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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESApocalypse33
you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="kobegill"]So someone explain Jay-Z. Compared from Reasonable Doubt to Kingdom Come...... Hustler music and Corporation/business music.Apocalypse33
i would rather use the Black Album, same type themes, better music. RD is more "get that paper" mentality, while KC he is much more at ease with himself and could give less of a damn what we think, and its a lot more laid back. I prefer RD of course. I dont know if Jay-Z "fell off" as rob says rappers magically do, but KC was meh for me.

All artist fall off, Kanye talks about it too, artist have moments of genius and no matter how hard they try they will never get back in that frame of mind again. Jay is out of his, as is Nas, Em, Stevie Wonder, Micheal Jackson, ect. Some do better at adjusting outside of this genius frame then others do, but Em has done a horrible job, it's that simple.

you didnt like HHID????

It was good, but Nas has handled being out of his genius mind frame fairly well, Em on the other hand hasn't
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESfat_rob

you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

i just think you havent really adjusted, also even his wack track only he could do, can you imagine Nas doing Ass Like That, it would be a massive disaster, even though those tracks are sub-par Em is the only rapper i could imagine trying to do a track like that, which is a testament to his versatility (whether you like it or not)
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="kobegill"]So someone explain Jay-Z. Compared from Reasonable Doubt to Kingdom Come...... Hustler music and Corporation/business music.fat_rob
i would rather use the Black Album, same type themes, better music. RD is more "get that paper" mentality, while KC he is much more at ease with himself and could give less of a damn what we think, and its a lot more laid back. I prefer RD of course. I dont know if Jay-Z "fell off" as rob says rappers magically do, but KC was meh for me.

All artist fall off, Kanye talks about it too, artist have moments of genius and no matter how hard they try they will never get back in that frame of mind again. Jay is out of his, as is Nas, Em, Stevie Wonder, Micheal Jackson, ect. Some do better at adjusting outside of this genius frame then others do, but Em has done a horrible job, it's that simple.

you didnt like HHID????

It was good, but Nas has handled being out of his genius mind frame fairly well, Em on the other hand hasn't

yeah, you know since he hasnt had a full release since his one average album, thats a great judgement to make....
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.

Royce, only because he was a good friend, Suge he had no real reason for, and come on...Nelly, its not like he needed to, i am not even sure what that was all about, and its not subliminal once you have openly dissed someone before, its more of a continuation of it, you should know who he is talking about by now, Canib!tch ownt.

Nelly dissed Eminem on TRL of all places, Em has dissed people for much less, but with Nelly he sqaushed it (Royce's brother pointed this out on a diss track too). Suge constantly dissed Dre (JD was only dissed by EM because he dissed Dre) and stole EM's rhyme book and won't sell it back (kind of a funny story). The only credible rapper Em ever dissed was Canibus and nothing happened with that. Em wanted to diss Suge so bad, but Dre told him no.
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESApocalypse33

you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

i just think you havent really adjusted, also even his wack track only he could do, can you imagine Nas doing Ass Like That, it would be a massive disaster, even though those tracks are sub-par Em is the only rapper i could imagine trying to do a track like that, which is a testament to his versatility (whether you like it or not)

Ass Like That IS A DISASTER :lol: man...you are the biggest stan ever...that song is a testament to how horrible Eminem has gotten and how unfocused he is. Truth be told, eminem from 1998-8 mile would diss Post 8 mile Eminem
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.

Royce, only because he was a good friend, Suge he had no real reason for, and come on...Nelly, its not like he needed to, i am not even sure what that was all about, and its not subliminal once you have openly dissed someone before, its more of a continuation of it, you should know who he is talking about by now, Canib!tch ownt.

Nelly dissed Eminem on TRL of all places, Em has dissed people for much less, but with Nelly he sqaushed it (Royce's brother pointed this out on a diss track too). Suge constantly dissed Dre (JD was only dissed by EM because he dissed Dre) and stole EM's rhyme book and won't sell it back (kind of a funny story). The only credible rapper Em ever dissed was Canibus and nothing happened with that. Em wanted to diss Suge so bad, but Dre told him no.

i didnt know about the rhyme book thing, and i think the Suge thing was because Suge is a crazy mofo who will kill you (i believe he is the reason Pac is dead, i mean WTF the shooter came up to the car, killed Pac and just left Suge sitting there...)
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="kobegill"]So someone explain Jay-Z. Compared from Reasonable Doubt to Kingdom Come...... Hustler music and Corporation/business music.Apocalypse33
i would rather use the Black Album, same type themes, better music. RD is more "get that paper" mentality, while KC he is much more at ease with himself and could give less of a damn what we think, and its a lot more laid back. I prefer RD of course. I dont know if Jay-Z "fell off" as rob says rappers magically do, but KC was meh for me.

