We might not see Banjo Kazooie on Wiiware because of Microsoft!!!

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#1 SSBFan12
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I heard on G4 that Microsoft has paid rare alot of cash and they are not going to put this game on VC so thanks alot Microsoft.
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#2 musicman748
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I had a feeling it wasnt going to come.

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#3 air_wolf_cubed
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We've basically known this for the past 6 years
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#4 sliceanddice375
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I have both 1 and 2 on the N64.

I don't have to worry about it not being on VC.

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#5 Jaysonguy
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Nintendo doesn't own the game

What don't you get?

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#6 Senor_Kami
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I heard on G4 that Microsoft has paid rare alot of cash and they are not going to put this game on VC so thanks alot Microsoft.SSBFan12

Thats excellent. Ninty shafted us on Goldeneye and not sharing any other their NES/SNES games on XBLA and PSN. What goes around comes around.

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#7 Jaysonguy
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[QUOTE="SSBFan12"]I heard on G4 that Microsoft has paid rare alot of cash and they are not going to put this game on VC so thanks alot Microsoft.Senor_Kami

Thats excellent. Ninty shafted us on Goldeneye and not sharing any other their NES/SNES games on XBLA and PSN. What goes around comes around.

That was a rumor that wasn't true

Neither one can release it.

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#8 MAILER_DAEMON
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When did you ever think that it might possibly come out on VC? :? Rare is owned by Microsoft.
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#9 PlasmaBeam44
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Microsoft owns Rare. Rare own Banjo-Kazooie. Nintendo isn't getting their hands on it, esspecially since both BK and Banjo-Tooie are coming to Xbox Live Arcade.
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#10 superluigi96
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Yeah, Microsoft has owned Rare for a while now, so this is way old news.

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#11 chris3116
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Rare is owned by Microsoft.

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#12 Maxned
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Thankfully, I'm wii60.
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#13 PlasmaBeam44
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Thankfully, I'm wii60.Maxned

So am I, it's the best way to go.

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#14 viewtiful26
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[QUOTE="Maxned"]Thankfully, I'm wii60.PlasmaBeam44

So am I, it's the best way to go.

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Me too...although my 360 is probably in TX getting fixed cause of the RRoD. I think RARE has declined in their quality since the buyout though....that's a shame.

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#15 kenakuma
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[QUOTE="Maxned"]Thankfully, I'm wii60.PlasmaBeam44

So am I, it's the best way to go.

It most definetly is!

Right Jason?

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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="Maxned"]Thankfully, I'm wii60.kenakuma

So am I, it's the best way to go.

It most definetly is!

Right Jason?

Bueno

In other news Volvo is prohibited from making the Mustang and Pepsi seems on unsure footing when it comes to making Coca Cola.

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#17 scar-hawk
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"][QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="Maxned"]Thankfully, I'm wii60.Jaysonguy

So am I, it's the best way to go.

It most definetly is!

Right Jason?

Bueno

In other news Volvo is prohibited from making the Mustang and Pepsi seems on unsure footing when it comes to making Coca Cola.

Yes yes.. this is all very interesting. Let me take a while to figure this out.

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#18 JAB991
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[QUOTE="kenakuma"][QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="Maxned"]Thankfully, I'm wii60.Jaysonguy

So am I, it's the best way to go.

It most definetly is!

Right Jason?

Bueno

In other news Volvo is prohibited from making the Mustang and Pepsi seems on unsure footing when it comes to making Coca Cola.

Wii60 FTW! If you want to play all the games available, go multiplatform. That's the way it's always been, that's the way it'll always be.

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#19 Rocky32189
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Nintendo gave up the rights to this game when they decided to get rid of Rare. This isn't news.
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#20 dazzzilla
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All im happy about is that they couldnt take DK with them :P
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#21 SSBFan12
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All im happy about is that they couldnt take DK with them :Pdazzzilla
Well DK is really for Nintendo.
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#22 X-Remnant
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Gasp.
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"]

[QUOTE="Maxned"]Thankfully, I'm wii60.viewtiful26

So am I, it's the best way to go.

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Me too...although my 360 is probably in TX getting fixed cause of the RRoD. I think RARE has declined in their quality since the buyout though....that's a shame.

They're not that bad, but not as good as the N64 days, and yeah, it's good to be a Wii360 owner, I'm one of them as well, I'll be picking up both Banjo Kazooie and Banjo Tooie on XBLA eventually.
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#24 MAILER_DAEMON
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[QUOTE="dazzzilla"]All im happy about is that they couldnt take DK with them :PSSBFan12
Well DK is really for Nintendo.

