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First of all Nintendo makes games with a more cartoon effect, they pretty much always have.
second good games aren't made on graphics alone and never will be.
Third the real sin of Nintend right now is that they keep bombarding the machine with kids and adult games.
(which are rubbish, but part of nintendos plan which is why its selling more then other consoles)
Fourth Nintendo annouced the Wii was going HD like next year so eventually it won't really matter who has the best graphics.
Lastly Nintendo is the only company that can make a console that doesn't break every year.
The Wii is not going HD anytime soon. It is just a rumor, a stupid on at that. A next Nintendo console won't come until 2011/2012.First of all Nintendo makes games with a more cartoon effect, they pretty much always have.
second good games aren't made on graphics alone and never will be.
Third the real sin of Nintend right now is that they keep bombarding the machine with kids and adult games.
(which are rubbish, but part of nintendos plan which is why its selling more then other consoles)
Fourth Nintendo annouced the Wii was going HD like next year so eventually it won't really matter who has the best graphics.
Lastly Nintendo is the only company that can make a console that doesn't break every year.
stike22
[QUOTE="stike22"]The Wii is not going HD anytime soon. It is just a rumor, a stupid on at that. A next Nintendo console won't come until 2011/2012.exactly !First of all Nintendo makes games with a more cartoon effect, they pretty much always have.
second good games aren't made on graphics alone and never will be.
Third the real sin of Nintend right now is that they keep bombarding the machine with kids and adult games.
(which are rubbish, but part of nintendos plan which is why its selling more then other consoles)
Fourth Nintendo annouced the Wii was going HD like next year so eventually it won't really matter who has the best graphics.
Lastly Nintendo is the only company that can make a console that doesn't break every year.
SMR-Venom
Right! Lets clear something up here!
1. It isnt about graphics its about gameplay and replay value
2. The Wii is cheap and probley one of the most best and most damn unquine console out yet!
3. Playstation is getting boring, you'll have like PlayStation 666, ahhh! Satan's console!
4. Nintendo cares about its customers!
5. I get motion sickness from too graphically great games
However, yes the Graphics aint the best, but thats not to do with the console, the developers slack off with graphics on Nintendo consoles for some reason and also WHY IS THIS DAMN GAME INDUSTRY ABOUT GRAPHICS AND NOT GAMEPLAY!!! Nuff said, you shouldn't look for graphics all the time, you should look for gameplay and your money's worth! And hey i still play games from 1993 and im 13! Games like Syndicate and Syndicate: Wars! So please think about the game's gameplay and was-it-worth-my-money instead of graphically great games, not all games with the best graphics are best, one example is HALO3, why? Cause its Halo 2 with a few weapons added and better graphics! End of the day i love my Nintendo consoles my DS And Wii and i got my money's worth! Well over my money's worth! Nintendo are too generous! Its like they gave me £70 for buying their consoles!
[QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"]..........graphics still look last gen to mePices*sigh*, here we go again....graphics have nothing to do with gen erm... i beg to differ... lets go through some generations, shall we? NES to SNES to N64 to Gamecube to Wii all upgraded graphics each Generation, the only difference is is that the gamecube to wii transition was not a noticeable change. PS1 to PS2 to PS3, all significant graphics changes each gen X-box to 360, significant graphics change each gen each generation is defined moreso by the graphical capacity of the system. even the handheld market. GB to GBC to GBA to DS, there have always been graphical enhancements
[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"]We all know the Wii can produce Xbox level graphics. P.S. I am so freaking hyped for Sky Crawlers.clicketyclickIt's not coming to the West. Noooooooooo!!!
a rumor i>? no its not,
wii 2 was in production since wii l a u nched just like other consoles, its already 3 years,
goin on 4 so its 5 year is next year,
so no its 2010 i say when wii 2 comes the 360 and ps3 are likely to do 5 years more,
because they can ,
wii can not not at the level its at,
no one appreicates it,
and yes i do agree,
wii can produce slightly more then xbox visuals ,,
but remember this
1 the wii was already promising these features-online play , vc and motion sensing nintendo never said it was gonna blow the competition away, nor did sony when they released ps1/2
so its all the same here,
2 the graphics of the other 2 systems arent that much of a big deal, sure some look so amazing but over half look like they jus t rushed them o ut,
look at pd0 ridge racer 6 halo 3 resistance gt5 , nfs series these games and more look like slightly updated xbox games lol,
mgs4 pgr series ,quantum of solace-360/ps3 wwe or your sports titles are all ive seen so far with the o h so realistic feel to them or look
condemend is ok , its not as polished , as say like timesplitters 3 was when running on last gen hardware
burnout paradise, also test drive unlimited, those have power, /graphics
but that dont mean the games good now does it,
sure you can say it helps b ut ever since ps3/360;/wii , games have become smaller and smaller, i laughed at almost any ps3 360 game i played in the fps genre, w hy because i remember ps2 n64 xbox and gc etc havin mu c hlonger or funner games,
and also they reward you,
now adays out side wiim and a few 360/ps3 games, they dont award you nothing new for any of its modes, so far i only seen wwe , and rainbow six series reward you with new stuff,
or guitar hero but thats not an actual game lol,
games like quantum of solace 007
halo 3
prey etc etc they dont reward you any unlockables for the game ,
all they do is offer achievments, lol, or trophies(ps3) or wii messages-example=wii sports
Fourth Nintendo annouced the Wii was going HD like next year so eventually it won't really matter who has the best graphics.stike22
People like you shouldn't post.
