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#51 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]Unless he's a sociopath or something.

But I find tasering the kid to be a little weak. It's not okay to beat on a girl but it's okay to tase a kid?:? I'm sure the cop could have broken up the fight by pulling the kid away from the girl.:?

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Well, like I said earlier, could just be a lesson that the kid needed to learn. Maybe he bullied all the time? Who knows...

Really though. What kind of a$$hole tases a 11 year old kid? It's not right.:?

Well I can see what you mean. It does seem a little excessive. But what kind of inconsiderate **** beats on a girl? Not once but twice....after being tasered?
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#52 cowboymonkey21
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[QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]

[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Well, like I said earlier, could just be a lesson that the kid needed to learn. Maybe he bullied all the time? Who knows...THE_BRUTALIZER

Really though. What kind of a$$hole tases a 11 year old kid? It's not right.:?

Well I can see what you mean. It does seem a little excessive. But what kind of inconsiderate **** beats on a girl? Not once but twice....after being tasered?

That's true, beating a girl is wrong. But the cops are adults. I really, really doubt they needed to tase a 11 year old. I think that adults hurting children is a bigger crime than men hurting women,especially since they cry for equality.

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#53 ownage_denied
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[QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"] Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....THE_BRUTALIZER

LOL at people pulling the race card while accusing others of potentially pulling it.

Im not "pulling a race card", im not racist, its just a fact of todays society. So lets forget about the race issue....there really wasnt one to start off with......

I don't think you're racist but you did bring up race in a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with it, which is pulling the race card.

On topic, I think tasering an 11 year old is a little bit over the line. I think physical restraint would be a much better option, as long as it's done properly.

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#54 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="cowboymonkey21"]Really though. What kind of a$$hole tases a 11 year old kid? It's not right.:?

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Well I can see what you mean. It does seem a little excessive. But what kind of inconsiderate **** beats on a girl? Not once but twice....after being tasered?

That's true, beating a girl is wrong. But the cops are adults. I really, really doubt they needed to tase a 11 year old. I think that adults hurting children is a bigger crime than men hurting women,especially since they cry for equality.

Well, maybe it would have been better if they found a different way to discipline the kid other then popping some volts in him. Maybe the cop should have given it more thought, but maybe he was in a strange situation. I wouldnt label this as adults hurting children......thats like labeling spanking as child abuse. This had to be more of a discipline thing. I doubt the cop was really trying to hurt the kid. And anyway, what if the kid was assaulting her in a way that violated the girls.....uh idk how to say this....sexual rights? I mean if it was anything along the lines of that, I would have approved a taser without a doubt. It really all depends on the situation, because not much info was given here other than a cop tasered a child who was in a fight with a girl.
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#55 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="ownage_denied"]

LOL at people pulling the race card while accusing others of potentially pulling it.

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Im not "pulling a race card", im not racist, its just a fact of todays society. So lets forget about the race issue....there really wasnt one to start off with......

I don't think you're racist but you did bring up race in a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with it, which is pulling the race card.

On topic, I think tasering an 11 year old is a little bit over the line. I think physical restraint would be a much better option, as long as it's done properly.

Ok, maybe I shoudlnt have mentioned the word race, people are so goddamn sensitive over it......the conversation i was in actually did have something to do slightly with race. Not the topic, the conversation....
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#56 Hungry_Jello
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What the hell is wrong with you guys? You want tazers in elementary schools? I would understand high school but ELE FREAKIN MENTARY school? Theyre just kids. We cant go around tazering kids.

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#57 THE_BRUTALIZER
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What the hell is wrong with you guys? You want tazers in elementary schools? I would understand high school but ELE FREAKIN MENTARY school? Theyre just kids. We cant go around tazering kids.

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Well I think a cop always has that anyway.....but there are so many possibilities....there could be so many situations worse than this, for example sexual assault, what if the kid pulls out a knife or his parents gun?
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#58 deactivated-583cc789d981d
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I have no problems with that...all though I would think a cop would be able to subdue an 11 year old without a taser >_>Darth-Caedus
the problem is that if the cops physically grabs him off the girl then the kid's parents can cry sexual assault or assault against a minor etc

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#59 jer_1
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This brings me back to my original post in this thread.

