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#101 LightR
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Don't forget about China stalling the Japanese from trading suppies with the Germans!

Or the Canadian Liberations of Italy! :D

Makemap

Also England invented radar to help keep out the Germans.

Sorry for the double posting.

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#102 MoonMarvel
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Nobody ever said we won it all by ourself, we just resent people saying we were useless and not needed. Also no duh our army was terrible for a while, common knowledge. Now focus on europeans not us.
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#103 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

Don't forget about China stalling the Japanese from trading suppies with the Germans!

Or the Canadian Liberations of Italy! :D

We need a thread like this for Canadians. Canada wasn't the only country there dude. In fact there were 3 commanders, none were canadian.
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#104 Makemap
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="stupid4"]

I really do not understand people like that. Because of a few corrupt politicans you are going to hate an entire country? No one wanted to fight in that war, nearly everybody was drafted.

sSubZerOo

The Viet Nam came about because of France....

The United States committing to the war had little to do with France, it was a war of choice.

Actually it's because France was part of the Allies so the US send troops to help. It end up going wrong since the french ditched.

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#105 Makemap
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

Don't forget about China stalling the Japanese from trading suppies with the Germans!

Or the Canadian Liberations of Italy! :D

LightR

Also England invented radar to help keep out the Germans.

Sorry for the double posting.

Didn't the Germans had radars? I mean their U-boats could shoot undersea that time.

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#106 finesse-gamer
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good read... knew most of it already, except for some details.

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#108 MoonMarvel
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I gotsome interesting facts about D Day to add to that if you dont mind. (This is for everyones benefit not just Americans)

60% of all forces who assaulted the beaches of Normandy were either British or Canadian, many do not know this as they have been led to believe that the US army undertook the burden of D Day

Most of the Naval and Airforces who participated in the operation were British a total of about 42% belonged to the US

Germany wouldprobably have beaten back the Normany landings if it had not commited 4/5 of its Army to the fight against the soviets

Just some info i have picked up over the years in my studies

watblud

Thats because the US had more troops there than any single nation.

How many Allied troops were involved in D-Day?

On D-Day, the Allies landed around 156,000 troops in Normandy. The American forces landed numbered 73,000: 23,250 on Utah Beach, 34,250 on Omaha Beach, and 15,500 airborne troops. In the British and Canadian sector, 83,115 troops were landed (61,715 of them British): 24,970 on Gold Beach, 21,400 on Juno Beach, 28,845 on Sword Beach, and 7900 airborne troops.

Were are you getting this 60% number, I can't find any evidence backing it up.

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#109 Toriko42
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I'm not sure what this article is supposed to be proving? And regardless we ended the war and came out the most powerful in the world so I don't get the point of this wall of text.

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America didn't end the war, the Allies did mostly thanks to Russia
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#110 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'm not sure what this article is supposed to be proving? And regardless we ended the war and came out the most powerful in the world so I don't get the point of this wall of text.

America didn't end the war, the Allies did mostly thanks to Russia

FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan.
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#111 meiaman
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Wow, this post is really interesting. I`m glad i read it. :P

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#112 Dr_Brocoli
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I'm not sure what this article is supposed to be proving? And regardless we ended the war and came out the most powerful in the world so I don't get the point of this wall of text.

Pirate700
You didnt end the war. It states America helped end the war by growing from nothing into something. As it said, MANY countries had much more power than the US. America DID not and would have NEVER won it on its own. TC, I cause your post didnt help clear the ignorance up :S
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#113 finesse-gamer
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I'm not sure what this article is supposed to be proving? And regardless we ended the war and came out the most powerful in the world so I don't get the point of this wall of text.

Pirate700

it's purpose is to single us dumb americans out, and make us feel guilty about not knowing everything about everything that happened during WWII.

:P

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#114 Dr_Brocoli
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Nobody ever said we won it all by ourself, we just resent people saying we were useless and not needed. Also no duh our army was terrible for a while, common knowledge. Now focus on europeans not us.MoonMarvel
Actually, the majroity of Americans do say Americans won it by themselves...
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#115 finesse-gamer
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Nobody ever said we won it all by ourself, we just resent people saying we were useless and not needed. Also no duh our army was terrible for a while, common knowledge. Now focus on europeans not us.Dr_Brocoli
Actually, the majroity of Americans do say Americans won it by themselves...

where'd you get that tidbit?

