Fruity Loops Studio Tutorial (**New** John Legend remake!)

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[QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="gtarules42"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="gtarules42"][QUOTE="I-Own"]Wow, this thread really took a wrong turn. :|gtarules42

:lol: i agree... first 10 posts or so were to help people, but it's already a flame war, look OG, you're right i did start a flame war with you and it was hipocritical for the most part, but i started this ONE flame war to make you stop the billions of others that you'll end up starting or adding onto for the rest of the time you spend on these forums.

How the **** does a flamewar help someone stop making flamewars?

cause the posts made in the flame war will get the message to him that he's constantly starting or adding onto flame wars. like i said before, i know it's hipocritical, but it needs to be done. he needs to know that he starts too many fame wars.

okay but next time PM him or some **** and don't turn a thread like this into a flame war.

i was hoping that some people may agree with me that he's adding to the flame war here. cause if i PMed him he'd just deny it or something. but anyway, who knows, who cares, it's over, i'm spent. let's stop this, eh? :D

Well that backfired, and in all honesty Ithe only time I've seen OG flame was just now. He doesn't flame a massive amount here and if he does at other boards, keep that **** there.
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[QUOTE="gtarules42"][QUOTE="fat_rob"][QUOTE="gtarules42"][QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="gtarules42"][QUOTE="I-Own"]Wow, this thread really took a wrong turn. :|fat_rob

:lol: i agree... first 10 posts or so were to help people, but it's already a flame war, look OG, you're right i did start a flame war with you and it was hipocritical for the most part, but i started this ONE flame war to make you stop the billions of others that you'll end up starting or adding onto for the rest of the time you spend on these forums.

How the **** does a flamewar help someone stop making flamewars?

cause the posts made in the flame war will get the message to him that he's constantly starting or adding onto flame wars. like i said before, i know it's hipocritical, but it needs to be done. he needs to know that he starts too many fame wars.

okay but next time PM him or some **** and don't turn a thread like this into a flame war.

i was hoping that some people may agree with me that he's adding to the flame war here. cause if i PMed him he'd just deny it or something. but anyway, who knows, who cares, it's over, i'm spent. let's stop this, eh? :D

Well that backfired, and in all honesty Ithe only time I've seen OG flame was just now. He doesn't flame a massive amount here and if he does at other boards, keep that **** there.

kk, it's done now. i'll stick to pwning him in the NFU :P

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#53 I-Own
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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.IsThisIt_basic

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

I don't see anybody talking about how great your beats are the way they do with WorstGameEver and DaDukies. Hell, barely anyone even replies to your beat threads.

And I don't currently own any beat-making programs, so I can't post anything. (As I've said a number of times) I'm going to be moving and buying a new computer somewhere at the end of summer or beginning of fall, so it doesn't pay for me to put down the money now, but when I do get a new computer I'll be buying some stuff, and I'll post my stuff then.

Besides, I'm not claiming to be that great of a beat-maker. All I'm saying is you do a lot of hating and put down alot of programs when your own beats don't really reflect the same level of quality. Be able to back-up what you say.

First of all WTF are you telling people how to use a program you don't own. Second, why are you dissing my beats when you have NONE.

You just said for me to BACK UP what I say, well guess what, WGB USES Reason, and you have no beats to back up your talk. Double ownage.

BTW, here is a few of my beats http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=381075

I don't even put my good stuff in because they are either under license or in the process of being copywritten.

Chill out.

I don't know how I'm owned by the fact that WGE uses Reason. Reason's a great program, as is Cubase, Logic, and all those others. Use them if you can afford them. All I'm trying to say is that you try to come off as being better than an FL user for making beats with Reason. Now, when it's someone who's skilled in beat-making, of course their beats will sound better in Reason. If you know how to make beats, choosing programs is pretty much a matter of which one can get you the best sound for your beat, and as Reason is a more advanced program, of course you'll get a better sound out of it. But, to me, it doesn't really sound like you're a good enough beat-maker that it matters whether you're making them on FL or Reason.

And why shouldn't I make a demo of FL if I only have the demo? I'm not trying to sell people FL or anything. Alot of people here are just curious about beat-making and would like to try their hand at it - and FL is a good, free way for them to do that. Would you rather they went out and spent $1,000 on Apple Logic and found out "hey, I guess beat making isn't really for me"?

Dude the problem lies in the fact that FL is primarily a program for techno, not hip hop. I have Cubase as well, and it's good for certain things, but honestly the best stuff for straight Hip Hop is Reason, an MPC, or a workstation synth.

That's why I don't get it when I see so many talking about using FL for Hip Hop, i've never heard any good Rap beats on FL (i've heard good techno ones though).

Also, I guess I don't get why you made a big thread about it.

But it looks rather comprehensive and informative, so good job.

However FL is NOT a very good music program at all, it is essentially a 100 dollar toy compared to most programs. That's simply a fact. You call this thread "Beginner's Guide" when FL is essentially a beginners music program in itself. I remember pretty much learning the ins and outs, including creating parimeters for my owns sounds, in a day or two, and then after that I quickly realized that I would not be able to achieve the sound I wanted with that program.

FL is also kinda terrible if you use samples.

Oh and WHY THE HELL do you keep saying i'm not a good beatmaker? Unless you have work to show me RIGHT FREAKIN NOW, then STFU.

Hey man, calm down about the beats. I'm not even trying to stress that; it has more to do with the programs; you make it sound as if your beats are better for having been made in Reason, when I don't really hear anything that couldn't have been done in Fruity Loops. It's not about the beats; it's about the programs.

And yes, I'm aware of FL's limitations. I mention it all the time; I'm sure I even mentioned it a couple times in the guide itself. However, the bottom line is that it's free, and you can make good music on it. Isn't that reason enough for people to use it and for information to be written about it?