All artist fall off, Kanye talks about it too, artist have moments of genius and no matter how hard they try they will never get back in that frame of mind again. Jay is out of his, as is Nas, Em, Stevie Wonder, Micheal Jackson, ect. Some do better at adjusting outside of this genius frame then others do, but Em has done a horrible job, it's that simple.

you didnt like HHID????

It was good, but Nas has handled being out of his genius mind frame fairly well, Em on the other hand hasn't

yeah, you know since he hasnt had a full release since his one average album, thats a great judgement to make....

He's had more then enough chances to drop dope verses that would impress someone who used to hold Em as one of the greats. Some of Eminem's best verses are his guest spots.
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESfat_rob

you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

i just think you havent really adjusted, also even his wack track only he could do, can you imagine Nas doing Ass Like That, it would be a massive disaster, even though those tracks are sub-par Em is the only rapper i could imagine trying to do a track like that, which is a testament to his versatility (whether you like it or not)

Ass Like That IS A DISASTER :lol: man...you are the biggest stan ever...that song is a testament to how horrible Eminem has gotten and how unfocused he is. Truth be told, eminem from 1998-8 mile would diss Post 8 mile Eminem

i'd rather listen to that than Laffy Taffy, my point was it was a song that i can stand, not like, but stand
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="kobegill"]So someone explain Jay-Z. Compared from Reasonable Doubt to Kingdom Come...... Hustler music and Corporation/business music.fat_rob
i would rather use the Black Album, same type themes, better music. RD is more "get that paper" mentality, while KC he is much more at ease with himself and could give less of a damn what we think, and its a lot more laid back. I prefer RD of course. I dont know if Jay-Z "fell off" as rob says rappers magically do, but KC was meh for me.

All artist fall off, Kanye talks about it too, artist have moments of genius and no matter how hard they try they will never get back in that frame of mind again. Jay is out of his, as is Nas, Em, Stevie Wonder, Micheal Jackson, ect. Some do better at adjusting outside of this genius frame then others do, but Em has done a horrible job, it's that simple.

you didnt like HHID????

It was good, but Nas has handled being out of his genius mind frame fairly well, Em on the other hand hasn't

yeah, you know since he hasnt had a full release since his one average album, thats a great judgement to make....

He's had more then enough chances to drop dope verses that would impress someone who used to hold Em as one of the greats. Some of Eminem's best verses are his guest spots.

i gave you examples but you think they all suck, what more do you want, there are only two wack spots i have heard, but you think they all are bad, so the difference of opinion is what is keeping this argument going.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESApocalypse33

you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

i just think you havent really adjusted, also even his wack track only he could do, can you imagine Nas doing Ass Like That, it would be a massive disaster, even though those tracks are sub-par Em is the only rapper i could imagine trying to do a track like that, which is a testament to his versatility (whether you like it or not)

Ass Like That IS A DISASTER :lol: man...you are the biggest stan ever...that song is a testament to how horrible Eminem has gotten and how unfocused he is. Truth be told, eminem from 1998-8 mile would diss Post 8 mile Eminem

i'd rather listen to that than Laffy Taffy, my point was it was a song that i can stand, not like, but stand

see and that's where our STANDards differ, Ass like that should be an insult to any Eminem fan that grew up with some of the crazy lyrical masterpieces from his old albums. And comparing a song to laffy taffy should show you how bad Ass Like That is...you have to compare it to Laffy Taffy inorder to justify you listening to it :lol:, how about this, **** both Laffy Taffy and Ass Like That and bump Hellborn.
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESfat_rob

you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

i just think you havent really adjusted, also even his wack track only he could do, can you imagine Nas doing Ass Like That, it would be a massive disaster, even though those tracks are sub-par Em is the only rapper i could imagine trying to do a track like that, which is a testament to his versatility (whether you like it or not)