No, it was originally made by Nintendo. Rare sold the character models and rights to characters in franchises that Nintendo originally made, like Donkey Kong and Star Fox (which is why Diddy and Krystal show up even though they were in Rare-made games), while Nintendo relinquished all rights to characters and scenarios in games that were original Rare franchises, like Killer Instinct and Banjo.
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#25 JustPlainLucas
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Because of Microsoft? :lol: No, no, no! Because of Nintendo. Don't be mad at Microsoft. Be mad at Nintendo for giving them up to Microsoft. :roll:
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#26 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="SSBFan12"][QUOTE="dazzzilla"]All im happy about is that they couldnt take DK with them :PMAILER_DAEMON
Well DK is really for Nintendo.

No, it was originally made by Nintendo. Rare sold the character models and rights to characters in franchises that Nintendo originally made, like Donkey Kong and Star Fox (which is why Diddy and Krystal show up even though they were in Rare-made games), while Nintendo relinquished all rights to characters and scenarios in games that were original Rare franchises, like Killer Instinct and Banjo.

You should have locked this along with that post
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#27 Tim_Allen
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heres some other news I hear Nintendo's new console's controller will look like a remote lol thats old news
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#29 fraz1776
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Microsoft owns 100% of Rare so surely they wouldn't need to pay them any money.
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#31 Wii60Joe
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We might not see Banjo Kazooie on Wiiware because of Microsoft!!!

Of course, Microsoft owns Rare so why would people think that They would let it go on VC I would like BK on Live Arcade better than VC

I peronally like the Xbox way better, dont get me wrong I like my Wii it just doesnt many good games like the N64 had... Boy do i miss those good old times :cry:

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#32 PS2Dude89
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Rare is owned by Microsoft so why would it ever come to VC? I have a Wii and a 360 so I'm ok.
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#33 viewtiful26
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[QUOTE="SSBFan12"][QUOTE="dazzzilla"]All im happy about is that they couldnt take DK with them :PMAILER_DAEMON
Well DK is really for Nintendo.

No, it was originally made by Nintendo. Rare sold the character models and rights to characters in franchises that Nintendo originally made, like Donkey Kong and Star Fox (which is why Diddy and Krystal show up even though they were in Rare-made games), while Nintendo relinquished all rights to characters and scenarios in games that were original Rare franchises, like Killer Instinct and Banjo.

Where it gets weird is how characters like Banjo and Conker didn't appear in the DS remake of Diddy Kong racing, but other characters like Timber, Tiptup, etc. are considered to be property of Nintendo (or at least I assume, since they are in the game).

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#35 darkkillerr
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We might not see Banjo Kazooie on Wiiware because of Microsoft!!!

I would say too

We might not see Goldeneye on xbla because of Nintendo!!!

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#36 PlasmaBeam44
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ya but you know what,

they cant have thier goldeneye so its fair ,

and im welling to bet nintendo will get activisions permission as well as free radicals permission to redo goldeneye,

remember even though rare made goldeneye for the n64 ,, , they sold the bond license away , hence why ea was allowed to use the goldeneye name

and the team behind goldeneye left rare lol, went to free radical , which has timesplitters 4 coming to wii

so why are people saying goldeneye cant happen , lol i dont get it , rare sold all the bond licensing off , they cant do either so what can they do ,

activision is the holder of any future 007 titles as well as past titles, in the bond franchise,

if rare was gonna sue over goldeneye they would have already when ea released goldeneye rogue agent ,

mariokart64fan

What?:|

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#37 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

ya but you know what,

they cant have thier goldeneye so its fair ,

and im welling to bet nintendo will get activisions permission as well as free radicals permission to redo goldeneye,

remember even though rare made goldeneye for the n64 ,, , they sold the bond license away , hence why ea was allowed to use the goldeneye name

and the team behind goldeneye left rare lol, went to free radical , which has timesplitters 4 coming to wii

so why are people saying goldeneye cant happen , lol i dont get it , rare sold all the bond licensing off , they cant do either so what can they do ,

activision is the holder of any future 007 titles as well as past titles, in the bond franchise,

if rare was gonna sue over goldeneye they would have already when ea released goldeneye rogue agent ,

PlasmaBeam44

What?:|

I never understand his posts either
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Thankfully, I'm wii60.Maxned

Lame, I'm WiiPC :( I won't get my hands on it. I wonder if we'll ever see XBLA on PCs?
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#39 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="SSBFan12"]I heard on G4 that Microsoft has paid rare alot of cash and they are not going to put this game on VC so thanks alot Microsoft.Senor_Kami

Thats excellent. Ninty shafted us on Goldeneye and not sharing any other their NES/SNES games on XBLA and PSN. What goes around comes around.