Besides, while FL may not exactly lend itself to hip-hop creation so much, I'm having a difficult time thinking of just what aspects of beat-making it isn't capable of. It already comes pre-loaded with tons of iconic hip-hop sounds, from the kick drums to recent favorites like steel drums to classics like clavs and moogs ... really, pretty much all the sounds you need are there, and you can always download others. You can come up with tons of different quantinizations and feels, do triplets for southern rap, gate synths, arpeggiate chords ... on and on; it really is capable of just about anything you'd need, and even if it isn't in the most straight-forward fashion, it IS free.

And I don't know how you can say you've never heard good rap beats made with FL Studio; unless you think 9th Wonder is a bad producer :?

9th Wonder uses the same drum loop on EVERY SONG. He's good though. However i'm sorry dude, but Fruity Loops is a great program for beginners, nothing more.

And the reason I got upset is because you straight dissed my beats 3 times for no reason. Then I asked that if you are SO good, and know so much about FL then why don't you share your beats, and you coughed up a couple excuses.

Fruity Loops works great if you've COMPLETELY mastered the program (9th Wonder). ANd FL is great if it's all you have.

Any beat in FL would sound better if done in Reason or a greater program, period. FL is a toy.

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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.IsThisIt_basic

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

I don't see anybody talking about how great your beats are the way they do with WorstGameEver and DaDukies. Hell, barely anyone even replies to your beat threads.

And I don't currently own any beat-making programs, so I can't post anything. (As I've said a number of times) I'm going to be moving and buying a new computer somewhere at the end of summer or beginning of fall, so it doesn't pay for me to put down the money now, but when I do get a new computer I'll be buying some stuff, and I'll post my stuff then.

Besides, I'm not claiming to be that great of a beat-maker. All I'm saying is you do a lot of hating and put down alot of programs when your own beats don't really reflect the same level of quality. Be able to back-up what you say.

First of all WTF are you telling people how to use a program you don't own. Second, why are you dissing my beats when you have NONE.

You just said for me to BACK UP what I say, well guess what, WGB USES Reason, and you have no beats to back up your talk. Double ownage.

BTW, here is a few of my beats http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=381075

I don't even put my good stuff in because they are either under license or in the process of being copywritten.

Chill out.

I don't know how I'm owned by the fact that WGE uses Reason. Reason's a great program, as is Cubase, Logic, and all those others. Use them if you can afford them. All I'm trying to say is that you try to come off as being better than an FL user for making beats with Reason. Now, when it's someone who's skilled in beat-making, of course their beats will sound better in Reason. If you know how to make beats, choosing programs is pretty much a matter of which one can get you the best sound for your beat, and as Reason is a more advanced program, of course you'll get a better sound out of it. But, to me, it doesn't really sound like you're a good enough beat-maker that it matters whether you're making them on FL or Reason.

And why shouldn't I make a demo of FL if I only have the demo? I'm not trying to sell people FL or anything. Alot of people here are just curious about beat-making and would like to try their hand at it - and FL is a good, free way for them to do that. Would you rather they went out and spent $1,000 on Apple Logic and found out "hey, I guess beat making isn't really for me"?



To counter WGE using Reason, all you have to say is that 9th Wonder uses Fruity Loops ;) Come on, that would have been the first thing I thought of

LMAO I forgot about that. He would still be better with better software and hardware.

Well, he must not need that much help if his group landed a major label contract and he's got to producer beats for major-label artists like Jay-Z and Destiny's Child.

He himself said that he only uses it because he's used to it, and he started using it because he had no money. So I guess if that's your situation then go for it. Most kenyan marathon runners start out barefoot. :|
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[QUOTE="gtarules42"]

i was hoping that some people may agree with me that he's adding to the flame war here. cause if i PMed him he'd just deny it or something. but anyway, who knows, who cares, it's over, i'm spent. let's stop this, eh? :Dfat_rob

Well that backfired, and in all honesty Ithe only time I've seen OG flame was just now. He doesn't flame a massive amount here and if he does at other boards, keep that **** there.

Amen rob.

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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.I-Own

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

I don't see anybody talking about how great your beats are the way they do with WorstGameEver and DaDukies. Hell, barely anyone even replies to your beat threads.

And I don't currently own any beat-making programs, so I can't post anything. (As I've said a number of times) I'm going to be moving and buying a new computer somewhere at the end of summer or beginning of fall, so it doesn't pay for me to put down the money now, but when I do get a new computer I'll be buying some stuff, and I'll post my stuff then.

Besides, I'm not claiming to be that great of a beat-maker. All I'm saying is you do a lot of hating and put down alot of programs when your own beats don't really reflect the same level of quality. Be able to back-up what you say.

First of all WTF are you telling people how to use a program you don't own. Second, why are you dissing my beats when you have NONE.

You just said for me to BACK UP what I say, well guess what, WGB USES Reason, and you have no beats to back up your talk. Double ownage.

BTW, here is a few of my beats http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=381075

I don't even put my good stuff in because they are either under license or in the process of being copywritten.

Chill out.

I don't know how I'm owned by the fact that WGE uses Reason. Reason's a great program, as is Cubase, Logic, and all those others. Use them if you can afford them. All I'm trying to say is that you try to come off as being better than an FL user for making beats with Reason. Now, when it's someone who's skilled in beat-making, of course their beats will sound better in Reason. If you know how to make beats, choosing programs is pretty much a matter of which one can get you the best sound for your beat, and as Reason is a more advanced program, of course you'll get a better sound out of it. But, to me, it doesn't really sound like you're a good enough beat-maker that it matters whether you're making them on FL or Reason.

And why shouldn't I make a demo of FL if I only have the demo? I'm not trying to sell people FL or anything. Alot of people here are just curious about beat-making and would like to try their hand at it - and FL is a good, free way for them to do that. Would you rather they went out and spent $1,000 on Apple Logic and found out "hey, I guess beat making isn't really for me"?



To counter WGE using Reason, all you have to say is that 9th Wonder uses Fruity Loops ;) Come on, that would have been the first thing I thought of

LMAO I forgot about that. He would still be better with better software and hardware.

Well, he must not need that much help if his group landed a major label contract and he's got to producer beats for major-label artists like Jay-Z and Destiny's Child.