If you have kids you need to ****ing beat them from time to time! Don't be a damn weak-willed pansy that this country seems to kick out in spades now days. Children will never learn boundaries if left to learn for themselves. Spank your damn kids already!!!

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#60 shoot-first
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[QUOTE="Tauruslink"]Cant that give him like a heart attack or something? :?THE_BRUTALIZER
I guess if the kid has a rare medical problem, but a dude was beating on a girl. 11 or not, thats not cool.

Well, I guess in that situation it was necessary.

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#61 THE_BRUTALIZER
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This brings me back to my original post in this thread.

If you have kids you need to ****ing beat them from time to time! Don't be a damn weak-willed pansy that this country seems to kick out in spades now days. Children will never learn boundaries if left to learn for themselves. Spank your damn kids already!!!

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jer_1 speaks the gospel. kids dont always learn on their own. you have to impose boundaries, you cant just spoil them and let them run around thinking that they are the #1 best in the world.
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#62 weezyfb
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umm a MAN can easile subdue a CHILD
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#63 atony12
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meh i got mixed emotions but I think the cop probly could've handled an 11 yr old but no one hear can honestly say that because we weren't there and didnt see the officer and the kid. My school SRO last year was a girl and she had to use her tazer a few times agianst big students but now we have a guy SRO and he prefers to slam them down. Hey i'd take slamming over a tazer.
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#64 THE_BRUTALIZER
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LOL im looking at the sponsored links below.....taser guns 10 bucks lol.....

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#65 Mafiree
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Tazers are a very good thing in law enforcement......All police officers (at least here in CA) have to be tazed themselves before becoming officers, so they know how it feels. The child was the obvious aggressor in this situation and was dealt with in appropriate matter. I don't understand why this is even an issue really......
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#66 jer_1
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LOL im looking at the sponsored links below.....taser guns 10 bucks lol.....

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#67 Hungry_Jello
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Tazers are a very good thing in law enforcement......All police officers (at least here in CA) have to be tazed themselves before becoming officers, so they know how it feels. The child was the obvious aggressor in this situation and was dealt with in appropriate matter. I don't understand why this is even an issue really...... Mafiree

Because its a CHILD. There are a lot of things you can do before freaking tazering a kid. He was an ADULT. Chloroform would have been a better option. What if your kid was acting unruly and a teacher tazed him a couple times. Would you be alright with that?

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#68 chAzN93
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yes....calm those damn kids!
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#69 THE_BRUTALIZER
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[QUOTE="Mafiree"]Tazers are a very good thing in law enforcement......All police officers (at least here in CA) have to be tazed themselves before becoming officers, so they know how it feels. The child was the obvious aggressor in this situation and was dealt with in appropriate matter. I don't understand why this is even an issue really......

so many people have the same thing that pops into their head at first..... CHILD ABUSE ASSAULT ASSULT ASSAULT
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#70 foxhound_fox
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Tasers can cause heart attacks... in perfectly healthy people. Unless the child is 6'4", the child could easily be subdued by other means. Tasers are very unsafe and should only be used when a gun is called for, but lethal force is not necessary.

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[QUOTE="Mafiree"]Tazers are a very good thing in law enforcement......All police officers (at least here in CA) have to be tazed themselves before becoming officers, so they know how it feels. The child was the obvious aggressor in this situation and was dealt with in appropriate matter. I don't understand why this is even an issue really...... Hungry_Jello

Because its a CHILD. There are a lot of things you can do before freaking tazering a kid. He was an ADULT. Chloroform would have been a better option. What if your kid was acting unruly and a teacher tazed him a couple times. Would you be alright with that?

