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So, did your view change a bit or did you already know all of that :P ?
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I knew most of that stuff, except for about the evolution information at the no.1 spot. I try to have a good cultural understanding, even though I'm a so called "baby killer."
Thats fantastic. My brother converted to being Muslim, though Im agnostic myself. I think its great that people open their eyes a little bit, people are stereotyping being Muslim and their lifestyle by what they see on the news. Its sad indeed.
I hate when people think Muslims=Arab, and that they talk like Muslim is a Language, when its not at all.
It really shows how ignorant people are of a very famous religion
Islam Rules.
I actually did know all that...well, except the "only 20% are arab" part. I know a lot of South Pacific places are muslim, and there are plenty of muslims in the US and Canada I'd wager.
Either way, its refreshing to read that stuff again. Despite how it is being misused and portrayed, Islam really is the religion of peace.
So according to this "articles" reasoning because women are not required to wear a burqua Islam doesn't hate women?
And because Islam had rules protecting innocents (which are superseded by the koran telling muslims to kill "infidels") they are a peaceful religion.
I could go on but I'll just say this article is a bs.
I didn't really know about the first one too much, but everything else I kind of assumed was true already. Besides, Saladin was actually a pretty cool guy, and his line in "Kingdom of Heaven" gets me every time. It's the scene where [spoiler] Orlando Bloom's character tells Saladin that Christians murdered everyone within the city streets, and Saladin swore he wouldn't, claiming "I am not those men." Awesome. :D [/spoiler]
I'm Christian btw, but I have deepfound respect for Islam. After all, we're both 'religions of the book.'
So according to this "articles" reasoning because women are not required to wear a burqua Islam doesn't hate women?
And because Islam had rules protecting innocents (which are superseded by the koran telling muslims to kill "infidels") they are a peaceful religion.
I could go on but I'll just say this article is a bs.
htekemerald
right on brah
muslims actually burned most of the knowledge they got from conquering places coz the knowledge was far more than what they could understand so if anything islam had a major negative affect on science.
Harisemo
O really? You couldn't be more in the dark. Oh wait, you're on of THOSE hate mongers on the internet. Ah well, Its useless.
*leaves thread*
Knew all of this from taking world religions last fall :Pmrmusicman247Hey me too, did you have Brennemen? :o
[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Knew all of this from taking world religions last fall :PUCF_KnightHey me too, did you have Brennemen? :o I'm not sure...was he Indian and made fun of people all the time?
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]A lot of that article is silly. 1. Muslim contributions to science and math have been exagerrated, seeing as they conquered places with a vast collection of knowledge, then adapted the knowledge themselves. The article also fails to mention how Islamic society fell after embracing the idea that all knowledge came from the Quran. The poll about Muslims and evolution is a US poll, which isn't so surprising since American Muslims tend to be educated. A poll in a Muslims country would be a better gauge of things.Harisemo
muslims actually burned most of the knowledge they got from conquering places coz the knowledge was far more than what they could understand so if anything islam had a major negative affect on science.
Didn't Muslims preserve much knowledge that it led to Renaissance in Europe, which was a rediscovery of Greek and Roman culture?There is no way the thing about the womans cloak is true. I see many people wear that.Stanley09
It's cultural, not religious. It entirely depends on the culture of the country you're in.
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]A lot of that article is silly. 1. Muslim contributions to science and math have been exagerrated, seeing as they conquered places with a vast collection of knowledge, then adapted the knowledge themselves. The article also fails to mention how Islamic society fell after embracing the idea that all knowledge came from the Quran. The poll about Muslims and evolution is a US poll, which isn't so surprising since American Muslims tend to be educated. A poll in a Muslims country would be a better gauge of things.Harisemo
muslims actually burned most of the knowledge they got from conquering places coz the knowledge was far more than what they could understand so if anything islam had a major negative affect on science.
