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#1 trubluah
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So at a Elementary School, an 11year old boy who was caught physically assaulting a young girl, was tazered (twice) because he didn't adhere to the officers orders. First tazer was to break the fight, and the second tazer when the boy got back up to go after the girl again.

The two mothers had both a pro & con of the situation, and I'm for the pro of this issue. If a student is out of control, the safest method to subdue a young boy without any additional physical means would be to use a taser. I'm sure if it was your child who was getting physically assaulted, you would want the best treatment to resolve it.it's harmless to the kids, just puts them through a adrenaline rush afterwards.

What are your thoughts?

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#2 Darth-Caedus
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I have no problems with that...all though I would think a cop would be able to subdue an 11 year old without a taser >_>
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#3 THE_BRUTALIZER
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News article

So at a Elementary School, an 11year old boy who was caught physically assaulting a young girl, was tazered (twice) because he didn't adhere to the officers orders. First tazer was to break the fight, and the second tazer when the boy got back up to go after the girl again.

The two mothers had both a pro & con of the situation, and I'm for the pro of this issue. If a student is out of control, the safest method to subdue a young boy without any additional physical means would be to use a taser. I'm sure if it was your child who was getting physically assaulted, you would want the best treatment to resolve it.it's harmless to the kids, just puts them through a adrenaline rush afterwards.

What are your thoughts?

trubluah
I agree, I believe that nightsticks might be a little.....uh....out of order, but tazers will do the trick. Ive been tased before. Not because I did anything wrong lol.....but it like completely stops you, knocks everything out of you, its like every limb and muscle just gives out in a quick jolt of pain. Its really not that terrible. I wouldnt wanna get shot again, but thats life. Follow the rules or get knocked the **** down.
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#4 THE_BRUTALIZER
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I have no problems with that...all though I would think a cop would be able to subdue an 11 year old without a taser >_>Darth-Caedus
That is also very true hahaha
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#5 Tauruslink
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Cant that give him like a heart attack or something? :?
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#6 THE_BRUTALIZER
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Cant that give him like a heart attack or something? :?Tauruslink
I guess if the kid has a rare medical problem, but a dude was beating on a girl. 11 or not, thats not cool.
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#7 gameguy6700
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If they have to break up a fight and the aggressor isn't letting up then yeah, they should use whatever non-lethal means they need to in order to subdue the kid. That said I find it a bit odd that a police officer couldn't subdue an 11 year old. This reminds me of the story last month where two policemen shot a chihuahua three times with a 9mm pistol because it was "out of control".

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#8 trubluah
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Cant that give him like a heart attack or something? :?Tauruslink
According to researches, it's not enough. Nor should it cause issues with pacemakers either... which I'm not too sure about. However anybody with heart conditions or pacemakers would not be in the physical strength to be physically assaulting someone.
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#9 Random__
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I'm fine with it. If the boy was attacking a girl, and refused to stop. It had to be done.
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#10 enterawesome
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The kid assaulted the girl? Hell, I would have tazered him three times.
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#11 trubluah
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If they have to break up a fight and the aggressor isn't letting up then yeah, they should use whatever non-lethal means they need to in order to subdue the kid. That said I find it a bit odd that a police officer couldn't subdue an 11 year old. This reminds me of the story last month where two policemen shot a chihuahua three times with a 9mm pistol because it was "out of control".

gameguy6700
It's possible that the kid was biting the officer or maybe even be a tall 11 year old. There are many many 6' tall 11 year olds....
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If they have to break up a fight and the aggressor isn't letting up then yeah, they should use whatever non-lethal means they need to in order to subdue the kid. That said I find it a bit odd that a police officer couldn't subdue an 11 year old. This reminds me of the story last month where two policemen shot a chihuahua three times with a 9mm pistol because it was "out of control".

gameguy6700
Maybe he was trying to teach the kid a lesson. If you just pull a consistent bully from another victim and tell him to stop, or maybe give him detention, he's not gonna stop. I mean really. However, if you give him a chance, then shock his ass with 1.21 jiggawatts (lol) then chances are he's not gonna mess around like that anymore.
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#13 bc1391
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Subduing an 11 year old shouldn't be that difficult. :?

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#14 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]Cant that give him like a heart attack or something? :?THE_BRUTALIZER
I guess if the kid has a rare medical problem, but a dude was beating on a girl. 11 or not, thats not cool.

At 11 the girls are actually bigger than the boys on average so the "logic" (for lack of a better word) behind the social rule of "don't hit a girl" doesn't really apply at that age.

