Stop complaining about graphic's!! and look.......

@ smr-venom

again,when did i say that? :?. No where in my post did i say "all wii games look like ps2 games"

Sonick54

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="Sonick54"] never said that. just that when wii has games that look like early ps2 games, we got a problem :?clicketyclick

Did he say SMG and MP3? Those aren't the only Wii games in existence, you know.

Gosh, to be taken out of context and have words put in your mouth by two different people in a single thread... poor Sonick has the worst luck. :(

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] No you have got a problem! Are you comparing the likes of Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy and Brawl to this?SMR-Venom

Did he say SMG and MP3? Those aren't the only Wii games in existence, you know.

Gosh, to be taken out of context and have words put in your mouth by two different people in a single thread... poor Sonick has the worst luck. :(

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="clicketyclick"]

Did he say SMG and MP3? Those aren't the only Wii games in existence, you know.

Gosh, to be taken out of context and have words put in your mouth by two different people in a single thread... poor Sonick has the worst luck. :(

clicketyclick

Way too help me out there dude :D :PSonick54

lol, I'm a little self-interested there cuz I agree with you. ;)

Oh, and SMR, I don't think you're rude. I just think you missed the point of what was being said. :)

I vote Sonik/Clicket 09!!!

I agree with you guys and the points you are trying to make!

While gameplay and controls are VERY important, SO are graphics!!!

iceldc

Did he say SMG and MP3? Those aren't the only Wii games in existence, you know.

Gosh, to be taken out of context and have words put in your mouth by two different people in a single thread... poor Sonick has the worst luck. :(

I normally dont care about graphics, but what... [QUOTE="iceldc"]freek666

[QUOTE="freek666"]I normally dont care about graphics, but what... [QUOTE="iceldc"]SMR-Venom

[QUOTE="SMR-Venom"][QUOTE="freek666"] the **** is this piece of ****?freek666

^ Oh man, thats pretty bad, lol. For this gen those graphics are waaaaaaaaay down their in the trash can, in motion or not!

I have a ps3 as well as a wii, personaly i love the HD ect graphics, its true that great graphics dont make a bad game great but thay do make a good game better. i mean you spend 100% of the time your playing the game LOOKING at the game so IMHO its a big deal. at least to me it is. how ever as far as the Wii goes i am perfectly happy when the games look like SMG and MP3. neather game comes even close to something like MGS4 but hay thats ok. but when games look no better or in alot ofcases worse than GC thats when i get upset lol. but it SEEMS that devs are starting to do better work. deadly creatures,conduite,Murasuma the demon blade"wich looks GREAT". So for me as long as the devs try and do some cool thing then im happy. but when games lioke AC comes out and looks pretty much the same as the GC AC .....well that makes me sad :p.

Nintendo informed us on Day 1 that the Nintendo Revolution (before it was called the Wii) was not going to focus on graphics but rather on new ways to play videogames. The rest is history, and all the haters are upset.

Nintendo Wii has the best player-game interaction than any other console (for example, shooters are controlled with point-and-shoot controls, which emulate real shooting unlike the dual-analog stuff and even the keyboard-mouse stuff). And then you have Wii Sports where you swing your arm to swing a tennis racket or swing a bat or roll a bowling ball. So in a sense, Nintendo Wii is more realistic than the other consoles. The motion controls may not be perfect 1:1, but it will be in the future, and the other consoles aren't even close to that.

If all you care about is graphics, watch a movie. Games are defined by player involvement. If you ask people what the greatest games of all time are, they'll give you answers like PacMan, Tetris, Pong, and other older games that are not found on today's graphically-enhanced consoles.

If what I'm saying doesn't make sense, then you're probably confused at why Nintendo Wii is outselling the competition, and it's driving you crazy.

DS_Lightning21

..........graphics still look last gen to meBrooklynHotBoy

nope not at all. wiis graphics look better then any of the last gen consoles graphics. i played god of war 2 yesterday and it looks like a joke compared to zelda which was on the gamecube too lol

and halo 2 is basicly the xbox best looking title. and it looks far worse then the conduit.

so the wii is basicly a 2.5 generation system while xbox360 and ps3 are 3.0

but the whole console is far better then the ps3 or xbox360 ever will be :P

Look at it this way. Factor 5 made their first HD game. It flopped. They went under. Free Radical - same story. I think we'll see the smaller third parties start to support Wii this year. In this economic climate nobody wants to take risks and Wii is a pretty safe bet. Biggest install base. Good attatch rate. Lowest development costs. I think we'll see devs push the system in 2009 and 2010.