Link please.[QUOTE="Harisemo"]
[QUOTE="Rhazakna"]A lot of that article is silly. 1. Muslim contributions to science and math have been exagerrated, seeing as they conquered places with a vast collection of knowledge, then adapted the knowledge themselves. The article also fails to mention how Islamic society fell after embracing the idea that all knowledge came from the Quran. The poll about Muslims and evolution is a US poll, which isn't so surprising since American Muslims tend to be educated. A poll in a Muslims country would be a better gauge of things.ZIVX
muslims actually burned most of the knowledge they got from conquering places coz the knowledge was far more than what they could understand so if anything islam had a major negative affect on science.
Didn't Muslims preserve much knowledge that it led to Renaissance in Europe, which was a rediscovery of Greek and Roman culture? Muslims preserved the Antique classic philosophies and sciences when Christian Europe was burning a lot of things before Constantine, labeling them as pagan thoughts.[QUOTE="UCF_Knight"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Knew all of this from taking world religions last fall :Pmrmusicman247Hey me too, did you have Brennemen? :o I'm not sure...was he Indian and made fun of people all the time? Nope, he was white, fat, short and bald. Probably not him..
muslims actually burned most of the knowledge they got from conquering places coz the knowledge was far more than what they could understand so if anything islam had a major negative affect on science.
Harisemo
firstly as a sunni i dont see shias as muslims
Harisemo
meh western infidels will still go nuts over this lol
Harisemo
answering-islam.org is an anti-islamic website and islam is alive and still growing. its gonna take more than just haters to stop it
Harisemo
Harisemo perplexes me. Either he's Bi-polar or he's the most indecisive troll on earth.
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meh western infidels will still go nuts over this lol
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answering-islam.org is an anti-islamic website and islam is alive and still growing. its gonna take more than just haters to stop it
Harisemo
Harisemo perplexes me. Either he's Bi-polar or he's the most indecisive troll on earth.
Exactly what I was thinking.5) True the mandate of the burqa is something that is not directly stated in the quran. however, the quran is extremely misogynistic with verses like these
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/quran/women/long.html
4) I have yet to hear any secular critics that cite the founding fathers when discussing the topic of islam. straw man much? or do you just get all your examples of criticism from tea-partiers?
3) once again, this is a straw man. only rednecks and 12 year old trolls make this equation
2) not even Pat Condell (who I do actually admire, despite his extreme nature) has made such a statement. No one has said that in the past, western culture has proven to be more humane than Islamic culture. Those were barbaric times for pretty much every culture. The point that people make is that Islamic countries today are far more violent and suppressive than western (and most oriental) cultures today. Good job, once again, attacking an argument that doesnt exist. so far we have 3 straw men and one half truth.
And this section is especially absurd considering that Muhammad killed countless non-combatants and conquered the entire Arabic peninsula during his own life-time. The key word there is Conquered. one does not conquer in defense. There is plenty of evidence to show that Muhammad and his men killed many, many noncombatants.
And whether or not the people he killed were combatants is irrelevant here. the combatants who he killed were simply defending their homeland, family, and property from plundering, rapacious invaders. these were brothers, fathers, uncles, sons, who were simply defending their home from outside invaders. The mass pillaging, raping, and murdering that Muhammadcommitted was not acceptable simply because he mostly killed people who fought back (in defense I might add). The fact that this article brushesaside the horrific violence that the very founder of Islam committed, shows a stunning amount of intellectual dishonesty.
1) for a time, the Islamic world was the capital of scientific advancement. that was until Muslim "scholars" such as Hamid Ghazahli came along (around 1000-1100) and flung the islamic world into a scientific dark age from where it has yet to emerge. the scientific contributions from the Islamic world since the eleventh century have been abysmal.
Again, this is a sort of straw man. not many people claim that the middle east has never produced a single contribution to science. The point people make is that these theocratic hell holes produce next to nothing today (and that this pattern has been consistent for the past 8 centuries).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnEeTBuPQuo
Regardless, one must ask themself "should islam be credited with the scientific discoveries of the time?" well, should the accomplishments of every scientific endeavour of the western world be attributed to Christianity? I think that would be an unreasonable assumption. especially how both books are rife with scientific inaccuracy
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/SKM/contradictions.htm
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Scientific_errors_in_the_bible
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this article is disingenuous, apologetic nonsense and it has more straw men than Iowa.
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