He himself said that he only uses it because he's used to it, and he started using it because he had no money. So I guess if that's your situation then go for it. Most kenyan marathon runners start out barefoot. :|

That pretty much what I've been getting at all along. Most of us aren't exactly in a position to go dropping anywhere from $300-$1,000 on music software, especially when alot of us are new to it and just want to give it a shot and not owe anything if it doesn't work out for us. Not good at the FL Demo? Then just quit using it, no harm done. I don't see any reason why someone shouldn't at least try out FL.

And then, as you said above, and as 9th Wonder proves, anyone who puts in the effort can create great beats with FL Studio. And I'd say that if I create a great beat with a $100 program, I'm doing alright.

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:? Umm yeah, anyways...

EXCELLENT guide ITI. I had no idea there were so many other instruments under the "Plugin Presents" :o ... And I actually took the time to follow everything you said on your tutorial, and that walkthrough to that one beat you made is really good.

Can't wait for the next version :)

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:? Umm yeah, anyways...

EXCELLENT guide ITI. I had no idea there were so many other instruments under the "Plugin Presents" :o ... And I actually took the time to follow everything you said on your tutorial, and that walkthrough to that one beat you made is really good.

Can't wait for the next version :)

HighRoGlyFix

haha, yeah, It was a long time before I noticed those as well.

And it's cool to hear someone tried out the walkthrough. I was hoping I explained that clear enough =).

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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.I-Own

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

word iti .... he needs to change his name to "i blow " cuz hes doesnt own a damn thang.u shouldnt be critictical about anyone with yo wack beats .... .... takin shots at my boy iti...

anyways , thanks iti ...i just got off work and im tired as hell. when i have some spare time and feel relaxed im going to work with fruity loops...i appreciate all the hard work u put in to help noobs like me out ....
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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.Lakersman2000

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

word iti .... he needs to change his name to "i blow " cuz hes doesnt own a damn thang. .... takin shots at my boy iti...

Dude this got cleared up already, awhile ago. :|
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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.Lakersman2000

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

word iti .... he needs to change his name to "i blow " cuz hes doesnt own a damn thang.u shouldnt be critictical about anyone with yo wack beats .... .... takin shots at my boy iti...

For some reason, I just laughed my ass off when I read that.

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Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

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Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

WorstGameEver
Do you play the guitar?
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[QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

I-Own

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

WorstGameEver

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

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[QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

I-Own

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

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Great job on this Guide.

And to add to that, flame on....

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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

WorstGameEver

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

Yeah they sound good. Some time I yearn for that nice soul sound you get from those samples. I'm trying to emulate it but those things are classics man.
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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

WorstGameEver

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

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Great job on the guide ITI.:) I'll have to try some of the things you mentioned and see if they help me with my beats. I've already found the little equalizer tip that you gave to be useful. Before reading your guide, when I was looking at the mixer I had no idea wtf the equalizer thing did and why there was three different sliders for it......but now I do so thanks.:)

On another note, it's unfortunate that this thread turned into a flame war. Hopefully, it's finally stopped because ITI made this thread for the purpose of helping people out with FL and not for people to start bashing each other over what beat programs are best and who's beats suck, etc. Just enjoy ITI's guide and stop with the pointless flaming.
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[QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

HighRoGlyFix

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

If you haven't checked it out yet, this site is pretty helpful in getting an idea of what to look for: http://www.the-breaks.com/.

And that also reminded me, I was going to do (I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in the Beginner or Intermediate section) a list of like the top 10 most important samples in rap. I'll have to include that some time soon; everybody should try working with stuff like The Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and (drawing a blank for the artist) "Take Me to Mardi Gras".

I myself don't really work with samples. Some people do amazing things with samples, and I think that's great. But on the other hand (and this has especially come in the wake of Kanye West's popularity), sampling has also given tons of kids the excuse to make a track with some drums and some string sample and think they're hot $#@*. And beyond that, the problem I have with samples is that, ultimately, you're a slave to your source material - you're pretty much limited to what's there in the sample, and you can't really do much to change it. I feel that if I can learn to recreate those sounds, then I have a much larger arsenal, as a producer. Of course, this route is a much more difficult one ... I've spent years making beats from scratch, but someone who's been making beats with samples for only a couple months can probably make something almost as good. It's starting to pay off, though ... I'm getting pretty good, imo.

Oh, and as for recommendations, if you're going for more soulful stuff, Isaac Hayes might be good sample material. And if you're going for something a little bit more funky, buy a James Brown record. The man's music is pretty much the building blocks which rap's sound has been built on; and beyond that, I'd say he's probably the most important man in the last 50 years of music. Awesome stuff. I also think I might do a bit in the "Intermediate" section on how to create a beat using samples from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

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[QUOTE="HighRoGlyFix"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

IsThisIt_basic

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

If you haven't checked it out yet, this site is pretty helpful in getting an idea of what to look for: http://www.the-breaks.com/.

And that also reminded me, I was going to do (I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in the Beginner or Intermediate section) a list of like the top 10 most important samples in rap. I'll have to include that some time soon; everybody should try working with stuff like The Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and (drawing a blank for the artist) "Take Me to Mardi Gras".

I myself don't really work with samples. Some people do amazing things with samples, and I think that's great. But on the other hand (and this has especially come in the wake of Kanye West's popularity), sampling has also given tons of kids the excuse to make a track with some drums and some string sample and think they're hot $#@*. And beyond that, the problem I have with samples is that, ultimately, you're a slave to your source material - you're pretty much limited to what's there in the sample, and you can't really do much to change it. I feel that if I can learn to recreate those sounds, then I have a much larger arsenal, as a producer. Of course, this route is a much more difficult one ... I've spent years making beats from scratch, but someone who's been making beats with samples for only a couple months can probably make something almost as good. It's starting to pay off, though ... I'm getting pretty good, imo.