Ummm that was a rumor, neither nintendo, rare or microsoft own the licence to the jame bond games. Just think about it for a moment......

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#40 Mitazaki
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[QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"][QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

ya but you know what,

they cant have thier goldeneye so its fair ,

and im welling to bet nintendo will get activisions permission as well as free radicals permission to redo goldeneye,

remember even though rare made goldeneye for the n64 ,, , they sold the bond license away , hence why ea was allowed to use the goldeneye name

and the team behind goldeneye left rare lol, went to free radical , which has timesplitters 4 coming to wii

so why are people saying goldeneye cant happen , lol i dont get it , rare sold all the bond licensing off , they cant do either so what can they do ,

activision is the holder of any future 007 titles as well as past titles, in the bond franchise,

if rare was gonna sue over goldeneye they would have already when ea released goldeneye rogue agent ,

air_wolf_cubed

What?:|

I never understand his posts either

whats not to understand? rare doesnt own the licence to the james bond games so they can not release goldeneye without having to no doubt pay activision to do so since they do own the licence to make bond games.

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#41 air_wolf_cubed
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[QUOTE="air_wolf_cubed"][QUOTE="PlasmaBeam44"][QUOTE="mariokart64fan"]

ya but you know what,

they cant have thier goldeneye so its fair ,

and im welling to bet nintendo will get activisions permission as well as free radicals permission to redo goldeneye,

remember even though rare made goldeneye for the n64 ,, , they sold the bond license away , hence why ea was allowed to use the goldeneye name

and the team behind goldeneye left rare lol, went to free radical , which has timesplitters 4 coming to wii

so why are people saying goldeneye cant happen , lol i dont get it , rare sold all the bond licensing off , they cant do either so what can they do ,

activision is the holder of any future 007 titles as well as past titles, in the bond franchise,

if rare was gonna sue over goldeneye they would have already when ea released goldeneye rogue agent ,

Mitazaki

What?:|

I never understand his posts either

whats not to understand? rare doesnt own the licence to the james bond games so they can not release goldeneye without having to no doubt pay activision to do so since they do own the licence to make bond games.

That I understand. Everything else, no
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#42 methodkiller335
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than its a good thing i still have my N64 with banjo and kazooie and an XBOX 360. Also G4 fan here too.
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#43 skullboy950
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Actually, it was Nintendo's fault, because they were the ones who gave up on rare in the first place. So blame them.
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#44 Jaysonguy
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rare doesnt own the licence to the james bond games so they can not release goldeneye without having to no doubt pay activision to do so since they do own the licence to make bond games.

Mitazaki

False

Rare still owns the rights to Goldeneye

The license wasn't transferred correctly when it left Rare. Rare owns all the rights to the game they made.

Nintendo can't do one single thing about that. They're helpless as a newborn baby when it comes to anything with Goldeneye.

Someone not doing the correct paperwork let Rare destroy any hope of Nintenod getting that game.

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#45 BubbyJello
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Microsoft owns the Banjo IP, what do you expect?
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#46 wiifan001
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Yeah, Banjo Kazzoi may have been on a N64 system and is being revived, but the franchise always belonged to rare.

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#47 BubbyJello
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Yeah, Banjo Kazzoi may have been on a N64 system and is being revived, but the franchise always belonged to rare.

wiifan001

Except Microsoft now owns the franchise.

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#48 wiifan001
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[QUOTE="wiifan001"]

Yeah, Banjo Kazzoi may have been on a N64 system and is being revived, but the franchise always belonged to rare.

BubbyJello

Except Microsoft now owns the franchise.

Why do I have to be so specific and why do people have to be so critical around here??

Rare is like a 2nd party to Microsoft. It still belongs to Rare even though Microsoft now owns the company Rare. MS doesn't directly own the Banjo-Kazooi franchise in a 1st party way.

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#49 BubbyJello
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[QUOTE="BubbyJello"][QUOTE="wiifan001"]

Yeah, Banjo Kazzoi may have been on a N64 system and is being revived, but the franchise always belonged to rare.

wiifan001

Except Microsoft now owns the franchise.

Why do I have to be so specific and why do people have to be so critical around here??

Rare is like a 2nd party to Microsoft. It still belongs to Rare even though Microsoft now owns the company Rare. MS doesn't directly own the Banjo-Kazooi franchise in a 1st party way.

Rare is 1st party, and Microsoft 100% owns Banjo(and Rare).

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#50 HugoMattos
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Banjo-Kazooie and Tooie will be at Xboxlive and Wiiware. Nintendo will let both games be launched on xboxlive, but it still will have the opening with N64 logo and etc... but to be on xbox live it must be on Wiiware too, Nintendo "said". Uhull!!