2024 OT Election Day Thread: Donald Trump elected POTUS, GOP wins Senate and House of Representatives

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#2401  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@johndoh said:

Judge Halts DOGE Access to Treasury Payment Systems - The New York Times

The order came in response to a lawsuit filed by 19 attorneys general accusing the president of failing to faithfully execute the nation’s laws when he let DOGE comb through federal computer systems.

Looks good on paper but...they are just going to ignore this. The law doesn't matter anymore lol. Please Democrats, grow a spine and do even worse in 2028.

Democrats don't have much power. Republicans have the majority if both houses and we know the supreme court is compromised.

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@joshrmeyer said:

@uninspiredcup: I think everyone knows Trump is just talking. There’s no way any of that is gonna happen. I don’t agree with it, but by now, you’d think people would understand who Trump is. And it’s kinda crazy that I keep hearing about egg prices, like y’all don’t know why their price is high right now.

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Trump signs order prioritizing US ‘resettlement’ of white South Africans over ‘discrimination’ | The Independent

Who is going to explain this stuff? Why only these refugees and not others?

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@johndoh: So, uh, anti-immigrant crowd. Sitting this one out?

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@johndoh: wonder how the America first lot feel about this kind of immigration.

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@comp_atkins: So this means Trump is going to improve the education system?

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#2407 LJS9502_basic
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@appariti0n said:

@comp_atkins: So this means Trump is going to improve the education system?

No, funding lost does not make education better.

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@appariti0n said:

@comp_atkins: So this means Trump is going to improve the education system?

Much like how he improved our pandemic response system and reproductive health system? Pretty sure both suffered due to him, going by pretty much any journal review on the matter.

Doesn't shit he usually touch kinda...go to shit?

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@rzing said:

@johndoh: wonder how the America first lot feel about this kind of immigration.

@nintendoboy16 said:

@johndoh: So, uh, anti-immigrant crowd. Sitting this one out?

They aren't going to respond to that, because they don't want to get permanently banned if they speak their mind. We all know lol.

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@johndoh: they won't get banned, one of the mods is part of that crowd.

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@rzing: That same mod banned SargentD for ban evasion, so who knows what their priorities are when it comes to rule breakers.

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#2412 Planeforger
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Same old news today. Trump and Musk significantly weaken the US by doing X. They cut funding to Y, despite Y being important for our entire species. They celebrate some stupid imaginary cultural victory. They ignore all of the courts and constituents telling them to stop. Yada yada.

Shall we just call it? The coup is done, the 1% won, the US has exited the world stage, and now the rest of the world needs to figure out how to fill in the void.

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@johndoh said:
@appariti0n said:

@comp_atkins: So this means Trump is going to improve the education system?

Much like how he improved our pandemic response system and reproductive health system? Pretty sure both suffered due to him, going by pretty much any journal review on the matter.

Doesn't shit he usually touch kinda...go to shit?

Couldn't stay away huh?

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@last_lap said:

@sargentd: More deflection as I've never argued over which plastic box is selling more, probably a trait of yours.

When backed into a corner you're like a little kitten, scared and defenceless lol.

It's ok little kitty I'm not here to hurt you, but be careful in this big wide world because when reality bites, it bites hard.

I see where this is going

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Actually, you don't see that's your problem.

I'm just an outsider looking in and have no care for either side of your political system, i'm just calling it as it is.

I can tell this is going to end in disaster, and from our brief interaction on this side of the board has shown me that im 99% sure you can't reasoned with, and that you're racist because of the people you cheer on, you're a lost cause.

So, with that in mind I ask you this to make up the 1%, is there ANYTHING that Trump could do for you to totally change your mind about him?

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One bit of news did jump out today - Trump has threatened to end funding to the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children unless they scrub their data and pretend that trans kids don't exist.

It seems that Trump thinks enforcing culture wars nonsense is far more important than protecting children from sexual abuse. And if sanitising their data weakens their effectiveness as an agency, then why enforce it?

