The New Official SSBB Thread!!!

Sorry my post is so long, if you choose to only read part of it, read the last paragraph.

Well, first off, I have a question: what are second-party characters? and if you're kind enough to answer, can you give me examples?

Secondly: I have seen a lot about characters, a little about stages, but very little about items so, without further ado, here's list of items I want in SSBB:
1) Net and/or Shovel from Animal Crossing (remember how fun it was to chase people with nets and hit them?)
2) Sports items: there has always been the bat, but other items (such as Peach's smash attacks) would be cool.
3) The Pokeballs should be different:
a) pokeballs holding common pokemon
b) greatballs holding uncommon pokemon
c) ultraballs holding rare pokemon
(they would all look similar, like the super/poison mushrooms, so as not to eliminate the element of suprise!)
4) The pokemon-catching device from pokemon ranger (to shield yourself from pokemon, or to block off oponents)
5) Raccoon Tail (Super Mario 3) or Flying Hat (Super Mario 64), both with the same effect (multiple jumps)
6) A warp pipe (if there is a teleportation device from any other games, this would probably work better.)
cant think of any more...

Thirdly: a menu suggestion: in SSBM you could customize the items. A screen similar to this customizing the pokemon in the pokeballs would be helpful (it would probably be unlockable, like the sound test). I can't count how many times I've tried to have an insane only-pokeballs battle, just to have it ruined by a goldeen or a chansey.

Fourthly: I have but one character suggestion. (for the record, I thought of this myself, although there may have been others who have had similar ideas, i just didn't see them) Your Mii as a playable character!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How frickin' sweet would that be?!?!?!? You could customize his/her moves from a series of different categories, like guns, fire, assorted weapons, electricity, psychic, explosive, etc. Or...the only item he/she held would be the wii-mote, which he/she could use as a sword, bat, gun, or other things with different B moves. (i personally would like a combination of the two, choosing which moves/attacks go with which B + directional button)


Z_unit818

Z_unit,

    items are for noobs. i would not mind if they took items out completely. your other points are interesting. i def think the inclusion of your mii (or all your mii's) would make for some hilarious parties.

    smash bros HAS to find a home on the DS too.

    the portability linked with online play would be so amazing.

SMASH BROS FOR DS! who is with me?
Coleman2886

I wouldn't mind bigger stages like Hyrule but a lot bigger and I hope they still keep Marth in the game. They should have that water-like Mario from Super Sunshine or the water jet-pack as an item.Dragonballz417

Does anyone else think its rediculous for Sonic to be a char? He spins in a circle, alright, great moves there. Put in Knuckles and Tails if any from the Sonic universe, then have Sonic and Shadow be items thatd go back and forth on their platform. Megaman X would be sweet too, but other than those sweet secret moves you get at the end of all of them all he does is shoot. I suppose you could get by with giving him Zero's sabre and those other moves and his shots as a standard B and have him attack like Samus for his A's, but I don't think itd be the same.

As for my personal choices, I really only have 2. One is Geno, which Ive only seen talked about briefly. The move set the guy came up with was pretty good though, props to him. I guess Mallow comes in then by default, but I could go without him. My other choice is probably the only original thing to be said for a long time, but he's always seemed like a good fit to me: Jack (The Harvest Moon Guy). That would be his full name too, parentheses and all. Jack cause I heard somewhere one of the mauals refere to him as that. His move set would be pretty easy too. I thought of one a long time ago, but I forgot it. Maybe Im the only HM fanboy that plays Smash Bros, but I figured someone would have mentioned him by now.

One more thing, please stop spamming chars you want without saying anything new about it. Im just a little grumpy cause I just read at least a half hour total of people wanting Dark Samus and Dark Link and of course Sonic and Cloud. It kinda Irks me.

There's enough characters, they should  be working on new moves, items and levels.

