Nintendo Making Next Zelda With Brain Training In Mind?

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=193464

I don't think I like the sound of that...

ohhhh god, please no!

Forget the non hardcore gamers!

LMAO

Great.. it must suck to be a developer at Nintendo, instead of "Ok wow.. let's see, the next Zelda, ok people flood me with awesome ideas!" it's "Ok the new Zelda.. how can we add Nintendo's newest motto into the game design and make it accessible for everyone?"

Please.. they already gimped Mario Kart by making it so n00bified some 7 year old tard can beat an adult veteran.

And Mario Galaxy wasn't hard.. I beat the game with 242 stars in less than a week easily. Twilight Princess for all the promised hours (what they said 72 hours?) first time through I beat it in 27 hours. If they don't challenge the hardcore crowd with the hardcore games, but simply n00bify them for the casuals, they WILL lose their hardcore audience.

I'm not enthused for the next Zelda at all, what with talk of encorporating the Wii Fit board, and now the 1:1 motion plus, and talk of applying touch generations influences to make it accessible for retar- ahem I mean 'casuals'

Miyamoto needs to go work for Toy Kingdom.

Oh god please don't screw up Zelda like you screwed up Mario Kart.mushir123

They didn't screw up Mario Kart. You can hold out about three blue shells if you have enough skills. There's a reason why casual gamers usually have about 3k points online and "core gamers" about 8k. ;)

Also all the new roads are freaking awesome.

Anyway, please don't make this on Phantom Hourglass standard. I think Twilight Princess is superior to OoT ( not to MM though ), but Zelda DS was AWFUL compared to other titles.

Its a design philosophy, more or less the same as the one Lionhead has used in their games and especially in Fable 2. Make the game accessible to everyone but without compromising its depth. Its about the controls and gameplay approach. SMG controls are really simple and so is what you can do but there is still a lot of depth to the game because they maximize and utilize every little bit of what you can do with those controls.

And thats what they need to do with Zelda Wii. Create a game with a new design approach where we may not necessarily have a plethora of items like TP, but a core few like in PH that have a tremendous amount of depth to them and usability within the game world. And with that create a world that is rich with content and rewards the player for exploring and experimenting with the controls and the items they have.

Its a design philosophy, more or less the same as the one Lionhead has used in their games and especially in Fable 2. Make the game accessible to everyone but without compromising its depth. Its about the controls and gameplay approach. SMG controls are really simple and so is what you can do but there is still a lot of depth to the game because they maximize and utilize every little bit of what you can do with those controls.

And thats what they need to do with Zelda Wii. Create a game with a new design approach where we may not necessarily have a plethora of items like TP, but a core few like in PH that have a tremendous amount of depth to them and usability within the game world. And with that create a world that is rich with content and rewards the player for exploring and experimenting with the controls and the items they have.

enduin

Sir, I demand that you get a job developing games for Ninty this instant :P

"For example, we've got the Touch Generations series. Now, we're not necessarily going to make our 'franchise' games in that style, but we'll take what we know and have learned -- the philosophy behind those games -- and incorporate it into franchise games. That's a philosophy that's very strong at Nintendo."

They didn't say that will include the Touch Generations series on Zelda. All they want to say is they want to bring something new that non-gamers and core gamers should like it. It confirms that Zelda will have new ideas.

But there's no Brain Training at all on Zelda.

"For example, we've got the Touch Generations series. Now, we're not necessarily going to make our 'franchise' games in that style, but we'll take what we know and have learned -- the philosophy behind those games -- and incorporate it into franchise games. That's a philosophy that's very strong at Nintendo."

They didn't say that will include the Touch Generations series on Zelda. All they want to say is they want to bring something new that non-gamers and core gamers should like it. It confirms that Zelda will have new ideas.

But there's no Brain Training at all on Zelda.

chris3116

While I feel a little guilty trying to shoot down any optimism (because I do want to keep some myself) Nintendo also believe that we will all be enjoying Wii music, but I am afraid they have very mch lost touch with were gamers are and how non-gamers are different.

What I understand from reading that, is that Miyamoto wants to make games like Zelda and Mario easier for casual players to pick up and play but still keep hardcore gamers satisfied. So maybe they'll incorporate different control options. Before you start the game you can choose an easier control style which would be for casual players. Maybe you can even choose a difficulty. You've never been able to choose a difficulty on any Zelda or Mario game before, it's just one set difficulty for the entire game. Sure, the levels may get more challenging in Mario games and the puzzles and dungeons get harder in Zelda games but the overall difficulty doesn't really change. There's a lot they could do to make those games easier for casual players. It doesn't mean they've forgotten about hardcore gamers.

All I've read from people posting in this thread is that almost everyone think's the next Zelda game will be ruined. Why not wait until more info is released instead of whining about something you all know nothing about? If you're a true Zelda fan you'll buy the next Zelda game anyways because it's Zelda and incase you've all forgotten, this is Shigeru Miyamoto we're talking about. It's safe to say he knows what he's doing. Just wait and see.