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#15 super_mario_128
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...Why was the boy's reaction to go after the girl again after recovering from the first tazer?
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#16 XturnalS
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I don't see how it was a last resort? Can you not seriously subdue an 11 yr old boy? What is with all these cops who cannot subdue these people who are small and or young/old?

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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

If they have to break up a fight and the aggressor isn't letting up then yeah, they should use whatever non-lethal means they need to in order to subdue the kid. That said I find it a bit odd that a police officer couldn't subdue an 11 year old. This reminds me of the story last month where two policemen shot a chihuahua three times with a 9mm pistol because it was "out of control".

trubluah

It's possible that the kid was biting the officer or maybe even be a tall 11 year old. There are many many 6' tall 11 year olds....

6 ft 11 year olds? Many?? Your exagerating, i've never seen a 11 year old that tall.

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#18 avatar_genius
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Why are so many people getting tazered?

It's like they went all Pikachu on everyone.

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#19 th3warr1or
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WOW. That kid has some freaking balls lol. He got up AFTER a tazer and wanted to attack again?
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#20 Tht1Guy7780
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Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

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#21 ariz3260
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I remember there was a story about a girl with epilepsy got tazered and left a nasty scar on her head, took 10+ stitches to sew it back up...

I think the debate is still on whether or not a tazer is really the best way to subdue anyone without causing unnecessary physical damage, at least the last time I checked...

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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"]Cant that give him like a heart attack or something? :?gameguy6700

I guess if the kid has a rare medical problem, but a dude was beating on a girl. 11 or not, thats not cool.

At 11 the girls are actually bigger than the boys on average so the "logic" (for lack of a better word) behind the social rule of "don't hit a girl" doesn't really apply at that age.

I doubt that the girl was bigger than the dude....and it definitely was NOT that way when I was 11....but even if the girl was a little bit bigger, chances are that the boy could have been stronger. Size does not always matter... And still, he was hitting a girl. Where I come from thats just not right. Well its not right to hit anyone.....ugh you know what i mean lol
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That'll teach that punk kid a lesson. Who does he think he is beating up on a girl?? They should've let her have a freebie kick to his ****s to really teach him a lesson.

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Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

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Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....
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I have a very poor outlook on generally all cops, for the most part they are all roid raging jackasses that get their kicks out of abusing the people they "protect". If the parents would've been doing their job from the get-go and whipped the holy hell out of this kid, I'm highly doubting this kind of crap would happen in the first place. My family put the fear in my at a very early age and I could've forseen horrible circumstances for doing something as stupid as this kid. This day and age people are so damn weak minded that they won't even discipline any bad behavior for fear of another moron watching them and ratting them out. Yes I'm talking to you all the ones who would report an assault for seeing a child being spanked and disciplined...

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#26 THE_BRUTALIZER
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That'll teach that punk kid a lesson. Who does he think he is beating up on a girl?? They should've let her have a freebie kick to his ****s to really teach him a lesson.

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hahaha.....tazed a kid then beat him in the balls, he'll definitely learn something there hahaha.....but then comes LAWSUIT
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[QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

THE_BRUTALIZER
Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....

Ummm the link didn't say this had anything to do with race. Why are you bringing it up?
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#28 THE_BRUTALIZER
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I have a very poor outlook on generally all cops, for the most part they are all roid raging jackasses that get their kicks out of abusing the people the "protect". If the parents would've been doing their job from the get-go and whipped the holy hell out of this kid, I'm highly doubting this kind of crap would happen. My family put the fear in my at a very early age. This day and age people are so damn weak minded that they won't even discipline any bad behavior for fear of another moron watching them and ratting them out. Yes I'm talking to you all the ones who would report an assault for seeing a child being spanked and disciplined...

jer_1
I agree, the parents probably had a lot to do with it. I grew up with a flyswatter on the wall, and parents who knew how to use it. And it was used several times, but it was nescessary, I would never even think about hitting anyone like that....especially at that age. Im more of the defensive type. I wont start a fight unless someone really pushes me.
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#29 flammable_zeus
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The kid deserved it. The fact that he went back to attack her AFTER the first shot shows how badly it was needed. Whether he was attacking a girl, a boy or a damn rabbit, it's never okay to assault somebody.

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It's her fault for acting up.

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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

Tauruslink
Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....

Ummm the link didn't say this had anything to do with race. Why are you bringing it up?

Did you read the other dudes post? It was talking about how a teacher making it a race issue could be a possibility.....
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] I guess if the kid has a rare medical problem, but a dude was beating on a girl. 11 or not, thats not cool.THE_BRUTALIZER

At 11 the girls are actually bigger than the boys on average so the "logic" (for lack of a better word) behind the social rule of "don't hit a girl" doesn't really apply at that age.