Ass Like That IS A DISASTER :lol: man...you are the biggest stan ever...that song is a testament to how horrible Eminem has gotten and how unfocused he is. Truth be told, eminem from 1998-8 mile would diss Post 8 mile Eminem

i'd rather listen to that than Laffy Taffy, my point was it was a song that i can stand, not like, but stand

see and that's where our STANDards differ, Ass like that should be an insult to any Eminem fan that grew up with some of the crazy lyrical masterpieces from his old albums. And comparing a song to laffy taffy should show you how bad Ass Like That is...you have to compare it to Laffy Taffy inorder to justify you listening to it :lol:, how about this, **** both Laffy Taffy and Ass Like That and bump Hellborn.

its hellbound, and my point i was making was by bringing up an unlistenable song, however my opinions differ with those who believe MMLP to be his best album while i prefer TES.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="kobegill"]So someone explain Jay-Z. Compared from Reasonable Doubt to Kingdom Come...... Hustler music and Corporation/business music.Apocalypse33
i would rather use the Black Album, same type themes, better music. RD is more "get that paper" mentality, while KC he is much more at ease with himself and could give less of a damn what we think, and its a lot more laid back. I prefer RD of course. I dont know if Jay-Z "fell off" as rob says rappers magically do, but KC was meh for me.

All artist fall off, Kanye talks about it too, artist have moments of genius and no matter how hard they try they will never get back in that frame of mind again. Jay is out of his, as is Nas, Em, Stevie Wonder, Micheal Jackson, ect. Some do better at adjusting outside of this genius frame then others do, but Em has done a horrible job, it's that simple.

you didnt like HHID????

It was good, but Nas has handled being out of his genius mind frame fairly well, Em on the other hand hasn't

yeah, you know since he hasnt had a full release since his one average album, thats a great judgement to make....

He's had more then enough chances to drop dope verses that would impress someone who used to hold Em as one of the greats. Some of Eminem's best verses are his guest spots.

i gave you examples but you think they all suck, what more do you want, there are only two wack spots i have heard, but you think they all are bad, so the difference of opinion is what is keeping this argument going.

none of those examples are good, they are either average or wack, I even posted some of the verses in this thread and compared it to his older stuff...it is SO easy to see the drop off in quality. Your a stan, there is a reason everyone on this board calls you one...
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]only reason Nastradomus was wack is cause Nas released I Am only a few months earlier...there were nearly two years between Encore and TESApocalypse33

you didnt respond to the rest of the response, now tell me how wack Never Enough and Like Toy Soldiers are, come on.

I've never liked "Like Toy Soldiers" the beat is awful and the rhyme scheme is simple, only the subject matter is good, Never Enough has always been my favorite Encore track, but it's too short. And anyway, two tracks out of the 35 or so tracks including and post encore do not bode well for Eminem. Nas had more then two dope tracks on Nastradomus. :|

dope tracks off of Encore, Never Enough, Like Toy Soldiers (i like it), Encore (probably the best song on the album), Mockingbird (i totally loved the song way before it became a single), One Shot, 2 Shot, Crazy in Love (i love the sample), Evil Deeds (second verse owns), We As Americans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, The Re-Up, Jimmy Crack Corn, You Dont Know, No Apologies, Puke (i like it you dont have to), My 1st Single, also i have not included any guest spots. Man that is a bunch of wack songs :?, Also how can you like Never Enough if Em magically lost his flow and lyrical ability? You mean it reappeared for one track and then he forgot how to rap again?

Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, and We As Americans were out A YEAR before Encore, stop including them, No Apologies is two old free**** and a new wack third verse, the other tracks you named (sans Never Enough) are either average or wack, and give NO indication of Eminem returning to any form whatsoever. And lol at liking the horrible Crazy In Love song....ish is beyond garbage.

you think the Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were garbage, you think Encore (widely considered to be the albums saving grace) to be garbage, you sir are just too stubborn to admit it and those tracks could be ****c (not saying they are) and most likely you would give me the same response, no point in arguing with you is there.

For eminem those songs are lame, Encore is saved by the beat and chorus, the lyrics are cool, but nothign special. It's an average song. Re-Up and Jimmy Crack Corn were average. I never said all the songs were wack, I said they were either average or wack, most were wack, some were not. Those song are not even close to the ****ic Eminem tracks, that statement is laughable.

come on, you know Encore was meant to be a boomin song, with no general them, i mean what would you like Em to do every track, honestly i think Em hurt himself by having so much quality at first, that at the first sight of music, maybe not on the level as before, people automatically assume its garbage. Honestly i dont know what kind of song you want if you didnt like the Re-Up tracks.

