The Grinder Trailer

Trailer from IGN

Spiffy.

Whoever made that trailer likes grainy/old film filters too much :? I don't get why they'd do that - because the footage was kind of cool looking besides that.Haziqonfire

I was curious about that too.

Awesomely awesome! I love the voice, the style, the premise, EVERYTHING! Were art thou now, haters?

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Whoever made that trailer likes grainy/old film filters too much :? I don't get why they'd do that - because the footage was kind of cool looking besides that.clicketyclick

Yeah, I could see them going for that.

Though I'd think the footage would've looked better without it :P

Were art though now, haters?Head_of_games

Does someone count as a hater if he just isn't interested in it? :P

Whoever made that trailer likes grainy/old film filters too much :? I don't get why they'd do that - because the footage was kind of cool looking besides that.Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"]Whoever made that trailer likes grainy/old film filters too much :? I don't get why they'd do that - because the footage was kind of cool looking besides that.Haziqonfire

Yeah, I could see them going for that.

Though I'd think the footage would've looked better without it :P

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Were art though now, haters?GabuEx

Does someone count as a hater if he just isn't interested in it? :P

Looks pretty cool, though I hope there's a littel more to it than just mindless spraying.

This game is butt secks. I can't wait.OreoMilkshake

Epic Win right there! It's pure action and pure co-op online and off. I really look forward to this!

No, but they count as a Crazy. :PHead_of_games

Eh, I try to see what other people see in these videos, but I watch all the stuff that HVS comes out with, and it just doesn't really do anything for me. They definitely seem to be technically well-made, but I can't shake the feeling that they're missing the one critical thing for me in games, which is real heart. It's the same reason I've never liked Yngwie Malmsteen as a musician: his technique is incredible, but I just feel nothing at all when listening to it.

On a side note, you changed your avatar AGAIN!Head_of_games

I always do lol.

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]No, but they count as a Crazy. :PGabuEx

Eh, I try to see what other people see in these videos, but I watch all the stuff that HVS comes out with, and it just doesn't really do anything for me. They definitely seem to be technically well-made, but I can't shake the feeling that they're missing the one critical thing for me in games, which is real heart. It's the same reason I've never liked Yngwie Malmsteen as a musician: his technique is incredible, but I just feel nothing at all when listening to it.

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]No, but they count as a Crazy. :PGabuEx

Eh, I try to see what other people see in these videos, but I watch all the stuff that HVS comes out with, and it just doesn't really do anything for me. They definitely seem to be technically well-made, but I can't shake the feeling that they're missing the one critical thing for me in games, which is real heart. It's the same reason I've never liked Yngwie Malmsteen as a musician: his technique is incredible, but I just feel nothing at all when listening to it.

I think you justlike Japanese gamesmuch more thanWestern games (I'm the complete opposite).

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]No, but they count as a Crazy. :PGabuEx

Eh, I try to see what other people see in these videos, but I watch all the stuff that HVS comes out with, and it just doesn't really do anything for me. They definitely seem to be technically well-made, but I can't shake the feeling that they're missing the one critical thing for me in games, which is real heart. It's the same reason I've never liked Yngwie Malmsteen as a musician: his technique is incredible, but I just feel nothing at all when listening to it.

Awesomely awesome! I love the voice, the style, the premise, EVERYTHING! Were art thou now, haters?

Head_of_games

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Were art though now, haters?GabuEx

Does someone count as a hater if he just isn't interested in it? :P

well no lol! i think (not reading this full thread yet)haters are when they come and say OMG garbage ,crap, sucks, this looks like n64, my pc in 1985 had better graphics, etc etc.Posts quake 3 picture and says look !intro94

And that the Apple II could render more enemies on screen.

Look:

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]Were art though now, haters?intro94

Does someone count as a hater if he just isn't interested in it? :P

Great example of trolls^^ LOL

On topic:

My goodness, just let HVS make all the 3rd party Wii games!!!

