150 Afghan school girls poisoned by Muslims opposed to female education.

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

They all look the same to me.

Postmortem123

USA is not in Europe is it?

I think Europe is in the country of Africa.

obligatory "you are from america aren't you?".

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

USA is not in Europe is it?

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I think Europe is in the country of Africa.

Come on, how ignorant can you get...

Iknorite?????? I mean he was totally serious and everything.

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#53 Philokalia
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No, after you.

You're the expert.

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After me?

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Religion.

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#55 kuraimen
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To those asking why do they hate women so much most male-driven societies have developed a hatred towards women that's why they have been so oppressed throughout history. Where does that come from? well our natural behaviour is to be fairly equal in roles both males and females within a group.

During the agricultural revolution roles changed dramatically since we became sedentary and population grew considerably, men dedicated themselves to protect territory and work on the land while women's role changed to having as many children as possible to produce the workforce necessary to work and protect the land. Naturally women had like 2 or 3 children tops when we were nomads but after the agricultural revolution that number went up considerably to 10 or more. So men ended up in power positions while women ended up occupying all their time raising children. Roles changed but instincts didn't, even with the new roles women are instinctually predisposed to be equal to men in a social level and to have more or less the same roles, that makes the social environment very complex and things like manipulation happen often within a group to give it its social dynamic.

So after the agricultural revolution male-driven societies had to find ways to restrain women from their natural roles and the best way they found was by the use of force. Now you know why so many cultures excerpt so much control over women, in those ancient scenarios where agriculture was starting it was imperative to do that for society to work, if women didn't want to become babies factories then the groups wouldn't have enough people to defend themselves or for work. Places like Afghanistan are closer to that primitive state so oppression like that is seen as normal.

Of course not all that happens in a consciously or rational way, you don't seat with all the people and give them reasons why women should be restrained to help society that's where religion comes from. As far as humans are concerned emotional justifications are way stronger than rational ones, if you want to convince thousands of people to do something you use religion not a rational explanation. The problem with that is that it then becomes a tradition which further strengthens the behaviour and, in the end, it becomes a resistance to social change.

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[QUOTE="bats94"][QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

I think Europe is in the country of Africa.

themajormayor

Come on, how ignorant can you get...

Iknorite?????? I mean he was totally serious and everything.

I actually know someone who believes Egypt is a city in Africa (which is apparently a country). No joke.

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[QUOTE="NoSpeakyEnglish"]Anyways, I'll never understand why these "men" see it as un Islamic for a women to educate herself.Zeviander
This might help.

LOL wait you're actually fox oh man
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="bats94"] Come on, how ignorant can you get...Postmortem123

Iknorite?????? I mean he was totally serious and everything.

I actually know someone who believes Egypt is a city in Africa (which is apparently a country). No joke.

:? how old is this person?
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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="NoSpeakyEnglish"]Anyways, I'll never understand why these "men" see it as un Islamic for a women to educate herself.Victorious_Fize
This might help.

LOL wait you're actually fox oh man

Some of those are pretty funny.

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Iknorite?????? I mean he was totally serious and everything.

themajormayor

I actually know someone who believes Egypt is a city in Africa (which is apparently a country). No joke.

:? how old is this person?

20, the same age as me.

It is a female though.

Maybe she got poisoned so missed Geography classes in school.

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Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

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Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

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Finally, someone sees sense.

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Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

Postmortem123

Finally, someone sees sense.

I don't get why so many people hate Muslims even though no Muslim has ever personally done something to hurt them...their justifications for hatred are wrong too

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It's crazy to think that at one point the middle east was the most advanced area of the world in almost every aspect.

Sajo7

Multiple invasions will do that to a place.

:lol: THAT is your excuse for barbarism in the middle east? I've heard everything now.

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It's sad to think the Taliban is going to resume control of the region when we leave.

What a messed up part of the world. There is really no way to fix it either.

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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

bats94

Finally, someone sees sense.

I don't get why so many people hate Muslims even though no Muslim has ever personally done something to hurt them...their justifications for hatred are wrong too

^ taking the internet too seriously
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[QUOTE="Sajo7"][QUOTE="Jolt_counter119"]

It's crazy to think that at one point the middle east was the most advanced area of the world in almost every aspect.

Storm_Marine

Multiple invasions will do that to a place.

:lol: THAT is your excuse for barbarism in the middle east? I've heard everything now.

Central Asia... and yes, Taliban was a by-product of Soviet invasion and Western training, after the war was over, civil strife began with fringe Taliban fighting the mujahideen of the war, backed by Pakistani ambitions in Central Asia and Saudi Arabia's Wahabi petro-dollars. As for the Middle East, yes, colonialism made it the way it is now; hell, the borders look like they are drawn with a ruler and a pencil. Have you heard of the Ottoman Empire? It's known today as Turkey. Do you believe their version of Islam to be barbaric? I certainly don't think so, and thanks to the West, it no longer sovereign Middle Eastern countries.
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"] Multiple invasions will do that to a place.Victorious_Fize

:lol: THAT is your excuse for barbarism in the middle east? I've heard everything now.