I listen to Eminem to hear lyrical music, dope word phrasing, ill flow, interesting subject matter, and dope rhyming. None of that is really present in the Re-Up except on Public Enemy #1 (barely), and the first verse of No Apologies. Only Never Enough on Encore gives me that, and that is barely. Eminem used to sound special, now he seems like he's trying to sound like someone else that isn't him

i just think you havent really adjusted, also even his wack track only he could do, can you imagine Nas doing Ass Like That, it would be a massive disaster, even though those tracks are sub-par Em is the only rapper i could imagine trying to do a track like that, which is a testament to his versatility (whether you like it or not)

Ass Like That IS A DISASTER :lol: man...you are the biggest stan ever...that song is a testament to how horrible Eminem has gotten and how unfocused he is. Truth be told, eminem from 1998-8 mile would diss Post 8 mile Eminem

i'd rather listen to that than Laffy Taffy, my point was it was a song that i can stand, not like, but stand

see and that's where our STANDards differ, Ass like that should be an insult to any Eminem fan that grew up with some of the crazy lyrical masterpieces from his old albums. And comparing a song to laffy taffy should show you how bad Ass Like That is...you have to compare it to Laffy Taffy inorder to justify you listening to it :lol:, how about this, **** both Laffy Taffy and Ass Like That and bump Hellborn.

its hellbound, and my point i was making was by bringing up an unlistenable song, however my opinions differ with those who believe MMLP to be his best album while i prefer TES.

exactly why your opinion is wack
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.elcamino72

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.elcamino72

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

nothing really came from it if i remember correctly, but they dont talk or anything
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

nothing really came from it if i remember correctly, but they dont talk or anything

See I'm just Marshall Mathers, just a regular guy...guess you never heard that song uh?
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

nothing really came from it if i remember correctly, but they dont talk or anything

See I'm just Marshall Mathers, just a regular guy...guess you never heard that song uh?

of course not....:? it happens to be my 2nd or third favorite song off the album
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

nothing really came from it if i remember correctly, but they dont talk or anything

See I'm just Marshall Mathers, just a regular guy...guess you never heard that song uh?

of course not....:? it happens to be my 2nd or third favorite song off the album

then you do know em dissed ICP on that song...subliminally
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

No but he dissed them in his concert. Wait I kinda remember a song where he dissed them hard. He diden't say there name but

Plus I was put here to put fear in **** who spray Faygo Root Beer
and call themselves "Clowns" cause they look queer
F*****2Dope and Silent Gay
Claimin Detroit, when y'all live twenty miles away **** punks)
And I don't wrestle, I'll knock you **** **** the **** out
Ask 'em about the club they was at when they snuck out
after they ducked out the back when they saw us and bugged out
(AHHH!) Ducked down and got paintballs shot at they truck, blaow!
Look at y'all runnin your mouth again
when you ain't seen a **** Mile Road, South of 10
And I don't need help, from D-12, to beat up two females
in make-up, who may try to scratch me with Lee Nails
"Slim Anus," you damn right, Slim Anus
I don't get ****ed in mine like you two little flaming ****!

like you said he dosen't say there name but it is obvious

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.elcamino72

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

No but he dissed them in his concert. Wait I kinda remember a song where he dissed them hard. He diden't say there name but

Plus I was put here to put fear in **** who spray Faygo Root Beer
and call themselves "Clowns" cause they look queer
F*****2Dope and Silent Gay
Claimin Detroit, when y'all live twenty miles away **** punks)
And I don't wrestle, I'll knock you **** **** the **** out
Ask 'em about the club they was at when they snuck out
after they ducked out the back when they saw us and bugged out
(AHHH!) Ducked down and got paintballs shot at they truck, blaow!
Look at y'all runnin your mouth again
when you ain't seen a **** Mile Road, South of 10
And I don't need help, from D-12, to beat up two females
in make-up, who may try to scratch me with Lee Nails
"Slim Anus," you damn right, Slim Anus
I don't get ****ed in mine like you two little flaming ****!

like you said he dosen't say there name but it is obvious

oh that was Marshall Mathers, my bad
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.
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That was "marshall Mathers"
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That was "marshall Mathers"elcamino72
yeah i know, the D12 part reminded me of another song
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also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME
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also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob
i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.
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also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob

Ya i heard that befor wheres that from.

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#84 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

Apocalypse33
i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.

still a subliminal diss, something you said em never used to do...
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME

meh, you are overthinking it, but if you are right congratulations, why dont we ask him, next time we see him.
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

elcamino72

Ya i heard that befor wheres that from.