[QUOTE="intro94"]well no lol! i think (not reading this full thread yet)haters are when they come and say OMG garbage ,crap, sucks, this looks like n64, my pc in 1985 had better graphics, etc etc.Posts quake 3 picture and says look !clicketyclick

And that the Apple II could render more enemies on screen.

Look:

lol who?Sepewrath

This guy. People rave on and on about him because "OMG HE'S SO FAST AND TALENTED" but I just don't get the appeal.

And I have no idea what you mean by heart, I don't think too many devs sweat blood and tears for thier games. They just try to make them as fun to play as possible and thats what games are for. I think people put too much stock in videogames as an art form when they are simply a method of entertainment. Some transcend the simple short spurts of fun, and become an experience but not too many pull that off and its kind of unfair to expect them to. I expect HVS to make a couple perhaps with alot of work, a trifector of solid fun titles and thats all I expect.Sepewrath

The problem I have with all of HVS' games is that they always feel like HVS is going "look what we can do!" Rather than going "here is this awesome idea for a game, now let's figure out what technologies we need to make it happen", it feels like they're going "here are the technologies we want to showcase, now let's figure out a game can we build in which to do that". Games like Bioshock, Okami, Metroid Prime 3 - those are all examples of games where everything felt very, very purposeful to me, in which everything was chosen to achieve the core idea of the game, in which the technologies and such like were all a means to that ultimate end, rather than the intended end itself. As a result, I can't shake the feeling that HVS' games, at least what we've seen of them thus far, seem ultimately more akin to extremely glorified, polished, and large tech demos or proofs of concept - ones that may provide ample entertainment even as they are, but ones nonetheless.

If other people find exactly what they're looking for in their games, all the more power to them, but I just don't see that spark of greatness present in what I've seen thus far. Maybe I'll change my tune when I get to play the game and get sucked right in, but right now, that's all I can really say. I mean, I'm sure they'll be enjoyable games in their own right, but as time goes on, I just can't dispel that nagging thought in the back of my head that nothing yet has truly made me sat up and take notice and think, "wow, this really looks like something special".

[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]No, but they count as a Crazy. :Pclicketyclick

Eh, I try to see what other people see in these videos, but I watch all the stuff that HVS comes out with, and it just doesn't really do anything for me. They definitely seem to be technically well-made, but I can't shake the feeling that they're missing the one critical thing for me in games, which is real heart. It's the same reason I've never liked Yngwie Malmsteen as a musician: his technique is incredible, but I just feel nothing at all when listening to it.

Call of Duty 4 was another FPS I felt had a good amount of heart. The scene showing the end of Sgt. Jackson's theater particularly struck a chord with me.

But yes, you're probably right - which is undoubtedly why the FPS genre in general usually doesn't appeal to me.

Oh, and I actually kinda agree that Nintendo games tend to have this as well, although some don't. That was one of the primary things I didn't like about Super Mario Galaxy, in fact.

6 > 60Head_of_games

Call of Duty 4 was another FPS I felt had a good amount of heart. The scene showing the end of Sgt. Jackson's theater particularly struck a chord with me.

But yes, you're probably right - which is undoubtedly why the FPS genre in general usually doesn't appeal to me.

Oh, and I actually kinda agree that Nintendo games tend to have this as well, although some don't. That was one of the primary things I didn't like about Super Mario Galaxy, in fact.

GabuEx

[QUOTE="Head_of_games"]6 > 60clicketyclick

left Requiem For a Dream album on while watching the trailer without knowing... was like "wtf they got the copyright for that music!" lol, matched the trialer well, still dont know if the game will be worth it tho, but hope for the best anyway

Remember though: if Dorothy hadn't put her faith in the Tin Man and went along with him down the yellow brick road, he would never have gotten his heart. clicketyclick

Well, those who love what HVS is doing can be Dorothy, and I can be the Johnny-come-lately who agrees to tag along after the adventure is over and the Tin Man has been granted his heart. :P

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]Remember though: if Dorothy hadn't put her faith in the Tin Man and went along with him down the yellow brick road, he would never have gotten his heart. GabuEx

Well, those who love what HVS is doing can be Dorothy, and I can be the Johnny-come-lately who agrees to tag along after the adventure is over and the Tin Man has been granted his heart. :P

That looked interesting and I will definitely keep my eye on this.