Oh, and as for recommendations, if you're going for more soulful stuff, Isaac Hayes might be good sample material. And if you're going for something a little bit more funky, buy a James Brown record. The man's music is pretty much the building blocks which rap's sound has been built on; and beyond that, I'd say he's probably the most important man in the last 50 years of music. Awesome stuff. I also think I might do a bit in the "Intermediate" section on how to create a beat using samples from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

best sample ever is still fly , that gilliagan island sample owns (technically is it considered a sample ?) ... i dont care what anybody thinks ... thats easily one of the best beats ever ...
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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="HighRoGlyFix"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

Lakersman2000

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

If you haven't checked it out yet, this site is pretty helpful in getting an idea of what to look for: http://www.the-breaks.com/.

And that also reminded me, I was going to do (I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in the Beginner or Intermediate section) a list of like the top 10 most important samples in rap. I'll have to include that some time soon; everybody should try working with stuff like The Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and (drawing a blank for the artist) "Take Me to Mardi Gras".

I myself don't really work with samples. Some people do amazing things with samples, and I think that's great. But on the other hand (and this has especially come in the wake of Kanye West's popularity), sampling has also given tons of kids the excuse to make a track with some drums and some string sample and think they're hot $#@*. And beyond that, the problem I have with samples is that, ultimately, you're a slave to your source material - you're pretty much limited to what's there in the sample, and you can't really do much to change it. I feel that if I can learn to recreate those sounds, then I have a much larger arsenal, as a producer. Of course, this route is a much more difficult one ... I've spent years making beats from scratch, but someone who's been making beats with samples for only a couple months can probably make something almost as good. It's starting to pay off, though ... I'm getting pretty good, imo.

Oh, and as for recommendations, if you're going for more soulful stuff, Isaac Hayes might be good sample material. And if you're going for something a little bit more funky, buy a James Brown record. The man's music is pretty much the building blocks which rap's sound has been built on; and beyond that, I'd say he's probably the most important man in the last 50 years of music. Awesome stuff. I also think I might do a bit in the "Intermediate" section on how to create a beat using samples from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

best sample ever is still fly , that gilliagan island sample owns (technically is it considered a sample ?) ... i dont care what anybody thinks ... thats easily one of the best beats ever ...

:lol: Does that song sample Gilligan's Island?

I haven't really heard that song since it was in rotation on MTV; though I almost want to go out and get it now so I can hear it since you're always raving about it.

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[QUOTE="Lakersman2000"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="HighRoGlyFix"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

IsThisIt_basic

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

If you haven't checked it out yet, this site is pretty helpful in getting an idea of what to look for: http://www.the-breaks.com/.

And that also reminded me, I was going to do (I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in the Beginner or Intermediate section) a list of like the top 10 most important samples in rap. I'll have to include that some time soon; everybody should try working with stuff like The Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and (drawing a blank for the artist) "Take Me to Mardi Gras".

I myself don't really work with samples. Some people do amazing things with samples, and I think that's great. But on the other hand (and this has especially come in the wake of Kanye West's popularity), sampling has also given tons of kids the excuse to make a track with some drums and some string sample and think they're hot $#@*. And beyond that, the problem I have with samples is that, ultimately, you're a slave to your source material - you're pretty much limited to what's there in the sample, and you can't really do much to change it. I feel that if I can learn to recreate those sounds, then I have a much larger arsenal, as a producer. Of course, this route is a much more difficult one ... I've spent years making beats from scratch, but someone who's been making beats with samples for only a couple months can probably make something almost as good. It's starting to pay off, though ... I'm getting pretty good, imo.

Oh, and as for recommendations, if you're going for more soulful stuff, Isaac Hayes might be good sample material. And if you're going for something a little bit more funky, buy a James Brown record. The man's music is pretty much the building blocks which rap's sound has been built on; and beyond that, I'd say he's probably the most important man in the last 50 years of music. Awesome stuff. I also think I might do a bit in the "Intermediate" section on how to create a beat using samples from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

best sample ever is still fly , that gilliagan island sample owns (technically is it considered a sample ?) ... i dont care what anybody thinks ... thats easily one of the best beats ever ...

:lol: Does that song sample Gilligan's Island?

I haven't really heard that song since it was in rotation on MTV; though I almost want to go out and get it now so I can hear it since you're always raving about it.

im not sure ull love as much as i do seeing as how u have the weirdest taste of anyone i know ... mannie fresh is a very good producer imo , his problem is he has too much trash ..... hes quantity over quality imo . but he plenty of diamonds imho .... shine( my 2nd fav beat by him)

the first time i heard still fly i literally got instant wood .... as we all know the lyrics are meh , but that song never got stale on me. its still crispy. i just love it to death ... that beat and hook is crack....

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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="HighRoGlyFix"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

Lakersman2000

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

If you haven't checked it out yet, this site is pretty helpful in getting an idea of what to look for: http://www.the-breaks.com/.

And that also reminded me, I was going to do (I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in the Beginner or Intermediate section) a list of like the top 10 most important samples in rap. I'll have to include that some time soon; everybody should try working with stuff like The Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and (drawing a blank for the artist) "Take Me to Mardi Gras".

I myself don't really work with samples. Some people do amazing things with samples, and I think that's great. But on the other hand (and this has especially come in the wake of Kanye West's popularity), sampling has also given tons of kids the excuse to make a track with some drums and some string sample and think they're hot $#@*. And beyond that, the problem I have with samples is that, ultimately, you're a slave to your source material - you're pretty much limited to what's there in the sample, and you can't really do much to change it. I feel that if I can learn to recreate those sounds, then I have a much larger arsenal, as a producer. Of course, this route is a much more difficult one ... I've spent years making beats from scratch, but someone who's been making beats with samples for only a couple months can probably make something almost as good. It's starting to pay off, though ... I'm getting pretty good, imo.