Invasion 2 freesty.le...if I'm not mistaken
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob
i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.

still a subliminal diss, something you said em never used to do...

not a diss, he stops himself, he was about to say the name (not subliminal) and catches himself, it was more of a "im gonna sit this one out" than a diss
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob

Ya i heard that befor wheres that from.

Invasion 2 freesty.le...if I'm not mistaken

it is.
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob

Ya i heard that befor wheres that from.

Invasion 2 freesty.le...if I'm not mistaken

Alright cool

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.Apocalypse33

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME

meh, you are overthinking it, but if you are right congratulations, why dont we ask him, next time we see him.

lol yeah, if Em wanted it out in the open he would have just said Game's name :| Game has no quams with dissing people down with 50...dude went on a rampage dissing philly artist cool with Jay when him and Jay almost got into a beef.
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME

meh, you are overthinking it, but if you are right congratulations, why dont we ask him, next time we see him.

lol yeah, if Em wanted it out in the open he would have just said Game's name :| Game has no quams with dissing people down with 50...dude went on a rampage dissing philly artist cool with Jay when him and Jay almost got into a beef.

yeah, we know Em is scared of game :?
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME

meh, you are overthinking it, but if you are right congratulations, why dont we ask him, next time we see him.

lol yeah, if Em wanted it out in the open he would have just said Game's name :| Game has no quams with dissing people down with 50...dude went on a rampage dissing philly artist cool with Jay when him and Jay almost got into a beef.

Diden't the young guns (chris and that other kid) diss him first.

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#93 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

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i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.

still a subliminal diss, something you said em never used to do...

not a diss, he stops himself, he was about to say the name (not subliminal) and catches himself, it was more of a "im gonna sit this one out" than a diss

do you even know what subliminal means, it's a diss directed at someone, but the name isn't attached. the diss is still present, the person on the recieving end is just not mentioned. He wasn't cathing himself, just sending a jab towards Royce, emcee's do it all the time. One of the better aspects of the Nas and Jay diss is the subliminals that lead up to it.
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#94 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.elcamino72

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME

meh, you are overthinking it, but if you are right congratulations, why dont we ask him, next time we see him.

lol yeah, if Em wanted it out in the open he would have just said Game's name :| Game has no quams with dissing people down with 50...dude went on a rampage dissing philly artist cool with Jay when him and Jay almost got into a beef.

Diden't the young guns (chris and that other kid) diss him first.

I'm talking about Cassidy mostly (he dissed Cass on the radio here and then imediatley started messing with Cyssero who is basically a cassidy rip-off) and he dissed the young guns first on the radio here, someone asked him about the young guns and he said **** them and called them a bunch of ish.
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#95 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob
i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.

still a subliminal diss, something you said em never used to do...

not a diss, he stops himself, he was about to say the name (not subliminal) and catches himself, it was more of a "im gonna sit this one out" than a diss

do you even know what subliminal means, it's a diss directed at someone, but the name isn't attached. the diss is still present, the person on the recieving end is just not mentioned. He wasn't cathing himself, just sending a jab towards Royce, emcee's do it all the time. One of the better aspects of the Nas and Jay diss is the subliminals that lead up to it.

i know what a subliminal is, i took from that he almost entered the beef but stayed out, D-12 has stated in interviews that Em didnt want any part of that beef
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#96 fat_rob
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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

Apocalypse33
i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.

still a subliminal diss, something you said em never used to do...

not a diss, he stops himself, he was about to say the name (not subliminal) and catches himself, it was more of a "im gonna sit this one out" than a diss

do you even know what subliminal means, it's a diss directed at someone, but the name isn't attached. the diss is still present, the person on the recieving end is just not mentioned. He wasn't cathing himself, just sending a jab towards Royce, emcee's do it all the time. One of the better aspects of the Nas and Jay diss is the subliminals that lead up to it.

i know what a subliminal is, i took from that he almost entered the beef but stayed out, D-12 has stated in interviews that Em didnt want any part of that beef

people state lots of things in interviews, fact is, Em said in the song that he was trying to figure out how to battle his onw clone (Royce), if Em wanted no parts of the beef, why would he spend time trying to figure out how to battle his own Royce
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[QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="elcamino72"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"]^^ maybe, i never looked that much into the song, i interpreted it as the general state of hip-hop and how Em isnt attacking the lame music, because that descritption not only fits game, but many other wack rappers.fat_rob

em has had verses like this before, talking about beef's he wanted to jump in but didn't...namely the verse from Say What You Say where Em talks about Suge...

but he is much more blatant, em has never been one to shy away from beef, he either embraces it or doesnt mess with it, subliminals have never been his thing, he straight out says who he is talking about.

