Wii owners BUY Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Monster Hunter Tri

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#101 Michael-Smith
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I feel bad for TvC. From what I have read in this thread. This excellent game is going to die at retail. Just like Okami, Muramasa, Zack & Wiki, Little King's Story and the likes. Tis a shame:(gamefan67
It's not the fault of the people in this thread. Blame the company for investing in zero advertisement. It's like they expect reviews on websites like Gamespot and on TV like G4 to do all the exposure for them.

How does that saying go? You reap what you sew? Well putting the seeds on a shelf simply isn't enough... you have to plant the damn things too...

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#102 tom95b
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I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

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#103 LegatoSkyheart
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I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

tom95b

same. Oh well if they don't want it, then ok.

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#104 TheLordMagnus
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I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

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I don't think there's been a Capcom fighting game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. People who have owned mostly Nintendo consoles don't realize the quality of the series because they've never owned one before.
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#105 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="tom95b"]

I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

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I don't think there's been a Capcom fighting game on a Nintendo console since the SNES. People who have owned mostly Nintendo consoles don't realize the quality of the series because they've never owned one before.

They had Capcom vs. SNK 2 on the GCN but it was also on the PS2, and Xbox. According to reviews the GCN version was the worst but I still loved that game but I like SNK more then Capcom but I'm still interested.

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#106 Chojuto
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I feel bad for TvC. From what I have read in this thread. This excellent game is going to die at retail. Just like Okami, Muramasa, Zack & Wiki, Little King's Story and the likes. Tis a shame:(gamefan67
If I had the money, I would buy Muramasa, Zack & Wiki, Little King's Story, Tatsunoko vs. Capcom, and Monster Hunter 3 (I already got Okami). But because of my severely limited spending capabilities there would always be ONE other game I had to get instead of Muramasa/Zack & Wiki/Little King's Story. And by the time Monster Hunter 3 comes out I'll still probably be only able to purchase one of those games. Choosing is going to be extremely tough for me.
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#107 tom95b
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="tom95b"]

I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

same. Oh well if they don't want it, then ok.

I hope it will get AAA, so more people will buy it:P
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#108 elbert_b_23
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I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

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i have been excited for the game since last year i even did my best to get it brought over to n/a and when people said there was no chance i did the online petitions and spreed the word on the game now its even better copy is coming out with online and more characters along with more kinks worked out
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#109 tom95b
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[QUOTE="elbert_b_23"][QUOTE="tom95b"]

I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

i have been excited for the game since last year i even did my best to get it brought over to n/a and when people said there was no chance i did the online petitions and spreed the word on the game now its even better copy is coming out with online and more characters along with more kinks worked out

Lol nice to hear that:P
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#110 ff3138
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I'm getting Tatsunoko vs Capcom. I love all Capcom vs games!! Really, I'm so glad it's actually coming to America. It feels like a dream!
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#111 gamefan67
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[QUOTE="tom95b"]

I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

elbert_b_23
i have been excited for the game since last year i even did my best to get it brought over to n/a and when people said there was no chance i did the online petitions and spreed the word on the game now its even better copy is coming out with online and more characters along with more kinks worked out

I luvz u 4 ur dedication:)
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#112 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="tom95b"]

I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

tom95b

same. Oh well if they don't want it, then ok.

I hope it will get AAA, so more people will buy it:P

I'll LOL if that happens.

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#113 clicketyclick
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I hope it will get AAA, so more people will buy it:Ptom95b

Oh ya, that really worked for Dead Space Extraction, Little King's Story, Madworld, and No More Heroes.

Being a great game doesn't translate into having great sales, especially on Wii.

And if someone mentions advertisement one more time, I'll scream. First of all, the people these games are marketed to are already aware of these games and a number of these poor-selling good wii games were advertised on game sites and game news sites, which is where the target audience most likely is.

Second of all, I've never seen advertisements either on tv or online for many of the games that sell like hotcakes on Wii.

Third of all, I haven't seen tv advertisements for quite a number of pretty big games that sold well on PS360.

Fourth of all, the marketing budget is determined by how well the audience responds. If it doesn't get a good response, they pull advertisement so as to cut their losses and maximise profits - selling more doesn't necessarily translate into more profits.

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#114 InfinityMugen
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I hope the word of mouth will give this game some decent numbers. Imalittle annoyedthat I bought the import, but at least you guys will get a chance to enjoy this great game.

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#115 Sepewrath
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Being a good game doesn't translate into sales on any console. Also there is more to marketing than just tv commercials. Hell I saw posters of RE:DC(me thinks Capcom was trying to hide the fact that is was a rail shooter) Marketing also means to conform to what the mainstream consumer wants, in the case of video games that means name, content, capabilities like online play, visuals, and of course genre. All the advertisment in the world for DC or Zack and Wiki wouldn't have saved them from the huge marketing mistakes in genre for RE and the failure in name, artstyle etc for Z&W. But a lack of advertisement only further helps already poor marketing decisions, people likely thought Z&W was shovelware because of its name and looks and Capcom did nothing to educate the public.