Oh, and as for recommendations, if you're going for more soulful stuff, Isaac Hayes might be good sample material. And if you're going for something a little bit more funky, buy a James Brown record. The man's music is pretty much the building blocks which rap's sound has been built on; and beyond that, I'd say he's probably the most important man in the last 50 years of music. Awesome stuff. I also think I might do a bit in the "Intermediate" section on how to create a beat using samples from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

best sample ever is still fly , that gilliagan island sample owns (technically is it considered a sample ?) ... i dont care what anybody thinks ... thats easily one of the best beats ever ...

Are you talking about the opening theme song for Gilliagans Island?... I don't recall that song being sampled :? ... But yeah, the beat is dope as hell. The horns during the chorus totally hypnotize me when I hear them. And all those little melodies in the song keep it fresh for each listen... I learn something new with the beat everytime I hear it, it's crazy.

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Like Timbaland, Mannie suffers from putting out great beats to horrible mc's. And like The Neptunes, when Mannie really started getting big, yeah, I'd say he came out with too much stuff too quick, and it all sounded a little too similar. But also like the Neptunes, I'd say recently Mannie has slowed down his output, and the majority of his stuff has been tight lately. I've definetely got respect for the dude and his beats.

And, yeah, I guess I do have pretty weird taste ... I guess, the bottom line for me, in all types of music, is that it has to move me. If it doesn't move me in some way (physically, emotionally, whatever), I don't got time for it.

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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="Lakersman2000"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="HighRoGlyFix"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="WorstGameEver"]

Just to clear some things up, My name is WGE not WGB (:lol: sorry I had to bring that up), and a majority of the beats on my soundclick page were made using Fruity Loops, execpt my Ether remix...which can be found here http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=366289 (just a senseless plug), and I also try to use both program Fruity Loops and Reason as much as I can to maximize the quality of the music I love. I'm not sure if in a couple of years I'll even be using software, hell, I'd love to have hardware like, samplers, drum machines, keyboards, the fact is I don't have money for that **** right now. In a couple of years I plan to go to a College with a Recording Arts program, and learn how to run a studio and the like. I really wanna do this for a living. And yo, ITI, nice guide, although I knew...well alright all of it, and then some, it's good. I-Own just keeping doin what your doing, I don't think your beats are bad, just keep making em, if you love it, it never matters what other people say.

Lakersman2000

Do you play the guitar?

yes, somewhat...why?

Just wondering, it seems your very into samples, all I do is original.

yea I am, I'm trying really hard to steer away from that...that's what I did with the Ether Remix.

I'd love to work with samples more often, but I just can't find the right songs. Most of the time I need a song with no drum-pattern in the background, with a catchy melody with no vocals (unless I want to sample vocals)... Anyone wanna suggest anything? i usually check out some of those piano or violin solos, but I don't know anything about that ish

If you haven't checked it out yet, this site is pretty helpful in getting an idea of what to look for: http://www.the-breaks.com/.

And that also reminded me, I was going to do (I'm not sure if it was supposed to be in the Beginner or Intermediate section) a list of like the top 10 most important samples in rap. I'll have to include that some time soon; everybody should try working with stuff like The Incredible Bongo Band's "Apache" and (drawing a blank for the artist) "Take Me to Mardi Gras".

I myself don't really work with samples. Some people do amazing things with samples, and I think that's great. But on the other hand (and this has especially come in the wake of Kanye West's popularity), sampling has also given tons of kids the excuse to make a track with some drums and some string sample and think they're hot $#@*. And beyond that, the problem I have with samples is that, ultimately, you're a slave to your source material - you're pretty much limited to what's there in the sample, and you can't really do much to change it. I feel that if I can learn to recreate those sounds, then I have a much larger arsenal, as a producer. Of course, this route is a much more difficult one ... I've spent years making beats from scratch, but someone who's been making beats with samples for only a couple months can probably make something almost as good. It's starting to pay off, though ... I'm getting pretty good, imo.

Oh, and as for recommendations, if you're going for more soulful stuff, Isaac Hayes might be good sample material. And if you're going for something a little bit more funky, buy a James Brown record. The man's music is pretty much the building blocks which rap's sound has been built on; and beyond that, I'd say he's probably the most important man in the last 50 years of music. Awesome stuff. I also think I might do a bit in the "Intermediate" section on how to create a beat using samples from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

best sample ever is still fly , that gilliagan island sample owns (technically is it considered a sample ?) ... i dont care what anybody thinks ... thats easily one of the best beats ever ...

:lol: Does that song sample Gilligan's Island?

I haven't really heard that song since it was in rotation on MTV; though I almost want to go out and get it now so I can hear it since you're always raving about it.

im not sure ull love as much as i do seeing as how u have the weirdest taste of anyone i know ... mannie fresh is a very good producer imo , his problem is he has too much trash ..... hes quantity over quality imo . but he plenty of diamonds imho .... shine( my 2nd fav beat by him)

the first time i heard still fly i literally got instant wood .... as we all know the lyrics are meh , but that song never got stale on me. its still crispy. i just love it to death ... that beat and hook is crack....


"Shine" was joint back in like 7th-8th grade:lol:.....From my head down to my shoes, skiiiiiirtin on 22's! That beat was fire

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This thread has got me to bump these joints at the moment :)

Lil Wayne feat. Hot Boys- "Shine"
Big Tymers- "Still Fly"
Cash Money Millionaires- "Project B****
B.G. feat Hot Boys- "Bling Bling"

:lol: Cash Money beats were the ish back in the day

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This thread has got me to bump these joints at the moment :)

Lil Wayne feat. Hot Boys- "Shine"
Big Tymers- "Still Fly"
Cash Money Millionaires- "Project B****
B.G. feat Hot Boys- "Bling Bling"

:lol: Cash Money beats were the ish back in the day

Orlando_Magic
Agreed.

Like LM was saying....Still Fly is such a hot beat. I actually think I have that album on bootleg from a while ago :lol: I should go look for it.

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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]This thread has got me to bump these joints at the moment :)

Lil Wayne feat. Hot Boys- "Shine"
Big Tymers- "Still Fly"
Cash Money Millionaires- "Project B****
B.G. feat Hot Boys- "Bling Bling"

:lol: Cash Money beats were the ish back in the day

Colt45fool

Agreed.