Em shyed away from beef with Nelly, Suge, Royce, and others. Em likes to beef with Pop stars mostly, he's only released diss tracks to wack emcees like JD, Ja, Benzino, Everlast, and then for some reason he dissed Limp Bisket. The Canibus beef never really materialized and the song was leaked, it was never supposed to be released. And has subliminally dissed Benzino a couple times since the their beef supposedly ended.


What About Insane Clown Posse that was the beef i remember about eminem.

he never said their names in a song...hmmm thanks there is a great example of Eminem using subliminal disses. Not that subliminal, but he never mentioned their names in a song.

oooh, now you have one shaky example in your shoddy argument about subliminals. *High Five*

I;m sure I can find many more, Em has a rather large catelouge, but any it doesn't matter if Em used it before or not. He never would have done a club song like Touchdown before, but he ended up doing one, he's already stated he doesn't like full blown beef, and he's stated on tracks before that he trys to stay out of stuff (then on the same track he alludes to the person he was going to beef with) so why would this be out of the ordinary. Remember, not too long ago Game was saying he was going to diss eminem, that feeling didn't come out of nowhere doggie.

now he stays out of beef, refer to more mature em. Touchdown came after Smack That and Shake That, which were club songs, and i probably have every single Em song, sans roughly 10 or so (i dont have every single free****of course)

yeah, so EM changed his ways, so couldn't em have done the same thing with subliminal dissing? lol

possibly yes, im still not sure if that was a hit, i mean Cashis' EP which he knew wouldnt be huge or anything seems the wrong time to do it.

not really, Cashis is west coast, and cool with 50, who is the only west coast dude that is not cool with 50...that's right GAME

meh, you are overthinking it, but if you are right congratulations, why dont we ask him, next time we see him.

lol yeah, if Em wanted it out in the open he would have just said Game's name :| Game has no quams with dissing people down with 50...dude went on a rampage dissing philly artist cool with Jay when him and Jay almost got into a beef.

Diden't the young guns (chris and that other kid) diss him first.

I'm talking about Cassidy mostly (he dissed Cass on the radio here and then imediatley started messing with Cyssero who is basically a cassidy rip-off) and he dissed the young guns first on the radio here, someone asked him about the young guns and he said **** them and called them a bunch of ish.

I thought the young guns started that but i geuss i got it wrong. But Palm Piolet (withkatt williams) isstill a good diss in my opinion.

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#98 Apocalypse33
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[QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="Apocalypse33"][QUOTE="fat_rob"]

also, this diss to you know who

Meanwhile, we got a war going on of our own/
At home, my **** mines blown/
Tryna figure out how to fight my own clone/
Rhinestones look so nice, they shine so bright/
Especially at night, after a bit of ecstacy aint that right/ Rooooo(yyy)

fat_rob
i knew about that, but he doesnt say it because he respects Royce, the whole D12-Royce thing was stupid to begin with, i want more Bad Meets Evil.

still a subliminal diss, something you said em never used to do...

not a diss, he stops himself, he was about to say the name (not subliminal) and catches himself, it was more of a "im gonna sit this one out" than a diss

do you even know what subliminal means, it's a diss directed at someone, but the name isn't attached. the diss is still present, the person on the recieving end is just not mentioned. He wasn't cathing himself, just sending a jab towards Royce, emcee's do it all the time. One of the better aspects of the Nas and Jay diss is the subliminals that lead up to it.

i know what a subliminal is, i took from that he almost entered the beef but stayed out, D-12 has stated in interviews that Em didnt want any part of that beef

people state lots of things in interviews, fact is, Em said in the song that he was trying to figure out how to battle his onw clone (Royce), if Em wanted no parts of the beef, why would he spend time trying to figure out how to battle his own Royce

he didnt battle royce...that Royyyy... is the closest thing to beefing with him, hell How Come was asking Royce why they werent cool.
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Hey yo! I think this is the longest convo that Rob and Apoc has had ever on Eminem...

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#100 Apocalypse33
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Hey yo! I think this is the longest convo that Rob and Apoc has had ever on Eminem...

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