I doubt that the girl was bigger than the dude....and it definitely was NOT that way when I was 11....but even if the girl was a little bit bigger, chances are that the boy could have been stronger. Size does not always matter... And still, he was hitting a girl. Where I come from thats just not right. Well its not right to hit anyone.....ugh you know what i mean lol

Girls are usually around 5'+ by age 11. Boys are only just beginning puberty at that age. They don't overtake girls in physical size until around 14.

I personally think the adage that a male shouldn't hit a female is incredibly stupid. Hitting anyone is wrong, gender doesn't matter at all. Likewise, just because you're a girl doesn't mean I won't respond in kind if you hit me.

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News article

So at a Elementary School, an 11year old boy who was caught physically assaulting a young girl, was tazered (twice) because he didn't adhere to the officers orders. First tazer was to break the fight, and the second tazer when the boy got back up to go after the girl again.

The two mothers had both a pro & con of the situation, and I'm for the pro of this issue. If a student is out of control, the safest method to subdue a young boy without any additional physical means would be to use a taser. I'm sure if it was your child who was getting physically assaulted, you would want the best treatment to resolve it.it's harmless to the kids, just puts them through a adrenaline rush afterwards.

What are your thoughts?

trubluah

I call BS. The last resort isn't to tazer a dude. The last resort is to blow his freaking head off.

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No way should a tazer be what they go for in cases like these. I mean the kid is 11 and they are full grown adults trained to fight actual criminals. By all means cops need to grab them and assess the situation without shooting them up with electricity.

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#35 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

At 11 the girls are actually bigger than the boys on average so the "logic" (for lack of a better word) behind the social rule of "don't hit a girl" doesn't really apply at that age.

gameguy6700

I doubt that the girl was bigger than the dude....and it definitely was NOT that way when I was 11....but even if the girl was a little bit bigger, chances are that the boy could have been stronger. Size does not always matter... And still, he was hitting a girl. Where I come from thats just not right. Well its not right to hit anyone.....ugh you know what i mean lol

Girls are usually around 5'+ by age 11. Boys are only just beginning puberty at that age. They don't overtake girls in physical size until around 14.

I personally think the adage that a male shouldn't hit a female is incredibly stupid. Hitting anyone is wrong, gender doesn't matter at all. Likewise, just because you're a girl doesn't mean I won't respond in kind if you hit me.

I was 5 foot 5 when I was 11....and im 17 now but im only around 6 feet tall. But I can see where you are getting that from....even though that just doesnt seem the way it is.... I mean I agree, hitting anyone is just childish, its stupid as hell. But if a girl hits me, I would at least give them a chance, maybe calm them down, because usually they wont keep on beating and beating you. And, not being sexist at all, but, since males are usually stronger than females, they might have a good reason for their anger. I mean, if anybody hits me I would give them a chance, try to back off, but I dont know, hitting a girl just is not right.....its just common sense to me.
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....

Ummm the link didn't say this had anything to do with race. Why are you bringing it up?

Did you read the other dudes post? It was talking about how a teacher making it a race issue could be a possibility.....

Yeah. Idk. It just seems kind of ironic to bring up race yourself when the case has nothing to do with race.
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#37 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"] Ummm the link didn't say this had anything to do with race. Why are you bringing it up?

Did you read the other dudes post? It was talking about how a teacher making it a race issue could be a possibility.....

Yeah. Idk. It just seems kind of ironic to bring up race yourself when the case has nothing to do with race.

Sorry, Im not racist at all, maybe I should have reworded it or something.
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I came into the thread with the intent of being angry based on the title alone; however, after watching the report, I say the kid got what he rightfully deserved. There is no reason whatsoever that he should be assaulting a little girl, let alone continue assaulting her after clearly being told to cease what he was doing by an officer.
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#39 FreezeBlast95
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Police are getting more violent everyday... Just yesterday I was at the Dominican pride and some guy smacked a girl a cop built like a brick ****house jumped out of his car grabbed the kid who was looked like a stick by the neck lifted him up the air and slammed him into the ground then threw him self on top of him putting his elbow on his back while cuffing him, This cop AT LEAST had 50 pounds on the poor kid it happened right at my feet I swear I almost kicked that cop in the face. >.>

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Couldn't he have just pulled the kid away?

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[QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

THE_BRUTALIZER

Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....

LOL at people pulling the race card while accusing others of potentially pulling it.

