Nintendo will try their best to push this onto T.V screen in peoples homes and they'll have to do something that will show them its not just added a 3D display onto a DS.

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="19061980"]

That's not what I meant at all. I meant casual ganers won't care that it's a new generation. They'll buy it just because it's new and says Nintendo on it.

Dr_Killa

the DS tank, Ds lite, DSI, DSI XL, people are going to think: "they have made like 20 different DS's already im not ganna buy anymore" but its not just another DS

yeah... was there even a point of making the DSI XL?

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="19061980"]

That's not what I meant at all. I meant casual ganers won't care that it's a new generation. They'll buy it just because it's new and says Nintendo on it.

Dr_Killa

the DS tank, Ds lite, DSI, DSI XL, people are going to think: "they have made like 20 different DS's already im not ganna buy anymore" but its not just another DS

yeah... was there even a point of making the DSI XL?

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

idk i liked psp gos design alot, my cousins thought that the psp go was like the next gen consule, and whne i told theem about the 3DS they said they werent ganna get it because it was teh same old stuff as teh normal DS, that really made me mad because they already had psp 3000's

White_wolf_eye

LOL! That's funny. The design of the 3DS doesnt need to change cause its already so darn great. The PSP Go is a failure, tell your cousins that ;). I love my PS3 and Sony has been doing great lately, but the Go is just a big mistake. How would you make something like the Go have two screens? How would you use it to touch and have cameras on both sides and so on. it is just not what fits the purposes of a DS. Things should not be changed just for the sake of change.

yea but sometimes change is needed to show people that there has been change.....you get me?

I think it's a fun, catchy little title. People who still have to ask if it's a new system obviously haven't taken the time to read any of the E3 reports.

Well, they have been working on the 3DS for 6 years now, I think it's time. Soon the 3DS will lead to new and better technology, even if the 3DS itself isn't a new system generation.

I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.TriniPlayer

not from my experience.

White_wolf_eye

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

[QUOTE="19061980"]

That's not what I meant at all. I meant casual ganers won't care that it's a new generation. They'll buy it just because it's new and says Nintendo on it.

Dr_Killa

the DS tank, Ds lite, DSI, DSI XL, people are going to think: "they have made like 20 different DS's already im not ganna buy anymore" but its not just another DS

yeah... was there even a point of making the DSI XL?

Someone should make a thread and get it stickied, saying in the title, "The 3DS is the next gen of Nintendo Handhelds". lol seriously I can't believe the amount of confusion.

Nintendo educates it's casual gamers pretty well on it's products. There will be a load of adverts that describe the new improvements of the system in a way that will get them interested.

And most traditional gamers who are interested in the DS will be well aware that it is a new console rather than just a minor update.

[QUOTE="White_wolf_eye"]

not from my experience.

Sepewrath

lol that is reality, and the people i know are just as dense as anyone else.

You seriously care about the name? Most people don't even know what DS means. If they do, it only means Dual Screen. That fails to mention it having a microphone and a touch screen, yet everyone who sought out to buy one or has one knew that before they bought it. People won't blindly buy game consoles, they'll know what it has before buying it. Rheiken

lol alot of people that didnt buy nintendogs dont even know it has a mic, or that you dont need a headset to talk to people.

The OP is actually pretty spot-on.

You guys cant argue from the, "if you had watched E3....", or "Nintendo *said* it was next-gen", because not everybody follows video games like we do. With all the different DS's out there, you'd be hard pressed to know that this is a new generation handheld just by the name.

Its all marketing. Ideally, if everybody was knowledgeable, or had the motivation to become knowledgeable about products they have an interest in buying, there would be absolutely no need for marketing at all.

I dont think Nintendo have done a good job at all about making it known that this is not just another version of the DS. Thats evidenced by all the people that are still unaware. But to be honest, there's still plenty of time. We're probably not gonna get the 3DS til early next year, so there's 6 months+ for Nintendo to get the word out and do some better marketing for it. Nintendo is usually quite good in this area.

The OP is actually pretty spot-on.

You guys cant argue from the, "if you had watched E3....", or "Nintendo *said* it was next-gen", because not everybody follows video games like we do. With all the different DS's out there, you'd be hard pressed to know that this is a new generation handheld just by the name.

Its all marketing. Ideally, if everybody was knowledgeable, or had the motivation to become knowledgeable about products they have an interest in buying, there would be absolutely no need for marketing at all.

I dont think Nintendo have done a good job at all about making it known that this is not just another version of the DS. Thats evidenced by all the people that are still unaware. But to be honest, there's still plenty of time. We're probably not gonna get the 3DS til early next year, so there's 6 months+ for Nintendo to get the word out and do some better marketing for it. Nintendo is usually quite good in this area.

seankane

I thought it was obvious that it was the next gen handheld since it got it's own lineup of games.TriniPlayer