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@Planeforger said:

One bit of news did jump out today - Trump has threatened to end funding to the National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children unless they scrub their data and pretend that trans kids don't exist.

It seems that Trump thinks enforcing culture wars nonsense is far more important than protecting children from sexual abuse. And if sanitising their data weakens their effectiveness as an agency, then why enforce it?

A pedophile wants to defund an agency helping exploited children? What a shock.

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@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

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#2418  Edited By Maroxad
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@LJS9502_basic said:
@appariti0n said:

@comp_atkins: So this means Trump is going to improve the education system?

No, funding lost does not make education better.

It does if you want people to not understand economics. Which is the only way I can see people defend Musk and DOGE.

Example: the 5.3k people who liked this...

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#2419  Edited By Planeforger
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@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

I don't know if I'd go that far, but there were definitely allegations of him sexually assaulting an under-aged woman. Plus he was best friends with Epstein for ages. I don't think the description fits, but I wouldn't be surprised either way.

Anyway, so you're fine with Trump threatening to remove the child sexual assault hotline if they don't kowtow to his stupid political messaging? That one seems non-negotiable to me. Like there would be zero excuses to defend the guy if he actually follows through with his threat.

Meanwhile, Musk is making moves to shut down the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. That agency helps protect regular people from being screwed by their banks - for example, by setting limits on credit card fees and late fees. Another wholly good agency that Musk is joking about destroying, because I guess he enjoys watching regular people suffer?

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@Planeforger: I think he genuinely wants the US to fail.

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#2421 LJS9502_basic
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@joshrmeyer said:

@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

He was credibly accused by a 13 year old girl and there were witnesses but due to threats, she dropped the case rather than start a trial that was scheduled. But you magas will find a way to victim blame rather than face the reality of your orange cult hero. He is a despicable excuse for a human being, he shows you every single time he opens his mouth and you cheer on the most incompetent president we've ever had, for what? Because he hates who you do? He has done nothing to improve your life and is in the process of destroying it, along with your democracy. When democracy is done, it's not just the left that loses it.

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@appariti0n said:
@johndoh said:
@appariti0n said:

@comp_atkins: So this means Trump is going to improve the education system?

Much like how he improved our pandemic response system and reproductive health system? Pretty sure both suffered due to him, going by pretty much any journal review on the matter.

Doesn't shit he usually touch kinda...go to shit?

Couldn't stay away huh?

But why? Those two things did suffer. We have no reason to think the education system, or any other major systems, will improve under Trump. We mostly have evidence for the opposite, do you want the links?

I have no clue why you made that original post towards comp_atkins, there is no evidence to support such a wild statement.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

He was credibly accused by a 13 year old girl and there were witnesses but due to threats, she dropped the case rather than start a trial that was scheduled. But you magas will find a way to victim blame rather than face the reality of your orange cult hero. He is a despicable excuse for a human being, he shows you every single time he opens his mouth and you cheer on the most incompetent president we've ever had, for what? Because he hates who you do? He has done nothing to improve your life and is in the process of destroying it, along with your democracy. When democracy is done, it's not just the left that loses it.

This Josh guy pretending to be a centrist or moderator is actually hilarious. He skipped every post explaining to him why this DOGE stuff is illegal and randomly found a post insulting Trump to cry about.

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@Maroxad: That tweet is based on Musk's repeated assertion that, "inflation is caused by government spending."

He's either a simple minded moron, or he's attempting to appeal to them.

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White Afrikaners are blowing off Trump's offer. HAH!

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#2426  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@mattbbpl said:

@Maroxad: That tweet is based on Musk's repeated assertion that, "inflation is caused by government spending."

He's either a simple minded moron, or he's attempting to appeal to them.

Can't he be both?

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

He was credibly accused by a 13 year old girl and there were witnesses but due to threats, she dropped the case rather than start a trial that was scheduled. But you magas will find a way to victim blame rather than face the reality of your orange cult hero. He is a despicable excuse for a human being, he shows you every single time he opens his mouth and you cheer on the most incompetent president we've ever had, for what? Because he hates who you do? He has done nothing to improve your life and is in the process of destroying it, along with your democracy. When democracy is done, it's not just the left that loses it.

