Sega Blames Wii Audience for Madworlds Sales!

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#101 dovberg
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ok then has SEGA PUBLISHED anything good for the wii?

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#102 LastRambo341
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ok then has SEGA PUBLISHED anything good for the wii?

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Sonic Unleashed (a 7 which is good), Sega all stars racing, The Conduit, HOTD OK, Madworld etc.
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#103 LastRambo341
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[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="lazyathew"] Yes they do.... They were the creators of Sonic the hedgehog, used to be Nintendos biggest rival, till they lost and stopped making systems. Now they are a third party puplisher.

* If they advertise that game and adds some quality into it, then people will buy it * Lol, you think I don't know Sega. SEGA PUBLISHES Sonic games, SONIC TEAM DEVELOPS Sonic games

Sonic team is part of Sega...

No, SEGA OWNS them
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#104 ps2snesgod
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gotta say the crap that sega and capcom are trying to pull with there hardcore gamers desert the wii is bull. i am unlike many gamers in that i really enjoy rail shooters and stylish beat em ups however most gamers don't even know of these titles and even if they did they wouldn't be interested. people bought resident evil umbrella chronicles because of the brand and the hope that resident evil 5 would get ported instead we get dark side chronicles. people didn't buy madworld because it was short very repetitive zero color and a gore fest. seriously capcom and sega do some market research and stop sending niche games out to die with bloated expectations
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#105 homegirl2180
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Heck, the game's been around $10 on Amazon for monthsMadmangamer364

This is where I stopped reading and immediately checked that. MadWorld always looked enjoyable, but its supposed brevity always made buying it seem like an unfair deal (as I play a high regard on longevity). However, I'd be willing to pay almost $8 (includes shipping) for 6 supposedly very great hours. So yes, I did order it. Thank you, though I doubt that was your intention.

As to what he said, he was mostly right. Those kinds of games really don't do well on the Wii. Of course, most non-Nintendo games don't do well on the Wii, but what can you do? The snowball that started rolling from Pokemon Red & Blue back in the 90's has never halted, despite how much Nintendo claims they're trying to shake the image.

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#106 DraugenCP
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MadWorld is a great game, but it was obvious from the start that a game with such an obscure presentation was only gonna appeal to a select crowd of people. Black-and-white presentation, over-the-top violence, arcade-like gameplay and a lot of dark humour: that's not 'big crowd' kind of stuff. Passing it off as 'a Wii audience thing' is simplified and disrespectful towards both the Wii audience in general and the people who did buy and enjoy it.

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#107 almossbb
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this game would sell as horrible on the PS3 and 360. I guess they dont realize that their game wasnt that good at all.

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#108 Pichoro
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MadWorld is a great game, but it was obvious from the start that a game with such an obscure presentation was only gonna appeal to a select crowd of people. Black-and-white presentation, over-the-top violence, arcade-like gameplay and a lot of dark humour: that's not 'big crowd' kind of stuff. Passing it off as 'a Wii audience thing' is simplified and disrespectful towards both the Wii audience in general and the people who did buy and enjoy it.

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Personally, I feel like Madworld was missing its audience. The game is far too bloody and violent for minors, and yet, the humor was so junior high school that it was targeted at that age. A vomit joke? Really? I played the first level, and put it down. One of very few games I own that I wish I hadn't bought. Even for $10. It was also tiresome, and boring. When I got to the end of the first level, the idea of playing another level was depressing.
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#109 Madmangamer364
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[QUOTE="Madmangamer364"] Heck, the game's been around $10 on Amazon for monthshomegirl2180

This is where I stopped reading and immediately checked that. MadWorld always looked enjoyable, but its supposed brevity always made buying it seem like an unfair deal (as I play a high regard on longevity). However, I'd be willing to pay almost $8 (includes shipping) for 6 supposedly very great hours. So yes, I did order it. Thank you, though I doubt that was your intention.

As to what he said, he was mostly right. Those kinds of games really don't do well on the Wii. Of course, most non-Nintendo games don't do well on the Wii, but what can you do? The snowball that started rolling from Pokemon Red & Blue back in the 90's has never halted, despite how much Nintendo claims they're trying to shake the image.

Haha, more power to you for picking up the game. I have nothing against you doing so, and I hope you enjoy it. I just can't bring myself to do the same, that's all. :P

Now in regards to what sells on the Wii and what doesn't, of course there are certain games that are going to be better fits for the console than others. Obviously, Nintendo's own games are usually the selling points behind a Nintendo system these days, and games hoping to be successful have to be able to fit a certain mold in order to reach out. Still, while that mold itself may be different on the Wii than the other consoles, it still follows a very similar principle. Trying to effectively sell a game like Madworld on the Wii would be like trying to sell a Care Bears game on the Xbox 360; chances are that it's not going to work very well. Still, the biggest thing about it all is that you're not going to see a publisher pointing fingers and making excuses about why it didn't sell with the latter because publishers aren't trying such stunts with the other consoles period, much less expecting huge sales out of them.