BTW, if I HAD to choose a character, i'd say it'd be totally mad if they could snag Bond, he was in Goldeneye so he classifies. Tell me that wouldn't be cool :)

Does anyone else think its rediculous for Sonic to be a char? He spins in a circle, alright, great moves there. Put in Knuckles and Tails if any from the Sonic universe, then have Sonic and Shadow be items thatd go back and forth on their platform. Megaman X would be sweet too, but other than those sweet secret moves you get at the end of all of them all he does is shoot. I suppose you could get by with giving him Zero's sabre and those other moves and his shots as a standard B and have him attack like Samus for his A's, but I don't think itd be the same.

As for my personal choices, I really only have 2. One is Geno, which Ive only seen talked about briefly. The move set the guy came up with was pretty good though, props to him. I guess Mallow comes in then by default, but I could go without him. My other choice is probably the only original thing to be said for a long time, but he's always seemed like a good fit to me: Jack (The Harvest Moon Guy). That would be his full name too, parentheses and all. Jack cause I heard somewhere one of the mauals refere to him as that. His move set would be pretty easy too. I thought of one a long time ago, but I forgot it. Maybe Im the only HM fanboy that plays Smash Bros, but I figured someone would have mentioned him by now.

One more thing, please stop spamming chars you want without saying anything new about it. Im just a little grumpy cause I just read at least a half hour total of people wanting Dark Samus and Dark Link and of course Sonic and Cloud. It kinda Irks me.

TheZyzyva

There's enough characters, they should  be working on new moves, items and levels.

BTW, if I HAD to choose a character, i'd say it'd be totally mad if they could snag Bond, he was in Goldeneye so he classifies. Tell me that wouldn't be cool :)

Bisset

I know ZERO suit samus is in the game but how about regular suit samus?
Wallbrick

regular suit samus showed up in the trailer right before zero suit samus. So i guess they'll both be in the game.

[QUOTE="Wallbrick"]I know ZERO suit samus is in the game but how about regular suit samus?
NintenAlive

regular suit samus showed up in the trailer right before zero suit samus. So i guess they'll both be in the game.

[QUOTE="Coleman2886"]Z_unit,

    items are for noobs. i would not mind if they took items out completely. your other points are interesting. i def think the inclusion of your mii (or all your mii's) would make for some hilarious parties.

    smash bros HAS to find a home on the DS too.

    the portability linked with online play would be so amazing.

SMASH BROS FOR DS! who is with me?
ranma_of_chs

again, i think that using items grants "cheap" kills. when playing against someone fresh to the game, items are a hell of a lot of fun. i just dont think that using items is good for upper level playing.

getting a lucky shot with a poke ball is no where near as impressive at edge gaurding some one like marth or DK. case and point, Items: yes they should still be around for the Fun Factor

high skill matches: no items (and no, it does not have to be a flat level. i love fountain of dream!)

and btw, we really need to get DS smash bros going so you and i can play. that, or wait until SSBB is online, then we can duel there. look for Mr Wheeler next fall when Brawl comes out. peace

[QUOTE="ranma_of_chs"][QUOTE="Coleman2886"]Z_unit,

    items are for noobs. i would not mind if they took items out completely. your other points are interesting. i def think the inclusion of your mii (or all your mii's) would make for some hilarious parties.

    smash bros HAS to find a home on the DS too.

    the portability linked with online play would be so amazing.

SMASH BROS FOR DS! who is with me?
Coleman2886

again, i think that using items grants "cheap" kills. when playing against someone fresh to the game, items are a hell of a lot of fun. i just dont think that using items is good for upper level playing.

getting a lucky shot with a poke ball is no where near as impressive at edge gaurding some one like marth or DK. case and point, Items: yes they should still be around for the Fun Factor

high skill matches: no items (and no, it does not have to be a flat level. i love fountain of dream!)

and btw, we really need to get DS smash bros going so you and i can play. that, or wait until SSBB is online, then we can duel there. look for Mr Wheeler next fall when Brawl comes out. peace

sonic (I'm not really a fan of him but it would be cool), rayman, gorons, zoras, Mii's, a Wii stage, bomberman, WindWaker Link, Prince off POP, bunnies off rayman raving rabbids, Sam Fisher

Imagine the ultimate match-up Snake vs Sam Fisher

[QUOTE="Wallbrick"]I know ZERO suit samus is in the game but how about regular suit samus?
NintenAlive

regular suit samus showed up in the trailer right before zero suit samus. So i guess they'll both be in the game.