I have to wonder what world these Trump supporters live in. More reverso world shit...

We have Trump....

  • on tape, literally bragging about grabbing women by their privates without their consent
  • with a picture of him standing next to of a convicted pedophile.....
  • .....saying, "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
  • .....who was to owner of Miss Teen USA, and was known to walk in on young girls in the locker room the midst of undress or fully nude
  • .....alongside two dozen sexual assault accusations against Trump
  • ....who has made no illusions about his sexual objectification of women, going to far as to speak in such manners about his own daughter
  • .....who was known to frequent cocaine fueled parties and take great indulgence in trading deals to very young models who would exploit their position of influence for sexual favors

Yet apparently, we're to ones who aren't to be taken seriously in looking at all the evidence and coming to the most rational, probable conclusion. Right.

These people are a laughingstock in their delusion.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

He was credibly accused by a 13 year old girl and there were witnesses but due to threats, she dropped the case rather than start a trial that was scheduled. But you magas will find a way to victim blame rather than face the reality of your orange cult hero. He is a despicable excuse for a human being, he shows you every single time he opens his mouth and you cheer on the most incompetent president we've ever had, for what? Because he hates who you do? He has done nothing to improve your life and is in the process of destroying it, along with your democracy. When democracy is done, it's not just the left that loses it.

I have to wonder what world these Trump supporters live in. More reverso world shit...

We have Trump....

  • on tape, literally bragging about grabbing women by their privates without their consent
  • with a picture of him standing next to of a convicted pedophile.....
  • .....saying, "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
  • .....who was to owner of Miss Teen USA, and was known to walk in on young girls in the locker room the midst of undress or fully nude
  • .....alongside two dozen sexual assault accusations against Trump
  • ....who has made no illusions about his sexual objectification of women, going to far as to speak in such manners about his own daughter
  • .....who was known to frequent cocaine fueled parties and take great indulgence in trading deals to very young models who would exploit their position of influence for sexual favors

Yet apparently, we're to ones who aren't to be taken seriously in looking at all the evidence and coming to the most rational, probable conclusion. Right.

These people are a laughingstock in their delusion.

He was also found liable for sexually assaulting a woman. This would remove 99.9% of Americans from getting any half way decent job for life.

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#2429 LJS9502_basic
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@johndoh said:
@MirkoS77 said:

I have to wonder what world these Trump supporters live in. More reverso world shit...

We have Trump....

  • on tape, literally bragging about grabbing women by their privates without their consent
  • with a picture of him standing next to of a convicted pedophile.....
  • .....saying, "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
  • .....who was to owner of Miss Teen USA, and was known to walk in on young girls in the locker room the midst of undress or fully nude
  • .....alongside two dozen sexual assault accusations against Trump
  • ....who has made no illusions about his sexual objectification of women, going to far as to speak in such manners about his own daughter
  • .....who was known to frequent cocaine fueled parties and take great indulgence in trading deals to very young models who would exploit their position of influence for sexual favors

Yet apparently, we're to ones who aren't to be taken seriously in looking at all the evidence and coming to the most rational, probable conclusion. Right.

These people are a laughingstock in their delusion.

He was also found liable for sexually assaulting a woman. This would remove 99.9% of Americans from getting any half way decent job for life.

Shows you the integrity of some voters.

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Trump Earned Millions From Meme Coin, 810,000 Others Lost: Report

Trump and His Family Earned Millions From Trump Coin While 810,000 Others Lost Money: Report

“That coin is a joke," one Trump supporter who said he lost money on the president's memecoin wrote on social media

LMAO. Sucks to suck.

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@johndoh said:
@MirkoS77 said:
@LJS9502_basic said:
@joshrmeyer said:

@rmpumper: Now you’re saying Trump’s a pedophile? 😆 And y’all wonder why no one takes you seriously.

