3 Things you should know about Islam

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="Grodus5"]I think it ultimately shows what the new generation of Muslims are like or are learning to be like under the influences of liberialism in Western Countries.Grodus5

[QUOTE="Grodus5"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Of course it bloody doesn't. How can you possibly take the rare case of a Christian converting to Islam as a sample of the average young Muslim?BAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you watch the speech?

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="Grodus5"] Because maybe, I don't know... there were other people in the room at his speech agreeing with him?Former_Slacker

Did you watch the speech?

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[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Shock as Muslims are wildly congratulatory to a convert who criticises his former religion?BAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you watch the speech?

[QUOTE="Former_Slacker"]

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Shock as Muslims are wildly congratulatory to a convert who criticises his former religion?BAHAHAHAHAHA

Did you watch the speech?

I am right now.

Wow im seeing a large lack of debating skills and false knowledge being thrown around. However im glad to see that the overall populas has seen through this blatant propaganda conjured up to cause fear and hate. Fact is Muslims have been around for HUNDREDS OF YEARS living alongside CHRISTIANS, JEWS in peace, so why all of a sudden are we on a crusade now? surely we would have done so a whole lot earlier?

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]You're quite right to point out that the Bible is frequently just as unpleasant - but as I've said previously in this thread, the Quran is altogether more dangerous because it is considered by all Muslims to be the word of God - therefore while a Christian who's not a total idiot can ignore the bits of the Bible that demand the stoning of those who work on the Sabbath on the grounds that it's not the word of God, a Muslim cannot reasonably oppose a single word of the Quran. I see no reason to criticise all religions equally when they are not all equally insidious.BAHAHAHAHAHA

So every muslim does eh?

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]You're quite right to point out that the Bible is frequently just as unpleasant - but as I've said previously in this thread, the Quran is altogether more dangerous because it is considered by all Muslims to be the word of God - therefore while a Christian who's not a total idiot can ignore the bits of the Bible that demand the stoning of those who work on the Sabbath on the grounds that it's not the word of God, a Muslim cannot reasonably oppose a single word of the Quran. I see no reason to criticise all religions equally when they are not all equally insidious.BAHAHAHAHAHA

Edit: Glitch Spot. I'm a Christian. The Bible is the core of all Christianity. Yet I disagree with a vast majority of what the Bible has to say.

[QUOTE="osiris667"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]What an awful response. Firstly, how can you deny that gender has anything to do with a verse that implies that more women are needed to constitute a reliable testimony? Secondly, homophobia is discrimination, fear of hatred of homosexuals, and therefore this verse has EVERYTHING to do with it - and don't give me that 'cultural issue' crap. The only cultural issue is that - my culture is tolerant of homosexuals, and yours is bigoted and hateful towards them. My cultural is superior. Regardless, this all stems from religion, in that the root cause of Muslim homophobia is the Quran itself. It is a religious issue, and it is one that demonstrates how the Quran simply codifies the troglodytic, hateful prejudices of the time. God's word my ass.BAHAHAHAHAHA

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Why are you generalizing again? Not "all" muslims believe it is the word of god. It's a question of theory vs. practice.Former_Slacker

So every muslim does eh?

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Why are you generalizing again? Not "all" muslims believe it is the word of god. It's a question of theory vs. practice.Former_Slacker

So every muslim does eh?

Ofcourse the Qu'ran is the word of Allah, 'bahahaha' is rite on that fact but sadly thats the only thing hes been right on throughout this discussion.

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Why are you generalizing again? Not "all" muslims believe it is the word of god. It's a question of theory vs. practice.majoras_wrath

"I thought you were Jewish," one of us said. "Did you convert?"

"I'm Jewish, but I'm not a super-Jew," she replied :lol:

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[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Rubbish. Utter rubbish. Every Muslim believes that the Quran is the word of God as conveyed via Muhammad. This is an absolutely core aspect of Islam. For ****'s sake.BAHAHAHAHAHA

So every muslim does eh?

As you said, its "rubbish. Utter rubbish." I've been to India and Pakistan, I have friends and family who are muslim, they don't follow the Quran word by word. Why? I don't know but the fact stands.

[QUOTE="osiris667"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Oh I quite agree that there's a difference, but neither is immoral, and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant, stupid or some combination of the two. Also, piss off with the 'not natural' rubbish. Do you squat down and crap on the ground, as is natural? Do you never wear clothes, as is natural? Do you have sex before marriage, as is natural? No? Then stop being a hypocrite by condemning homosexuals on the grounds that what they do is 'not natural'.BAHAHAHAHAHA

[QUOTE="osiris667"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Oh I quite agree that there's a difference, but neither is immoral, and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant, stupid or some combination of the two. Also, piss off with the 'not natural' rubbish. Do you squat down and crap on the ground, as is natural? Do you never wear clothes, as is natural? Do you have sex before marriage, as is natural? No? Then stop being a hypocrite by condemning homosexuals on the grounds that what they do is 'not natural'.BAHAHAHAHAHA

Lets focus on the topic and not turn this into a debate on homosexuality please.