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#116 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

I'm not sure what this article is supposed to be proving? And regardless we ended the war and came out the most powerful in the world so I don't get the point of this wall of text.

America didn't end the war, the Allies did mostly thanks to Russia

FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan.

The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.
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#117 deactivated-5f9e3c6a83e51
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The Vietnam war is the stereotypical reason I hate most Americans.

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Because it was such a popular war in the US?
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#118 solidsnake2050
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Excellent read.... sadly I learned more about World War II here than in four years of high school.
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]America didn't end the war, the Allies did mostly thanks to RussiaToriko42
FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan.

The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.

What are you talking about? The Russian army didn't declare war on Japan until after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Sino-Russian war was fought years before WW II and was a disasterous defeat for the russians.
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#120 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="Dr_Brocoli"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"]Nobody ever said we won it all by ourself, we just resent people saying we were useless and not needed. Also no duh our army was terrible for a while, common knowledge. Now focus on europeans not us.finesse-gamer

Actually, the majroity of Americans do say Americans won it by themselves...

where'd you get that tidbit?

He made it up. He is wrong, Most americans are accused of saying that but its a lie.
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#121 MetroidPrimePwn
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Excellent read.... sadly I learned more about World War II here than in four years of high school.solidsnake2050

I already knew all of that from my first year of high school.

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#122 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan. sonicare
The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.

What are you talking about? The Russian army didn't declare war on Japan until after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Sino-Russian war was fought years before WW II and was a disasterous defeat for the russians.

Thank you. He needs to prove what he said.
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#123 phillo99
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]America didn't end the war, the Allies did mostly thanks to RussiaToriko42
FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan.

The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.

Except that was two years before America was involved and in the meantime, they signed a non-aggression pact which lasted until August of 1945. So in effect, the soviets did very little until their invasion of Manchuria.

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#124 finesse-gamer
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[QUOTE="sonicare"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers. MoonMarvel
What are you talking about? The Russian army didn't declare war on Japan until after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Sino-Russian war was fought years before WW II and was a disasterous defeat for the russians.

Thank you. He needs to prove what he said.

also, it's not like we were gonna run out of A-bombs lol.

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#125 phillo99
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What are you talking about? The Russian army didn't declare war on Japan until after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Sino-Russian war was fought years before WW II and was a disasterous defeat for the russians.sonicare

Sino-Russian? I was not aware that china had any capability to attack anyone back then.

If I think I know what you are saying, I'm pretty sure he's refering to the Gholkin(sp?) battle/dispute/incident, where the Soviets and mongols defeated a Japanese force, which took place in 1939.

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#126 MoonMarvel
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[QUOTE="sonicare"] What are you talking about? The Russian army didn't declare war on Japan until after the atomic bombs were dropped. The Sino-Russian war was fought years before WW II and was a disasterous defeat for the russians.phillo99

Sino-Russian? I was not aware that china had any capability to attack anyone back then.

If I think I know what you are saying, I'm pretty sure he's refering to the Gholkin(sp?) battle/dispute/incident, where the Soviets and mongols defeated a Japanese force, which took place in 1939.

Russia didn't declare war on Japan until 1945, 2 days after the bombs dropped.
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#127 AngelNeo00
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[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Toriko42"]America didn't end the war, the Allies did mostly thanks to RussiaToriko42
FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan.

The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.

Dude you seriuosly need a lesson in history :|

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#128 xfactor19990
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good facts
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#129 Dark_Knight6
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Very good read. Every American should know the United State's role in WWII. Unfortunately, this seems far from true as it is so poorly taught in schools. Hell, the only reason I know what I know about it is because I went and learned about it on my own, through the use of the History Channel and the local library.

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#130 Makemap
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] FYI, Russia had nothing to do with defeating Japan. AngelNeo00

The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.

Dude you seriuosly need a lesson in history :|

Actuallly both of you guys need some history. The defeat of Japanese ifs because they mostly invaded China. They lost a lot of ground troops their. Their Naval force is mostly the USA and the British was their also. The Air force you can tell, BANZAI! Ya, an Ace goes BANZAI! Their defense was weaken due to the attempt to take over China.