Who says Wii isn't going HD? Even if it was just a rumor Nintendo can't stay at 480p max for much longer. It'd be dumb of them not to upgrade to 1080p by the next console iteration. Even if they use cheaper material, HD technology wouldn't be that expensive to add to a console by 2010/2011 so why wouldn't they include it. Nintendo moved from 8-bit to 16 bit to 32-bit to 64-bit to 128-bit (not sure what the Wii is) and in order to create better looking content that matches the times then they MUST go HD by 2011. It'd be dumb of them not to at this point in time. I don't really care that much about graphics but there will be a much higher demand for HD content by 2011 than there was in 2006 when the Wii first came out. I'll probably have an HD 1080p TV by then as well. HD Wii IS coming.livinitup01
Nintendo is eventually going to release a HD console, based on the Wii brand or not, but the Wii is staying as it is. Sales tell us the Wii can stay in 480p for a damn long time.
excellent by what standards? :?[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="J_Ford"]Whose complaining?, the Wii has excellent graphics. Gameplay is what matters most though.J_Ford
Um, mine? Lol :P Graphic's don't have to be in HD for games to be great.
never said that. just that when wii has games that look like early ps2 games, we got a problem :?[QUOTE="J_Ford"][QUOTE="Sonick54"] excellent by what standards? :?Sonick54
Um, mine? Lol :P Graphic's don't have to be in HD for games to be great.
never said that. just that when wii has games that look like early ps2 games, we got a problem :?Ya, the problem is that the Wii can do much better graphics than what we're getting. It's almost as if devs looked at the wii, saw it couldn't do HD, and then just didn't try at all.
[QUOTE="J_Ford"][QUOTE="Sonick54"] excellent by what standards? :?Sonick54
Um, mine? Lol :P Graphic's don't have to be in HD for games to be great.
never said that. just that when wii has games that look like early ps2 games, we got a problem :? No you have got a problem! Are you comparing the likes of Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl to this?Who says Wii isn't going HD? Even if it was just a rumor Nintendo can't stay at 480p max for much longer. It'd be dumb of them not to upgrade to 1080p by the next console iteration. Even if they use cheaper material, HD technology wouldn't be that expensive to add to a console by 2010/2011 so why wouldn't they include it. Nintendo moved from 8-bit to 16 bit to 32-bit to 64-bit to 128-bit (not sure what the Wii is) and in order to create better looking content that matches the times then they MUST go HD by 2011. It'd be dumb of them not to at this point in time. I don't really care that much about graphics but there will be a much higher demand for HD content by 2011 than there was in 2006 when the Wii first came out. I'll probably have an HD 1080p TV by then as well. HD Wii IS coming.livinitup01
I do agree with this message. I would say Nintendo didn't add HD capabilities, since they aren't profitable or generalized enough. For the next gen (around 2011-2012), HD CAN be considered mandatory in the developed world. Even so, why do we need so many graphic improvements by this time!? Console videogame graphics are pretty much good enough by now, so there isn't much to improve on that line yet (holographic displays are still much underdeveloped, 3D feeling on 3D games is already possible and profitabl, only not desirable for most people.
About the bit architectures, this is how it's outlined:
8-bit (NES, Game Boy)
16-Bit (SNES, Game Boy Color)
32-bit (GameBoy Advance, Virtual Boy)
64-bit (N64, Nintendo DS)
128-bit (GameCube, Wii)
Whose complaining?, the Wii has excellent graphics. Gameplay is what matters most though.J_FordThey BOTH matter! And yes, the Wii has some decent graphics, but really nothing that couldn't have been done 8 years ago.
[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="J_Ford"]never said that. just that when wii has games that look like early ps2 games, we got a problem :? No you have got a problem! Are you comparing the likes of Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl to this?Um, mine? Lol :P Graphic's don't have to be in HD for games to be great.
