Fixed that for you.Awesome argument.[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="RankaiOwnz"]
CANADA *silence*
BumFluff122
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Fixed that for you.Awesome argument.[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="RankaiOwnz"]
CANADA *silence*
BumFluff122
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Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield.What argument
Mercenary848
Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield.[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
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BumFluff122
That was sort of the joke, they were saying Canada does not really hae anything to be proud of. I doubt anyone means it though when they talk about Canada.
Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield. Maple Syrup for our waffles?[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
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BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Awesome argument.
l-laxor
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Entry into World War II
Canada - September, 1939
The US - December, 1941
I know
Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield.[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]
[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
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Mercenary848
I doubt anyone means it though when they talk about Canada.
No one does, some people are just way sensitive.[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield. Maple Syrup for our waffles?[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]
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AAllxxjjnn
Don't forget Hockey, and all of its brutality.
Entry into World War IICanada was obliged to go to war with Germany. :?Canada - September, 1939
The US - December, 1941
l-laxor
I read through all of that, and one thing I disagree on is that we weren't very good previous to WWII. Didn't we defeat the Spanish Armada previously to World War II, displaying our dominance at sea?
In 1588?I read through all of that, and one thing I disagree on is that we weren't very good previous to WWII. Didn't we defeat the Spanish Armada previously to World War II, displaying our dominance at sea?
Ace_WondersX
They were trying to stop the north Vietnam communists that were taking over the government there.. It marked the end of Johnson's political career, and it was a part of one of the worse United States policies ever: the idea that we can contain communism.. And that any nation that was communist was utimately controled by the USSR which was wrong... The United States did some of the worse things from overthrowing Mosadeq in Iran, to supporting brutal dictatorships in places like Chile, and Argentina..Topics we'd like to see:
1 thing Americans should know about the Vietnam War. Who's with me?!
I have yet to meet a single American who knew what they were really doing in that war.
Scarebaby
Topics we'd like to see:
1 thing Americans should know about the Vietnam War. Who's with me?!
I have yet to meet a single American who knew what they were really doing in that war.
They were trying to stop the north Vietnam communists that were taking over the plan.. It marked the end of Johnson's political career, and it was a part of one of the worse United States policies ever: the idea that we can contain communism.. And that any nation that was communist was utimately controled by the USSR which was wrong... The United States did some of the worse things from overthrowing Mosadeq in Iran, to supporting brutal dictatorships in places like Chile, and Argentina.. Also starting the Mudhajeen in Afghanistan, Iran Contra(I think you mentioned that), and the Nicuargua Contra programI was taught the OT in high school. Not everyone is being taught ignorance.See, I did not know most of that. That was an awesome read.
In school they always make it seems like America came in and the war ended due to our superior something, but that is not the case, apparently.
God, I would love to see this hanging in the classroom of every history class.
clayron
[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]In 1588? No, in 1898.I read through all of that, and one thing I disagree on is that we weren't very good previous to WWII. Didn't we defeat the Spanish Armada previously to World War II, displaying our dominance at sea?
SolidSnake35
I read through all of that, and one thing I disagree on is that we weren't very good previous to WWII. Didn't we defeat the Spanish Armada previously to World War II, displaying our dominance at sea?
In 1588? The Spanish Armada was largely archaic and not well thought out plan of attack.. It is also one of the center notes to one of the more interesting things in navel history.. And that being of English privateers.. Basically piracy sanctioned by the British government to prey on the Spanish shipping. Infact the armada was so well planned out and primitive when they lost they couldn't even turn around they had to take the english channel and go around.. Where they lost the majority of their forces if I remember correctly.. And really the actual armada didn't take much damage (nothing compared to what you read about during the Nepoleanic war where you hear about 130 gun 1st ship of the line behemoths going down... FIre ships were used and I believe it didn't even cause any damage to the spanish armada, but it intidimated the hell out of them.[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]In 1588? No, in 1898. What are you talking about.. The Spainish during that time were no where close to being a immense navel power.. The main one during that time was Great Britian.. The United States still had a pathetic navy.. Infact the only major navel battles I can think of the United States committing them selves to was the Barbary Wars during the Nepoleanic war before the World Wars*.I read through all of that, and one thing I disagree on is that we weren't very good previous to WWII. Didn't we defeat the Spanish Armada previously to World War II, displaying our dominance at sea?
Ace_WondersX
:| Wow.[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]
The Vietnam war is the stereotypical reason I hate most Americans.
Pirate700
I really do not understand people like that. Because of a few corrupt politicans you are going to hate an entire country? No one wanted to fight in that war, nearly everybody was drafted.
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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]
The Vietnam war is the stereotypical reason I hate most Americans.
:| Wow.I really do not understand people like that. Because of a few corrupt politicans you are going to hate an entire country? No one wanted to fight in that war, nearly everybody was drafted.