[QUOTE="osiris667"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Oh I quite agree that there's a difference, but neither is immoral, and anyone who says otherwise is ignorant, stupid or some combination of the two. Also, piss off with the 'not natural' rubbish. Do you squat down and crap on the ground, as is natural? Do you never wear clothes, as is natural? Do you have sex before marriage, as is natural? No? Then stop being a hypocrite by condemning homosexuals on the grounds that what they do is 'not natural'.BAHAHAHAHAHA

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Rubbish. Utter rubbish. Every Muslim believes that the Quran is the word of God as conveyed via Muhammad. This is an absolutely core aspect of Islam. For ****'s sake.mattbbpl

"I thought you were Jewish," one of us said. "Did you convert?"

"I'm Jewish, but I'm not a super-Jew," she replied :lol:

[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"][QUOTE="osiris667"] It isn't natural, no matter what you think or say, homosexuality isn't a normal thing, it's not a gene, and isn't genetically determined, otherwise it would have been a different matter.osiris667

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[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] I have religious jewish friends who don't keep kosher, and who use electronics andwork on sabbath. Are they suddenly "no longer jews" because they don't follow core aspects?majoras_wrath

"I thought you were Jewish," one of us said. "Did you convert?"

"I'm Jewish, but I'm not a super-Jew," she replied :lol:

How isit possible to be a jew when you dont beleive the religion itself? surely youd be better suited to calling yourself an athiest as the option youve opted for is impossible?

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[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Bloody hell. Can you read? Can you think? Then congratulations! You were fully equipped to understand my point: that you, for condemning homosexuality as unnatural, are a hypocrite. You crap in a toilet, which is unnatural, and you wear clothes, which is unnatural, and you use cars, which is unnatural. You do unnatural things every day, and if you had the slightest bit of sense you'd realise that THERE IS NOTHING NECESSARILY WRONG WITH THE UNNATURAL. Thank you. The end, you lose, run way with your tail between your legs.BAHAHAHAHAHA

I have religious jewish friends who don't keep kosher, and who use electronics andwork on sabbath. Are they suddenly "no longer jews" because they don't follow core aspects?majoras_wrath

"I thought you were Jewish," one of us said. "Did you convert?"

"I'm Jewish, but I'm not a super-Jew," she replied :lol:

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[QUOTE="BAHAHAHAHAHA"]Bloody hell. Can you read? Can you think? Then congratulations! You were fully equipped to understand my point: that you, for condemning homosexuality as unnatural, are a hypocrite. You crap in a toilet, which is unnatural, and you wear clothes, which is unnatural, and you use cars, which is unnatural. You do unnatural things every day, and if you had the slightest bit of sense you'd realise that THERE IS NOTHING NECESSARILY WRONG WITH THE UNNATURAL. Thank you. The end, you lose, run way with your tail between your legs.BAHAHAHAHAHA

Since we're going off topic:

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]This reminds me of the time we saw our Jewish friend eating bacon on her sandwich at a party.

"I thought you were Jewish," one of us said. "Did you convert?"

"I'm Jewish, but I'm not a super-Jew," she replied :lol:

Super_Toad_64

How isit possible to be a jew when you dont beleive the religion itself? surely youd be better suited to calling yourself an athiest as the option youve opted for is impossible?

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]This reminds me of the time we saw our Jewish friend eating bacon on her sandwich at a party.

"I thought you were Jewish," one of us said. "Did you convert?"

"I'm Jewish, but I'm not a super-Jew," she replied :lol:

mattbbpl

Yeah I know, I was being partially facetious. :)

Then again, I'm going to college in a city with almost no jews...and considering the reactions I've gotten before (as in, :O YOU'RE JEWISH? THAT'S AWESOME!!!1)...it may be interesting.

Wow im seeing a large lack of debating skills and false knowledge being thrown around. However im glad to see that the overall populas has seen through this blatant propaganda conjured up to cause fear and hate. Fact is Muslims have been around for HUNDREDS OF YEARS living alongside CHRISTIANS, JEWS in peace, so why all of a sudden are we on a crusade now? surely we would have done so a whole lot earlier?

Super_Toad_64

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Wow im seeing a large lack of debating skills and false knowledge being thrown around. However im glad to see that the overall populas has seen through this blatant propaganda conjured up to cause fear and hate. Fact is Muslims have been around for HUNDREDS OF YEARS living alongside CHRISTIANS, JEWS in peace, so why all of a sudden are we on a crusade now? surely we would have done so a whole lot earlier?

herpderp9000

Yes, and it happend to be the Christians that were doing so. Which begs me to ask, your point is?

This thread was no good to begin with, and then it just got worse. I've noticed two things lately. We've got a fairly sizable number of muslims on this site, and a fairly sizable number of people who think it is ok to troll them. Read the religious guidelines on for this board.