MTV's Top 5 Greatest MC's of All-Time (video)

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

[QUOTE="ChipmunkDeluxe"]i dont get how Jay-Z can be number one.....compared to Nas, 2pac, Biggie...how the hell is he number one of all time..what songs does he have thats better than them?? Each one of them has at least 3 songs that are better than any of Jay-Z's... He has like 5 good songs if that...but thats just my opinion. My list would go.. 1-2pac 2-Nas 3-Notorious BIG 4-Eminem (he actually used to be good..now he sucks) 5- Toss Up Between Tons of People..(including Jay-Z)
elpooz

....jigga has more than 5 good songs...many more...and hes number 1 cause mtvs commercial and they like artists with ill delivery and production which jigga has...

They must have had some idiots making that list...jigga doesent touch pac...and in my opinion he hasnt ran hip hop for the last ten years...do u forget that nas has been right along side hova...this is why mtv sucks...they think whoever drops the hottest songs are the best alive...i mean yeah jigga is one of the best...i mean hes third on my list...but hes not THE best...he could have ran hip hop for 15 years and still not touch the skill or power of pac...Theres more to rap than ure flow, or ure sales, or ne of that ish, when jigga dies what is he guna leave behind?...a bunch of ill ass music, but i bet u he regrets not being able leave behind a legacy like pac did.

LMAO weezy spreads the message the best

Hes basically a voice for the hood, he brings the reality of ghetto and hood life to the eyes of his listeners, and he brings a raspy flow never seen before, and a realness to the game, that few other mcs bring along.

and Dmx, son X brought hood life in to the game and showed every1 wat really reppin ure hood was about, and what being a g was really about, cause when he came out most mcs were tryna go along with wu tang and nwa, and tryna be on all that gangsta rap, but a lot of em were fake, X used his message to set them straight, and in a way clense gangsta rap of its fakes, and as for what he brings, and incredible flow and delivery that nearly shakes whoevers listening.

elpooz

[QUOTE="elpooz"]And em, if u were to take all his realest tracks and spread them out on to 2 albulms, ud have 2 of the greatest albulms ever made, maybe THE greatest, with the right tracks, if u look past all the whack ish hes done...hes made about the same amount of ill tracks as big Lmems1224

You dont know that, so ure point is also irrelevent.

Talib Kweli is one of my favorite rappers of all-time and I don't think he belongs anywhere near the top 10. You're telling people to listen to more Talib Kweli when I have all his albums already and been up on him before you. Seems more like you need to get some Boogie Down Productions, Kool G Rap, and Big Daddy Kane albums if you think Kweli is a greater rapper than any of them...
Orlando_Magic

I listened to 90s and 80s music for 2 years of my life, nothing else, trust me ive heard a lot of their music.

Theres more to rap than ure flow, or ure sales, or ne of that ish, when jigga dies what is he guna leave behind?...abunch of ill ass music, but i bet u he regrets not being able leave behind a legacy like pac did.

elpooz

....isn't that what matters?

KRS isnt all that great, and Rakim, his lyrics are not that great if u break them down...and andre...brings nothing new to the game, nor does he spread an actual meaningful message to any one, whats the point of music, or being able to create ill music, if u dont do nething with it?...What yall need to realize is that, its not the skill an artist has, its the way that artist uses his skill to make an impact. And club bangers dont make and impact, well not on me atleast.elpooz

[QUOTE="mems1224"][QUOTE="elpooz"]And em, if u were to take all his realest tracks and spread them out on to 2 albulms, ud have 2 of the greatest albulms ever made, maybe THE greatest, with the right tracks, if u look past all the whack ish hes done...hes made about the same amount of ill tracks as big Lelpooz

You dont know that, so ure point is also irrelevent.

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

elpooz

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]Talib Kweli is one of my favorite rappers of all-time and I don't think he belongs anywhere near the top 10. You're telling people to listen to more Talib Kweli when I have all his albums already and been up on him before you. Seems more like you need to get some Boogie Down Productions, Kool G Rap, and Big Daddy Kane albums if you think Kweli is a greater rapper than any of them...
elpooz

I listened to 90s and 80s music for 2 years of my life, nothing else, trust me ive heard a lot of their music.