Wh....at... Are you talking about? Corruption? It was through our policy of containment during the Cold War.. A red scare was going on through those years where people trusted their government far more and sometimes to disagree would raise suspicion you were a communist.. United States policy hasn't changed far from the Vietnam war..No, in 1898. What are you talking about.. The Spainish during that time were no where close to being a immense navel power.. The main one during that time was Great Britian.. The United States still had a pathetic navy.. Infact the only major navel battles I can think of the United States committing them selves to was the Barbary Wars during the Nepoleanic war before the World Wars*. I'm talking about the Spanish American War in 1898. I don't know how powerful Spain's Naval forces were at that time so maybe I'm wrong.[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] In 1588?sSubZerOo
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]What are you talking about.. The Spainish during that time were no where close to being a immense navel power.. The main one during that time was Great Britian.. The United States still had a pathetic navy.. Infact the only major navel battles I can think of the United States committing them selves to was the Barbary Wars during the Nepoleanic war before the World Wars*. I'm talking about the Spanish American War in 1898. I don't know how powerful Spain's Naval forces were at that time so maybe I'm wrong. They weren't powerful at all.[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"] No, in 1898.Ace_WondersX
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"]In 1588? No, in 1898. Didn't even know there was a second one. >.>I read through all of that, and one thing I disagree on is that we weren't very good previous to WWII. Didn't we defeat the Spanish Armada previously to World War II, displaying our dominance at sea?
Ace_WondersX
No, in 1898.Ace_WondersXWhat are you talking about.. The Spainish during that time were no where close to being a immense navel power.. The main one during that time was Great Britian.. The United States still had a pathetic navy.. Infact the only major navel battles I can think of the United States committing them selves to was the Barbary Wars during the Nepoleanic war before the World Wars*. I'm talking about the Spanish American War in 1898. I don't know how powerful Spain's Naval forces were at that time so maybe I'm wrong. There were some navy battles, but nothing like a armada.. Both countries had weak militaries and especially navies.
[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] In 1588?SolidSnake35No, in 1898. Didn't even know there was a second one. >.> He just misworded the Armada.. Spain like the United States had only a few dozen ships if not less for combat. Spain's glory days ended when they got kicked out of the Caribbean...
[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] What are you talking about.. The Spainish during that time were no where close to being a immense navel power.. The main one during that time was Great Britian.. The United States still had a pathetic navy.. Infact the only major navel battles I can think of the United States committing them selves to was the Barbary Wars during the Nepoleanic war before the World Wars*.I'm talking about the Spanish American War in 1898. I don't know how powerful Spain's Naval forces were at that time so maybe I'm wrong. There were some navy battles, but nothing like a armada.. Both countries had weak militaries and especially navies. Okay thanks for the lesson, but that's a lot different from the way they described it in my U.S. History textbooks. They gave the vibe that this was an David vs. Goliath type event with the U.S. Naval victories in the Phillipines and Cuba.sSubZerOo
People will always try to knock the US. Sometimes with legit complaints, sometimes not.
Whether it was during the war for independence ("Pffft...the US didnt win, the French and Indians did most of the fighting...") or during WWII as stated above, it will always happen.
I will just say that there are countless variables and exceptions that make any generalization exactlly that: a sweeping, inaccurate generalizition. I am sure there were many battles critical to the war that the US helped to win, and many the US lost that screwed over its goals. Its likely the US boasted or exagerated when credit was not due to them, and many times when the US never got the praise it deserved.
In the end, we chose a side, our side won, and thus we won, along with the rest of our allies. I also think it is important to remember that the US itself was never threatened or in immediate dangerby or from the European axis powers, and the atlantic ocean is a pretty damn big body of water to cross to help out your friends. So if youre going to remember one thing, remember that the US did the right thing and helped out the good guys.
Remember, there may be no "I" in team, but there is no "U" either, so you cant point the finger and say "U didnt do jack squat, USA!"
:| Wow.[QUOTE="Pirate700"]
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The Vietnam war is the stereotypical reason I hate most Americans.
stupid4
I really do not understand people like that. Because of a few corrupt politicans you are going to hate an entire country? No one wanted to fight in that war, nearly everybody was drafted.
The Viet Nam came about because of France....There were some navy battles, but nothing like a armada.. Both countries had weak militaries and especially navies. Okay thanks for the lesson, but that's a lot different from the way they described it in my U.S. History textbooks. They gave the vibe that this was an David vs. Goliath type event with the U.S. Naval victories in the Phillipines and Cuba. The majority of fights literally consisted of less than a dozen ships on each side.. And they were smaller ships..[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"] I'm talking about the Spanish American War in 1898. I don't know how powerful Spain's Naval forces were at that time so maybe I'm wrong.Ace_WondersX
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]:| Wow.
I really do not understand people like that. Because of a few corrupt politicans you are going to hate an entire country? No one wanted to fight in that war, nearly everybody was drafted.
The Viet Nam came about because of France.... The United States committing to the war had little to do with France, it was a war of choice.I already know this, but what the hell; USA! USA! USA!enterawesomeI wouldn't do that, I got moderated for shouting USA in this topic..
[QUOTE="Ace_WondersX"][QUOTE="SolidSnake35"] In 1588?SolidSnake35No, in 1898. Didn't even know there was a second one. >.>
There wasnt another spainsh armada like the british defeated. He is just talking about a war that displayed American imperialism and was the final nail in the coffin for Spain military and colonialism.
[QUOTE="enterawesome"]I already know this, but what the hell; USA! USA! USA!ferrari2001I wouldn't do that, I got moderated for shouting USA in this topic..
Seriously :|
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