Wow, Someone said that SSBB is not hardcore

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#101 codezer0
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For example compare the amount of gameplay mechanics of GGACP to SSBB, GGACP has many gameplay mechanics you need to pay attention to and execute in the game while SSBB has very little. Another example are the combos, some games are more demanding than others, either it being how difficult is it to input combos or how little frames you have to link your attacks. SSBB on the other hand has no focus on frame links, and is not demanding whatsoever on combos as it uses a two button control scheme for attacking and simplifies attacks to up, down, forward, neutral, and back if I'm correct.

Two button inputs with simplified execution does not just make the game easier makes the game shallower than most fighters, without directional inputs like 236, 623, 41236, 84123697, etc.. I'll use an example that I gave at the thread TC was noting at, these are BnB's from AH3:

"421C > j.623X > j.4X > j.A > land > 5C > dash > 5A > 5B > j.A > j.A > j.C > 5A > 5B > j.A > j.623X > j.4X > j.2A+B > land > 623B > 5HC > j.A > j.623X > j.4X > j.2A+B > air dash > j.C

2A, 5B(1 hit), 2C(1 hit), 623+A, 3HC, 5A, 2B, j.B, j.C, 5A, 2B, j.A, j.B, j.C, 5A, 5B(1 hit), 2B, j.A, j.B, dj.B, 623+A, 236+A+B

6C (1 hit) > 5A > 5B > j.A > j.623X > j.4B > j.A > jC > j.A > j.C > (top hit) > land > dash > 5B > j.A > j.A > j.C > land > 5A > 5B > j.A > j.623X > j.4X > j.2A+B > land > 623B > 5HC > j.A > j.623X > j.4X > j.2A+B > air dash > j.C"

If it's compared to a combo in SSBB (I have not found any online) you can see a obvious difference in difficulty. I can understand how someone that is new to fighters can think SSBB is deep and difficult, but compared to other fighters it is not.

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What in the holiest of holies is all this moonspeak? even the leet translators don't know what the **** you just typed.
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#102 tocool340
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[QUOTE="Jelley0"]

[QUOTE="tocool340"] :? I know you said "IYO", but brawl someone like me and say it requires no skill and is a button masher. I'd three stock you if think button mashing in brawl will get you to win....martinX3X

I doubt he knows what 3 stock means

I do know what 3 stock means. :) It's not that i hate the game. I'm just saying it's not a "hardcore" game.

I thought you said it wasn't hardcore because anyone can win by simply button-mashing....
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#103 tocool340
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[QUOTE="martinX3X"]

IMO the game is mainly just button mashing. You dont need much skill to be good at it.

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If you button mash in Smash Brothers, your character would barely do anything...:?

Their character would most likely suicide than land a hit. It requires precision to hit a skill player not just simply hitting buttons. If you tried button-mashing in Brawl or Super Smash Bros. in general like you would Tekken or Soul Caliber against a somewhat skilled player, I don't think you'll even be able take one life....
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#104 pikachuck387
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The closest you can get to button mashing in SSBB is by constantly pressing B with Captain Falcon. FALCON PUUUNCH!!!


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#105 oldmanriver1
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Its both. You can play it as a serious fighter with the 3 lives, no items and only final destination way of playing. Or you can just play it as a dumb party game on super sudden death mode with only smart bombs on. I prefer the latter tbh :P

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#106 mayforcebeyou
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it's hardcore if items are turned off.