Central Asia... and yes, Taliban was a by-product of Soviet invasion and Western training, after the war was over, civil strife began with fringe Taliban fighting the mujahideen of the war, backed by Pakistani ambitions in Central Asia and Saudi Arabia's Wahabi petro-dollars. As for the Middle East, yes, colonialism made it the way it is now; hell, the borders look like they are drawn with a ruler and a pencil. Have you heard of the Ottoman Empire? It's known today as Turkey. Do you believe their version of Islam to be barbaric? I certainly don't think so, and thanks to the West, it no longer sovereign Middle Eastern countries.

so Islamic fundamentalism is a product of the west?

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Islam needs to die
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"] Multiple invasions will do that to a place.Victorious_Fize

:lol: THAT is your excuse for barbarism in the middle east? I've heard everything now.

Central Asia... and yes, Taliban was a by-product of Soviet invasion and Western training, after the war was over, civil strife began with fringe Taliban fighting the mujahideen of the war, backed by Pakistani ambitions in Central Asia and Saudi Arabia's Wahabi petro-dollars. As for the Middle East, yes, colonialism made it the way it is now; hell, the borders look like they are drawn with a ruler and a pencil. Have you heard of the Ottoman Empire? It's known today as Turkey. Do you believe their version of Islam to be barbaric? I certainly don't think so, and thanks to the West, it no longer sovereign Middle Eastern countries.

Yes, blaming past governments and empires totally solves today's issues.

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so Islamic fundamentalism is a product of the west?

Storm_Marine

Islam needs to dielo_Pine

Yes, blaming past governments and empires totally solves today's issues.

Wasdie

This place never changes.

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="lo_Pine"] Islam needs to dieVictorious_Fize

Yes, blaming past governments and empires totally solves today's issues.

Wasdie

This place never changes.

You're right. There hasn't been much change in the philosophical thought of the middle east since around 600 AD.

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That was a terrible use of Irony.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

:lol: THAT is your excuse for barbarism in the middle east? I've heard everything now.

Storm_Marine

Central Asia... and yes, Taliban was a by-product of Soviet invasion and Western training, after the war was over, civil strife began with fringe Taliban fighting the mujahideen of the war, backed by Pakistani ambitions in Central Asia and Saudi Arabia's Wahabi petro-dollars. As for the Middle East, yes, colonialism made it the way it is now; hell, the borders look like they are drawn with a ruler and a pencil. Have you heard of the Ottoman Empire? It's known today as Turkey. Do you believe their version of Islam to be barbaric? I certainly don't think so, and thanks to the West, it no longer sovereign Middle Eastern countries.

so Islamic fundamentalism is a product of the west?

Its definitely part of the problem. Meddling in the affairs of countries stirs hatred for that country, which can be hijacked by extremists
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That was a terrible use of Irony.Victorious_Fize

-_- ?

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Central Asia... and yes, Taliban was a by-product of Soviet invasion and Western training, after the war was over, civil strife began with fringe Taliban fighting the mujahideen of the war, backed by Pakistani ambitions in Central Asia and Saudi Arabia's Wahabi petro-dollars. As for the Middle East, yes, colonialism made it the way it is now; hell, the borders look like they are drawn with a ruler and a pencil. Have you heard of the Ottoman Empire? It's known today as Turkey. Do you believe their version of Islam to be barbaric? I certainly don't think so, and thanks to the West, it no longer sovereign Middle Eastern countries.BossPerson

so Islamic fundamentalism is a product of the west?

Its definitely part of the problem. Meddling in the affairs of countries stirs hatred for that country, which can be hijacked by extremists

And then they take out that hatred on their own people?

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

:lol: THAT is your excuse for barbarism in the middle east? I've heard everything now.

Wasdie

Central Asia... and yes, Taliban was a by-product of Soviet invasion and Western training, after the war was over, civil strife began with fringe Taliban fighting the mujahideen of the war, backed by Pakistani ambitions in Central Asia and Saudi Arabia's Wahabi petro-dollars. As for the Middle East, yes, colonialism made it the way it is now; hell, the borders look like they are drawn with a ruler and a pencil. Have you heard of the Ottoman Empire? It's known today as Turkey. Do you believe their version of Islam to be barbaric? I certainly don't think so, and thanks to the West, it no longer sovereign Middle Eastern countries.

Yes, blaming past governments and empires totally solves today's issues.

It does give insight into the problem though
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

so Islamic fundamentalism is a product of the west?