Its probably already been said in this huge thread but a BOWSER STAGE is needed. A mad level filled with Thwomps, lava etc.donaldo1989

this are the characters em hoping are in:

Issac/Feliz - Golden Sun

Soma/Jonathan - DS Castlevanias

Paper Mario

Wind Waker Link

Kalas from baten kaitos

Lloyd fro Tos

Another Major Zelda Villain, not just ganondorf, such as Vaati ( sp?)

Characters they should delete are:

Doctor Mario 

Young Link

I really hope they redesign every character, not just mario and link ( so far). Not just better graphically but with diffrent costumes. I heard ganondorf will have his twilight princess form, i hope htat the same for everyone, so they take the from of their latest game.

There has to be a Metal Gear stage.
lvin5992

This are my ideas:

1- After performing the Super Smash move of some characters, they transform into something. For example Samus Super Smash is the great beam, and after that she becomes Zero Suit Samus. Link could transform into Wolf Link with Midna on top, Mario in FLUDD Mario, Luigi in Vacuum Luigi, Zelda in Sheik or Tetra, Pikachu in Raichu (lol) and if Sonic is in the game (hope so) his transformation is Super Sonic.

2- At least this game must have two characters per franchise, (except those cases that are impossible like Ice Climbers) because it can't be possible that when SSBM was released here there were two uknown characters from an unknown franchise in America (Fire Emblem), and Donkey Kong which was well known had only one character (Now they must add Diddy Kong and King K. Rool).

3- More Nintendo characters than ever with new franchises: Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Ballon Fight, Mach Rider, Project HAMMER, etc.

4- If there are more third party characters my personal favorites are: Sonic (sega) and Megaman (Capcom). From Sonic the following characters: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Dr. Robotnik.

What do you think?. 

[QUOTE="lvin5992"]There has to be a Metal Gear stage.
DouglasBuffone

This are my ideas:

1- After performing the Super Smash move of some characters, they transform into something. For example Samus Super Smash is the great beam, and after that she becomes Zero Suit Samus. Link could transform into Wolf Link with Midna on top, Mario in FLUDD Mario, Luigi in Vacuum Luigi, Zelda in Sheik or Tetra, Pikachu in Raichu (lol) and if Sonic is in the game (hope so) his transformation is Super Sonic.

2- At least this game must have two characters per franchise, (except those cases that are impossible like Ice Climbers) because it can't be possible that when SSBM was released here there were two uknown characters from an unknown franchise in America (Fire Emblem), and Donkey Kong which was well known had only one character (Now they must add Diddy Kong and King K. Rool).

3- More Nintendo characters than ever with new franchises: Pikmin, Animal Crossing, Ballon Fight, Mach Rider, Project HAMMER, etc.

4- If there are more third party characters my personal favorites are: Sonic (sega) and Megaman (Capcom). From Sonic the following characters: Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Dr. Robotnik.

What do you think?. 

ZELMARio

I probably said this way earlier in this thread but I'll say it again. As long as Ridley is a playable character in SSBB, I'll be happy. Kreatzion

[QUOTE="ZELMARio"]

2- At least this game must have two characters per franchise, (except those cases that are impossible like Ice Climbers) because it can't be possible that when SSBM was released here there were two uknown characters from an unknown franchise in America (Fire Emblem), and Donkey Kong which was well known had only one character (Now they must add Diddy Kong and King K. Rool).

What do you think?. 

ranma_of_chs

 2) Two characters from each franchise would be nice. Only problem with the Donkey Kong characters is that Rareware is now owned by Microsoft. The only Donkey Kong character Nintendo has the rights for anymore is Donkey Kong.

they could always use DK Jr! he is a good substitute :)

[QUOTE="ranma_of_chs"][QUOTE="ZELMARio"]

2- At least this game must have two characters per franchise, (except those cases that are impossible like Ice Climbers) because it can't be possible that when SSBM was released here there were two uknown characters from an unknown franchise in America (Fire Emblem), and Donkey Kong which was well known had only one character (Now they must add Diddy Kong and King K. Rool).