He was credibly accused by a 13 year old girl and there were witnesses but due to threats, she dropped the case rather than start a trial that was scheduled. But you magas will find a way to victim blame rather than face the reality of your orange cult hero. He is a despicable excuse for a human being, he shows you every single time he opens his mouth and you cheer on the most incompetent president we've ever had, for what? Because he hates who you do? He has done nothing to improve your life and is in the process of destroying it, along with your democracy. When democracy is done, it's not just the left that loses it.

I have to wonder what world these Trump supporters live in. More reverso world shit...

We have Trump....

  • on tape, literally bragging about grabbing women by their privates without their consent
  • with a picture of him standing next to of a convicted pedophile.....
  • .....saying, "It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side."
  • .....who was to owner of Miss Teen USA, and was known to walk in on young girls in the locker room the midst of undress or fully nude
  • .....alongside two dozen sexual assault accusations against Trump
  • ....who has made no illusions about his sexual objectification of women, going to far as to speak in such manners about his own daughter
  • .....who was known to frequent cocaine fueled parties and take great indulgence in trading deals to very young models who would exploit their position of influence for sexual favors

Yet apparently, we're to ones who aren't to be taken seriously in looking at all the evidence and coming to the most rational, probable conclusion. Right.

These people are a laughingstock in their delusion.

He was also found liable for sexually assaulting a woman. This would remove 99.9% of Americans from getting any half way decent job for life.

Ah yes thanks, how could I forget that?

Fly, Eagles Fly!

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#2432 appariti0n
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@johndoh: No thanks. Post on your main if you want to discuss something.

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#2433 RZing
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Tariffs on raw materials seems like a poor decision.

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@rzing said:

Tariffs on raw materials seems like a poor decision.

Yup just saw that,

Trump says he will announce 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum imports Monday | CNN Business

Lmao. No one can even defend this.

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Everyday I see the news and I just see an angry bull in a china shop attacking every institution that tried to make him liable for his actions. So much for being the law and order president

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#2437  Edited By Planeforger
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Everyday I see the news and I just see an angry bull in a china shop attacking every institution that tried to make him liable for his actions. So much for being the law and order president

I think that's what they wanted though? Nobody voted the guy in based on his law and order credentials - not when he spent most of his campaign trail in court on multiple criminal convictions.

A lot of people seemed to vote for him because he promised to hurt the people they believed were undermining their privileges. They wanted a monster, as long as he was their monster.

It's obviously a poorly-informed, short-sighted, self-defeating approach. All he has done in office is worsen people's quality of life and make things easier for multi-millionaires to earn money without scrutiny or safeguards. And that's all he'll ever do - you'd have to be very naive to think Trump and Musk are going to take all this money and then use it to benefit their voting base.

But yes, they wanted a bull. This is what they got.

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@johndoh said:

Trump Earned Millions From Meme Coin, 810,000 Others Lost: Report

Trump and His Family Earned Millions From Trump Coin While 810,000 Others Lost Money: Report

“That coin is a joke," one Trump supporter who said he lost money on the president's memecoin wrote on social media

LMAO. Sucks to suck.

They deserve it. TBH.

Grow a brain.

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@MirkoS77: @LJS9502_basic: Yall need to look up what pedophilia is.

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#2440 JoshRMeyer
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@johndoh: I didn’t skip them, just haven’t had time to reply yet. I don’t live on here like some.

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#2441 JoshRMeyer
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@johndoh: I’ve been honest about what I know and do not know. I feel like I’m an average American as far as knowledge towards those points goes. The only opinion I have of the points you mentioned would be the department of education being governed on state level. I have no issues with that. I see a lot of leftist crying that the sky is falling. “Biden did no wrong but everything Trump does is bad” attitude. I’d call out the right also if there were more than two of them on here. And those two seem to use more common sense than anyone else.

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#2442 Maroxad
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@joshrmeyer You called a lot of our posts misinformation. And you have repeatedly shown yourself not to have a very good grasp on basic legal structure that was almost certainly covered in civics class in school.

Hell, these are things I learned from just watching shows like Looney Tunes, Animaniacs and more (which would sometimes satirize US politics).