I wonder clickety what games you have from 2 and 3 because like I said marketing is more than tv ads, don't underestimate where you can see games marketed. It could be magazines, the newspaper or on a show you don't happen to watch. I've heard of Wii games being advertised on like talk shows, some retailers like amazon email people about games and stuff, so just because you didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there. But lets be realistic I doubt they had Dead Space on Oprah, so to just get that out there in case you were planning on going there.

Lastly the marketing budget is decided on how they EXPECT the audience to respond. If they waited for the response of the audience, why would 2K be advertising Bioshock 2 already and Red Dead Redemption which isn't out 4 months. And even more important, if they waited for the response of the audience, how would the audience know that its there? The whole gaming audience doesn't hang out on GS and IGN, infact we would be lucky if 1% of that audience was on here. They cut marketing if the audience isn't responding to it, but if they never start it, then they already expect it not to help.

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#116 tom95b
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[QUOTE="tom95b"] I hope it will get AAA, so more people will buy it:Pclicketyclick

Oh ya, that really worked for Dead Space Extraction, Little King's Story, Madworld, and No More Heroes.

Being a great game doesn't translate into having great sales, especially on Wii.

And if someone mentions advertisement one more time, I'll scream. First of all, the people these games are marketed to are already aware of these games and a number of these poor-selling good wii games were advertised on game sites and game news sites, which is where the target audience most likely is.

Second of all, I've never seen advertisements either on tv or online for many of the games that sell like hotcakes on Wii.

Third of all, I haven't seen tv advertisements for quite a number of pretty big games that sold well on PS360.

Fourth of all, the marketing budget is determined by how well the audience responds. If it doesn't get a good response, they pull advertisement so as to cut their losses and maximise profits - selling more doesn't necessarily translate into more profits.

I never said it will sell much if it gets AAA, I only said that more people will buy it. The people who are still aren't sure about this game, are probably going to buy it if it gets AAA. If Dead Space Extraction or Little King's Story or No More Heroes didn't get good scores, even less people would buy it.

So Tatsunoko vs Capcom will sell more if it gets a higher score.

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#117 thedude-
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[QUOTE="tom95b"] I hope it will get AAA, so more people will buy it:Pclicketyclick

Oh ya, that really worked for Dead Space Extraction, Little King's Story, Madworld, and No More Heroes.

Being a great game doesn't translate into having great sales, especially on Wii.

And if someone mentions advertisement one more time, I'll scream. First of all, the people these games are marketed to are already aware of these games and a number of these poor-selling good wii games were advertised on game sites and game news sites, which is where the target audience most likely is.

Second of all, I've never seen advertisements either on tv or online for many of the games that sell like hotcakes on Wii.

Third of all, I haven't seen tv advertisements for quite a number of pretty big games that sold well on PS360.

Fourth of all, the marketing budget is determined by how well the audience responds. If it doesn't get a good response, they pull advertisement so as to cut their losses and maximise profits - selling more doesn't necessarily translate into more profits.

What you have seen and what is could be much different.

http://www.vgchartz.com/games/index.php?&results=50&name=&console=Wii&keyword=&publisher=&genre=&order=Sales&boxart=Both&showdeleted=®ion=All&alphasort=

Most of the million sellers on there have had some sort of marketing campaign with the exception of a few. Besides that Wii may need more mainstream marketing than the whole industry realizes.

They keep thinking that plastering their work on game websites will help let softcore gamers who really only find out about games through television and their local gamestop and 40+ year old individuals who certainly need regular advertisement. Most of the games that have not done well have missed a huge piece in the success formula. If there is good marketing, the game lacks polish, or the whole game concept is too niche to even grab a million buyers.

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#118 King_Dodongo
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I will get TvC it got 9 on NP and they label it as one of the best fighting games found on any platform
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#119 Videodogg
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I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

tom95b
for me it is because i dont know anything about the Tatsunoko characters, and i dont like anime. I really like the overall look of the game, but there is no appeal.
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#120 elbert_b_23
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[QUOTE="tom95b"] I hope it will get AAA, so more people will buy it:Pclicketyclick

Oh ya, that really worked for Dead Space Extraction, Little King's Story, Madworld, and No More Heroes.

Being a great game doesn't translate into having great sales, especially on Wii.

And if someone mentions advertisement one more time, I'll scream. First of all, the people these games are marketed to are already aware of these games and a number of these poor-selling good wii games were advertised on game sites and game news sites, which is where the target audience most likely is.

Second of all, I've never seen advertisements either on tv or online for many of the games that sell like hotcakes on Wii.

Third of all, I haven't seen tv advertisements for quite a number of pretty big games that sold well on PS360.

Fourth of all, the marketing budget is determined by how well the audience responds. If it doesn't get a good response, they pull advertisement so as to cut their losses and maximise profits - selling more doesn't necessarily translate into more profits.

sadly this is true and the main reason why is the ming set that most americans have that there are not anygood 3rd party games on the wii so for that reason most great games don't sell
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#121 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="tom95b"]

I don't understand why people aren't excited for Tatsunoko vs Capcom:P

Videodogg

for me it is because i dont know anything about the Tatsunoko characters, and i dont like anime. I really like the overall look of the game, but there is no appeal.