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

LMAO weezy spreads the message the best

Hes basically a voice for the hood, he brings the reality of ghetto and hood life to the eyes of his listeners, and he brings a raspy flow never seen before, and a realness to the game, that few other mcs bring along.

and Dmx, son X brought hood life in to the game and showed every1 wat really reppin ure hood was about, and what being a g was really about, cause when he came out most mcs were tryna go along with wu tang and nwa, and tryna be on all that gangsta rap, but a lot of em were fake, X used his message to set them straight, and in a way clense gangsta rap of its fakes, and as for what he brings, and incredible flow and delivery that nearly shakes whoevers listening.

mems1224

No they dont, give me one line from one of these supposdley better mcs, and ill give u a better dmx or weezy line.

[QUOTE="elpooz"]

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

Orlando_Magic

Im basing his spot on his skill, not his achievements...And even if ya dont like it, he was only puttin out half of what he has in his mixtapes and his albulms, and he made him self a clear threat to most major mcs...

[QUOTE="mems1224"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

LMAO weezy spreads the message the best

Hes basically a voice for the hood, he brings the reality of ghetto and hood life to the eyes of his listeners, and he brings a raspy flow never seen before, and a realness to the game, that few other mcs bring along.

and Dmx, son X brought hood life in to the game and showed every1 wat really reppin ure hood was about, and what being a g was really about, cause when he came out most mcs were tryna go along with wu tang and nwa, and tryna be on all that gangsta rap, but a lot of em were fake, X used his message to set them straight, and in a way clense gangsta rap of its fakes, and as for what he brings, and incredible flow and delivery that nearly shakes whoevers listening.

elpooz

No they dont, give me one line from one of these supposdley better mcs, and ill give u a better dmx or weezy line.

[QUOTE="mems1224"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

LMAO weezy spreads the message the best

Hes basically a voice for the hood, he brings the reality of ghetto and hood life to the eyes of his listeners, and he brings a raspy flow never seen before, and a realness to the game, that few other mcs bring along.

and Dmx, son X brought hood life in to the game and showed every1 wat really reppin ure hood was about, and what being a g was really about, cause when he came out most mcs were tryna go along with wu tang and nwa, and tryna be on all that gangsta rap, but a lot of em were fake, X used his message to set them straight, and in a way clense gangsta rap of its fakes, and as for what he brings, and incredible flow and delivery that nearly shakes whoevers listening.

elpooz

No they dont, give me one line from one of these supposdley better mcs, and ill give u a better dmx or weezy line.

It's the Corona Queens apocalypse
My block is hit with the dark eclipse
Takin no hostages, so grab the glocks and clips
The rap's apostle-ist, n***** to Loch Ness
Large as Colossus is
Mumblin **** get shot at the esophagus
A Thug Saga novelist
Sex in this rap s*** monogamous
Rainin like the drop is while you be topicless
Blow money monopolist - do it for eons
Shinin like it's, neon - heart colder than freon
Decidin which MC to pee on;
baby cause that's the s*** that we on
N***** go to Warrick like Deion
Put the G on
I analyze guys with Montana eyes
to vandalize any man alive, soon as the hammer rise
Cut em down like samurais
Kickin that real **** that you fantasize
N***** step aside or recognize
G. the real cat, pack the steel cat, baby feel that
Leave you layin flat witcha s*** clapped and peeled back
Battle-actin rap s***'ll put you in back of a Cadillac
A bad decision; f*** up your whole vision like cataracts
Red roses on a dead foe
Layin in wet clothes from head blows
Your whole brain be exposed
Get your body torn out the frame from lead throws
None of my victims ever bled slow
Stiff as Edgar Poe, that's how it go

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

elpooz

Im basing his spot on his skill, not his achievements...And even if ya dont like it, he was only puttin out half of what he has in his mixtapes and his albulms, and he made him self a clear threat to most major mcs...

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

elpooz

Im basing his spot on his skill, not his achievements...And even if ya dont like it, he was only puttin out half of what he has in his mixtapes and his albulms, and he made him self a clear threat to most major mcs...

U choose a terrible line like that??...that doesent even speak for the hood....elpooz

Flop.

[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

mems1224

Im basing his spot on his skill, not his achievements...And even if ya dont like it, he was only puttin out half of what he has in his mixtapes and his albulms, and he made him self a clear threat to most major mcs...

Thats exactly what hes gonna do in the carter 3...