@Planeforger said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Everyday I see the news and I just see an angry bull in a china shop attacking every institution that tried to make him liable for his actions. So much for being the law and order president

I think that's what they wanted though? Nobody voted the guy in based on his law and order credentials - not when he spent most of his campaign trail in court on multiple criminal convictions.

A lot of people seemed to vote for him because he promised to hurt the people they believed were undermining their privileges. They wanted a monster, as long as he was their monster.

It's obviously a poorly-informed, short-sighted, self-defeating approach. All he has done in office is worsen people's quality of life and make things easier for multi-millionaires to earn money without scrutiny or safeguards. And that's all he'll ever do - you'd have to be very naive to think Trump and Musk are going to take all this money and then use it to benefit their voting base.

But yes, they wanted a bull. This is what they got.

Pretty much, and for some it certainly have backfired now and it seems like farmers are now finding out.

Animal agriculture in particular has overwhelmingly relied on government welfare.

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Trump signs order prioritizing US ‘resettlement’ of white South Africans over ‘discrimination’ | The Independent

Who is going to explain this stuff? Why only these refugees and not others?

A phenomenon i don't understand. People not being able to distinct between illegal immigration and legal immigration, normal levels of migration and mass-migration. A thing not exclusive to the US of course.

I guess it's the result of this ideological dead-end the (center-)left was lured into. The unwillingness to adapt and the mantra of racistsexistnaziracistmysoginistnaziracistsexist has lost a lot of weight. Your only hope is for Trump to **** up biggly. America better be a wasteland when the next election is up.

O lord aaallmighty...

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@johndoh said:

Trump Earned Millions From Meme Coin, 810,000 Others Lost: Report

Trump and His Family Earned Millions From Trump Coin While 810,000 Others Lost Money: Report

“That coin is a joke," one Trump supporter who said he lost money on the president's memecoin wrote on social media

LMAO. Sucks to suck.

They deserve it. TBH.

Grow a brain.

And you deserve Trump.

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I agree with pasta.

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@uninspiredcup said:

I agree with pasta.

To be fair, he does make some valid points. You'd imagine the democrats would need to work out their priorities and policy course fairly soon.

All the same, he doesn't really address the question:

@palasta said:
@johndoh said:

Trump signs order prioritizing US ‘resettlement’ of white South Africans over ‘discrimination’ | The Independent

Who is going to explain this stuff? Why only these refugees and not others?

A phenomenon i don't understand. People not being able to distinct between illegal immigration and legal immigration, normal levels of migration and mass-migration. A thing not exclusive to the US of course.

If you wouldn't mind, Palasta... Where do you stand on this issue? The way I understand, the question lies on a fault line between current republican factions.

Would this scenario constitute mass immigration? Is resettlement a valid response to minority oppression overseas? How far should the US be entangling itself in other countries' problems?

Just trying to get the lay of the land politically. No worries if you're not sure or whatever.

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#2446  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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By completely dismissing him in each and every post he makes, I'm being fair.

And that point wasn't fair, it was a childish "I know you are but..."

Trump was scamming folk, he's a cult leader, they fell for it.

The end.

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@uninspiredcup said:

I agree with pasta.

To be fair

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@uninspiredcup: The other points, cup. The ones about immigration and a slightly directionless opposition.

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Im so over with the election. It almost seems a year ago. Concern is with Musk and his attack on the US.

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@MirkoS77: @LJS9502_basic: Yall need to look up what pedophilia is.

I know what it is. I was referencing your support of a sexual predator. He was on record saying he walks into teen girls while they in states of undress. I can only assume you are okay with that as well.

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@LJS9502_basic: You’re referencing something he said on the Howard Stern show 20 years ago? Why would I support that kind of behavior? For someone claiming to be catholic, you sure lack forgiveness which is something that religion is huge on. I don’t support any politician. I don’t believe you can get to that position without being somewhat corrupt. And isn’t the left all about giving second chances to felons, sex offenders etc? Doesn’t apply to Trump though?