Just get it for the Capcom Characters!

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#122 InfinityMugen
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[QUOTE="gamefan67"]I feel bad for TvC. From what I have read in this thread. This excellent game is going to die at retail. Just like Okami, Muramasa, Zack & Wiki, Little King's Story and the likes. Tis a shame:(Michael-Smith

It's not the fault of the people in this thread. Blame the company for investing in zero advertisement. It's like they expect reviews on websites like Gamespot and on TV like G4 to do all the exposure for them.

How does that saying go? You reap what you sew? Well putting the seeds on a shelf simply isn't enough... you have to plant the damn things too...

But you can only play the no advertising card for so long. I hope this title does well. It's a gem and it deserves good numbers.. I dont want to hear any excuses if this bombs at retail.

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#123 wooooode
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But I dont like fighting games, I think I just got sick of them. I am slightly interested in Monster hunter Tri but dont know enough about it. I will keep my eye on it though. I have bought plenty of Capcom's low selling games such as Okami and Zack and Wiki.
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#124 Theguy56
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I like fighters but I REALLY REALLY hate the fighter community.

Look at the Melee>Brawl argument to see what I'm talking about.

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#125 Arctic_Grillz
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I just wish Monster hunter 3 comes out already!!!
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#126 wes008
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I am DEFINITELY buying MH3. And I've been consider TvsC. They both look like good quality games.

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#127 wes008
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I just wish Monster hunter 3 comes out already!!!Arctic_Grillz

We've been waiting too long. Capcom wants a steady stream of cash rather that a lot of money all at once. And, please Nintendo, localize the CC Pro!

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#128 currentlemon
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I like fighters but I REALLY REALLY hate the fighter community.

Look at the Melee>Brawl argument to see what I'm talking about.

Theguy56

Wait...are you judging the whole fighter community based on the Melee>Brawl agrument. Cause I go to Dustloop.com and Tekkenzaibatsu.com and I never seen any "serious" agrument about Blazblue and Guilty Gear and Tekken 6 with the previous Tekken games.

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#129 Theguy56
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[QUOTE="Theguy56"]

I like fighters but I REALLY REALLY hate the fighter community.

Look at the Melee>Brawl argument to see what I'm talking about.

currentlemon

Wait...are you judging the whole fighter community based on the Melee>Brawl agrument. Cause I go to Dustloop.com and Tekkenzaibatsu.com and I never seen any "serious" agrument about Blazblue and Guilty Gear and Tekken 6 with the previous Tekken games.

Actually BlazBlue is the one which makes me want to play fighters. It's awesome. However, fights between for example, Street Fighter 4 fans and BlazBlue fans do happen. I don't know, I just find them nitpicking a bit too much sometimes.
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#130 currentlemon
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Actually BlazBlue is the one which makes me want to play fighters. It's awesome. However, fights between for example, Street Fighter 4 fans and BlazBlue fans do happen. I don't know, I just find them nitpicking a bit too much sometimes.

They do happen maybe on sites like gamespot and ign, but, in my experience, I don't see fans from a certain fighting game, like SF4, troll on other sites like dustloop and agrue which one is better. Then again I don't go to shouryuken.com since I don't play SF4, but most fighting game fans I know are either sane or they like multiple fighting games and they don't troll on each others sites.

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#131 currentlemon
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Actually BlazBlue is the one which makes me want to play fighters. It's awesome. However, fights between for example, Street Fighter 4 fans and BlazBlue fans do happen. I don't know, I just find them nitpicking a bit too much sometimes.

They do happen maybe on sites like gamespot and ign, but, in my experience, I don't see fans from a certain fighting game, like SF4, troll on other sites like dustloop and agrue which one is better. Then again I don't go to shouryuken.com since I don't play SF4, but most fighting game fans I know are either sane or they like multiple fighting games and they don't troll on each others sites.

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#132 currentlemon
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Ah crap double post. My bad. :?

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#133 ChildOfGaming7
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I'll get Tatsunoko vs. Capcom once I get back to my job, even though I tried Marvel vs. Capcom 2 and I can't beat the final boss on the easiest difficulty setting...

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#134 Theguy56
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Actually BlazBlue is the one which makes me want to play fighters. It's awesome. However, fights between for example, Street Fighter 4 fans and BlazBlue fans do happen. I don't know, I just find them nitpicking a bit too much sometimes.

They do happen maybe on sites like gamespot and ign, but, in my experience, I don't see fans from a certain fighting game, like SF4, troll on other sites like dustloop and agrue which one is better. Then again I don't go to shouryuken.com since I don't play SF4, but most fighting game fans I know are either sane or they like multiple fighting games and they don't troll on each others sites.

currentlemon
Yeah I just started reading DustLoop. Cool community, much better than the gamespot forums because to be honest more than half the posts don't even make sense here, especially the Brawl boards.
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#135 tom95b
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I just wish Monster hunter 3 comes out already!!!Arctic_Grillz

Yeah it's taking way too long, it's out in Japan for months!

But maybe they're adding some new things, that would be awesome!