What do you think?. 

Coleman2886

 2) Two characters from each franchise would be nice. Only problem with the Donkey Kong characters is that Rareware is now owned by Microsoft. The only Donkey Kong character Nintendo has the rights for anymore is Donkey Kong.

they could always use DK Jr! he is a good substitute :)

Here are my char choices:

Birdo (tag team with bowser).

Bomberman (tag team with bonk)

Bonk (the same as above, TG16 games are selling too well on VC, and hudson soft has good contacts with nintendo, remenber , they made the first mario party game for the N64)

Cinder (the Arcade KI is developed by nintendo and Midway, only the console versions of KI are owned by Rare).

Sonic (special event: classic videogame rivals).

Jago or Fulgore (oh!!! sweet !!!)

Mach rider (a mad max style biker would be really cool)

Balloon Fighter (a kirby stile char, weak, but very nimble)

Pac-Man (80' Arcade clash Dk vs Pac-man)

Goemon (another Konami char would be great)

Megaman "classic" (the best 8 bit hero)

Play with your Mii (you can choose the moves for your Mii, you can have a lot of weak moves and abilitys or have only a few and powerfull ones and some penaltys apllied to your char).

Scenery:

F1 race,Metal gear,a arcade cabinet,Fulgore's stage,Sonic 1.

Extra:

Combo system,tag team,super moves,counters,diminish the power of flying chars like kirby,online system,online rankings,costume shop.

[QUOTE="Coleman2886"][QUOTE="ranma_of_chs"][QUOTE="ZELMARio"]

2- At least this game must have two characters per franchise, (except those cases that are impossible like Ice Climbers) because it can't be possible that when SSBM was released here there were two uknown characters from an unknown franchise in America (Fire Emblem), and Donkey Kong which was well known had only one character (Now they must add Diddy Kong and King K. Rool).

What do you think?.

ranma_of_chs

2) Two characters from each franchise would be nice. Only problem with the Donkey Kong characters is that Rareware is now owned by Microsoft. The only Donkey Kong character Nintendo has the rights for anymore is Donkey Kong.

they could always use DK Jr! he is a good substitute :)

[QUOTE="ranma_of_chs"][QUOTE="Coleman2886"][QUOTE="ranma_of_chs"][QUOTE="ZELMARio"]

2- At least this game must have two characters per franchise, (except those cases that are impossible like Ice Climbers) because it can't be possible that when SSBM was released here there were two uknown characters from an unknown franchise in America (Fire Emblem), and Donkey Kong which was well known had only one character (Now they must add Diddy Kong and King K. Rool).

What do you think?.

Nurematsu

2) Two characters from each franchise would be nice. Only problem with the Donkey Kong characters is that Rareware is now owned by Microsoft. The only Donkey Kong character Nintendo has the rights for anymore is Donkey Kong.

they could always use DK Jr! he is a good substitute :)

All Donkey Kong characters are owned by Nintendo. Diddy is a playable character in Mario Kart  Double Dash and in other Mario titles post Rare sale. (Even Dixie was a playable character in Mario Baseball). So it is very likely they will be playable in SSBB. Another exmple is Krystal from Star Fox Adventures (Rare's creation), which later appeard in Nintendo games like Star Fox command.

All Donkey Kong characters are owned by Nintendo. Diddy is a playable character in Mario Kart  Double Dash and in other Mario titles post Rare sale. (Even Dixie was a playable character in Mario Baseball). So it is very likely they will be playable in SSBB. Another exmple is Krystal from Star Fox Adventures (Rare's creation), which later appeard in Nintendo games like Star Fox command.

ZELMARio

All Donkey Kong characters are owned by Nintendo. Diddy is a playable character in Mario Kart  Double Dash and in other Mario titles post Rare sale. (Even Dixie was a playable character in Mario Baseball). So it is very likely they will be playable in SSBB. Another exmple is Krystal from Star Fox Adventures (Rare's creation), which later appeard in Nintendo games like Star Fox command.

ZELMARio