Like LM was saying....Still Fly is such a hot beat. I actually think I have that album on bootleg from a while ago :lol: I should go look for it.



#1 Stunna, We On Fire, The Block is Hot, I Need a Hot Girl, Baller Blockin, Get Off The Corner, Get Your Roll On, Csh Money is An Army, Hennessy and XTC, It's In Me, Ha, Back That Ass Up, I Got that Fire, U Understand, Set It Off, Mamma Got Ass, etc

I could go on for days of bangers Fresh produced...just from singles. His older stuff is crazy...I'm not as big a fan of his newer stuff though. Word.

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[QUOTE="Colt45fool"]

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]This thread has got me to bump these joints at the moment :)

Lil Wayne feat. Hot Boys- "Shine"
Big Tymers- "Still Fly"
Cash Money Millionaires- "Project B****
B.G. feat Hot Boys- "Bling Bling"

:lol: Cash Money beats were the ish back in the day

Orlando_Magic

Agreed.

Like LM was saying....Still Fly is such a hot beat. I actually think I have that album on bootleg from a while ago :lol: I should go look for it.



#1 Stunna, We On Fire, The Block is Hot, I Need a Hot Girl, Baller Blockin, Get Off The Corner, Get Your Roll On, Csh Money is An Army, Hennessy and XTC, It's In Me, Ha, Back That Ass Up, I Got that Fire, U Understand, Set It Off, Mamma Got Ass, etc

I could go on for days of bangers Fresh produced...just from singles. His older stuff is crazy...I'm not as big a fan of his newer stuff though. Word.

Agreed.....he's being stretched out too much over at Cash Money....being the only producer over there.
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I was addicted to Baby's album for a while because of the beats. "Hustlers,Pimps,And Thugs" is the best song on there.
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[QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.IsThisIt_basic

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

I don't see anybody talking about how great your beats are the way they do with WorstGameEver and DaDukies. Hell, barely anyone even replies to your beat threads.

And I don't currently own any beat-making programs, so I can't post anything. (As I've said a number of times) I'm going to be moving and buying a new computer somewhere at the end of summer or beginning of fall, so it doesn't pay for me to put down the money now, but when I do get a new computer I'll be buying some stuff, and I'll post my stuff then.

Besides, I'm not claiming to be that great of a beat-maker. All I'm saying is you do a lot of hating and put down alot of programs when your own beats don't really reflect the same level of quality. Be able to back-up what you say.

First of all WTF are you telling people how to use a program you don't own. Second, why are you dissing my beats when you have NONE.

You just said for me to BACK UP what I say, well guess what, WGB USES Reason, and you have no beats to back up your talk. Double ownage.

BTW, here is a few of my beats http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=381075

I don't even put my good stuff in because they are either under license or in the process of being copywritten.

Chill out.

I don't know how I'm owned by the fact that WGE uses Reason. Reason's a great program, as is Cubase, Logic, and all those others. Use them if you can afford them. All I'm trying to say is that you try to come off as being better than an FL user for making beats with Reason. Now, when it's someone who's skilled in beat-making, of course their beats will sound better in Reason. If you know how to make beats, choosing programs is pretty much a matter of which one can get you the best sound for your beat, and as Reason is a more advanced program, of course you'll get a better sound out of it. But, to me, it doesn't really sound like you're a good enough beat-maker that it matters whether you're making them on FL or Reason.

And why shouldn't I make a demo of FL if I only have the demo? I'm not trying to sell people FL or anything. Alot of people here are just curious about beat-making and would like to try their hand at it - and FL is a good, free way for them to do that. Would you rather they went out and spent $1,000 on Apple Logic and found out "hey, I guess beat making isn't really for me"?



To counter WGE using Reason, all you have to say is that 9th Wonder uses Fruity Loops ;) Come on, that would have been the first thing I thought of

LMAO I forgot about that. He would still be better with better software and hardware.

Well, he must not need that much help if his group landed a major label contract and he's got to producer beats for major-label artists like Jay-Z and Destiny's Child.



THe thing about 9nth's Wonder's beats for the most part is that to the casual ear, they are amazing. But when you have the ear of a producer, they're not all that great. Nevermind, its not that they aren't great, its the fact that they aren't as brilliant.
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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.murdamuzik

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

I don't see anybody talking about how great your beats are the way they do with WorstGameEver and DaDukies. Hell, barely anyone even replies to your beat threads.

And I don't currently own any beat-making programs, so I can't post anything. (As I've said a number of times) I'm going to be moving and buying a new computer somewhere at the end of summer or beginning of fall, so it doesn't pay for me to put down the money now, but when I do get a new computer I'll be buying some stuff, and I'll post my stuff then.

Besides, I'm not claiming to be that great of a beat-maker. All I'm saying is you do a lot of hating and put down alot of programs when your own beats don't really reflect the same level of quality. Be able to back-up what you say.

First of all WTF are you telling people how to use a program you don't own. Second, why are you dissing my beats when you have NONE.

You just said for me to BACK UP what I say, well guess what, WGB USES Reason, and you have no beats to back up your talk. Double ownage.

BTW, here is a few of my beats http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=381075

I don't even put my good stuff in because they are either under license or in the process of being copywritten.

Chill out.

I don't know how I'm owned by the fact that WGE uses Reason. Reason's a great program, as is Cubase, Logic, and all those others. Use them if you can afford them. All I'm trying to say is that you try to come off as being better than an FL user for making beats with Reason. Now, when it's someone who's skilled in beat-making, of course their beats will sound better in Reason. If you know how to make beats, choosing programs is pretty much a matter of which one can get you the best sound for your beat, and as Reason is a more advanced program, of course you'll get a better sound out of it. But, to me, it doesn't really sound like you're a good enough beat-maker that it matters whether you're making them on FL or Reason.