Unruly vs actively committing battery are two majorly different things. The goal was to prevent further harm to the victim. You advocate pulling the child off but, can you guarantee that while doing so the either child wouldn't have been harmed?
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#72 Z0MBIES
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Hotdamn! I'm loving all of these people getting tasered in the news recently, its always a funny story.
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#73 effena
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The kid's 11. Just grab the little ****. Last resort, put him in an arm lock.No need for tazing kids, imo.

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#74 cowboymonkey21
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This brings me back to my original post in this thread.

If you have kids you need to ****ing beat them from time to time! Don't be a damn weak-willed pansy that this country seems to kick out in spades now days. Children will never learn boundaries if left to learn for themselves. Spank your damn kids already!!!

jer_1

M-m-may-maybe there are other ways to raise kids, o-o-other than your way.:o

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#75 Stesilaus
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Threads like this one leave me shuddering at the thought of a jury composed of OT members.

It's depressing to see how quickly people can jump to conclusions about which party is the aggressor and which party is the victim, based purely on a naive assignment of stereotypical gender roles.

How do you know the girl didn't start the altercation, or at least intentionally provoke it? For all we know, she may have thoroughly deserved the beating that the boy was trying to administer.

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#76 RiseAgainst12
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:lol: jesus... quite sad IMO. So out of the entire school no one had the strengh to pull an 11-year old away?

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#77 Gamerz1569
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Last resort? He's just 11 yrs old I seriously doubt that a police officer could not subdue an 11 year old.

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#78 Kenny789
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Kid deserved it but cmon, did he really have to tazer him? And was a cop really necessary?
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...Why was the boy's reaction to go after the girl again after recovering from the first tazer? super_mario_128
To quote Two & A Half Men: "He's 10; he has the attention span of a hummingbird!"
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#80 Jfisch93
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There are some pretty big people at that age. I knew an 11 year old who was around 5-6 feet tall.

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#81 zarshack
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Beating on a girl aint cool.

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#82 Jazz_Fan
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Why can't you just grab the 11 year old boy :? Seems the taser is being over used for very simple situations.
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#83 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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I would rather they just smacked him.
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#84 corwinn01
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My daughter would have been the one with the tazer;)

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#85 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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My daughter would have been the one with the tazer;)

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my tazer would've been the one with the daughter wait what?
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#86 Razor-Lazor
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Unless he was raping her or sexually abusing her, I really don't see the point of using a tazer.
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#87 Theokhoth
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You know those eleven-year-old children: major top-gun gangsters that'll snap any second and rip your head off with their bare hands. Always best to taser them, 'cuz God knows there haven't been any cops made yet strong enough to separate the fighting children rather than attack them with a very painful and potentially deadly weapon. Tasers are the only rational way to go here.

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#88 RiseAgainst12
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Beating on a girl aint cool.

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Why's that? quite a sexist attitude you've got there :P
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#89 RunnersNation
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If the officer couldn't stop the 11 year old any other way, he can't just give him, he had to use the tazer.

I'd say they should be used, but only if an attempt at stopping them failed.

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#90 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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to be fair, i know an 8 year old boy that will probably get tazered by the time he's a teen.
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#91 awesomeray
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couldnt he have just smacked the kid around a little?:?
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#92 Im_single
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It is protocol NOT to physcially intervene with children or elderly, there is too much of a chance that the police officer will injur them. Being a police officer is the only job where you will be sued for following protocol to a tee, there is no winning for Police, I feel bad for them. People are just out to hate, it is truely sad.
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It is protocol NOT to physcially intervene with children or elderly, there is too much of a chance that the police officer will injur them. Being a police officer is the only job where you will be sued for following protocol to a tee, there is no winning for Police, I feel bad for them. People are just out to hate, it is truely sad.Im_single

They can't step in the middle of the kids and tell them to stop fighting, nudging them away from eachother? They have to use a taser--which is insanely painful on an adult, let alone a child, and people have died from the taser--on a harmless kid because "physical force is too risky"? I call BS. Grabbing the kid's arm and pushing him out of the way is better than shocking him with a weapon, and not even that is necessary to diffuse a situation between prepubescent children.

