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#1 fluffers623
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i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?
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#2 tobenator
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My thoughts are in my review, and yeah, I thought it was fun.  Haven't seen one of these threads for a while, but it all depends on the player.  It was a love or hate game.  I loved it, I'm glad I bought it:).

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#3 DS_fan_atic
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Red Steel was ok as a launch title...but playing it now, it feels sloppy and full of bugs. The only thing that is still fun these days is the multiplayer.
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#4 cobrax80
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i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?fluffers623

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

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#5 SapSacPrime
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I may find time to write a review later but I basically feel it was more of a 7.2 game, give or take a few points.  The problem is though after playing a few hours I reached the point were the game really starts to glitch, that and the fact the sword mechanics feel heavy made me actually not enjoy this game until I had actually almost finished it when I starting to look past its bad points. 

RS is truly a game which was rushed out for launch too quickly and it takes some looking past its bugs and glitches to really enjoy it, but I don't think reviewers had enough play time prior to reviews being written to realise this.  Still it must make review writers feel a bit unessicary when games they have been scoring awful are selling so well, almost as if nobody even reads them.

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#6 proudeskimo
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I rented it off gamefly expecting a crappy game from the reviews. I was surprised. I don't understand how a reviewer could give this game a 5.5. I had more fun with this in single player than in either Halo, or any other FPS.
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#7 -Sparkz-
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Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

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#8 danneswegman
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it's pretty fun. looking forward to a sequel.. they do need to adress a lot of issues though..
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#9 reggie186
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Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

-Sparkz-

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

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#10 yakk_3
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[QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

reggie186

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

amen reggie.

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#11 Shinobishyguy
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from what I've played..the game isn't AS bad as GS makes it out to be. It has a lot of bugs and was rushed...but it makes a good rental
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#12 theICE_MAN
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the single player was repatitve because of the awful ai but the multi-player was pretty great.
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#13 stevenk4k5
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[QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

reggie186

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality. 

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#14 reggie186
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[QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

stevenk4k5

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality. 

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

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#15 tim4rd
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this game doesnt get the credit it deserved no its not the next goldeneye but it was a good game. when red steel two comes out i expect a huge improvement on multiplayer and single player
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#16 stevenk4k5
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[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

reggie186

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality.

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

Rofl. XD 

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#17 zcds
Member since 2005 • 1984 Posts

I liked red steel but it deserved the score it got for many reasons

It was full of bugs

slopy sword fighting

bad AI 

strightforward leavels

still cutseans

it's short

but at least multi palyer is good.  

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#18 SuprLuigi
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It Sucked
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#19 Hungry_Homer111
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I just reviewed it yesterday and gave it a 7.0.  Like I said in my review, there were a lot of bad things about the game, and whether you like the game or not depends on how much you are able to forgive these things.
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#20 ShadyNinjaMan1
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What surprises me is how everyone is saying "It was full of bugs."

I haven't played the game, so I'm curious, what bugs are there? People might be reading this and wondering whether they should buy the game or not (I'm one of them).

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#21 ArturoMena4
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[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

reggie186

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality.

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

Well...that didn't sound intelligent at all... :S... Sorry "Reggie"

And... Red Steel is a great game!!! But, I would 've liked more motion movements, not just the grenades and the sword fighting...

I really would recommend this game...and the Multiplayer is awsome!!! Its so fun to play with your friends.

Red Steel: 8.9 (A+!) 

 

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#22 meimnobody
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The bugs the geninue ones can easily be avoided. Turn down the wiimote speaker volume.

The va I honestly have to ask what the hell do you expect Japanese people living in Japan to sound when they speak English? Most of them sound far far far worse then you could ever imagine. Because guess what English not a spoken language there. They speak Japanese. Those that learn English never really practice it. Most of those that are fluent use a translator. Miyamoto and Iwata are incredibly fluent English speakers but they always translaters to translate their Japanese into English. Reason their English is heavily accented.

Most Japanese people living in Japan that can speak accurate English sound exactly like the people in Red Steel.

Certain sounds in the English don't exist in Japanese so they never learn to accent those sounds properly. One of the reasons Revolution was dropped is because Japanese people cannot say the word because the v and the sound don't exist in Japanese. Most of them pronounce it as a W sound.

The vast majority of Japanese people that would actually speak English without an accent live guess where in English speaking countries where they have had a decade or more to practice English.