[QUOTE="link027"]This should be in System WarsSonick54

Some of those screenshots look good while others not so much.I think you should've gotten some better screenshots for some of these games.Michael0134567

[QUOTE="Sonick54"][QUOTE="link027"]This should be in System Warslink027

Again, my problem is NOT the graphics, but the fact that the lack of graphics pretty much kills the good 3rd party support. We usually get skipped of so many great games for the OBVIOUS reason. And those we get, are usually made for the PSP as well (like MoH Heroes 2) and graphics in those cases are even worst than they should look like.gmgo

[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="BrooklynHotBoy"]..........graphics still look last gen to megarrett_duffman

[QUOTE="freek666"][QUOTE="SMR-Venom"] Looks much, much better than this in motion, trust me lol.kenakuma

^ Oh man, thats pretty bad, lol. For this gen those graphics are waaaaaaaaay down their in the trash can, in motion or not!

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Pices"] *sigh*, here we go again....graphics have nothing to do with genPices

Ok...now he said that graphics look last gen, ok so? the gameplay matters! Games like Too Human, Sonic Unleashed (Ps3 or 360), Haze, Alone In The Dark(ps3 or 360), Legendary etc... had "next-gen" graphics but the gameplay ruined the game. In other words, graphics don't matter, if you were a true gamer, you would know thatPices

And yet most great games have both.The games you listed for having "next-gen" graphics aren't the most visually appealing games out there,and they aren't exactly considered "great" by the general consensus.And not much prevented those games from having great gameplay except for the effort of the developers; they could very well have made the game with great graphics and great gameplay.And for the point you were trying to prove (as much as I disagree with it),a better example would have been Lair.And don't even start with this "true gamer" garbage.:|

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Pices"] *sigh*, here we go again....graphics have nothing to do with genPices

??? Pices your response has nothing to do with what Garret is saying!

Pices, YOU said that "graphics have NOTHING to do with gen", and then Garret explained to you that graphics DO reflect a gen of games by listing a ton of examples of how graphics evolve with every gen proving your previous statement wrong! Than you procede to talk about how gameplay matters more than graphics which has nothing to do with wether or not graphics are related to gen!

And as any TRUE gamer will tell you graphics DO matter, if they didn't we would still be playing 8-bit games on are TV's and games like Ocarina of Time would not exist!

[QUOTE="garrett_duffman"][QUOTE="Pices"] *sigh*, here we go again....graphics have nothing to do with genPices

and like what akenakuma just told you, you completely missed the other poster's point about graphics improving each gen.

@vgobsesser , what I meant is that graphics don't have to be perfect in order for the game to be good. I'm not saying that horrible graphics with good gameplay make a good game. The graphics just have to be good, but not important when it comes to gaming.Pices

Not important?The graphics are your main means of interacting and playing with the game.They're kind of important.:|

@vgobsesser , what I meant is that graphics don't have to be perfect in order for the game to be good. I'm not saying that horrible graphics with good gameplay make a good game. The graphics just have to be good, but not important when it comes to gaming. @kenakuma, that what was my mistake about next-gen graphics...but the point is that games like OoT makes you realize that graphics don't matter much as gameplay. Graphics have to be good, but not perfect. Sonic unleashed was horrible on ps3/360 even though it had amazing graphics....on the ps2/wii, the graphics were great but not as great on ps3/360. Yet, the ps2/wii got positive scores. @Sonick, the Wii has bad and good games like all systems. BUT, it has a LOT of great games, graphic-wise or not. I can list you a bunch of great games that are available now and 50 games for the future to counter your statement of saying that the Wii has a weak number of good games.Pices

No one is debating that gameplay is more important than graphics! What people are debating is your statement that "graphics don't matter" which is very untrue, what you should have said is "graphics don't matter as much as gameplay" because graphics definetly DO matter to a degree!

As for what Soncik is saying;

The Wii's game library IS weakened by its graphical capabilities! Because of the Wii's lack of power it's library is lacking some of the greatest multiplat games of this gen like Dead Space, Mirror's Edge, Resident Evil 5, Call of Duty 4, Street Fighter 4, GTA 5, Bioshock, ect. The wii gets passed over by 3rd party developers on A LOT of BIG games simply because it can't handle them, and as a result, gameplay IS effected because the games AREN'T THEIR!

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]Some of those screenshots look good while others not so much.I think you should've gotten some better screenshots for some of these games.iceldc