"its not the skill an artist has, its the way that artist uses his skill to make an impact"- elpooz

You said that earlier in the thread. So first you say "its not the skill an artist has" but later you change your mind and reverse your opinion saying "I'm basing his spot on skill." Can you stop contradicting yourself...
Orlando_Magic

[QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

Orlando_Magic

Im basing his spot on his skill, not his achievements...And even if ya dont like it, he was only puttin out half of what he has in his mixtapes and his albulms, and he made him self a clear threat to most major mcs...

Im not talking about making albulms im talking about him using his skill to talk to people which he does.

I feel bad for yall, a bunch of gamers who think they know about rap, i cant wait till yall get off this unions pen15 and realize that yall dont know ish.elpooz

I feel bad for yall, a bunch of gamers who think they know about rap, i cant wait till yall get off this unions pen15 and realize that yall dont know ish.elpooz

I feel bad for yall, a bunch of gamers who think they know about rap, i cant wait till yall get off this unions pen15 and realize that yall dont know ish.elpooz

I feel bad for yall, a bunch of gamers who think they know about rap, i cant wait till yall get off this unions pen15 and realize that yall dont know ish.elpooz

You should just leave then, since you obviously know more than anyone here.

I feel bad for yall, a bunch of gamers who think they know about rap, i cant wait till yall get off this unions pen15 and realize that yall dont know ish.elpooz

KRS isnt all that great, and Rakim, his lyrics are not that great if u break them down...and andre...brings nothing new to the game, nor does he spread an actual meaningful message to any one, whats the point of music, or being able to create ill music, if u dont do nething with it?...What yall need to realize is that, its not the skill an artist has, its the way that artist uses his skill to make an impact. And club bangers dont make and impact, well not on me atleast.elpooz

[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"][QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"][QUOTE="elpooz"]

...and weezy has only had 3 albulms no duh he hasnt had a classic

elpooz

Im basing his spot on his skill, not his achievements...And even if ya dont like it, he was only puttin out half of what he has in his mixtapes and his albulms, and he made him self a clear threat to most major mcs...

Im not talking about making albulms im talking about him using his skill to talk to people which he does.

Your point makes no sense, and you've already twisted your point around 3 or 4 times in this thread...

LMAO weezy spreads the message the best

Hes basically a voice for the hood, he brings the reality of ghetto and hood life to the eyes of his listeners, and he brings a raspy flow never seen before, and a realness to the game, that few other mcs bring along.

and Dmx, son X brought hood life in to the game and showed every1 wat really reppin ure hood was about, and what being a g was really about, cause when he came out most mcs were tryna go along with wu tang and nwa, and tryna be on all that gangsta rap, but a lot of em were fake, X used his message to set them straight, and in a way clense gangsta rap of its fakes, and as for what he brings, and incredible flow and delivery that nearly shakes whoevers listening.

elpooz

U choose a terrible line like that??...that doesent even speak for the hood....elpooz

[QUOTE="elpooz"]U choose a terrible line like that??...that doesent even speak for the hood....fat_rob

Am i the only one here who thinks Andre 3000 is one of the greatest emcees too. ?--n00b--

I agree. Andre's top 5 for me.

My top 5: *in no order* Nas Tupac - no-one can doubt the influence he had. Andre 3000 KRS-One and another that I cant think of. Honourable mentions for me would be Ras Kass (could be the fifth, Im not sure), BIG (although I personally hate his sound, cant deny he was good), Rakim should probably be there, but Im guilty of having not heard even paid in full...yet. Later today that should change.Eragon_11

Buy it. Now.

[QUOTE="Eragon_11"]My top 5: *in no order* Nas Tupac - no-one can doubt the influence he had. Andre 3000 KRS-One and another that I cant think of. Honourable mentions for me would be Ras Kass (could be the fifth, Im not sure), BIG (although I personally hate his sound, cant deny he was good), Rakim should probably be there, but Im guilty of having not heard even paid in full...yet. Later today that should change.laraza7682300

Buy it. Now.

[QUOTE="Scuervo"]I'm not a fan of 2pac :|Black-Demon

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="Scuervo"]I'm not a fan of 2pac :|Scuervo

thats the greatest thing ever!!