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#42 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tauruslink"][QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Did you read the other dudes post? It was talking about how a teacher making it a race issue could be a possibility.....

Yeah. Idk. It just seems kind of ironic to bring up race yourself when the case has nothing to do with race.

Sorry, Im not racist at all, maybe I should have reworded it or something.

Oh no I'm not calling you racist or anything.
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I guess in this case the person deserved to be tazered but shouldn't cops be big enough to restrain an 11 year old without resorting to the use of a tazer?

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#44 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

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Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....

LOL at people pulling the race card while accusing others of potentially pulling it.

Im not "pulling a race card", im not racist, its just a fact of todays society. So lets forget about the race issue....there really wasnt one to start off with......
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#45 kruesader
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I have no problems with that...all though I would think a cop would be able to subdue an 11 year old without a taser >_>Darth-Caedus
Exactly how I feel, surprised he couldn't find another solution Although, my mum is a teacher at a primary school and she said one kid went nuts once and four full grown men had trouble holding him down.
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#46 THE_BRUTALIZER
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I guess in this case the person deserved to be tazered but shouldn't cops be big enough to restrain an 11 year old without resorting to the use of a tazer?

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I could see this as a lesson being taught to the young kid. Plus, who knows what the situation was exactly? The other week, I was at the beach, and I saw three kids (11, 12 and 13 years old) spray painting signs and houses around the neighborhood in broad daylight....I didnt want to get sued so I called the cops, didnt make a big scene, but when the cops came, they knocked on my door, asked for some cleaning supplies, and I gave it to them because they made the kids wash off every last speck of paint in the neighborhood, which was a lot of paint. The cop was talking to me, and mentioned how they shouldnt be teaching the kids the lesson, its the parents who should be....and I agree with him, crap like this wouldnt happen otherwise.
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#47 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

If they have to break up a fight and the aggressor isn't letting up then yeah, they should use whatever non-lethal means they need to in order to subdue the kid. That said I find it a bit odd that a police officer couldn't subdue an 11 year old. This reminds me of the story last month where two policemen shot a chihuahua three times with a 9mm pistol because it was "out of control".

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Maybe he was trying to teach the kid a lesson. If you just pull a consistent bully from another victim and tell him to stop, or maybe give him detention, he's not gonna stop. I mean really. However, if you give him a chance, then shock his ass with 1.21 jiggawatts (lol) then chances are he's not gonna mess around like that anymore.

Unless he's a sociopath or something.

But I find tasering the kid to be a little weak. It's not okay to beat on a girl but it's okay to tase a kid?:? I'm sure the cop could have broken up the fight by pulling the kid away from the girl.:?

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#48 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

If they have to break up a fight and the aggressor isn't letting up then yeah, they should use whatever non-lethal means they need to in order to subdue the kid. That said I find it a bit odd that a police officer couldn't subdue an 11 year old. This reminds me of the story last month where two policemen shot a chihuahua three times with a 9mm pistol because it was "out of control".

cowboymonkey21

Maybe he was trying to teach the kid a lesson. If you just pull a consistent bully from another victim and tell him to stop, or maybe give him detention, he's not gonna stop. I mean really. However, if you give him a chance, then shock his ass with 1.21 jiggawatts (lol) then chances are he's not gonna mess around like that anymore.

Unless he's a sociopath or something.

But I find tasering the kid to be a little weak. It's not okay to beat on a girl but it's okay to tase a kid?:? I'm sure the cop could have broken up the fight by pulling the kid away from the girl.:?

Well, like I said earlier, could just be a lesson that the kid needed to learn. Maybe he bullied all the time? Who knows...
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#49 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]

[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Maybe he was trying to teach the kid a lesson. If you just pull a consistent bully from another victim and tell him to stop, or maybe give him detention, he's not gonna stop. I mean really. However, if you give him a chance, then shock his ass with 1.21 jiggawatts (lol) then chances are he's not gonna mess around like that anymore.THE_BRUTALIZER

Unless he's a sociopath or something.

But I find tasering the kid to be a little weak. It's not okay to beat on a girl but it's okay to tase a kid?:? I'm sure the cop could have broken up the fight by pulling the kid away from the girl.:?

Well, like I said earlier, could just be a lesson that the kid needed to learn. Maybe he bullied all the time? Who knows...

Really though. What kind of a$$hole tases a 11 year old kid? It's not right.:?

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#50 cdl216
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Well I find it hard to believe that a police officer can't restrain an 11 year old boy...but I wasn't there.Cops have to make a lot of difficult decisions.