SMR-Venom
Did he say SMG and MP3? Those aren't the only Wii games in existence, you know.
Gosh, to be taken out of context and have words put in your mouth by two different people in a single thread... poor Sonick has the worst luck. :(
Nintendo informed us on Day 1 that the Nintendo Revolution (before it was called the Wii) was not going to focus on graphics but rather on new ways to play videogames. The rest is history, and all the haters are upset.
Nintendo Wii has the best player-game interaction than any other console (for example, shooters are controlled with point-and-shoot controls, which emulate real shooting unlike the dual-analog stuff and even the keyboard-mouse stuff). And then you have Wii Sports where you swing your arm to swing a tennis racket or swing a bat or roll a bowling ball. So in a sense, Nintendo Wii is more realistic than the other consoles. The motion controls may not be perfect 1:1, but it will be in the future, and the other consoles aren't even close to that.
If all you care about is graphics, watch a movie. Games are defined by player involvement. If you ask people what the greatest games of all time are, they'll give you answers like PacMan, Tetris, Pong, and other older games that are not found on today's graphically-enhanced consoles.
If what I'm saying doesn't make sense, then you're probably confused at why Nintendo Wii is outselling the competition, and it's driving you crazy.
judging from your post, you'd rather accept mediocre lazyness that devs give us? You're perfectly content with some wii games looking like it just came out on the gamecube? Stop making excuses. what would you rather have? good gameplay AND good graphics or just one of them? Stop acting like neither can coexist with each because they certainly can. If you believe wii is selling on gameplay alone then i'm sorry but you do not understand business. Wii is selling due it's heavily marketed control scheme and it's uncanny power to attract the biggest demographic gaming has. Casuals. I know where not in system wars, but if you would take a quick look at most of the reviews GS offers for wii games, you'd notice they clearly aren't that high. Making your point about gameplay being all that matters pretty moot. Wii is capable of having both. unfortunately, it's mostly nintendo and some third party devs who realize that. Thankfully, 2009 seems to be shaping up.Nintendo informed us on Day 1 that the Nintendo Revolution (before it was called the Wii) was not going to focus on graphics but rather on new ways to play videogames. The rest is history, and all the haters are upset.
Nintendo Wii has the best player-game interaction than any other console (for example, shooters are controlled with point-and-shoot controls, which emulate real shooting unlike the dual-analog stuff and even the keyboard-mouse stuff). And then you have Wii Sports where you swing your arm to swing a tennis racket or swing a bat or roll a bowling ball. So in a sense, Nintendo Wii is more realistic than the other consoles. The motion controls may not be perfect 1:1, but it will be in the future, and the other consoles aren't even close to that.
If all you care about is graphics, watch a movie. Games are defined by player involvement. If you ask people what the greatest games of all time are, they'll give you answers like PacMan, Tetris, Pong, and other older games that are not found on today's graphically-enhanced consoles.
If what I'm saying doesn't make sense, then you're probably confused at why Nintendo Wii is outselling the competition, and it's driving you crazy.
DS_Lightning21
LOL, it's hard to take you seriously. Graphics are a big part of a game, and frankly, the Wii's motion controls, other than driving and shooting games, aren't that good. Pong being one of the greatest games?!?! NO! Great games are games like GTA III or Zelda. These games used graphics are a huge part of the game, such as Liberty City's real city where you could go anywhere and do anything, or Zelda's cel shaded graphics. Trust me, graphics are just as important as controls, and so is online play. I clearly think you are missing the point of this thread.Nintendo informed us on Day 1 that the Nintendo Revolution (before it was called the Wii) was not going to focus on graphics but rather on new ways to play videogames. The rest is history, and all the haters are upset.
Nintendo Wii has the best player-game interaction than any other console (for example, shooters are controlled with point-and-shoot controls, which emulate real shooting unlike the dual-analog stuff and even the keyboard-mouse stuff). And then you have Wii Sports where you swing your arm to swing a tennis racket or swing a bat or roll a bowling ball. So in a sense, Nintendo Wii is more realistic than the other consoles. The motion controls may not be perfect 1:1, but it will be in the future, and the other consoles aren't even close to that.
If all you care about is graphics, watch a movie. Games are defined by player involvement. If you ask people what the greatest games of all time are, they'll give you answers like PacMan, Tetris, Pong, and other older games that are not found on today's graphically-enhanced consoles.
If what I'm saying doesn't make sense, then you're probably confused at why Nintendo Wii is outselling the competition, and it's driving you crazy.
DS_Lightning21
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