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="Scuervo"]I'm not a fan of 2pac :|Scuervo

WTF:lol:

[QUOTE="Black-Demon"][QUOTE="Scuervo"]I'm not a fan of 2pac :|Scuervo

ahahahahaha :lol:

lmfao, amazing how my top 5 rappers don't match up with that list even one bit! 1- Pharoahe Monch 2- Vakill 3- Ice Cube 4- Sean Price 5- The GZA :|

lmfao, the mtv list is pure comedy. Jay-Z isn't even top 20 material. Dude = Most overrated rapper ever.
HaSheeSh_basic

None of those 5 have an album as good as Reasonable Doubt OR The Blueprint...

Pharoahe is pimp though, but hes no jay...how the hell can you even mention vakil yet?
ice cube deserves an honourable mention cuz he had dope albums...still not RD or BP...
Sean Price is wicked too...but hes still no jay
GZA doens't even have the best wu solo album...yet alone being top 5. No one in the WU deserves top 5 status...they are better as a GROUP...not individually...take allt he guest WU spots out of their albums and it would be worse.

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]lmfao, amazing how my top 5 rappers don't match up with that list even one bit! 1- Pharoahe Monch 2- Vakill 3- Ice Cube 4- Sean Price 5- The GZA :|

lmfao, the mtv list is pure comedy. Jay-Z isn't even top 20 material. Dude = Most overrated rapper ever.
Pyro

None of those 5 have an album as good as Reasonable Doubt OR The Blueprint...

Pharoahe is pimp though, but hes no jay...how the hell can you even mention vakil yet?
ice cube deserves an honourable mention cuz he had dope albums...still not RD or BP...
Sean Price is wicked too...but hes still no jay
GZA doens't even have the best wu solo album...yet alone being top 5. No one in the WU deserves top 5 status...they are better as a GROUP...not individually...take allt he guest WU spots out of their albums and it would be worse.

[QUOTE="Pyro"]

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]lmfao, amazing how my top 5 rappers don't match up with that list even one bit! 1- Pharoahe Monch 2- Vakill 3- Ice Cube 4- Sean Price 5- The GZA :|

lmfao, the mtv list is pure comedy. Jay-Z isn't even top 20 material. Dude = Most overrated rapper ever.
HurricaneHugo

None of those 5 have an album as good as Reasonable Doubt OR The Blueprint...

Pharoahe is pimp though, but hes no jay...how the hell can you even mention vakil yet?
ice cube deserves an honourable mention cuz he had dope albums...still not RD or BP...
Sean Price is wicked too...but hes still no jay
GZA doens't even have the best wu solo album...yet alone being top 5. No one in the WU deserves top 5 status...they are better as a GROUP...not individually...take allt he guest WU spots out of their albums and it would be worse.

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]lmfao, amazing how my top 5 rappers don't match up with that list even one bit! 1- Pharoahe Monch 2- Vakill 3- Ice Cube 4- Sean Price 5- The GZA :|

lmfao, the mtv list is pure comedy. Jay-Z isn't even top 20 material. Dude = Most overrated rapper ever.
Pyro

None of those 5 have an album as good as Reasonable Doubt OR The Blueprint...

Pharoahe is pimp though, but hes no jay...how the hell can you even mention vakil yet?
ice cube deserves an honourable mention cuz he had dope albums...still not RD or BP...
Sean Price is wicked too...but hes still no jay
GZA doens't even have the best wu solo album...yet alone being top 5. No one in the WU deserves top 5 status...they are better as a GROUP...not individually...take allt he guest WU spots out of their albums and it would be worse.

[QUOTE="Pyro"]

[QUOTE="HaSheeSh_basic"]lmfao, amazing how my top 5 rappers don't match up with that list even one bit! 1- Pharoahe Monch 2- Vakill 3- Ice Cube 4- Sean Price 5- The GZA :|

lmfao, the mtv list is pure comedy. Jay-Z isn't even top 20 material. Dude = Most overrated rapper ever.
HaSheeSh_basic

None of those 5 have an album as good as Reasonable Doubt OR The Blueprint...

Pharoahe is pimp though, but hes no jay...how the hell can you even mention vakil yet?
ice cube deserves an honourable mention cuz he had dope albums...still not RD or BP...
Sean Price is wicked too...but hes still no jay
GZA doens't even have the best wu solo album...yet alone being top 5. No one in the WU deserves top 5 status...they are better as a GROUP...not individually...take allt he guest WU spots out of their albums and it would be worse.