LOL seriously all you can do is laugh now.. i mean nintendo just needs to stfu now im through with them, every time words come out there mouths its about appealing to casual gamers.. ok go do that nintendo, go make your money but please why must you alienate your core audience to such extent that now you want to casualise the core games that we grew up on.. im through with nintendo, xbox 360 is the way to go now. (already have one)

and for any noob that wants to quote me and say im over-reacting please dont because you are truely blind if you think that nintendo gives a damn about you anymore. if they did they would go back to making games like star fox 64, super mario bros 3, legend of zelda oot, metroid , you know games that were really challenging and rewarding, Hardcore Games.

hurley_house

Yep...I agree (except PS3 is the way to go!).

Oh God :shock: This might make me sell my Wii

"For example, we've got the Touch Generations series. Now, we're not necessarily going to make our 'franchise' games in that **** but we'll take what we know and have learned -- the philosophy behind those games -- and incorporate it into franchise games. That's a philosophy that's very strong at Nintendo."

They aren't going to make them in that s tyle. They are going to try to make it appeal more to casual gamer's and non-gamers. This could mean anything..

If Nintendo messes up Zelda.....

And for the record, Super Mario Galaxy was awesome. I don't care if it was a little easier than SM64 - I loved it anyway.

Oh god oh god oh god (etc). I am very loyal to Nintendo but this only goes so far. Please for god sakes Miyamoto, DON'T TOUCH ZELDA!

I'm scared, I really am, if this happens to Zelda, and some crowd of nOObs, sorry it's 'gamers' now isn't it? What if it goes into games like Metroid, Starfox, Mario!! The new Zelda...Oh wow a switch! *steps on Wii fit board*...test Link's IQ *enters Brain training*. Please no.

I do agree with the people saying they wrecked Mario Kart Wii, it was a moderately good game, but I got it not that long ago and I have already forgotten about it, whereas I played DD for 5 years. Casual gamers need casual games, not making the 'hardcore' games easier for casuals, where do we go? I really do hope another console comes into the market.

I think we are officially forgotten about guys...

hehe, when i heard the title i thought of Zelda: Train your sword skills in minutes a day!

But seriously, Zelda better not go super casual on us.

and for any noob that wants to quote me and say im over-reacting please dont because you are truely blind if you think that nintendo gives a damn about you anymore. if they did they would go back to making games like star fox 64, super mario bros 3, legend of zelda oot, metroid , you know games that were really challenging and rewarding, Hardcore Games.

hurley_house

Yeah, like if microsoft and sony care about gamers, they only care about our money and it's normal they're companies. And if you dislike so much what Nintendo is doing this generation then please be my guest and sell your Wii and use the money wisely.

to make it accessible for retar- ahem I mean 'casuals'

SolemnJedi79

because someone has busy life and can't spend much time playing or is a beginner at something doesn't make him a retard wash your mouth and be polite.

I don't know why people is reacting like this, we know nothing about the game yet, making the controls easier doesn't mean nothing and that has always been done. Super Marion Bros was easy to pick up and play, even my mom played it.

what with talk of encorporating the Wii Fit board SolemnJedi79

Frankly, you people are overreacting. Simpler userface, ie controls, does not mean its gonna be totally ******. Look at SMG and how good that was. My only problem is that puzzles might be simpler, but seriously how many times have we already done them even before and after OoT. Really, if they can make some kind of new system that is easy enough for the casuals, yet still enough to challenge the core because its so different than what we are used to, then I dont see a problem with that.

because someone has busy life and can't spend much time playing or is a beginner at something doesn't make him a retard wash your mouth and be polite.

It was a harsh way of saying this, but it's a fact. Nintendo wanted to bring noobs to games, and now, since they'll make much more money with this wider audience, we aren't worth anything anymore. Some loyal Nintendo fans will probably stay true to the Wii until its end, but personally, I'd rather get a 360 and rent the occasional good games that comes out on Wii. Galaxy, Corruption, Super Paper Mario and TP was a huge disappointment to me.

Of course, I'm still getting Animal Crossing : City Folk, The Conduit and Dawn of the New World.

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and for any noob that wants to quote me and say im over-reacting please dont because you are truely blind if you think that nintendo gives a damn about you anymore. if they did they would go back to making games like star fox 64, super mario bros 3, legend of zelda oot, metroid , you know games that were really challenging and rewarding, Hardcore Games.

vivi2000

Yeah, like if microsoft and sony care about gamers, they only care about our money and it's normal they're companies. And if you dislike so much what Nintendo is doing this generation then please be my guest and sell your Wii and use the money wisely.

why do u feel the need to defend nintendo so much, its okay to criticise them. ive been playing nintendo systems scince the snes days and quite frankly ive been satisfied alot until now. they have put their focus on casuals not us, theyve proved this over and over and it was so blatant at E3. they have put us aside in one corner so why should i be bothered with there products any more, i doubt it will ever have that essence of epicness as previous nintendo games as they look to even try and casualise there core franchises. i may be over reacting but frankly i feel abused 0_o ...