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#23 tomarlyn
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I don't think its great but its not much worse than COD3 which I enjoyed.

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#24 Xakk
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What surprises me is how everyone is saying "It was full of bugs."

I haven't played the game, so I'm curious, what bugs are there? People might be reading this and wondering whether they should buy the game or not (I'm one of them).

ShadyNinjaMan1

Lots of lil things.  Like enemy parts would some times stick through doors and other objects(a la Goldeneye) and there were a few places where you could walk through walls or objects yourself.  Also sometimes enemies would spawn but not be able to move, they would just stand there stationary like an action figure, but they would still taunt you and such.  If you want to see some glitches and bugs yourself, you should just search "Redsteel Glitch" or "Redsteel Bug" on youtube.

The best one I've encountered(but been unable to recreate) is on the final sword battle, instead of drawing my sword, I drew my hand with a gun in it.  I couldn't fire, but I could kind of swing it around.

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#25 gatsbythepig
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It isn't terrible, it was just overhyped.
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#26 davemaster42
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I really enjoyed Red Steel I would have to give it an 8.0 impressive I mean come on it was the first kinda control scheme for a home console and I think it works quite well if u have a Wii then get Red Steel.
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#27 meimnobody
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nly in one area could I walk through stuff and that was in the sky lift area and that took a while to do. It crashed the game.

Never encountered those others. One bugged enemy spawn I was able to recreate but if you killed them in a certain manner they didn't get up and run away from you in invicible mode.

I have seen those other bugs you described in many a high rated game. Sorry but they exist in lots of games but somehow the game fawners never mention them.

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#28 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

reggie186

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality. 

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

I think your just one of those guys who just wants to criticize every little thing about a game and doesint just sit down and enjoy the game. Me I loved the game. Yea it had some problems, but it still was a fun game.

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#29 Hir0_N
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Not polished enough imo. If they hasd more time maybe... But anyways I lost all the respect I had in Ubisoft. All they are giving us right now are crappy ports from last gen with tacked on motion sensing. Ubiport sucks.
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#30 reggie186
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[QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

ArturoMena4

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality.

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

Well...that didn't sound intelligent at all... :S... Sorry "Reggie"

Red Steel: 8.9 (A+!) 

 

 

Hey now, I'm not the one who claims that an 8.9 (out of ten presumably) is an A+... Maybe you shouldn't be attacking others about intelligence.

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#31 reggie186
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[QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

finalfantasy94

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality. 

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

I think your just one of those guys who just wants to criticize every little thing about a game and doesint just sit down and enjoy the game. Me I loved the game. Yea it had some problems, but it still was a fun game.

There were some parts of the game I liked (when I reviewed it I gave it a 5.9, so I liked it more than even Gamespot), but the fact that people claim that this game is great really makes me sad. You could have it so much better, and I think that you should.

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#32 creativeminded
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I think 5.5 is fair and 6.0 at most. It wasn't great or awful just ok. 5.5 says ok
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#33 Boba_Fett_3710
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I thought the best thing about the game was the graphics. It wasn't a bad launch game and it did look pretty good. The controls sucked and the voice acting was by far the worst I've ever heard but it was an OK game. It's a shame they didn't even try patching it through WiiConnect24.
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#34 cobrax80
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[QUOTE="stevenk4k5"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="-Sparkz-"]

Yeah, Redsteel is pretty good. I think it deserves an 8.7 :)

reggie186

*sigh* I don't know why some people have such low standards.

Some people have different tastes, Reggie...

There is such a thing called individuality. 

I guess there's a fine line between individuality and insanity.

oh, so someone likes a game more than you do and so suddenly their insane:roll:

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#35 Quilex
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Red Steel is the first game I have got for Wii (excluding sport & Play) and I am having fun with it. I find the controls fine, no where near as bad as some say, there are some nice touches like the spot lights and that almost every item can be damaged. Now I have not had a consol since the original PS so am used to PC games and may be I am unaware of what's out there but I think Red steel is worth the money.

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#36 digital_soul
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[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?cobrax80

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

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#37 komdosina
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Nice to know that people who didn't like Red Steel can't just state their opinion and leave it at that, yeah all judgements need to be the same as GS :roll:.