Nintendo's always been perceived as the family-friendly company in the industry. That's what it hangs its hat on and does best, and the Wii has executed on the philosophy the best out of Nintendo's home console efforts to date. At this very moment, it's not like this image is one that Nintendo should be in a hurry to get rid of. Still, that doesn't mean that third parties can't be successful, as they have been in the past. They just should look for ideas that better fits the mold of the Wii, as opposed to making "Mature" games for the sake them being there.

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#110 Kojo222
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[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

MadWorld is a great game, but it was obvious from the start that a game with such an obscure presentation was only gonna appeal to a select crowd of people. Black-and-white presentation, over-the-top violence, arcade-like gameplay and a lot of dark humour: that's not 'big crowd' kind of stuff. Passing it off as 'a Wii audience thing' is simplified and disrespectful towards both the Wii audience in general and the people who did buy and enjoy it.

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Personally, I feel like Madworld was missing its audience. The game is far too bloody and violent for minors, and yet, the humor was so junior high school that it was targeted at that age. A vomit joke? Really? I played the first level, and put it down. One of very few games I own that I wish I hadn't bought. Even for $10. It was also tiresome, and boring. When I got to the end of the first level, the idea of playing another level was depressing.

Agreed. I finally gave it a chance, and I guess it gets a few points for style, but the game really isn't that hot. Unless you're a kid who thinks blood in a video game is the height of coolness, I can't see any appeal to this game. Sure, it worked for Mortal Kombat when it first showed up, but that was a LONG time ago.
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#111 meluvulongtime8
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How about they make a good hardcore game on the Wii first then complain about it having poor sales. Madworld is style over substance to me. These companies that make a so called hardcore title need to actually make one that's good and not just half @ssed. On rail shooters don't count either.

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#112 nintendoboy16
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[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

Obviously they are going to blame the wii audiance. What they said is right, Wii owners are generally less interested in M games. Why do people always make a big deal about this? I saw something like this somewhere when Suda said the same thing about No More Heroes. They don't sell as well on Wii because most Wii owners aren't as interested, it's true, what's the big deal??

LastRambo341

COD3, MWR, WaW, RE4 and RE UC are rated M and they sold well

CoD 3 was rated T for Teen. Just to let you know.

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#113 roxlimn
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How about they make a good hardcore game on the Wii first then complain about it having poor sales. Madworld is style over substance to me. These companies that make a so called hardcore title need to actually make one that's good and not just half @ssed. On rail shooters don't count either.

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Vanillaware made Muramasa for the Wii, and that's a pretty hardcore brawler game, seeing as most of the value of it comes from repeat runs for various accomplishments - usually speed runs or somesuch. It sold better than their previous effort - Odin Sphere on the PS2, despite the Wii having smaller overall hardwares sales. Monster Hunter Tri by Capcom sold enormously well in its traditional bailiwick in Japan. And of course, Nintendo games of every stripe normally sell well. It isn't that the market isn't there. The problem is that Wii games get no funding - third parties don't want to support the Wii. Third parties have never wanted to support NIntendo systems. There's a longstanding animosity between third parties and Nintendo.

How about they make a good hardcore game on the Wii first then complain about it having poor sales. Madworld is style over substance to me. These companies that make a so called hardcore title need to actually make one that's good and not just half @ssed. On rail shooters don't count either.

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#114 AfterBurnerZ
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Well who else would you blame? :?

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#115 Darth-Samus
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Obviously they are going to blame the wii audiance. What they said is right, Wii owners are generally less interested in M games. Why do people always make a big deal about this? I saw something like this somewhere when Suda said the same thing about No More Heroes. They don't sell as well on Wii because most Wii owners aren't as interested, it's true, what's the big deal??

lazyathew

Well it is a big deal to those of us that love the Wii and want to play mature games on it.

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#116 da_chub
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Madworld isnt a bad game. I really enjoyed it, it was fun with good controls and gameplay. I liked the style but it hurt my eyes if i played to long. The problem is that 3rd parties dont advertise at all and nintendo is a family name, so peole dont associate nintendo with Mature games, even though some of Wii's niche games are just as good as games on other systems...(muramusa, madworld, NMH, Little Kings Story, Boy and his blob are a few)...no one plays/buys them because they dont know about them. and i know you can pick apart a game like madworld and find all its flaws like its being short, but replay it. I would rather have a short game with a fun story that i can beat in a couple of days rather then having a game that is needlessly long. The gameplay is all the same...
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#117 roxlimn
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[QUOTE="lazyathew"]

Obviously they are going to blame the wii audiance. What they said is right, Wii owners are generally less interested in M games. Why do people always make a big deal about this? I saw something like this somewhere when Suda said the same thing about No More Heroes. They don't sell as well on Wii because most Wii owners aren't as interested, it's true, what's the big deal??

Darth-Samus

Well it is a big deal to those of us that love the Wii and want to play mature games on it.

Why would anyone want to play games rated "M" by the ESRB, because of the rating? These ratings are usually based on what ESRB morality preaches is wrong for kids to view. I am not a kid. I have long since abandoned any notion that having "M" in the rating is anything magical or desirable. I play games and consume media in spite of an M rating, not because of it. Some stories and concepts only work using things children shouldn't see, but I don't consider such content essential. I can totally do without them in my videogaming, as long as the gaming is good.