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[QUOTE="Im_single"]It is protocol NOT to physcially intervene with children or elderly, there is too much of a chance that the police officer will injur them. Being a police officer is the only job where you will be sued for following protocol to a tee, there is no winning for Police, I feel bad for them. People are just out to hate, it is truely sad.Theokhoth

They can't step in the middle of the kids and tell them to stop fighting, nudging them away from eachother? They have to use a taser--which is insanely painful on an adult, let alone a child, and people have died from the taser--on a harmless kid because "physical force is too risky"? I call BS. Grabbing the kid's arm and pushing him out of the way is better than shocking him with a weapon, and not even that is necessary to diffuse a situation between prepubescent children.

The fact that the cop had to taser the boy twice should prove that the only amount of physical force that would have subdued the kid would have been enough to knock him unconscious. In the worst case scenario, the kid, having been knocked unconsious, could slip into a coma, recieve a life-threatening concussion, break any number of his limbs and bones, or recieve some other life-threatening injury because the cop didn't want to run the risk of fricasseeing the kid with a taser, and even then, according to the Wiki (so take it with a grain of salt), there have been 245 deaths from being tased between June 2001 and June 2007, a period of six years.

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#95 tocklestein2005
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I have no problems with that...all though I would think a cop would be able to subdue an 11 year old without a taser >_>Darth-Caedus

Tasers are dangerous, any grown man could knock an 11 year old down pretty quick. The security guard must have been a real pansy.

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#96 RiseAgainst12
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Im_single"]It is protocol NOT to physcially intervene with children or elderly, there is too much of a chance that the police officer will injur them. Being a police officer is the only job where you will be sued for following protocol to a tee, there is no winning for Police, I feel bad for them. People are just out to hate, it is truely sad.tycoonmike

They can't step in the middle of the kids and tell them to stop fighting, nudging them away from eachother? They have to use a taser--which is insanely painful on an adult, let alone a child, and people have died from the taser--on a harmless kid because "physical force is too risky"? I call BS. Grabbing the kid's arm and pushing him out of the way is better than shocking him with a weapon, and not even that is necessary to diffuse a situation between prepubescent children.

The fact that the cop had to taser the boy twice should prove that the only amount of physical force that would have subdued the kid would have been enough to knock him unconscious. In the worst case scenario, the kid, having been knocked unconsious, could slip into a coma, recieve a life-threatening concussion, break any number of his limbs and bones, or recieve some other life-threatening injury because the cop didn't want to run the risk of fricasseeing the kid with a taser, and even then, according to the Wiki (so take it with a grain of salt), there have been 245 deaths from being tased between June 2001 and June 2007, a period of six years.

So your saying that cops in america are weaker than 11 Y.O boys? hmm.. I am sure he could restrain him any number of ways.. giggity.
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#97 Gallion-Beast
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Um, last resort? Why would he need to use a weapon to subdue an 11 year old? Surely if he had tried to restrain him without it (which he didn't, making "last resort" a blatant lie), it wouldn't have been that hard.
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[QUOTE="THE_BRUTALIZER"][QUOTE="Tht1Guy7780"]

Its hard to be a cop these days. You cant even do your job because some teacher will make it a race issue. Who knows what kind of unwarented trouble the officer wouldve been in if he laid his hands on hime. People are so sue happy these days. Its sickening.

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Thats very very true, in fact I wouldnt be surprised.....actually i would expect the average american mom to sue for a cop assaulting their child or something. Especially if the child is black and the cops white. There are so many screwed up ways to get away with that.....

Ummm the link didn't say this had anything to do with race. Why are you bringing it up?

I was suspended before I could clarify hahaha

i was refering to the Gates-cambridge plice incident. Sorry for not clarifying, seems like an argument stemed from this misunderstanding.

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Unless he was in the process of killing the girl, they should have just pulled him off or just let them duke it out.
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Now the million dollar question...what if it was a kid assaulting a snowman?