 

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#38 Iorning_board
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I liked it a lot, it was a good enjoyable game, the sword fights were a nice touch too, hopefully the 2nd has far less bugs and bots for MP. 
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#39 ShadowFFVI
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No...red steel is not actually good. Terrible control, thoughtless design, and unimpressive graphics.
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#40 fluffers623
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graphics...... Its the wii for crying out loud. whats awesome about the wii is that u can actually point and shoot with a remote not just sit on ur but and press the r button. this is the only thing out there that can do this. graphics is important, but i think that the wii stands out for itself. you dont need a 600 dollar machine to have fun.
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#41 BunkaOne
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I enjoying playing it, even if I find the sword fighting anoying. It's also true it's glitchy but it can makes if funny.
Bring on Red Steel 2!
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#42 moodyman123
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Ya, it's good, but not amazingly good, I thought the controls were a little WONKY but I had sooo much fun with multiplayer, maybe redsteel2 will have online? I'm gonna get zelda after!!!!
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#43 JesterSage
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The aiming is actually fine. The sword control is okay ifyou swing slowly, like it's a 2lb blade.

The graphic is actually good enough... as long as they take out bloom. do you know how annoying it is when the spot light shine on you and then a couple yakuza kill you in crossfire?!

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#44 cobrax80
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[QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?digital_soul

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

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#45 reggie186
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[QUOTE="digital_soul"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?cobrax80

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

Part of the Gamespot grade factors into account how much fun the reviewer had. I believe it's the "tilt" portion.

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#46 cobrax80
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[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="digital_soul"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?reggie186

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

Part of the Gamespot grade factors into account how much fun the reviewer had. I believe it's the "tilt" portion.

yeah, it's only one person's fun factor though.

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#47 reggie186
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[QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="digital_soul"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?cobrax80

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

Part of the Gamespot grade factors into account how much fun the reviewer had. I believe it's the "tilt" portion.

yeah, it's only one person's fun factor though.

Of course it is. Reviews aren't EVERYONE'S opinion on the game, they are just one person's opinion.

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[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="digital_soul"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?reggie186

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

Part of the Gamespot grade factors into account how much fun the reviewer had. I believe it's the "tilt" portion.

yeah, it's only one person's fun factor though.

Of course it is. Reviews aren't EVERYONE'S opinion on the game, they are just one person's opinion.

But there is still a difference to Gamespot reviews because they know their reviews will get feedback and they don't want to damage the site's reputation, in that sense they won't always have a completey honest review.

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[QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="digital_soul"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?cobrax80

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

Part of the Gamespot grade factors into account how much fun the reviewer had. I believe it's the "tilt" portion.

yeah, it's only one person's fun factor though.

Of course it is. Reviews aren't EVERYONE'S opinion on the game, they are just one person's opinion.

But there is still a difference to Gamespot reviews because they know their reviews will get feedback and they don't want to damage the site's reputation, in that sense they won't always have a completey honest review.

So...lying is going to maintain the site's reputation?

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[QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="reggie186"][QUOTE="cobrax80"][QUOTE="digital_soul"][QUOTE="cobrax80"]

[QUOTE="fluffers623"]i dont think redsteel deserved a 5.5. ive beaten the game and found it quite enjoyable, but not spectacular. i think it deserves a 7-7.4. what are ur thoughts?reggie186

I gave it an 8.5 in my review. It basically is fun if you ignore the countless minor problems it has. You shouldn't put your expectations too high when you play, it is a really fun game, Ubisoft just needed more time. I hope the sequel will give them enough time to show us how red steel was supposed to be.

Thank god Gamespot have more sense than to rate games with countless bugs that you need to have low expectations to enjoy as high as 8.5 .

you do realize that when gamespot rates games they have to look for what most people would say, so they could have loved it but they wouldn't be allowed to ignore the bugs and such, i have the privilege to do that since my review is my personal opinion and i don't rate it knowing that the whole gaming community on this site has to find my review important enough to make a purchasing decision.

Part of the Gamespot grade factors into account how much fun the reviewer had. I believe it's the "tilt" portion.

yeah, it's only one person's fun factor though.

Of course it is. Reviews aren't EVERYONE'S opinion on the game, they are just one person's opinion.

But there is still a difference to Gamespot reviews because they know their reviews will get feedback and they don't want to damage the site's reputation, in that sense they won't always have a completey honest review.

So...lying is going to maintain the site's reputation?

it's not about flat-out lying, What i mean is they might foucs on good parts of the game more so that they don't get flamed for a lower score or vice versa, and Stuff like that.