Storm_Marine

Its definitely part of the problem. Meddling in the affairs of countries stirs hatred for that country, which can be hijacked by extremists

And then they take out that hatred on their own people?

I was talking about Islamic terrorism and extremism in general. The afghani situation is different, just a backwards primitive, and misogynist group trying to control

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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]That was a terrible use of Irony.Storm_Marine

-_- ?

Using a statement in an opposite manner is usually considered ironic, yours was really bad.
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stay classy muslims
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Its definitely part of the problem. Meddling in the affairs of countries stirs hatred for that country, which can be hijacked by extremistsBossPerson

And then they take out that hatred on their own people?

I was talking about Islamic terrorism and extremism in general. The afghani situation is different, just a backwards primitive, and misogynist group trying to control

Terrorism is only a small aspect of Islamic fundamentalism.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

And then they take out that hatred on their own people?

Storm_Marine

I was talking about Islamic terrorism and extremism in general. The afghani situation is different, just a backwards primitive, and misogynist group trying to control

Terrorism is only a small aspect of Islamic fundamentalism.

I wasnt only talking about terrorism. Extremism in the middle east hasnt always been as prevalent as it is now.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

bats94

Finally, someone sees sense.

I don't get why so many people hate Muslims even though no Muslim has ever personally done something to hurt them...their justifications for hatred are wrong too

Their brown skin offends me.

:roll:

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[QUOTE="bats94"]

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

Postmortem123

Finally, someone sees sense.

I don't get why so many people hate Muslims even though no Muslim has ever personally done something to hurt them...their justifications for hatred are wrong too

Their brown skin offends me.

:roll:

:lol:
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[QUOTE="bats94"]

[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Obviously that means all Muslims would do it too

Postmortem123

Finally, someone sees sense.

I don't get why so many people hate Muslims even though no Muslim has ever personally done something to hurt them...their justifications for hatred are wrong too

Their brown skin offends me.

:roll:

Then technically you are also offended by African-Americans as well?
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[QUOTE="Postmortem123"]

[QUOTE="bats94"]

Finally, someone sees sense.

I don't get why so many people hate Muslims even though no Muslim has ever personally done something to hurt them...their justifications for hatred are wrong too

bats94

Their brown skin offends me.

:roll:

Then technically you are also offended by African-Americans as well?

Sure, why not.

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wow, they are so terrified of women. what's up with that?

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wow, they are so terrified of women.

Riverwolf007

that's why they cover them up head to toe.:o

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wow, they are so terrified of women.

Storm_Marine

that's why they cover them up head to toe.:o

i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

wow, they are so terrified of women.

Riverwolf007

that's why they cover them up head to toe.:o

i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Either you both are hateful, or ignorant. One of the two.
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

wow, they are so terrified of women.

Riverwolf007

that's why they cover them up head to toe.:o

i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Well they'll be virgins so they won't know better y'know. 'Bashful' virgins no less.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

that's why they cover them up head to toe.:o

Victorious_Fize

i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Either you both are hateful, or ignorant. One of the two.

did you just speak to me? what if i was a woman? you could be unclean right now and not even know it.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

that's why they cover them up head to toe.:o

Storm_Marine

i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Well they'll be virgins so they won't know better y'know. 'Bashful' virgins no less.

Definitely mad.
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Riverwolf007

Either you both are hateful, or ignorant. One of the two.

did you just speak to me? what if i was a woman? you could be unclean right now and not even know it.

oh snap:o

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#96 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Riverwolf007

Either you both are hateful, or ignorant. One of the two.

did you just speak to me? what if i was a woman? you could be unclean right now and not even know it.

Oh, so you're both.
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]i also think it's weird to have the big afterlife reward be a pile of virgins.

how insecure do you have to be that your paradise is wrapped around the concept that women will no longer know enough about sex to laugh at how bad you are in bed.

Victorious_Fize

Well they'll be virgins so they won't know better y'know. 'Bashful' virgins no less.

Definitely mad.

I didn't see the 'mad' part in my copy of the Qu'ran.

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#98 Victorious_Fize
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[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Well they'll be virgins so they won't know better y'know. 'Bashful' virgins no less.

Storm_Marine

Definitely mad.

They might be. Who knows?

If your comprehension cannot permit you to understand who I was referring to, then I'll have to inform you that I was writing about you.

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#99 ShadowMoses900
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This is why Israel should control the entire ME, they value human rights and would never let something like this happen. Gilrs are given same education as men and same rights and people can be whatever religion they want to, or even atheist, without fear of harm or oppression.

They should do something like the EU but with ME countires instead except with Israel as the head power and decision maker. But they would all have to follow democracy and Israel to be a part of it.

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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"] Definitely mad.Victorious_Fize

They might be. Who knows?

If your comprehension cannot permit you to understand who I was referring to, then I'll have to inform you that I was writing about you.

mad about what?