And why shouldn't I make a demo of FL if I only have the demo? I'm not trying to sell people FL or anything. Alot of people here are just curious about beat-making and would like to try their hand at it - and FL is a good, free way for them to do that. Would you rather they went out and spent $1,000 on Apple Logic and found out "hey, I guess beat making isn't really for me"?



To counter WGE using Reason, all you have to say is that 9th Wonder uses Fruity Loops ;) Come on, that would have been the first thing I thought of

LMAO I forgot about that. He would still be better with better software and hardware.

Well, he must not need that much help if his group landed a major label contract and he's got to producer beats for major-label artists like Jay-Z and Destiny's Child.



THe thing about 9nth's Wonder's beats for the most part is that to the casual ear, they are amazing. But when you have the ear of a producer, they're not all that great. Nevermind, its not that they aren't great, its the fact that they aren't as brilliant.



So Pete Rock and ?uestlove don't have ears of a producer then?
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Good this got bumped. I recently started trying to use FL again. This program is weak, it's only good for sampling, and even in that Reason's RecYcle blows it away.

ITI has a good point when he says that either way you have to be talented. But FL is best suited for music like Techno and stuff, not really hip hop.

It's decent for sampling though, however turntables and a mixer is decent for sampling. Composing it doesn't really hold a candle to anything.

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[QUOTE="murdamuzik"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"][QUOTE="I-Own"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]

[QUOTE="I-Own"]All that writing and you forgot to mention how much FL SUCKS.Orlando_Magic

:lol: Did you ever notice how you usually get like three replies for your beat threads? Man, you need to be able to back up all the %#$@ you talk ... it doesn't matter how expensive of a program you have; if your beats suck, a $500 program isn't going to make them better.

My beats suck? BTW, where are yours? :|

I don't see anybody talking about how great your beats are the way they do with WorstGameEver and DaDukies. Hell, barely anyone even replies to your beat threads.

And I don't currently own any beat-making programs, so I can't post anything. (As I've said a number of times) I'm going to be moving and buying a new computer somewhere at the end of summer or beginning of fall, so it doesn't pay for me to put down the money now, but when I do get a new computer I'll be buying some stuff, and I'll post my stuff then.

Besides, I'm not claiming to be that great of a beat-maker. All I'm saying is you do a lot of hating and put down alot of programs when your own beats don't really reflect the same level of quality. Be able to back-up what you say.

First of all WTF are you telling people how to use a program you don't own. Second, why are you dissing my beats when you have NONE.

You just said for me to BACK UP what I say, well guess what, WGB USES Reason, and you have no beats to back up your talk. Double ownage.

BTW, here is a few of my beats http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=381075

I don't even put my good stuff in because they are either under license or in the process of being copywritten.

Chill out.

I don't know how I'm owned by the fact that WGE uses Reason. Reason's a great program, as is Cubase, Logic, and all those others. Use them if you can afford them. All I'm trying to say is that you try to come off as being better than an FL user for making beats with Reason. Now, when it's someone who's skilled in beat-making, of course their beats will sound better in Reason. If you know how to make beats, choosing programs is pretty much a matter of which one can get you the best sound for your beat, and as Reason is a more advanced program, of course you'll get a better sound out of it. But, to me, it doesn't really sound like you're a good enough beat-maker that it matters whether you're making them on FL or Reason.

And why shouldn't I make a demo of FL if I only have the demo? I'm not trying to sell people FL or anything. Alot of people here are just curious about beat-making and would like to try their hand at it - and FL is a good, free way for them to do that. Would you rather they went out and spent $1,000 on Apple Logic and found out "hey, I guess beat making isn't really for me"?



To counter WGE using Reason, all you have to say is that 9th Wonder uses Fruity Loops ;) Come on, that would have been the first thing I thought of

LMAO I forgot about that. He would still be better with better software and hardware.

Well, he must not need that much help if his group landed a major label contract and he's got to producer beats for major-label artists like Jay-Z and Destiny's Child.



THe thing about 9nth's Wonder's beats for the most part is that to the casual ear, they are amazing. But when you have the ear of a producer, they're not all that great. Nevermind, its not that they aren't great, its the fact that they aren't as brilliant.



So Pete Rock and ?uestlove don't have ears of a producer then?



No, I'm not sayign that. I'm saying that in their ears it doesn't sound nearly as good as it does on a casual's ear.
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Is there a program that will let you take the instrumental version of one song and play the acapella version of another on top of it? Then be able to save it and burn to cd? Any help is appreciated. I have been wondering this for years now.
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Is there a program that will let you take the instrumental version of one song and play the acapella version of another on top of it? Then be able to save it and burn to cd? Any help is appreciated. I have been wondering this for years now.mowz00
You can do that in FL Studio. All you have to do is open up the instrumental and accapella in FL Studio (depending on the version of FL Studio you have though, you might have to convert both to wav. files first).
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[QUOTE="mowz00"]Is there a program that will let you take the instrumental version of one song and play the acapella version of another on top of it? Then be able to save it and burn to cd? Any help is appreciated. I have been wondering this for years now.MGSfan4life
You can do that in FL Studio. All you have to do is open up the instrumental and accapella in FL Studio (depending on the version of FL Studio you have though, you might have to convert both to wav. files first).



OK...cool. But I thought you couldn't save what you made in FL? and what filetype does it output if I would need to convert it to wav?

Thanks btw
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[QUOTE="MGSfan4life"][QUOTE="mowz00"]Is there a program that will let you take the instrumental version of one song and play the acapella version of another on top of it? Then be able to save it and burn to cd? Any help is appreciated. I have been wondering this for years now.mowz00
You can do that in FL Studio. All you have to do is open up the instrumental and accapella in FL Studio (depending on the version of FL Studio you have though, you might have to convert both to wav. files first).



OK...cool. But I thought you couldn't save what you made in FL? and what filetype does it output if I would need to convert it to wav?