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#131 AngelNeo00
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[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers. Makemap

Dude you seriuosly need a lesson in history :|

Actuallly both of you guys need some history. The defeat of Japanese ifs because they mostly invaded China. They lost a lot of ground troops their. Their Naval force is mostly the USA and the British was their also. The Air force you can tell, BANZAI! Ya, an Ace goes BANZAI! Their defense was weaken due to the attempt to take over China.

He said Japan tried invading Russia not China please read his post which didnt affect Japan's loses as much as invading china ;)

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#132 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]

Dude you seriuosly need a lesson in history :|

AngelNeo00

Actuallly both of you guys need some history. The defeat of Japanese ifs because they mostly invaded China. They lost a lot of ground troops their. Their Naval force is mostly the USA and the British was their also. The Air force you can tell, BANZAI! Ya, an Ace goes BANZAI! Their defense was weaken due to the attempt to take over China.

He said Japan tried invading Russia not China please read his post which didnt affect Japan's loses as much as invading china ;)

no. He said Russia was already in a war with Japan. Nothing about invading Russia. Please read the post.
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#133 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

What argument

BumFluff122

Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield.

This is how Family Guy views Canada.

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#134 BumFluff122
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[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

What argument

Trmpt

Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield.

This is how Family Guy views Canada.

ok?
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#135 Trmpt
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[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

[QUOTE="BumFluff122"]Exactly my point. The majority of people who make fun of Canadians (That late night show on Fox is an example) know almost nothing about Canada itself or what it brought to the battlefield.

BumFluff122

This is how Family Guy views Canada.

ok?

Just thought it would be funny. (I dont hate Canada btw)
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#136 AngelNeo00
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

He said Japan tried invading Russia not China please read his post which didnt affect Japan's loses as much as invading china ;)

BumFluff122

no. He said Russia was already in a war with Japan. Nothing about invading Russia. Please read the post.

Umm no he didnt


The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers.Toriko42

Again read his post

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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The Viet Nam came about because of France....

The United States committing to the war had little to do with France, it was a war of choice.

Actually it's because France was part of the Allies so the US send troops to help. It end up going wrong since the french ditched.

The point being is when the French left (which was the intelligent thing to do), we did not need to go in there.. It was a war of choice based around one of the worse US policies ever by trying to contain communism.
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#138 KrunkG7707
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anyone wanna explain why in the 8th fact classmates iscensored?

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#139 EMOEVOLUTION
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I'm an American and I all ready knew that. But you're right.. many of us are ignorant.

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#140 mattykovax
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anyone wanna explain why in the 8th fact classmates iscensored?

KrunkG7707
the word class in censored because of an exploit.
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The most important thing is, dont **** with America. We will bring you down.

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#142 LiquidZ08
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That was a good read, although I knew most of that. I enjoy history :)
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#143 Buyugold
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besides totally ignoring the Marine Corps/Navy/Merchant Marines it should be common place knowledge for every citizen

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#144 carrot-cake
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The most important thing is, dont **** with America. We will bring you down.

Hungry_Jello


Did you read the post? :|

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#145 CommanderShiro
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I already knew all of that, but then again WWII is a subject I enjoy researching more than anything.

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[QUOTE="Scarebaby"]

The Vietnam war is the stereotypical reason I hate most Americans.

Pirate700

:| Wow.

Shouldn't it also be the stereotypical reason he hates the French too?

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#147 deactivated-57e5de5e137a4
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It's a good article except that last point kind of nullifies the rest of the article. He's saying USA were not the superhuman soldiers people portrayed them as, then he ends with cheese like "They died for you." Please...
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[QUOTE="Makemap"]

[QUOTE="AngelNeo00"]

The reason why America was able to get Japan was because Russia had already pummeled the Japanese army when Japan tried to invade thus destroying many of their resources and taking the lives of thousands of their soldiers. Toriko42

Dude you seriuosly need a lesson in history :|

Actuallly both of you guys need some history. The defeat of Japanese ifs because they mostly invaded China. They lost a lot of ground troops their. Their Naval force is mostly the USA and the British was their also. The Air force you can tell, BANZAI! Ya, an Ace goes BANZAI! Their defense was weaken due to the attempt to take over China.

That's absolutely false. I don't think I've ever seen any historical expert come to the conclusion that the downfall of Japan was because of their invasion of mainland China. They needed the resources in those areas and got them. They lost the battle because of the destruction of their carrier fleet and the subsequent destruction of their industrial capacity by the US.