Minor characters like that tend to get squashed under flying houses in the opening act. Don't say I didn't warn you.clicketyclick

Hey, I already said I'm coming in right at the end, and nobody dies in the end. :x

personally idk why everyone is so excited if it doesnt look better than that by next holiday season ill be upset the conduit looks better the setting and all. but im intrested and ill probably get it cause im a fan of HVS but im not like ZOMG ITS INCREDIBLE

The problem I have with all of HVS' games is that they always feel like HVS is going "look what we can do!" Rather than going "here is this awesome idea for a game, now let's figure out what technologies we need to make it happen", it feels like they're going "here are the technologies we want to showcase, now let's figure out a game can we build in which to do that". Games like Bioshock, Okami, Metroid Prime 3 - those are all examples of games where everything felt very, very purposeful to me, in which everything was chosen to achieve the core idea of the game, in which the technologies and such like were all a means to that ultimate end, rather than the intended end itself. As a result, I can't shake the feeling that HVS' games, at least what we've seen of them thus far, seem ultimately more akin to extremely glorified, polished, and large tech demos or proofs of concept - ones that may provide ample entertainment even as they are, but ones nonetheless.

If other people find exactly what they're looking for in their games, all the more power to them, but I just don't see that spark of greatness present in what I've seen thus far. Maybe I'll change my tune when I get to play the game and get sucked right in, but right now, that's all I can really say. I mean, I'm sure they'll be enjoyable games in their own right, but as time goes on, I just can't dispel that nagging thought in the back of my head that nothing yet has truly made me sat up and take notice and think, "wow, this really looks like something special".GabuEx

I know what your mean, its like I said some games transcend past just simple entertainment, from what I seen of HVS' work so far, they wont make it into that exclusive club. But If I only had interest in games like that well I wouldn't play many games I mean so far the only games that I got that feeling from this gen has been Twilight Princess, Fallout 3, MGS 4, Metroid Prime 3, Bioshock, Call of Duty 4, Mario Galaxy and Assassins Creed. I wouldn't have much of a library if I shopped by those standards. Not saying that you do, but those were games that I was actually sorry to see end. I'm pretty sure I wont have the same feelings for this game or The Conduit but I think I will enjoy them simply as fun games. Your standards are too high Gabu :) stop being such an elitist and give the guys a chance lol.

Liked the music and voiceover for Gladiator's second trailer a lot better, but the gameplay for this just looks sweeeeeet:D

personally idk why everyone is so excited if it doesnt look better than that by next holiday season ill be upset the conduit looks better the setting and all. but im intrested and ill probably get it cause im a fan of HVS but im not like ZOMG ITS INCREDIBLE

boba707

[QUOTE="boba707"]

personally idk why everyone is so excited if it doesnt look better than that by next holiday season ill be upset the conduit looks better the setting and all. but im intrested and ill probably get it cause im a fan of HVS but im not like ZOMG ITS INCREDIBLE

jmizzal

Easy to forget this game already has so much time left in development when it already looks this promising.. 2010 can't come fast enough :(

[QUOTE="clicketyclick"]Minor characters like that tend to get squashed under flying houses in the opening act. Don't say I didn't warn you.GabuEx

Hey, I already said I'm coming in right at the end, and nobody dies in the end. :x

I don't even like FPS games and I thought that looked pretty cool. I guess my love for monsters beat out my dislike for FPS this time, hehe.Michael-Smith

That right there, was nasty! Will keep my eye on this one, specially cause of it's co-op.