Thanks btw

Well, if you have the demo version of FL Studio then you can't save anything unless you have the crack that allows you to save. So if that applies to you and you don't have the crack then you'll have to either find the crack, buy the full version of FL Studio, or find a different program. As for the wav. file thing.....it all depends on what version of FL you have. I'm really not sure what the newest version of FL Studio is (5.0 I think) but that version supports mp3 files so you wouldn't have to convert anything. If you have an older version then you'll need to convert both the instrumental and accapella to wav. files or otherwise they won't work when you open them up. To convert mp3 files to wav. files you can use MusicMatch or you can d/l the file converter program that ITI posted somewhere in the beginning of this thread.
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[QUOTE="mowz00"][QUOTE="MGSfan4life"][QUOTE="mowz00"]Is there a program that will let you take the instrumental version of one song and play the acapella version of another on top of it? Then be able to save it and burn to cd? Any help is appreciated. I have been wondering this for years now.MGSfan4life
You can do that in FL Studio. All you have to do is open up the instrumental and accapella in FL Studio (depending on the version of FL Studio you have though, you might have to convert both to wav. files first).



OK...cool. But I thought you couldn't save what you made in FL? and what filetype does it output if I would need to convert it to wav?

Thanks btw

Well, if you have the demo version of FL Studio then you can't save anything unless you have the crack that allows you to save. So if that applies to you and you don't have the crack then you'll have to either find the crack, buy the full version of FL Studio, or find a different program. As for the wav. file thing.....it all depends on what version of FL you have. I'm really not sure what the newest version of FL Studio is (5.0 I think) but that version supports mp3 files so you wouldn't have to convert anything. If you have an older version then you'll need to convert both the instrumental and accapella to wav. files or otherwise they won't work when you open them up. To convert mp3 files to wav. files you can use MusicMatch or you can d/l the file converter program that ITI posted somewhere in the beginning of this thread.


thanks again man...you cleared alot up for me :)
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Yeah, version 5 lets you use MP3 files as samples. I don't believe I actually posted the MP3/.wav converters in this thread, but if you still need it I can look it up (I actually haven't used it myself, but I know GZ said it worked real nice).
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Yeah, version 5 lets you use MP3 files as samples. I don't believe I actually posted the MP3/.wav converters in this thread, but if you still need it I can look it up (I actually haven't used it myself, but I know GZ said it worked real nice).IsThisIt_basic
Yeah, I thought you had posted the link in this thread but I just checked and you didn't. I think you probably posted the link in Highro's beat thread (my bad:oops: ).......anyways, I don't need the converter since I have MusicMatch and it can convert files as well.
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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]Yeah, version 5 lets you use MP3 files as samples. I don't believe I actually posted the MP3/.wav converters in this thread, but if you still need it I can look it up (I actually haven't used it myself, but I know GZ said it worked real nice).MGSfan4life
Yeah, I thought you had posted the link in this thread but I just checked and you didn't. I think you probably posted the link in Highro's beat thread (my bad:oops: ).......anyways, I don't need the converter since I have MusicMatch and it can convert files as well.

Yup, I believe that's where it's at.

I wasn't aware that MusicMatch could do that, though ...

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[QUOTE="MGSfan4life"][QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]Yeah, version 5 lets you use MP3 files as samples. I don't believe I actually posted the MP3/.wav converters in this thread, but if you still need it I can look it up (I actually haven't used it myself, but I know GZ said it worked real nice).IsThisIt_basic

Yeah, I thought you had posted the link in this thread but I just checked and you didn't. I think you probably posted the link in Highro's beat thread (my bad:oops: ).......anyways, I don't need the converter since I have MusicMatch and it can convert files as well.

Yup, I believe that's where it's at.

I wasn't aware that MusicMatch could do that, though ...

Yeah, if you have MusicMatch and you want to convert mp3 files to wav. or vice-versa then all you gotta do is click on "File" at the top and then scroll down to "Convert Files". Then you just have to search through your folders for the file(s) that you want to convert, change the destination type to whatever you want to convert to, and viola!....you're all set.
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And if I recall correctly, MusicMatch is free too, right?

Also, just as an aside, it's probably going to be quite a while until I get the whole entire "intermediate" tutorial put together, so I think I'm going to be doing installements of little "mini-tutorials" on specific things, and posting them in this thread, at least until I have the intermediate guide all complete ... the first one will probably be on using chopping and quantinization to create southern still drum patterns and rolls.

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And if I recall correctly, MusicMatch is free too, right?

Also, just as an aside, it's probably going to be quite a while until I get the whole entire "intermediate" tutorial put together, so I think I'm going to be doing installements of little "mini-tutorials" on specific things, and posting them in this thread, at least until I have the intermediate guide all complete ... the first one will probably be on using chopping and quantinization to create southern still drum patterns and rolls.

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Yup, you only have to pay for it if you want MusicMatch Plus. And I look forward to more of your tutorials man.....keep up the good work.:wink:
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#98 mowz00
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Yeah, version 5 lets you use MP3 files as samples. I don't believe I actually posted the MP3/.wav converters in this thread, but if you still need it I can look it up (I actually haven't used it myself, but I know GZ said it worked real nice).IsThisIt_basic


Appreciate it, but I already have one....I use "Yamp", its a small file and it does it all with ogg, wav and mp3. Also free.

http://www.mp3-converter.biz/yamp/

BTW, has anyone bought the FL Bible? I thought about it but I don't know if I wanna throw $30 for something like that.
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#100 IsThisIt_basic
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[QUOTE="IsThisIt_basic"]Yeah, version 5 lets you use MP3 files as samples. I don't believe I actually posted the MP3/.wav converters in this thread, but if you still need it I can look it up (I actually haven't used it myself, but I know GZ said it worked real nice).mowz00


Appreciate it, but I already have one....I use "Yamp", its a small file and it does it all with ogg, wav and mp3. Also free.

http://www.mp3-converter.biz/yamp/

BTW, has anyone bought the FL Bible? I thought about it but I don't know if I wanna throw $30 for something like that.

Nah, I haven't picked it up yet, and frankly I doubt there's much need to ... there really isn't anything about Fruity Loops you can't have answered for free just by asking around.